"despite the fact that I agreed with what Vivek was saying. Vivek had the right lines, but Haley’s deportment and her credibility and her experience, despite the fact I don’t agree with what she’s done with it, really came through for me." - This is honestly a good bit of what is wrong with modern politics and governing. Many are "intrig…
"despite the fact that I agreed with what Vivek was saying. Vivek had the right lines, but Haley’s deportment and her credibility and her experience, despite the fact I don’t agree with what she’s done with it, really came through for me." - This is honestly a good bit of what is wrong with modern politics and governing. Many are "intrigued" by the message and "interested" in alternate ways to govern by changing the status quo; BUT we just can't seem to move past the archaic ways that we have judged or discerned effectiveness in the past. Ms. Haley's "experience" is founded on the love of war, spending our blood and treasure on never-ending conflict and creating a entire sub-culture of depressed, wounded, and maimed men and women that must come home to live out their lives NEVER the same. Now, that is some "experience" for sure, but it is the kind we want or need going forward?
For any of us who have been paying attention. Since 2016, we know that the degree of difference between established Republicans and the Democrats is wafer thin. It was so obvious the difference between Vivek and the rest. They are all career politicians who have been a part large and small in creating the mess we are in. One stupid line after another when I was governor of this or Senator that just has no credibility. It’s like saying “when I was in the mob I was against racketeering”. And the folks see it. The new working class Republican see it. They are tolerant, they don’t give a shit who you sleep with, just stay away from their kids. Whether that’s grooming them with porn in the schools, feeding them leftist propaganda, or sending them off to useless wars so the Rand Corp can have a banner year. They, I, am done with that whole lie. Vivek was the proxy for Trump brand of thinking on that stage.
I get it. I’ve listened to many hard core Trump supporters. I respect it as well. I voted for him twice and thought his policies were very good for the USA.
The part I can’t reconcile is how Trump supporters can be so blinded by their rage to not see that putting Trump up as the nominee will likely result in a blue president and four more years of very destructive progressive policies. My fear is that another four years of open borders, etc… and the USA will dissolve.
Brian you put your finger on the central issue. Can we please find a candidate from the right that is totally viable in the general election. It is not Trump and I voted for him twice also. I think he has been under ceaseless attack and I agree with his policies. But as others have pointed out, he cannot control himself. He takes things off on tangents. I am mostly surrounded by liberals where I live, and most of them know Biden is unacceptable. Some because of the lockdowns, some over gender madness, others it’s just the obvious broken down condition of the man himself. They want a Republican alternative. The country is ready for a pendulum shift. Just like when a bunch of Virginians voted in a Republican Governor three years ago. I had hoped it was DeSantis but he’s not looking good on the stump. He seems awkward on a personal level. Doesn’t bother me, but his numbers show it’s not working with the electorate.
Thank you. I am surrounded by liberals too. The worst kind, Jewish ones. You are lucky your liberals at least admit the Joe is impaired. My liberals won’t go there. DeSantis is very disappointing. His “handlers” have muzzled him, tried to make him like able. Such a mistake. Folks in Florida who know him say he should be himself, a pit bull. Which is what we need.
"putting Trump up as the nominee will result in a Blue president and 4 more years of very destructive progressive policies. My fear is that another 4 years of open borders, etc… and the USA will dissolve"
Yes. This.
Trump CANNOT win a general election. So many moderates & independents & even conservatives who would otherwise vote GOP will NOT vote for Trump. Not only that, there are many woke progressive young non-voters who never vote but have TDS. Anyone else & they just won't bother to vote. But will vote for anyone against Trump b/c they have TDS.
"despite the fact that I agreed with what Vivek was saying. Vivek had the right lines, but Haley’s deportment and her credibility and her experience, despite the fact I don’t agree with what she’s done with it, really came through for me." - This is honestly a good bit of what is wrong with modern politics and governing. Many are "intrigued" by the message and "interested" in alternate ways to govern by changing the status quo; BUT we just can't seem to move past the archaic ways that we have judged or discerned effectiveness in the past. Ms. Haley's "experience" is founded on the love of war, spending our blood and treasure on never-ending conflict and creating a entire sub-culture of depressed, wounded, and maimed men and women that must come home to live out their lives NEVER the same. Now, that is some "experience" for sure, but it is the kind we want or need going forward?
For any of us who have been paying attention. Since 2016, we know that the degree of difference between established Republicans and the Democrats is wafer thin. It was so obvious the difference between Vivek and the rest. They are all career politicians who have been a part large and small in creating the mess we are in. One stupid line after another when I was governor of this or Senator that just has no credibility. It’s like saying “when I was in the mob I was against racketeering”. And the folks see it. The new working class Republican see it. They are tolerant, they don’t give a shit who you sleep with, just stay away from their kids. Whether that’s grooming them with porn in the schools, feeding them leftist propaganda, or sending them off to useless wars so the Rand Corp can have a banner year. They, I, am done with that whole lie. Vivek was the proxy for Trump brand of thinking on that stage.
I get it. I’ve listened to many hard core Trump supporters. I respect it as well. I voted for him twice and thought his policies were very good for the USA.
The part I can’t reconcile is how Trump supporters can be so blinded by their rage to not see that putting Trump up as the nominee will likely result in a blue president and four more years of very destructive progressive policies. My fear is that another four years of open borders, etc… and the USA will dissolve.
Help me out on this one.
I’m thinking Vivek is the Trump alternative? But there’s a long way to go before the nomination!
Yes, Vivek is there in case Trump is derailed during the primary process.
Brian you put your finger on the central issue. Can we please find a candidate from the right that is totally viable in the general election. It is not Trump and I voted for him twice also. I think he has been under ceaseless attack and I agree with his policies. But as others have pointed out, he cannot control himself. He takes things off on tangents. I am mostly surrounded by liberals where I live, and most of them know Biden is unacceptable. Some because of the lockdowns, some over gender madness, others it’s just the obvious broken down condition of the man himself. They want a Republican alternative. The country is ready for a pendulum shift. Just like when a bunch of Virginians voted in a Republican Governor three years ago. I had hoped it was DeSantis but he’s not looking good on the stump. He seems awkward on a personal level. Doesn’t bother me, but his numbers show it’s not working with the electorate.
Thank you. I am surrounded by liberals too. The worst kind, Jewish ones. You are lucky your liberals at least admit the Joe is impaired. My liberals won’t go there. DeSantis is very disappointing. His “handlers” have muzzled him, tried to make him like able. Such a mistake. Folks in Florida who know him say he should be himself, a pit bull. Which is what we need.
Same here!
"putting Trump up as the nominee will result in a Blue president and 4 more years of very destructive progressive policies. My fear is that another 4 years of open borders, etc… and the USA will dissolve"
Yes. This.
Trump CANNOT win a general election. So many moderates & independents & even conservatives who would otherwise vote GOP will NOT vote for Trump. Not only that, there are many woke progressive young non-voters who never vote but have TDS. Anyone else & they just won't bother to vote. But will vote for anyone against Trump b/c they have TDS.
The same people who fret about a politician’s comportment had no problem with president BJ. Or Biden and his Katrina moment.
As usual, me off topic. The Biden crime family strikes again:
https://www.tiktok.com/@jessebwatters/video/7265129430539078958
Bravo!