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NCMaureen's avatar

Matt Taibbi and Walter Kirn’s America This Week Podcast had a couple of good observations. They said we have a three party system now. The D’s, Trump/Vivek, and the rest of the R’s form a third party. Those third party people were from the 80s and 90s, pretty interchangeable. Their experience isn’t worth a hill of beans because look where we are. They said Trump sounded like a man fighting the entire world now. But that makes him a hero even more to all the struggling Americans. They liked Vivek. He stood out. Not bought. Not a warmonger. Unafraid to take a position. Christie’s ChatGPT snide remark was itself ChatGPT, canned and rehearsed. Does a grossly obese man really want to call someone skinny? (Even though Vivek called himself that).

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Derek Bitter's avatar

Yeah, I listened to that Taibbi and Kirn podcast as well. They’re right. I also liked their point about old media and new media. It made me think that the days of these debates are over, or perhaps should be. There are so many more ways for candidates to get their messages out, and Trump and Vivek use the new ways. I think Vivek will win in 2024.

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Brian Katz's avatar

Yup, and in this new media world, my money says that there won’t even be a debate for the Democrats. They will put up Biden, hide him in the basement and hold up the Trump mug shot. Once in a while they will talk about abortion.

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Honey Daly's avatar

Derek, wishful thinking on our part, but Vivek is seen as too much like Trump, in so far as not being afraid to say what he believes EVEN at the expense of getting booed!

I like that he isn’t a “bought & paid for career politician” but that’s just my humble opinion. He doesn’t have those “tried & used sound bites” seasoned politicians regurgitate during EVERY election! Good for him!

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Derek Bitter's avatar

I don’t know, I think his similarities to Trump will be more of an asset than a liability. I think he’ll go far. See my other comment below, but I think Trump will withdraw and that will open the way for Vivek. The other possibility is Biden dies between now and then, which opens the field for legitimate Democratic challengers. We’ll see.

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Ruth Thomas's avatar

Sorry but I cannot stomach Viveks plan to defund support for Israel. Would this alone influence me not to vote for him? Yes, unequivocally.

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Sally Sue's avatar

I agree.

If anything, Vivek should learn from Trump & DEFUND SUPPORT FOR HAMAS & THE PALESTINIANS. Trump was the only President who did this & It was fantastic. For several years, there were no terror attacks because Hamas didn't have the money to pay suicide bombers.

Then Biden came & gave Billions to Hamas who immediately resumed Suicide Bombings & killing Israeli children. Hamas makes suicide bombers' families rich & that's why they do it.

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Honey Daly's avatar

Ruth, I understand how you feel, but please read my post. We MUST get away from casting our vote based on our one passionate belief/agenda i.e. abortion, gun control, climate change, and yes even Israel.

I’m not trying to suggest or sway you support Vivek, but our country is in serious decline! One issue does not define Vivek, or RFK Jr, or even Trump.

Plus, we still have (so far) a 3 tiered Justice system. If Israel was going to be abandoned, it would have happened under this Biden Regime., for sure! Of course, Biden says differently (when allowed to speak), but actions speak louder.

The WOKE Left Democrats (notice I did not say ALL Dems) have spewed more hateful rhetoric against Israel and Jewish Americans than any group of people! And Democrats were once the Party of acceptance. They’ve also lost credibility when they want to talk about “diversity, inclusion & equity” unless THEY decide who should be so fortunate as to be chosen. Jews, Asians and White people are exempt!

I all honesty, Trump did more for Israel than most others, but look at how he’s vilified, regardless!

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Sally Sue's avatar

I like Vivek but I don't like his foreign policy ideas. If anything, Vivek should learn from Trump & DEFUND SUPPORT FOR HAMAS & THE PALESTINIANS. Trump was the only President who did this & It was fantastic. For several years, there were no terror attacks because Hamas didn't have the money to pay suicide bombers.

Then Biden came & gave $$$Billions to Hamas who immediately resumed Suicide Bombings & killing Israeli children. Hamas makes suicide bombers' families rich & that's why they do it.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pay-to-slay-biden-sued-sending-half-billion-palestinian-aid-could-fund-acts-terrorism

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Brian Katz's avatar

My Jewish American friends continued support of the Democrat party has infuriated me. They are putting ideology in front of their heritage and it’s foolish. I didn’t like Vivek’s remark about cutting aid to Israel, but I’ve read enough on the subject to know: (1) that it will not happen even if he supports it as President (if he is even elected in the first place) and (2) israel will be just fine without such aid. What is critical, is that the US and Israel continue to share intelligence and the “platform” that they operate on. The platform was developed jointly by the U.S. and Israel and will continue even if aid is cut.

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Brian Katz's avatar

No it doesn’t, but your comment is not helpful either.

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Terence G Gain's avatar

Too much support for Vivek/Trump guarantees a Democratic Party POTUS.

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Derek Bitter's avatar

How would too much support for Vivek/Trump lead to a democratic potus? Wouldn’t too much support for V or T lead to one of them as potus?

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