This article is fundamentally dishonest. Biden didn't show up because he offered DeWine help and DeWine refused it. Also, the train derailed because Trump repealed a rule put in place by Obama that required better braking systems on trains carrying hazardous materials. That repeal happened because Norfolk Southern, among others, lobbied…
This article is fundamentally dishonest. Biden didn't show up because he offered DeWine help and DeWine refused it. Also, the train derailed because Trump repealed a rule put in place by Obama that required better braking systems on trains carrying hazardous materials. That repeal happened because Norfolk Southern, among others, lobbied Trump and made big campaign contributions. That's the real story, not your republican talking point crap that ignores the truth and spins it to look like Trump is the white knight riding into town to save the poor damsels in distress.
Bruce, regardless of whether or not an overheated wheel bearing was the cause of this derailment, the 'Obama brakes' would have contributed *nothing* to the safe operation of this specific train. As Jennifer Homendy, chair of the NTSB, tweeted "The ECP braking rule would’ve applied ONLY to HIGH HAZARD FLAMMABLE TRAINS. The train that derailed in East Palestine was a MIXED FREIGHT TRAIN containing only 3 placarded Class 3 flammable liquids cars."
I understand your frustration, but even though I often fail to practice his principles in my own life, my brain and experience tell me that Dale Carnegie was right about pretty much everything. He didn't describe the way things SHOULD be, but rather how they ARE.
From the video I have seen and the reports I have read, it was wheel bearings that overheated. There are actually sensor boxes along the tracks that look to catch that and are supposed to notify the train operator when it is detected. No idea why that system would appear to have failed.
What problem in this country do Democrats not blame on Trump, or anyone else they think it might stick to? What Democrat in this country has EVER made a mistake about anything?
Biden is the President of the United States. Ohio is a state. He does not need DeWine accepting his help to do the right thing and at least show the hell up. It costs nothing. It requires no approval from the governor. What Trump did or did not do is meaningless to Biden getting off his ass and going to the scene. Nada.
And yeah, Trump showing up and Biden or any senior admin official not showing up, is precisely why Ohio will go republican again. If it does not happen in the Boston to DC corridor or in CA it just is not a priority for democrats.
No the state or local government must request it for a national emergency to be declared. The request for aid for NOLA was not made after Hurricane Katrina.
Lynne, DeWine did request that but that was not my point. My point is that there was and is nothing stopping Biden from visiting other than his own judgement.
Very true. But I am thinking that the optic of the self-avowed pro union President appearing at a significant train derailment less than two months after stuffing it to the rail union was too dismal for even him to deny.
While they do need a stronger response to this toxic mess I agree the article was a bit more emotional then needed. Free Press is stronger with a more nuanced voice. The line about Biden “ never mentioning” paid leave again is misleading. That agreement was less then 2 weeks ago.
Tulsi Gabbard ? She is looking for the media angle. Now JF Vance is in office, he could do something
Biden does need to act or this will be his Katrina
That agreement was signed on December 2 2022 a bit more than two weeks ago. Even this atrocity was more than two weeks ago. Nuance my aunt Fanny. That’s for journalists who are afraid to state facts.
I guess you want the soppy emotionalism in the Ukraine reporting.
A bit more emotional than needed? Good. So next time you’re credulously lapping up emotionally manipulative pro-Democrat propaganda, please try to notice this phenomenon. Thanks.
This particular train was not affected by the rule change under the Trump administration.
The fact that Act Blue and other Democratic Party talking point distributors are pushing this “Trump’s fault!” falsehood reveals a fundamental dishonesty and inability to lead.
Dewine not accepting Biden’s offer of help isn’t the same as the President not visiting a disaster site. Or the f-ing secretary of transportation. Reporting on Trump’s arrival isn’t talking point crap, it’s simply called news. Sorry, Trump not President for 3 years, this one’s on Biden administration.
I am sorry, Biden still can show up. Last time I checked he is still president of US, and doesn't need approval of DeWine to come to Ohio. Same goes for Kamala and Mayor Pete.
Biden had choice to go to Ohio or to Ukraine, he maid his choice.
Mayor Pete is scheduled to be there Thursday. Presidents usually don't go to disasters immediately afterwards because their presence, including their security details, put strain on local services which is detrimental to recovery efforts. EPA officials have been on the ground since day 1 and FEMA does not respond to man-made emergencies.
Thanks for the well reasoned, fact based discussion guys. Sure makes me have confidence that Free Press is solving the bias in journalism problem by letting the facts lead rather than the politics, and you commenters are really astute. Just gotta say it. Oh, and I am actually just a bot.
So should it be called the Federal Office of Natural Emergency Management?
And just to be clear, is it the case in your understanding that they would play no role in the event of nuclear or chemical weapons attacks, both of which are manmade?
Even the horrifically bad bush ii flew over hurricane devastation and was on the ground within a day or two. Biden not only didn’t show up he is telling another country America will pay their social security for them.
As a regular Twitter user, I find in impressive how whenever someone suggests that Mayor Pete isn’t doing a good job, eager defenders quickly show up to praise him. My instinct is always that these are paid posters, much like Meghan Markle’s paid defenders. What do you think?
Even if Bruce is a paid poster he's one of the most pathetic ones I've seen. These posts by Brucey are pure gold. He's living proof that Trump lives in his mind too.
It always nice to have some comedic relief in the comments section here.
This article is fundamentally dishonest. Biden didn't show up because he offered DeWine help and DeWine refused it. Also, the train derailed because Trump repealed a rule put in place by Obama that required better braking systems on trains carrying hazardous materials. That repeal happened because Norfolk Southern, among others, lobbied Trump and made big campaign contributions. That's the real story, not your republican talking point crap that ignores the truth and spins it to look like Trump is the white knight riding into town to save the poor damsels in distress.
As much as I loathe Bush.
The same thing happened in Louisiana. Bush offered help and they turned him down. Who took the brunt of that decision?
Bruce, regardless of whether or not an overheated wheel bearing was the cause of this derailment, the 'Obama brakes' would have contributed *nothing* to the safe operation of this specific train. As Jennifer Homendy, chair of the NTSB, tweeted "The ECP braking rule would’ve applied ONLY to HIGH HAZARD FLAMMABLE TRAINS. The train that derailed in East Palestine was a MIXED FREIGHT TRAIN containing only 3 placarded Class 3 flammable liquids cars."
In her tweet thread, which can be read here https://twitter.com/JenniferHomendy/status/1626379352215547906, she asks that people stop spreading *misinformation* about the Obama brakes.
Regardless, Joe and Pete have been in office more than 2-years now. They own it - East Palestine and ECP brakes - and no one else at this point.
Maybe YOU can finally enlighten me: what precisely happened to cause this train to derail? You must have access to information I haven't seen.
Also, DID Dewine refuse help? I haven't read that. A link would be very helpful.
Absolute shame on the 10 people who clicked ‘like’ on this transparent Act Blue talking point.
Shame on you, you disgusting subhuman scumbags.
I understand your frustration, but even though I often fail to practice his principles in my own life, my brain and experience tell me that Dale Carnegie was right about pretty much everything. He didn't describe the way things SHOULD be, but rather how they ARE.
I take your point but it is my understanding that brakes were not the cause of the derailment. If true to blame Trump for this is disingenious.
From the video I have seen and the reports I have read, it was wheel bearings that overheated. There are actually sensor boxes along the tracks that look to catch that and are supposed to notify the train operator when it is detected. No idea why that system would appear to have failed.
It's our decrepit infrastructure
Lynne!! Please. Of course the brakes aren’t to blame. Why do you ever listen to these people??
If they say it, it is a lie. Okay?
Oopsie. I forgot my place, didn't I?
Amen; thank you for this! What is happening in East Palestine is horrible; to say it’s Joe Biden’s fault is insanity.
Have you been drinking the East Palestine water?
Is that the talking point you received this morning from the DNC? Or do you make up this delusional nonsense all on your own?
The train would not have been subject to the rule you cite and DeWine doesn't control Biden's actions. Or more important - inactions.
Why do Democrats lie incessantly? Well, like the scorpion - it's in their nature.
What problem in this country do Democrats not blame on Trump, or anyone else they think it might stick to? What Democrat in this country has EVER made a mistake about anything?
BULLSHIT........Just BULLSHIT.
Biden is the President of the United States. Ohio is a state. He does not need DeWine accepting his help to do the right thing and at least show the hell up. It costs nothing. It requires no approval from the governor. What Trump did or did not do is meaningless to Biden getting off his ass and going to the scene. Nada.
And yeah, Trump showing up and Biden or any senior admin official not showing up, is precisely why Ohio will go republican again. If it does not happen in the Boston to DC corridor or in CA it just is not a priority for democrats.
No the state or local government must request it for a national emergency to be declared. The request for aid for NOLA was not made after Hurricane Katrina.
Lynne, DeWine did request that but that was not my point. My point is that there was and is nothing stopping Biden from visiting other than his own judgement.
Very true. But I am thinking that the optic of the self-avowed pro union President appearing at a significant train derailment less than two months after stuffing it to the rail union was too dismal for even him to deny.
While they do need a stronger response to this toxic mess I agree the article was a bit more emotional then needed. Free Press is stronger with a more nuanced voice. The line about Biden “ never mentioning” paid leave again is misleading. That agreement was less then 2 weeks ago.
Tulsi Gabbard ? She is looking for the media angle. Now JF Vance is in office, he could do something
Biden does need to act or this will be his Katrina
That agreement was signed on December 2 2022 a bit more than two weeks ago. Even this atrocity was more than two weeks ago. Nuance my aunt Fanny. That’s for journalists who are afraid to state facts.
I guess you want the soppy emotionalism in the Ukraine reporting.
A bit more emotional than needed? Good. So next time you’re credulously lapping up emotionally manipulative pro-Democrat propaganda, please try to notice this phenomenon. Thanks.
This particular train was not affected by the rule change under the Trump administration.
The fact that Act Blue and other Democratic Party talking point distributors are pushing this “Trump’s fault!” falsehood reveals a fundamental dishonesty and inability to lead.
At this point, any time I see Twitter blame Trump I assume it's false.
Or think.
Dewine not accepting Biden’s offer of help isn’t the same as the President not visiting a disaster site. Or the f-ing secretary of transportation. Reporting on Trump’s arrival isn’t talking point crap, it’s simply called news. Sorry, Trump not President for 3 years, this one’s on Biden administration.
Maybe Dewine remembers Reagan's warning about the nine most terrifying words in the English language:
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help"
So that’s why everyone commenting is up in arms about Biden not visiting. Got it.
“Also, the train derailed because Trump repealed a rule put in place by Obama”
———————————————————-
Joe Biden is President. He could have reinstated this alleged rule, you moron.
Also, the train did not derail because of the brakes, you moron.
I am sorry, Biden still can show up. Last time I checked he is still president of US, and doesn't need approval of DeWine to come to Ohio. Same goes for Kamala and Mayor Pete.
Biden had choice to go to Ohio or to Ukraine, he maid his choice.
Mayor Pete is scheduled to be there Thursday. Presidents usually don't go to disasters immediately afterwards because their presence, including their security details, put strain on local services which is detrimental to recovery efforts. EPA officials have been on the ground since day 1 and FEMA does not respond to man-made emergencies.
Thanks for the well reasoned, fact based discussion guys. Sure makes me have confidence that Free Press is solving the bias in journalism problem by letting the facts lead rather than the politics, and you commenters are really astute. Just gotta say it. Oh, and I am actually just a bot.
Is it fact based to assign blame for the crash when we don't know what the cause of the crash was?
And from what I read, Dewine did in fact request assistance and was turned down. You claimed the contrary.
Here is one link: https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/special-reports/train-derailment/train-derailment-east-palestine-ohio-governor-mike-dewine-federal-help-fema/95-cb611bd6-1b2d-4b26-95d1-e1d85856d4b8
So should it be called the Federal Office of Natural Emergency Management?
And just to be clear, is it the case in your understanding that they would play no role in the event of nuclear or chemical weapons attacks, both of which are manmade?
"Mayor Pete is scheduled to be there Thursday"
You mean that Alfred E. Neuman looking "guy"? I heard he was busy doing photo shoots for the rebirth of Mad Magazine.
Even the horrifically bad bush ii flew over hurricane devastation and was on the ground within a day or two. Biden not only didn’t show up he is telling another country America will pay their social security for them.
As a regular Twitter user, I find in impressive how whenever someone suggests that Mayor Pete isn’t doing a good job, eager defenders quickly show up to praise him. My instinct is always that these are paid posters, much like Meghan Markle’s paid defenders. What do you think?
Shills.
Another fun experiment is to point out that the change in vaccine schedule is extremely closely correlated to the rise of autism.
Watch how instantly the pharma shills attack . Same thing happened with covid but of course they had government shilling for them on that one.
Even if Bruce is a paid poster he's one of the most pathetic ones I've seen. These posts by Brucey are pure gold. He's living proof that Trump lives in his mind too.
It always nice to have some comedic relief in the comments section here.
It’d be funny if it wasn’t so utterly stupid
Agreed, Han
Derailment happened on February 3rd. Thursday is February 23rd. If he literally waked, he would arrived there in 3 days. If he took a car, 4 hours.
What was Mayor Pete doing 20 days????
Presidents do go to major disasters, literally every singe one has gone and visited place of major disasters in US.
Enjoying private time.
He told a reporter yesterday that he was taking some personal time. This is what he’s excelled at in this position. The nerve…
What was Mayor Pete doing 20 days????
Washing diapers?
Maybe he’s still breastfeeding.
Probably still trying to get his breast pump to work.
Mayor Pete was busy fretting about the number of straight white men in construction.
Joe Biden’s son died from burn pits.
In Iraq. lol
His son is a hero, Bruce. It’s like he is a son and he is shrrrmvkk and other hfshjsdhhb!!!
A real American hero, this guy.
"train was not considered to be carrying hazardous material"
Vinyl chloride, butyl acrylate, and ethylhexyl acrylate are hazardous materials.
But I agree DeWine has been on this.
Also an Ohioan.
They are but are a lower class than the rule change would have impacted.
I get that; but manifestly those classifications need to be revisited.
Agreed.