I say "she" because the minute you say "he" the conversation is over and you will be screamed at. It's not worth it to me. But I understand the frustration.
You will be screamed at whatever you do other than completely agree. Look at JK Rowling--what she actually said vs the bizarre and frightening reaction to it.
Don't play on their terms. The real way to win the debate is to stand solid and ask them to present any evidence whatsoever that transition therapy significantly reduces suicidality amongst the population with persistent Gender Dysphoria. Others observing your reasoning will be more swayed by this. Accepting the pronoun craze merely enables the transition trend. Demand science.
I think there are some low-quality studies out there that seem to suggest that "transition" does help lower suicide rates. Just saying this so you're prepared. I prefer the "would you tell a girl with anorexia that she totally is fat and you totally support her attempts to eat less food and that you'd be an ally to help her in her further attempts at weight loss?" approach.
It is not clear from the Williams Institute Studies, which are the largest to date, that transitioning significantly reduces suicidality. Suicidality seems to correspond most strongly with the degree of persistent GD. GD only temporarily abates with transition. Reality creeps in over time and they go back to mania. Transitioning does not permanently "cure" the Dysphoria.
The conversation is over the minute you refer to a man with a penis as “she”…… this is how we end up with pronouns for people who identify as clowns and wolfs.
We never should have ceded the language to begin with, but you aren’t going to change anyone’s mind about the absurdity of it all if you start the conversation playing the pronoun game to begin with.
If you still want to honor pronouns, mine are “her majesty and her highness.” Please refer to be as such going forward. (Is that really more insane than referring to a man as “she”?)
You feel coerced to play by their rules. They won. They win everytime people abide by the parameters they set and enforce -- controlling what you can think, and how you speak and act. This is USSR - not USA.
Well not necessarily. If you don't use "she" you are proving their point that you are transphobic. Or they will see it that way. Also this is not a war that can be won. It will never not be that there aren't transgender people. The only thing I'm hoping to do is stop what appears to be a fast moving peer pressure type of contagion where cis gendered white kids feel like they're not part of their peer group and need some sort of aspect that makes them marginalized. I am hoping to bring common sense to the argument but I think refusing to say "she" shuts it down and essentially feeds the persecution complex.
I do not accept your position but I do have the same concern that young people with traditional values will feel the need for a characteristic that will allow them feel marginalized and to be part of a marginalized group.
I do not understand your comment. I referred to young people with traditional values in lieu of less inflammatory language. In reference to my comment, truth about what?
I’m not transphobic because I say “he/ him” to describe a man with a penis. I’m not fearful of them. I don’t “hate” them.
I refuse to play the pronoun game because I’m grounded in objective truth.
You are giving into false dichotomies. People can convince you to go along with any insanity if all they have to do is threaten to call you a name for refusing to play make believe.
Stop calling him “she”. He is not a she. Do not buy into the madness. He is a guy stealing from women.
I say "she" because the minute you say "he" the conversation is over and you will be screamed at. It's not worth it to me. But I understand the frustration.
You will be screamed at whatever you do other than completely agree. Look at JK Rowling--what she actually said vs the bizarre and frightening reaction to it.
Don't play on their terms. The real way to win the debate is to stand solid and ask them to present any evidence whatsoever that transition therapy significantly reduces suicidality amongst the population with persistent Gender Dysphoria. Others observing your reasoning will be more swayed by this. Accepting the pronoun craze merely enables the transition trend. Demand science.
I think there are some low-quality studies out there that seem to suggest that "transition" does help lower suicide rates. Just saying this so you're prepared. I prefer the "would you tell a girl with anorexia that she totally is fat and you totally support her attempts to eat less food and that you'd be an ally to help her in her further attempts at weight loss?" approach.
It is not clear from the Williams Institute Studies, which are the largest to date, that transitioning significantly reduces suicidality. Suicidality seems to correspond most strongly with the degree of persistent GD. GD only temporarily abates with transition. Reality creeps in over time and they go back to mania. Transitioning does not permanently "cure" the Dysphoria.
The conversation is over the minute you refer to a man with a penis as “she”…… this is how we end up with pronouns for people who identify as clowns and wolfs.
We never should have ceded the language to begin with, but you aren’t going to change anyone’s mind about the absurdity of it all if you start the conversation playing the pronoun game to begin with.
If you still want to honor pronouns, mine are “her majesty and her highness.” Please refer to be as such going forward. (Is that really more insane than referring to a man as “she”?)
Personally, I don't do pronouns. I do adjectives.
Mine are - smart and handsome - what are yours?
You feel coerced to play by their rules. They won. They win everytime people abide by the parameters they set and enforce -- controlling what you can think, and how you speak and act. This is USSR - not USA.
you can never go along with a lie. If you do, you have lost. He/She is the central issue.
I agree, but when you say "she" you are conceding the most important part of the argument. Neither option works.
Well not necessarily. If you don't use "she" you are proving their point that you are transphobic. Or they will see it that way. Also this is not a war that can be won. It will never not be that there aren't transgender people. The only thing I'm hoping to do is stop what appears to be a fast moving peer pressure type of contagion where cis gendered white kids feel like they're not part of their peer group and need some sort of aspect that makes them marginalized. I am hoping to bring common sense to the argument but I think refusing to say "she" shuts it down and essentially feeds the persecution complex.
I do not accept your position but I do have the same concern that young people with traditional values will feel the need for a characteristic that will allow them feel marginalized and to be part of a marginalized group.
It has nothing to do with tradition. Everything to do with truth.
I do not understand your comment. I referred to young people with traditional values in lieu of less inflammatory language. In reference to my comment, truth about what?
Basic understanding of sex differences has nothing to do with "tradition" and therefore nothing to do with "traditional values." It is science.
Thanks for the attempt at enlightenment but you completely missed the point.
I would just say that Christian students are a marginalized community.
The truth is always going to be confusing and enraging to those who are steeped in lies. That does not lessen your obligation to speak truth.
I’m not transphobic because I say “he/ him” to describe a man with a penis. I’m not fearful of them. I don’t “hate” them.
I refuse to play the pronoun game because I’m grounded in objective truth.
You are giving into false dichotomies. People can convince you to go along with any insanity if all they have to do is threaten to call you a name for refusing to play make believe.
Being called silly names is not our concern. Telling the truth, even under persecution, is what we are called to do. We can win this.
Sorry to say it Sasha, but it won't work.
You are conceding the entire argument.