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Evans W's avatar

I'd love to see Ramaswamy team up with Kennedy and run as Independents. That would throw a beautiful monkey wrench in the whole damned thing! Oh to dream......

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Ted Ohrn's avatar

Kennedy would be a good Secretary of State.

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Mark's avatar

Why do you think that?

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Hollydays's avatar

Please know, Kennedy is an anti-vaxxer, conspiracist responsible for broad dissemination of the destructive lies about MMR causing autism and is thereby hurting children by destroying our hard-won community immunity against diseases. He is wrong and to the degree he insists and continues doing so in spite of the many studies demonstrating he is just wrong, he is just another narcissist running for office for his own ego gratification.

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vernon's avatar

I find it surprising that the Covid vaccine fiasco, everyone isnтАЩt questioning how we create and test vaccines.

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Leah Rose's avatar

Not sure where you get your information, but RFK Jr. is not particularly focused on MMR. He is focused on vaccine safety. And given how many parents report their child regressed into autism before they ever had an MMR, it wouldn't make sense to look at only that one vaccine.

Until childhood vaccines are individually tested against an inert placebo (like saline; to date they only test them against other vaccines, or against the vaccine being tested minus its antigen) we cannot know how safe they are.

Of note: Not long ago the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) won a FOIA request lawsuit in which the CDC was compelled to provide all the studies they rely on to support their claim that vaccines do not cause autism. The FOIA request specifically asked for the studies to support the claim for the vaccines on the CDC schedule for infants in their first year (MMR isn't given till 18 months). The CDC provided 20 studies, nearly all of which were about MMR, which was not being asked about, and only one of which even mentioned a vaccine given in the first year (DTaP) but which did not address any question of autism. That's how much "evidence" the CDC has to support their assertion that "vaccines don't cause autism."

You are free to trust that "science," but none of the rest of us should be compelled to rely on it.

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Michael D.'s avatar

Particularly after the revelations of the past few years.

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Casey Jones's avatar

In this very forum there appeared an essay most poignant that disclosed an actual -- not a change-of-goalpost number inflation as I had suspected -- autism explosion. I suggest that, rather than run around our hair on fire screaming Anti Vaxer! Anti Vaxer! we channel some of that energy into finding out why. You, Mx Hollydays, can start by offering an alternate candidate that at least correlates with the rises in vaccination and autism.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Hi Hollydays, I think Kennedy reflects what a large number of American's deep inside are thinking and experiencing. There are families whose children have become suddenly autistic and they're looking for some answers, so we can't simply ignore them.

There needs to be a balanced debate on this topic, because since we only hear one side and we never get to see both sides discuss, the population gets polarized into one camp (vaccine-injured vs vaccines are safe) and we never have a healthy conversation (https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-trust-the-science-became-question).

This is why campaigns like RFK and others are getting large supporters, because someone is listening to them. As a country, we need to overall listen to people who state they have been hurt: (https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-dark-side-of-medicine-see-no)

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Kyra's avatar

If you read Kennedy's book on Fauci and how the pharmaceutical industry has been operating for decades now, your eyes and mind will be opened to the corruption that has been done. He wants to protect children not hurt them. He is for the proper safety trials and long term studies on vaccines to be conducted. The FDA, CDC, etc will tell you they have been done, but they haven't. They have done efficacy trials not safety trials to track side effects and injuries from vaccines. Whether you like Kennedy or not, don't you want to know the truth about vaccines and other pharmaceuticals? If what he has written wasn't true he would have been sued many times over. Nobody wants to sue him because they don't want people to hear what he has to say. The pharmaceutical industrial complex is an evil empire at the top.

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Jim Wills's avatar

As the father of a Spectrum child, I would give everything I own to know the cause, but I'm also aware that such people as me make easy prey for crackpots and crackpot theories. I certainly do not trust the Drug-Government Complex, but that does not mean that people such as Kennedy are right - and if he's WRONG and inherits the bully pulpit of the presidency, he could do a lot of damage. Current Alleged President case-in-point....

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Hi Jim, don't know if you're familiar with Steve's work, but he writes a lot on the topic. He had an interview with over 10 family physicians on the topic as well. Here's the link if you're interested: https://kirschsubstack.com/p/doctor-call-provides-even-more-evidence

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Jim Wills's avatar

I read the Substack article, and I just reviewed the MMR vaccination schedule. The second dose is typically given between 4 and 6 years of age - before starting school. That is exactly the time my son started manifesting the symptoms of ADHD. Correlation is not causation, but I certainly am beginning to change my POV on this topic. Thanks again for the information.

addendum: The value of Substack can NOT be overstated. Coming here is like walking from a smoke-filled room into the open, fresh air. I don't know any numbers, but to my eye it is - and should be - handing the Lamestream Media its own head on a platter.

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Leah Rose's avatar

I love your open mind. JB Handley's story as a father of a child diagnosed with autism is different than yours, but if you want detailed information on the science supporting the mechanism of action linking vaccine injury and autism, as well as the Pharma driven/regulatory abetted campaign to obfuscate vaccine safety science, I can't recommend his book enough: How to End the Autism Epidemic.

https://a.co/d/9yIkf70

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Jim Wills's avatar

Thanks so much. I'll give him a good look. We have a large Amish contingent in my area, and I was surprised by an article which purports that the autism rate - including the ADHD kids, which are apparently now lumped in that category - is zero. Not "close to zero," but zero. That doesn't seem possible.

Having had a long medical career, of course I'm skeptical about vaccine-skeptics. That doesn't mean I'm blind, though. I don't care what's the answer; I just want to know what it is.

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George Neidorf's avatar

Kennedy seems to have an illusive relationship with the truth.

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rob's avatar

no one can match fabulist Biden , do you think really believes his son did in Iraq? Start party his he might.

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Mark's avatar

No oneтАЩs perfect. HeтАЩs smarter than the average bear and more honest than the average politician, certainly the two leading contenders.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

I wish as well! I've wanted more people to run independents since Ron Paul did.

But more and more, I lose faith in elections as it only reinforces the fact that the public is told we have a choice, but when we come down to two parties, the oligarch always wins (https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/who-are-the-bad-guys).

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Skinny's avatar

Yip and we have the King of the World Mr Zuckerberg in charge and he is a democrat.

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Madjack's avatar

DonтАЩt forget the admin/security state is really in charge

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