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Michael McCoy's avatar

I don't have a gun. But I am seriously thinking of arm myself. It would be of negligible use but at least I would have some means of defending myself, my family and my neighbors. What happened in Israel could happen here- I am convinced of it. The fake race war, invasion of illegal aliens, defund the police and climate lunatics are but some of the factors taking us down the road to anarchy. I fear for our future like I never have. When we were doing drills for a nuclear attack, I never felt we were truly at risk...imagining a mushroom cloud on the horizon just didn't seem possible. But this shit is getting too real people. We need to get a grip and elect leadership who will work together to protect the American people. And I'm thinking hard about praying. Can't hurt.

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Tom Dillon's avatar

Don't just get a gun. Research what you will buy in the context of what you think you need it for, then make sure you take professionally led training classes on how to use it.

Like you, I am afraid for what I believe is coming in this country - anarchy, terrorist attacks etc. Our leaders at best don't see it; at worst they foment it.

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Ian Jacob's avatar

If you are concerned and thinking about arming yourself check out American Contingency. Started by a former military special ops person, it's a website that builds community networks to help one another in times of difficulty like the pandemic when supply chains were screwed up, in the event of a natural disaster, and or these sorts of unthinkable situations. The government cannot and apparently will not help us anymore, so we need to build our own communities to help ourselves and each other. https://www.americancontingency.com/#mission

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Scott D's avatar

If you do, please don't be one of those people who just buys the gun and assumes they'll know how to use it when the time comes. It's definitely your right to own a gun but it also is a big responsibility despite the cavalier attitude some states have about it.

When we were kids, my dad taught us all to use pistols. We used to be mad at him for not letting us have toy guns, though now, as an adult, I see he wanted us to realize how serious owning and firing a gun is.

Go to a range, practice, learn how to shoot, learn that there are times pulling the gun will likely be used against you. It's not like the movies where hundreds of bad guys keep firing and always miss the hero, but the hero never misses. It's a matter of practice and train.

And if you have small kids at home, PLEASE keep the gun in a safe. Don't just hide it and think they won't find it. They will.

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fathom2023's avatar

I get where you’re coming from, but I don’t share the sentiments of others expressed here. At least, not 100%. I pray too but I don’t think getting a gun is the solution and that may just lead to other problems.

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R Anderson's avatar

I gotta ask, why don't you have a gun?

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NeverDull's avatar

Responsible gun ownership is every American's right. Buy one, learn to use it safely, visit your local gun range regularly so you maintain familiarity with your firearm, and then pray your training is never needed for self defense. But if it is, you are empowered to protect yourself and your family. (Guns are also fun recreation - we shoot skeet and trap with shotguns at our local range, and take target practice with handguns. At home, they are locked in safes accessible only to our family members. There is a way to do this right.)

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Betty McDonald's avatar

If you've never owned a weapon, purchase a shotgun with bean bag ammo. The pump action alone will scare most away and bean bag ammo will be a non-lethal deterrent. I worry that new gun owners will not take the time to shoot and train enough on a regular basis which is necessary for safety for your own family.

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BasedDadRad's avatar

I would not recommend this at all. If you choose a 12g shotgun for home defense, why would you purposely use a less lethal load like birdshot? 00 buckshot only.

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Nothingtoseehere's avatar

I like this idea, Betty. My daughter and I took a private lesson at a gun range but I just couldn't find a pistol I liked and I didn't enjoy shooting it. I think I would like a shotgun better. Plus I don't want to practice that often. Again, great idea as a middle road for those of us who want something to scare people off but not be a menace to ourselves or others because we're not proficient.

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BasedDadRad's avatar

There is not one person with an ounce of knowledge of firearm self defense that would endorse this.

A gun is not used to "scare people off". It is for lethal self defense when severe bodily harm or death to you/family is imminent. You WANT to be the biggest "menace" possible to a threat. The ease of learning how to handle a firearm safely is not proportional to its lethality. Don't handicap yourself because of an irrational fear of certain weapons. Anyone can learn fairly easily to use them responsibly.

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Nothingtoseehere's avatar

Don't LEO's do this for riot control?

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Jon Straub's avatar

Yup. This is a wake-up call for a lot of people. Your government is incompetent and will not protect you. Our intelligence agencies who should have seen this coming were busy surveilling moms at PTA meetings and your text messages to notice this obvious threat.

Don’t waste your time, be sure to get one of those guns “that no one needs” 😉

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Alice Ball's avatar

We now own a Glock bc of local crime (Memphis) and national chaos. The Left are the Wolves and the "moderate Dems" are the Sheep. The rest of us better be ready.

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Janet Breen's avatar

We’ve considered all this for some years now. We have a few ‘guns’. No pistols unfortunately. But a 12 gauge shotgun can blow quite a hole in a body. It’ll be a while before we run out of shells. There are a few swamps out back. Anybody foolish enough to try us on after taking the trouble to find us away out in the bush, will wish they hadn’t, if they have time to register any wishes at all

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KFH's avatar

hadn't read your post and I just posted similar thoughts

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Timothy Kaluhiokalani's avatar

“We need to get a grip and elect leadership who will work together to protect the American people”.

Come on man, Joe Biden and his Obama retread crew, are doing a bang up job. Just ask him! But if you want a more credible source on the impact of Biden/Obama policies, I suggest you ask the Ayatollah, Hamas, Hezbollah and the sleeper cells that have likely crossed our southern border to organize and incite the army of cretins parading around NYC and other US cities wanting to kill more Jews.

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Mike R.'s avatar

Yesterday, I saw a clip of Congresswoman Green demanding that captured Hamas weapons be traced to their source to see if they came from the Afghanistan drawdown or the Ukraine. Sleeper cells and terrorists have to eat and someone must pay for their weapons, transportation and training. So who, and why?

RACKET NEWS/Taibbi has a recent well researched article proposing that the free Western world is being subjected to a CCP style overlay. A kind of "herd managed" surveillance apparatus of "15 minute cities", permitted travel, social credit scored digital currency and control. It's pretty obvious that if criminal finance can pull it off it'll be for the many but not for the few. The GRAYZONE recently ran a piece of NATO propaganda looking ahead to the rebuilding of Ukraine as a "model country" built on the exact specifications I just mentioned. Naomi Klein's insights into disaster capitalism, that the Patriot Act was written and ready for implementation long before 9/11, isn't a comforting reality.

Like others here I was/am enraged at the Hamas terrorist attack on the innocent but, by the nature of today's posts, I believe we all see the possibility and the same potential for bloodshed in American cities and towns. The Hamas attack is a tragedy for Israel, but it is also a clear warning to the peoples of the free world.

Clearly, the source of the civilizational/cultural/societal/financial collapse we are witnessing and experiencing emanates from a cabal of international financiers whose wealth subverted and captured American elected political leadership, intentionally introduced chaos and division into free societies and is seeking totalitarian control of the world. Murder, kidnapping, chaos and irrational violence is the natural environment of the vampire. Davos decrees and the DNC parrots and complies. The George Soros D.A. encouraging crime and the defunding of police departments. The silence of D.C. politicians when Schwab attempts to diktat anti-free speech policy for Americans. Forced mass illegal immigration and the shifting of vital funding away from the welfare of the native born. The funding of BLM riots and looting. Grants and funding to Marxist extremists in their quest to dismantle American education, history and culture.

Could it be more obvious that the DNC/EU/CCP/Davos juggernaut has no alliance to anything but itself? They are capable of any human travesty. Jews survive because they believe that God is. They possess a code of moral ethics, a mythology and are directly connected to and experience a sense of their own living history. These the very values most under attack here in America. Unite or perish.

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Timothy Kaluhiokalani's avatar

I find myself wondering if the puppet masters protecting and managing the Biden administration are deliberately allowing terrorist infiltration of this country so they can enact Patriot Act 2.0 to irrevocably usurp our freedom.

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Mike R.'s avatar

They're capable of it (Patriot 2.0) but I don't think they could do it without a street fight. And, despite its compromise there are good men and women inside both the state and federal bureaucracy.

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Daniel Meehan's avatar

There are also numerous “no go zones” in Sweden which are virtually unpoliced communities run independently by immigrants. That’s insane.

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Sean's avatar

Michael, I cannot tell you how many people who never owned guns are telling me what you're saying.

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Sunny Gardens's avatar

Had the same conversation with my husband yesterday - planned on looking into local lessons in firearm use today.

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The Outsider's avatar

A former Army Ranger here who hasn’t touched a weapon in the last 40 years — I swore I never would — but I am starting to share your sentiment.

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Ian Jacob's avatar

If you are concerned and thinking about arming yourself check out American Contingency. Started by a former military special ops person, it's a website that builds community networks to help one another in times of difficulty like the pandemic when supply chains were screwed up, in the event of a natural disaster, and or these sorts of unthinkable situations. The government cannot and apparently will not help us anymore, so we need to build our own communities to help ourselves and each other. https://www.americancontingency.com/#mission

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The Outsider's avatar

Thanks, I will check it out.

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