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miles.mcstylez's avatar

There's also a generational component to appeasment of this ideology. Boomers, in many cases, are at the tail end of their careers, and are just looking to avoid conflict/scandal until they can "run out the clock" and retire. So you get CEOs, University Deans, Editor-in-Chiefs, etc. who should really know better, but who empower the inmates to run the asylum because they know they only have a few years left of having any skin in the game.

Like climate change, it will be younger generations left holding the bag for this mess.

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jt's avatar

I gave You a heart on this, because in SOME cases it's probably true. And because I'm probably a lot older than You. :)

But I think a very cursory look will show that the VAST MAJORITY of the woke are coming FROM the younger generations. The inmates running the asylums, a lotta 'em? STUDENTS. You see the example in the essay? The examples abound. The thought police?

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miles.mcstylez's avatar

Yes, though it's a minority of students, but they are a very pushy minority, and they've mastered getting the (generally older) executives/admins/deans/authority figures to cave to their demands.

The reason these inmates are running the asylums is because the wardens gave them the keys. My comment addresses WHY the wardens are handing over the keys. Appeasement is a strategy of short-term gain for long-term pain, but when people in charge expect to soon be cashing out their chips, they stop caring about the long term and only focus on the short term, because that's the only time horizon that has any stakes to them personally.

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jt's avatar

Perhaps You are a little... I'll just say this. There's a more nuanced conversation about the older people GIVING the keys away as opposed to the younger generations taking upon themselves to DEMAND the keys. Younger people, these days, more prone to making demands than was common in the past.

What I've noticed, for a few decades now, is that the U.S. is being RUN by minorities of different stripes. It's not about numbers, but political and economic POWER, right? People that don't have power WANT it, and when they GET, the wanna use it. (Not to mention get more of it.)

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miles.mcstylez's avatar

To paraphrase Douglas Murray, kool-aid drinking youngsters have always demanded the keys. What changed is they started getting them.

As for the tail wagging the dog, Nassim Taleb (who I usually can't stand) did a pretty good analysis of that dynamic. Basically, a sufficiently rabid minority can always take power from an apathetic majority.

https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

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Sally Sue's avatar

I think the reason the kool-aid drinking youngsters are getting the keys is because of social media.

Before social media, it was hard for them to call the world's attention to something. With social media, its very easy for random people, of any age, without any job/education/power, to make social media posts calling for virtually anything & getting others on the bandwagon. Before social media, these losers would not get any attention from anyone. There was no way for them to do it. It's not like the newspapers or TV or radio would just feature random nobodies. Now with social media, any random nobody crazy radical can post & get attention.

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jt's avatar

You NAILED it, M. Sally Sue! And just because of the NUMBERS involved, any old random nobody can come up with any old RADICAL view and have 10s of K followers. Gives appearance of WIDESPREAD support.

And face it. Social media are businesses that make MONEY by having people with radical views duke it out. Moderate viewpoints don't appeal to them.

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jt's avatar

Seriously? Medium? High-brow social media, which I walked away from not that long ago because of it's mind pollution.

You show the limits of Your perspective to say that kool-aid drinking youngsters have always demanded the keys. Go back a little further, and You'll find out it was otherwise once upon a time.

Now LATELY, sure...

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miles.mcstylez's avatar

I did say I generally can't stand that writer, and generally speaking I can't stand medium either. Also, if it helps, the guy who I was paraphrasing about kool-aid drinking youngsters is 42.

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jt's avatar

Okay, okay... But if You look at a 42-year-old as someone old and respectable, then Your knee-jerk reaction is to label someone like me (66) nearly senile. I take it as it comes.

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Madjack's avatar

Sad. Need more backbone

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