I'm not sure I would bet on this "mass awakening" quite yet Bari & Oliver. Once the IDF is done dealing with Hamas, and the body count is tallied, the progressives will double down and say 'look at the brutality of the Israeli government!'. My money is that progressives will take an even more radical position against Israel and the west …
I'm not sure I would bet on this "mass awakening" quite yet Bari & Oliver. Once the IDF is done dealing with Hamas, and the body count is tallied, the progressives will double down and say 'look at the brutality of the Israeli government!'. My money is that progressives will take an even more radical position against Israel and the west in general. In no time, academic administrators, corporate media and politicians will begin showing their support for Palestine again, cloaked of course, in their false virtue of justice & peace. If there's one thing that I've learned in the past 5-6 years is that there's almost no changing the minds of social justice/woke progressives.....even in the face of overwhelming evidence. They are simply too captured by the mind virus that is progressivism. Just my 2 cents (which is way over valued).
Evans. I couldn’t agree with you more. While I’d love to believe that the woke BS died on October 8, I think just the opposite. It has become a huge opportunity to pervert reality like we’ve never seen in recent times, and will only serve as “progressive “ fodder to advance antisemitism, thought policing and power to those that have zero intention of giving it up. No, they are simply too emboldened, a sick and narcissistic belief that they could never be wrong.
Those protesters and so forth are a tiny minority of the left. Isn’t it obvious that the media covers the loudest and most out-there? Moreover, you can support the nation of Israel, Israelis, Zionism even, while being profoundly uneasy about the toll on civilians of Israel’s offensive, however justified. I firmly believe it’s going to blow up (not literally, one hopes) in Israel’s face in any case, and that terrifies me. It should terrify every thinking person who cares about Israel’s future.
Unfortunately I fear you are right. We heard the same kind of talk after 9/11. “Everything has changed.” Nothing changed except flying became an even more miserable experience. To paraphrase an old Buick commercial, this is not your grandparents’ USA.
You are right, it’s not as if the “progressive” cultists will start accepting the truth, but some are starting to peel off. This is the first reality shock; it will take many, unfortunately, to bring massive change.
I'm reading another Thomas Sowell book, "The Vision of the Anointed". It describes the phenomenon of the "anointed" refusing to change their minds in the face of overwhelming evidence in great detail. Published in 1996, it's downright prophetic.
The progressive left will continue its ways, yes, but its Jews will not be able to remain as they were. We have finally done what I have said we should do for a long time - turn off the money faucet. Finally that gets their attention. As Jews we know we have no real friends, honestly. When this happened, I said, give it two weeks. Well, two weeks have come and gone, and here we are.
The way I see it is some minds can't be changed -- often people who identify very strongly with one side and have done for years, people with blind trust in the MSM, or often older folks whose political opinions become "calcified". A few minds can and will change. But there's a new barrier now which is the religious-like indoctrination of youth in schools. When I was in school in the 90s, politics were largely not discussed, or with a slight wave towards minor progressivism. Now, certain ideologies - ones that even 10-15 years ago would be unthinkable - are now simply taught as fact, with the voice of authority.
There was recently leaked a video shown to 4th-5th graders about gender, telling them that the doctors "make a best guess" about gender at birth. We all know how much this stuff is pushed. But the weird thing about it to me was the framing. It clearly showed the parents as clueless, stupid, and irresponsible old fuddy-duddies, and the 10-year-old kids as geniuses who were so much smarter than their parents. It reinforced the idea that parents are bad, and kids are smart -- something I'm sure kids are just naturally predisposed to believe. But playing into that, especially on very progressive issues, allows them to completely reprogram kids. It basically helps erase any cultural "software" that parents had uploaded into the minds of children, which allows it to be replaced by whatever the school board wants to teach.
I think this is true and is a logical progression of believing that the village should raise the child. But I also think that old-people-with-calcified-beliefs is an example of the same thing.
We are already seeing pro Palestinian protests around the world and Israel hasn’t even moved one tank into Gaza.
I hope Israel uses this Gaza pause as a bluff, and takes out the head of the snack in Teheran instead. Then israel can mop up Hezbollah and Hamas, after the money supply stops.
I agree with you on the far left, but the middle left (like Chamath) are able to see results and reassess - hope that’s enough to avoid hitting the wall we’re hurling towards.
I'm not sure I would bet on this "mass awakening" quite yet Bari & Oliver. Once the IDF is done dealing with Hamas, and the body count is tallied, the progressives will double down and say 'look at the brutality of the Israeli government!'. My money is that progressives will take an even more radical position against Israel and the west in general. In no time, academic administrators, corporate media and politicians will begin showing their support for Palestine again, cloaked of course, in their false virtue of justice & peace. If there's one thing that I've learned in the past 5-6 years is that there's almost no changing the minds of social justice/woke progressives.....even in the face of overwhelming evidence. They are simply too captured by the mind virus that is progressivism. Just my 2 cents (which is way over valued).
There will be no "mass awakening" and in a year all of them will gleefully cast their vote for Gavin Newsom.
Evans. I couldn’t agree with you more. While I’d love to believe that the woke BS died on October 8, I think just the opposite. It has become a huge opportunity to pervert reality like we’ve never seen in recent times, and will only serve as “progressive “ fodder to advance antisemitism, thought policing and power to those that have zero intention of giving it up. No, they are simply too emboldened, a sick and narcissistic belief that they could never be wrong.
Those protesters and so forth are a tiny minority of the left. Isn’t it obvious that the media covers the loudest and most out-there? Moreover, you can support the nation of Israel, Israelis, Zionism even, while being profoundly uneasy about the toll on civilians of Israel’s offensive, however justified. I firmly believe it’s going to blow up (not literally, one hopes) in Israel’s face in any case, and that terrifies me. It should terrify every thinking person who cares about Israel’s future.
Unfortunately I fear you are right. We heard the same kind of talk after 9/11. “Everything has changed.” Nothing changed except flying became an even more miserable experience. To paraphrase an old Buick commercial, this is not your grandparents’ USA.
I agree. Won't be enough to get them to stop voting for the politicians that keep them in power.
You are right, it’s not as if the “progressive” cultists will start accepting the truth, but some are starting to peel off. This is the first reality shock; it will take many, unfortunately, to bring massive change.
I'm reading another Thomas Sowell book, "The Vision of the Anointed". It describes the phenomenon of the "anointed" refusing to change their minds in the face of overwhelming evidence in great detail. Published in 1996, it's downright prophetic.
“They are simply too captured by the mind virus that is progressivism.”
It’s not a virus, it’s a cancer, metasticizing just like the other varieties.
At best, it’s a brain injury.
To me, there is a narrowing between what’s good and evil.
The progressive left will continue its ways, yes, but its Jews will not be able to remain as they were. We have finally done what I have said we should do for a long time - turn off the money faucet. Finally that gets their attention. As Jews we know we have no real friends, honestly. When this happened, I said, give it two weeks. Well, two weeks have come and gone, and here we are.
Yes you do have friends, really. Take heart, you are not alone.
The way I see it is some minds can't be changed -- often people who identify very strongly with one side and have done for years, people with blind trust in the MSM, or often older folks whose political opinions become "calcified". A few minds can and will change. But there's a new barrier now which is the religious-like indoctrination of youth in schools. When I was in school in the 90s, politics were largely not discussed, or with a slight wave towards minor progressivism. Now, certain ideologies - ones that even 10-15 years ago would be unthinkable - are now simply taught as fact, with the voice of authority.
There was recently leaked a video shown to 4th-5th graders about gender, telling them that the doctors "make a best guess" about gender at birth. We all know how much this stuff is pushed. But the weird thing about it to me was the framing. It clearly showed the parents as clueless, stupid, and irresponsible old fuddy-duddies, and the 10-year-old kids as geniuses who were so much smarter than their parents. It reinforced the idea that parents are bad, and kids are smart -- something I'm sure kids are just naturally predisposed to believe. But playing into that, especially on very progressive issues, allows them to completely reprogram kids. It basically helps erase any cultural "software" that parents had uploaded into the minds of children, which allows it to be replaced by whatever the school board wants to teach.
I think this is true and is a logical progression of believing that the village should raise the child. But I also think that old-people-with-calcified-beliefs is an example of the same thing.
We are already seeing pro Palestinian protests around the world and Israel hasn’t even moved one tank into Gaza.
I hope Israel uses this Gaza pause as a bluff, and takes out the head of the snack in Teheran instead. Then israel can mop up Hezbollah and Hamas, after the money supply stops.
I agree with you on the far left, but the middle left (like Chamath) are able to see results and reassess - hope that’s enough to avoid hitting the wall we’re hurling towards.
Maybe not the crazy progressives but there were a lot of people who tolerated or enabled them. I think those people are waking up g up.
Great take- definitely not overvalued!
Your two cents worth about $20,000,000.00 IMO. You are spot on.