This paragraph: "White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was right when she called it a “cruel, premeditated political stunt” that was “reckless and just plain wrong.” But cruel political stunts sometimes pay off. (See: Trump’s entire first campaign.) Or they backfire. DeSantis has his eye on 2024 and this will certainly enthrall…
This paragraph: "White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was right when she called it a “cruel, premeditated political stunt” that was “reckless and just plain wrong.” But cruel political stunts sometimes pay off. (See: Trump’s entire first campaign.) Or they backfire. DeSantis has his eye on 2024 and this will certainly enthrall the base, but who knows how it will play to most Americans."
This reeks of the liberal bias that says, "if the GOP does it then it is a cruel stunt that may not pay off" versus if the Dems do it then it is "savvy governance that represents the will of the electorate". If aligning with the accuracy of anything that Karine Jean-Pierre said from the podium is your strongest point, you need to go back to the inkwell.
Sharyl Attkisson had a good podcast on how the boarder crisis is impacting Eagle Pass, Texas. She does good independent journalism. Eagle Pass is the opposite of Martha's Vineyard in almost every way. Take a listen to get that needed perspective about the reality of the boarder right now.
Bari and Nellie, if you could get someone like Sharyl Attkisson to do the weekly roundup, that would be awesome!!!! She may not be snarky but she is the real deal.
America was build and made great by immigrants, most of which came with nothing than the clothes on their bodies, just like those arriving at the southern borders nowadays and America will be destroyed by people who consider immigrants trash that should be dumped at somebody else's door.
That's the sad story about the state this country is in.
A people who forgot about its past won't have any future!
I agree with about immigrants coming here to America. I have no problem with legal immigration.
I disagree with the simplicity of your statement. The truth is we do need a secure boarder, we do need to manage it way batter. Our Souther boater is so porous that drugs, human trafficking, terrorists and the like use it for major profits. Not to mention the millions— yes, millions— crossing over.
Was this a political stunt? Yes. Do I like it? No. Were those people political pawns sent to Martha’s Vineyard? Yes. Were they already political pawns in the boarders towns? Yes, they were. At least the media started covering it again! At least we are talking about the problem! Am I okay with it showing how hypocritical wealthy liberals are on the issue? Yes!!!
I think it was terrible that the cages were used in 2018 under Trump. I think it was terrible that were put there in the first place by Obama. I hate that the media decided to ignore the issue as soon as Biden came into office. Expect when the trash boarder agents by saying the “whipped” the people trying the cross. That was a lie! Talk about a political stunt!
I really say heard from folks who live with this boarder crisis every day. Listen to Sharyl Attkisson’s work in the boarder issue. She investigates Eagle Pass, Texas.
What this political stunt showed me was that the media will bend over backward when a weather liberal area is slightly inconvenienced for 24 hours and scream “humanitarian crisis” over 50 people. But when thousands upon thousands effect poor-working class communities that are mostly brown…crickets! Media doesn’t care.
I feel for these people. I’m glad we are discussing the problem. Becuase ignoring it doesn’t help them either.
What makes You so sure that Your ancestors entered America as legal immigrants?
I think the difference anti-immigrant people are making all the time of legal versus illegal immigrants is total bullshit. A lot of immigrants have to flee their homes in order to save their own lifes and their families and why would they care about having the right paperwork? When You're out on the street and a car comes straight at You and You need to get away in a hurry to save Your life would You respect any sign that forbids a lawn to be stepped on?
This believe in having to have the right paperwork is nothing more than the outflow of a believe in big government, that is supposed to rule everything with regulations, merely red tape that needs to get cut away. Not just in America.
Additionally, putting 50 migrants on a plane to a rich island which they consented to is not inhumane. Having a coyote leave 50 migrants locked in a tracker-trailer outside San Anotnio in the June heat to die is inhumane. We must first look at reality and the actual suffering happening at the boarder.
I might not be inhuman from the migrants' perspective, but it shows a deep lack of respect for fellow humans to use them as a political weapon and to treat them like garbage nobody wants.
Just try to imagine if democrats would retaliate as I mentioned (not being serious!) earlier. Would You think rounding up homeless veterans and ship them to Florida would not be inhumane? After all putting 50 homeless veterans into a plane to a rich peninsula which they consented to is not inhumane.
No. It's not. But it gives away the inhumanity that's inside the politician who actually does such things for political gain.
Human beings are no garbage Yo wanna get rid of. And if the US were still a healthy society Americans would still welcome immigrants, with paperwork or without, as a chance to improve their country instead of a burden they wanna get rid of. Just like it used to be, when America was considered as that "shining light on the hill". But I'm afraid the likes of Donald Trump are way to successful in destroying everything that one made America. The rot has already settled in and it will bring this country down eventually.
What I want first and foremost is for people to consider the reality of what is happening in the boarder towns. You live in Canada (per your bio) so you can afford to have those lofty ideals when it comes to the US Southern boarder. The reality as it is today is making the situation increasingly dangerous for the migrants and boarder town citizens alike.
It's still a "political stunt" involving, ya know, actual humans. I find it a bit icky. Surely there were other ways to make the point.
And btw, having been flung over 1000 miles away from the border checkpoints where they are required to return to in order to adjudicate their status with no tracking or ensured path of return to the border, DeSantis and Abbot are about basically guaranteeing these "stunt migrants" are going to disappear into the US a lot easier and become exactly "illegal immigrants" as a result. So, "winning"?
Again, there is a huge disconnect when the DEM's and the GOP do EXACTLY the same thing. One is virtuous and the other evil. The Biden Admin has been bussing and flying illegal immigrants to cities all over the US in the dead of the night for over a year. I have seen video footage of this, so it is not speculation. Are you upset about those stunts? What is the ratio of returning for an immigration hearing for those illegals? They received a free phone from the Dems. Maybe that's what made their activity humane? This has only become a "stunt" or "trafficking" because it was the Martha's Vineyard, and it embarrassed the same people who are funding the destruction of our immigration system.
I was taking a walk outside a few months back, at dawn (5am- ish) to see the sunrise & imagine my shock when I saw a migrant bus pull up and migrants started coming out!! I couldn’t believe my eyes!!!
Imagine the optics of a group of illegals being dumped in the middle of a conservative enclave where they are immediately shuttled off to a local military base within a day. Let's see how "But we don't have the services" flies then.
Sorry you feel this way, I thought saving a thousand miles of bus fare or plane fare which gave the migrants a real boost to get around the country quicker, to reach sanctuary cities which give food shelter and water, is this not what we are about?🇺🇸🇺🇸
Maybe City officials should round up some homeless US Army veterans in their cities and dump them right in front of DeSantis's home for retaliation. Maybe then that scumbag realizes what he's actually doing.
Just kiddin'
Weaponizing defenceless people in need for cheap political gain is some of the very lowest political tactics I can think of. If I ever get to meet any politician doing that kind of evil shit face to face I would spit into his one without even hesitating. The likes of DeSantis are the scum of the earth.
I know you’re just trolling, but it’s important to point out that DeSantis is a veteran, who deployed to a war zone. Have you done that?
As for “weaponizing” the illegals, that is exactly what the Democrats have been doing for years. If they (and you) actually cared about the illegals, they would welcome them into their homes. Instead, you throw a hissy fit because they came into your neighborhood instead of staying in the Republican districts like good little brown people.
I hope you realize that illegal immigrants come to this country to find work? It’s likely easier for them to find work in New York or Chicago then in Texas, where each day 5000 new arrivals put a huge downward pressure on what illegals can earn. They would have headed north anyway, they got the trip for free. You talk of this as if torture was involved.
They're going by choice, voluntarily, because they like it.
"Weaponizing defenceless people in need" is exactly what this ongoing multi-decade situation has been about. Southern states do not want this and the federal government refuses to help.
You are in every way the monster you project on to DeSantis and that is why conservatives are loving this. We start treating you the way you've always treated us, and you think it's the most despicable thing ever. It's working. Let's keep it up.
Do you realize Biden has NEVER been to the border since he took office? Do you realize Harris has NEVER been to the border since she took office? The latter has the nerve to state that the border is secure when she's never been there? What is she afraid of? What about the children that have drowned or have been trafficked to who knows where by God knows who? That's political manipulation.
At the very least, if you are going to do this, you call SOMEONE in charge on Martha's Vineyard and tell them. Just dumping people *IS* cruel. These are PEOPLE. The border is a mess but whichever side you fall on, you don't just dump people, especially KIDS, in some random place without at least a heads up so that place can prepare for them.
How do you not understand that the "cruelty" you are talking about is exactly what southern states have been dealing with for decades? Millions of people dumped with no notice and no help. That is the exact "cruel" situation you're describing.
"You don't dump kids in a random place"
Scott have you read absolutely nothing about the border situation? The number of unaccompanied kids being dropped on them is astounding. Central American families dumping their kids off alone in a strange place is what the whole crisis is about. And people like you have ignored this situation for years, until it became another way for you to vent your hypocritical hatred of Republicans.
Btw, for some of those migrants these trips are like a dream come true. Visit NYC when you've never even left Guatemala before? Hell yes!!
Those people are having a great time getting "cruelly dumped."
Especially love how he's lecturing us on how those migrants are PEOPLE without actually considering the perspectives of those people, who are on the adventure of a lifetime and loving the all-paid exotic vacation they're having. For a Guatemalan or Venezuelan to visit Martha's Vineyard is like a dream come true!
While I agree with you in principle, this is exactly the same thing Lori Lightfoot did to Burr Ridge. The mayor is on record as saying no one in the city was notified before a bus load of migrants was moved from Chicago. It's another instance of a behavior being bad when Republicans do it but not when Democrats do it.
Do you realize that people have died on the roads in Texas? Not everyone gets on a bus; some get out of the water and flee; there are human traffickers waiting for them as well.
In Florida, they're creating chaos because many are involved in dealing drugs and they drive like lunatics without licenses. Ask the woman who lives in a border town how she felt when she came home and found a man sleeping in her bed. Hint: her name isn't Goldilocks. Martha's Vineyard is pretty damn nice this time of year. Ask the Obamas to put them up. That compound has plenty of room.
Of course it’s liberal bias, it’s New York Magazine for God sakes..what would you expect?
Does this mean what you want from Common Sense is only conservative bias?
Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if the writer smiled to himself the whole way through putting this together - knowing the ruckus it would cause among the majority of readers here.
Lee Morris, you are absolutely right. That press secretary paragraph alone filled him with glee. I looked at it as a barometer; it's consoling to know that the blinders are coming off and the gloves are coming on-we have to fight to get our country back.
“Immigration is tough. It always has been because, on the one hand, I think we are naturally a people that wants to help others. And we see tragedy and hardship and families that are desperately trying to get here so that their kids are safe, and they're in some cases fleeing violence or catastrophe. ... At the same time, we're a nation state. We have borders. The idea that we can just have open borders is something that ... as a practical matter, is unsustainable.” -- Obama
The hypocrisy of the Left is as boundless as it is shameless. And they dare accuse the GOP of using illegals as political pawns? Try holding up a mirror. At least the Right is consistent: want to come in? Get in line.
It's not hypocrisy when the Messiah says it though, is it?
How will this play with “most Americans”? I can tell you how it played in my family of (legal!) immigrants living in Texas, who are all politically independents and have no particular liking for governor Abbot: we all loved how the deep hypocrisy of the leftist elites was exposed! True, this problem has been created by decades of bi-partisan inaction by elites from both sides, but the way the Biden administration ignores the problem and outright lies about it is particularly outrageous.
You're a better man than I. I stopped reading after the Hunter Biden Laptop bit. My smugness bucket was full that point. Reeks of liberal bias is an understatement. I was already suspicious after his reveal that he wrote for NY Magazine but was willing to go in with an open mind. Looks like my initial instincts were correct.
The comments, keep me on this site. Real human beings we all are. I’m sure if the pollsters took their polls from the comments here they would get a much more accurate account of what Americans feel.
Honestly? Me too. We all need community/ a place to belong and reading the comments makes me feel like I've found my "tribe" in some measure. I work in a field that is so progressive its nauseating, many of my friends are lefties, I live in a blue area, etc etc. So I needed it, frankly
Yeah Robert I agree with you on K.JP, even the numbers of 9.17 million subscribers to the Times I think need auditing who knows if that’s even true probably the same as the Twitter story most could be bots. And if their revenues are so wonderful they should be paying more for their journalists salaries, not that I subscribe I don’t, The Times is one big fabricated bullsh.. paper of the 21st century.
Who is talking about solutions to our problems? We have options. Decentralization. Governmental Transparency. There is a better way to govern. The Top 3 Technologies We Should be Using to Take Control Of Our Governments Again, and how to create a "Transparency Movement" to get there:
Oh man I rushed here for my comment on that subject.
It's absolutely amazing to see the reaction from these people to just a few hundred, when they have expected southern states to handle hundreds of thousands each year.
The shrieking, howling, unhinged fury over this is leftist Democrat's remaining shred of integrity whispering to them, "NIMBYism is hypocrisy," and "you reap what you sow." If you haven't felt your conscience in years it's incredible painful to have it speak up.
Californians are the worst - they don't care if downtown San Fran decays but they better not see migrants in THEIR ivy-league neighborhoods. That inspires action really fast. Remember when BLM tried to go into Beverly Hills? Oh hellll no.
You have to make these people actually put their money where their mouths are. As this newsletter noted, the Democrat money went to Hershel Walker because Democrats need more extremist Republicans to run against. Division is their entire platform and political strategy. It's not deniable anymore.
But yes, the migrant shipping program is cruel and shocking. Shocking to pompous elites who never ever thought they'd have to see consequences of their own policies, and cruel to their sense of luxurious superiority (moral and financial) that depends upon their bubbles of wealth remaining untouched.
Bravo, Abbot. Bravo, DeSantis. You are exposing the hypocrisy of the classist left like never before.
Ant - When the libs call the immigrants showing up in their towns ‘cruel and shocking’ they mean it’s cruel to the libs and shocking that their virtue signaling was taken seriously
Actually, Beverly Hills was very passive with the BLM protests on the first pass. Little confrontation on the streets by BHPD, no confrontation by staff in the stores when the "protestors" turned into thieves, i.e. a politically correct response. But a week before the 2020 election Beverly Hills was virtually boarded up like a city built of plywood, with security guards at the entrances to most stores. Lesson learned.
I'd have to look up the details but there was a story going around where BLM tried going into a wealthy upper class neighborhood (maybe not Beverly Hills?) and met with an entire police barricade. Not the rich, kids, get back to the middle class neighborhoods with your violence.
This paragraph: "White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was right when she called it a “cruel, premeditated political stunt” that was “reckless and just plain wrong.” But cruel political stunts sometimes pay off. (See: Trump’s entire first campaign.) Or they backfire. DeSantis has his eye on 2024 and this will certainly enthrall the base, but who knows how it will play to most Americans."
This reeks of the liberal bias that says, "if the GOP does it then it is a cruel stunt that may not pay off" versus if the Dems do it then it is "savvy governance that represents the will of the electorate". If aligning with the accuracy of anything that Karine Jean-Pierre said from the podium is your strongest point, you need to go back to the inkwell.
File this writer under my least favorite Nellie substitute to date
Sharyl Attkisson had a good podcast on how the boarder crisis is impacting Eagle Pass, Texas. She does good independent journalism. Eagle Pass is the opposite of Martha's Vineyard in almost every way. Take a listen to get that needed perspective about the reality of the boarder right now.
Bari and Nellie, if you could get someone like Sharyl Attkisson to do the weekly roundup, that would be awesome!!!! She may not be snarky but she is the real deal.
America was build and made great by immigrants, most of which came with nothing than the clothes on their bodies, just like those arriving at the southern borders nowadays and America will be destroyed by people who consider immigrants trash that should be dumped at somebody else's door.
That's the sad story about the state this country is in.
A people who forgot about its past won't have any future!
I agree with about immigrants coming here to America. I have no problem with legal immigration.
I disagree with the simplicity of your statement. The truth is we do need a secure boarder, we do need to manage it way batter. Our Souther boater is so porous that drugs, human trafficking, terrorists and the like use it for major profits. Not to mention the millions— yes, millions— crossing over.
Was this a political stunt? Yes. Do I like it? No. Were those people political pawns sent to Martha’s Vineyard? Yes. Were they already political pawns in the boarders towns? Yes, they were. At least the media started covering it again! At least we are talking about the problem! Am I okay with it showing how hypocritical wealthy liberals are on the issue? Yes!!!
I think it was terrible that the cages were used in 2018 under Trump. I think it was terrible that were put there in the first place by Obama. I hate that the media decided to ignore the issue as soon as Biden came into office. Expect when the trash boarder agents by saying the “whipped” the people trying the cross. That was a lie! Talk about a political stunt!
I really say heard from folks who live with this boarder crisis every day. Listen to Sharyl Attkisson’s work in the boarder issue. She investigates Eagle Pass, Texas.
What this political stunt showed me was that the media will bend over backward when a weather liberal area is slightly inconvenienced for 24 hours and scream “humanitarian crisis” over 50 people. But when thousands upon thousands effect poor-working class communities that are mostly brown…crickets! Media doesn’t care.
I feel for these people. I’m glad we are discussing the problem. Becuase ignoring it doesn’t help them either.
What makes You so sure that Your ancestors entered America as legal immigrants?
I think the difference anti-immigrant people are making all the time of legal versus illegal immigrants is total bullshit. A lot of immigrants have to flee their homes in order to save their own lifes and their families and why would they care about having the right paperwork? When You're out on the street and a car comes straight at You and You need to get away in a hurry to save Your life would You respect any sign that forbids a lawn to be stepped on?
This believe in having to have the right paperwork is nothing more than the outflow of a believe in big government, that is supposed to rule everything with regulations, merely red tape that needs to get cut away. Not just in America.
Additionally, putting 50 migrants on a plane to a rich island which they consented to is not inhumane. Having a coyote leave 50 migrants locked in a tracker-trailer outside San Anotnio in the June heat to die is inhumane. We must first look at reality and the actual suffering happening at the boarder.
I might not be inhuman from the migrants' perspective, but it shows a deep lack of respect for fellow humans to use them as a political weapon and to treat them like garbage nobody wants.
Just try to imagine if democrats would retaliate as I mentioned (not being serious!) earlier. Would You think rounding up homeless veterans and ship them to Florida would not be inhumane? After all putting 50 homeless veterans into a plane to a rich peninsula which they consented to is not inhumane.
No. It's not. But it gives away the inhumanity that's inside the politician who actually does such things for political gain.
Human beings are no garbage Yo wanna get rid of. And if the US were still a healthy society Americans would still welcome immigrants, with paperwork or without, as a chance to improve their country instead of a burden they wanna get rid of. Just like it used to be, when America was considered as that "shining light on the hill". But I'm afraid the likes of Donald Trump are way to successful in destroying everything that one made America. The rot has already settled in and it will bring this country down eventually.
What I want first and foremost is for people to consider the reality of what is happening in the boarder towns. You live in Canada (per your bio) so you can afford to have those lofty ideals when it comes to the US Southern boarder. The reality as it is today is making the situation increasingly dangerous for the migrants and boarder town citizens alike.
Agree !
Sharyl is a straight shooter.
It's still a "political stunt" involving, ya know, actual humans. I find it a bit icky. Surely there were other ways to make the point.
And btw, having been flung over 1000 miles away from the border checkpoints where they are required to return to in order to adjudicate their status with no tracking or ensured path of return to the border, DeSantis and Abbot are about basically guaranteeing these "stunt migrants" are going to disappear into the US a lot easier and become exactly "illegal immigrants" as a result. So, "winning"?
Again, there is a huge disconnect when the DEM's and the GOP do EXACTLY the same thing. One is virtuous and the other evil. The Biden Admin has been bussing and flying illegal immigrants to cities all over the US in the dead of the night for over a year. I have seen video footage of this, so it is not speculation. Are you upset about those stunts? What is the ratio of returning for an immigration hearing for those illegals? They received a free phone from the Dems. Maybe that's what made their activity humane? This has only become a "stunt" or "trafficking" because it was the Martha's Vineyard, and it embarrassed the same people who are funding the destruction of our immigration system.
It’s true
I was taking a walk outside a few months back, at dawn (5am- ish) to see the sunrise & imagine my shock when I saw a migrant bus pull up and migrants started coming out!! I couldn’t believe my eyes!!!
Imagine the optics of a group of illegals being dumped in the middle of a conservative enclave where they are immediately shuttled off to a local military base within a day. Let's see how "But we don't have the services" flies then.
Sorry you feel this way, I thought saving a thousand miles of bus fare or plane fare which gave the migrants a real boost to get around the country quicker, to reach sanctuary cities which give food shelter and water, is this not what we are about?🇺🇸🇺🇸
Maybe City officials should round up some homeless US Army veterans in their cities and dump them right in front of DeSantis's home for retaliation. Maybe then that scumbag realizes what he's actually doing.
Just kiddin'
Weaponizing defenceless people in need for cheap political gain is some of the very lowest political tactics I can think of. If I ever get to meet any politician doing that kind of evil shit face to face I would spit into his one without even hesitating. The likes of DeSantis are the scum of the earth.
I know you’re just trolling, but it’s important to point out that DeSantis is a veteran, who deployed to a war zone. Have you done that?
As for “weaponizing” the illegals, that is exactly what the Democrats have been doing for years. If they (and you) actually cared about the illegals, they would welcome them into their homes. Instead, you throw a hissy fit because they came into your neighborhood instead of staying in the Republican districts like good little brown people.
I hope you realize that illegal immigrants come to this country to find work? It’s likely easier for them to find work in New York or Chicago then in Texas, where each day 5000 new arrivals put a huge downward pressure on what illegals can earn. They would have headed north anyway, they got the trip for free. You talk of this as if torture was involved.
"Rounding up" lol
They're going by choice, voluntarily, because they like it.
"Weaponizing defenceless people in need" is exactly what this ongoing multi-decade situation has been about. Southern states do not want this and the federal government refuses to help.
You are in every way the monster you project on to DeSantis and that is why conservatives are loving this. We start treating you the way you've always treated us, and you think it's the most despicable thing ever. It's working. Let's keep it up.
Do you realize Biden has NEVER been to the border since he took office? Do you realize Harris has NEVER been to the border since she took office? The latter has the nerve to state that the border is secure when she's never been there? What is she afraid of? What about the children that have drowned or have been trafficked to who knows where by God knows who? That's political manipulation.
So what? As far as I recall no foreign army invaded. Seems to me the border is secure.
At the very least, if you are going to do this, you call SOMEONE in charge on Martha's Vineyard and tell them. Just dumping people *IS* cruel. These are PEOPLE. The border is a mess but whichever side you fall on, you don't just dump people, especially KIDS, in some random place without at least a heads up so that place can prepare for them.
My god the irony.
How do you not understand that the "cruelty" you are talking about is exactly what southern states have been dealing with for decades? Millions of people dumped with no notice and no help. That is the exact "cruel" situation you're describing.
"You don't dump kids in a random place"
Scott have you read absolutely nothing about the border situation? The number of unaccompanied kids being dropped on them is astounding. Central American families dumping their kids off alone in a strange place is what the whole crisis is about. And people like you have ignored this situation for years, until it became another way for you to vent your hypocritical hatred of Republicans.
Btw, for some of those migrants these trips are like a dream come true. Visit NYC when you've never even left Guatemala before? Hell yes!!
Those people are having a great time getting "cruelly dumped."
Exactly - the word obtuse comes to mind.
Especially love how he's lecturing us on how those migrants are PEOPLE without actually considering the perspectives of those people, who are on the adventure of a lifetime and loving the all-paid exotic vacation they're having. For a Guatemalan or Venezuelan to visit Martha's Vineyard is like a dream come true!
While I agree with you in principle, this is exactly the same thing Lori Lightfoot did to Burr Ridge. The mayor is on record as saying no one in the city was notified before a bus load of migrants was moved from Chicago. It's another instance of a behavior being bad when Republicans do it but not when Democrats do it.
Do you realize that people have died on the roads in Texas? Not everyone gets on a bus; some get out of the water and flee; there are human traffickers waiting for them as well.
In Florida, they're creating chaos because many are involved in dealing drugs and they drive like lunatics without licenses. Ask the woman who lives in a border town how she felt when she came home and found a man sleeping in her bed. Hint: her name isn't Goldilocks. Martha's Vineyard is pretty damn nice this time of year. Ask the Obamas to put them up. That compound has plenty of room.
Robert, relax!
Of course it’s liberal bias, it’s New York Magazine for God sakes..what would you expect?
Does this mean what you want from Common Sense is only conservative bias?
Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if the writer smiled to himself the whole way through putting this together - knowing the ruckus it would cause among the majority of readers here.
Let’s face it - Common Sense hired a troll!
Good on them.
So, better to laugh it off…
Makes good Common Sense.
Lee Morris, you are absolutely right. That press secretary paragraph alone filled him with glee. I looked at it as a barometer; it's consoling to know that the blinders are coming off and the gloves are coming on-we have to fight to get our country back.
“Immigration is tough. It always has been because, on the one hand, I think we are naturally a people that wants to help others. And we see tragedy and hardship and families that are desperately trying to get here so that their kids are safe, and they're in some cases fleeing violence or catastrophe. ... At the same time, we're a nation state. We have borders. The idea that we can just have open borders is something that ... as a practical matter, is unsustainable.” -- Obama
https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/por-que-son-tan-racistas
The hypocrisy of the Left is as boundless as it is shameless. And they dare accuse the GOP of using illegals as political pawns? Try holding up a mirror. At least the Right is consistent: want to come in? Get in line.
It's not hypocrisy when the Messiah says it though, is it?
Clearly, that was before he and Michelle moved to their compound in Martha's Vineyard.
How will this play with “most Americans”? I can tell you how it played in my family of (legal!) immigrants living in Texas, who are all politically independents and have no particular liking for governor Abbot: we all loved how the deep hypocrisy of the leftist elites was exposed! True, this problem has been created by decades of bi-partisan inaction by elites from both sides, but the way the Biden administration ignores the problem and outright lies about it is particularly outrageous.
You're a better man than I. I stopped reading after the Hunter Biden Laptop bit. My smugness bucket was full that point. Reeks of liberal bias is an understatement. I was already suspicious after his reveal that he wrote for NY Magazine but was willing to go in with an open mind. Looks like my initial instincts were correct.
100%
You know a TGIF is in trouble when the top comment is critical and has about as many likes as the piece itself.
🤣🤣🤣 yeah I have never seen so many likes for a post it was 248 when I starting reading!
It happens almost any time they have a writer from New York or L.A.
TGIF without Nellie is still worth reading for the comments, at least.
The comments, keep me on this site. Real human beings we all are. I’m sure if the pollsters took their polls from the comments here they would get a much more accurate account of what Americans feel.
Honestly? Me too. We all need community/ a place to belong and reading the comments makes me feel like I've found my "tribe" in some measure. I work in a field that is so progressive its nauseating, many of my friends are lefties, I live in a blue area, etc etc. So I needed it, frankly
Yup. It is. And thank God for that
“I’m a features writer at New York magazine”
nuff said
at least we got a warning
Funny, but I was just getting on here to make this very comment and see that I am late to the party. Touché!!
Yeah Robert I agree with you on K.JP, even the numbers of 9.17 million subscribers to the Times I think need auditing who knows if that’s even true probably the same as the Twitter story most could be bots. And if their revenues are so wonderful they should be paying more for their journalists salaries, not that I subscribe I don’t, The Times is one big fabricated bullsh.. paper of the 21st century.
Who is talking about solutions to our problems? We have options. Decentralization. Governmental Transparency. There is a better way to govern. The Top 3 Technologies We Should be Using to Take Control Of Our Governments Again, and how to create a "Transparency Movement" to get there:
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/the-top-3-technologies-we-should
Oh man I rushed here for my comment on that subject.
It's absolutely amazing to see the reaction from these people to just a few hundred, when they have expected southern states to handle hundreds of thousands each year.
The shrieking, howling, unhinged fury over this is leftist Democrat's remaining shred of integrity whispering to them, "NIMBYism is hypocrisy," and "you reap what you sow." If you haven't felt your conscience in years it's incredible painful to have it speak up.
Californians are the worst - they don't care if downtown San Fran decays but they better not see migrants in THEIR ivy-league neighborhoods. That inspires action really fast. Remember when BLM tried to go into Beverly Hills? Oh hellll no.
You have to make these people actually put their money where their mouths are. As this newsletter noted, the Democrat money went to Hershel Walker because Democrats need more extremist Republicans to run against. Division is their entire platform and political strategy. It's not deniable anymore.
But yes, the migrant shipping program is cruel and shocking. Shocking to pompous elites who never ever thought they'd have to see consequences of their own policies, and cruel to their sense of luxurious superiority (moral and financial) that depends upon their bubbles of wealth remaining untouched.
Bravo, Abbot. Bravo, DeSantis. You are exposing the hypocrisy of the classist left like never before.
Ant - When the libs call the immigrants showing up in their towns ‘cruel and shocking’ they mean it’s cruel to the libs and shocking that their virtue signaling was taken seriously
Shocking to see their virgin bubble of luxury crack in the slightest, and cruel to ruin their little utopias with a potent dose of integrity.
Actually, Beverly Hills was very passive with the BLM protests on the first pass. Little confrontation on the streets by BHPD, no confrontation by staff in the stores when the "protestors" turned into thieves, i.e. a politically correct response. But a week before the 2020 election Beverly Hills was virtually boarded up like a city built of plywood, with security guards at the entrances to most stores. Lesson learned.
I'd have to look up the details but there was a story going around where BLM tried going into a wealthy upper class neighborhood (maybe not Beverly Hills?) and met with an entire police barricade. Not the rich, kids, get back to the middle class neighborhoods with your violence.
Compare the resources of many small rural border towns vs. Martha's Vineyard resources to help immigrants.
The next bus should be delivered to the doorstep of Open Society Founder, George Soros.