What lies did the media tell? Yes, MSM dropped the story like a hot pan after realizing it didn't feed the narrative, but I read all the coverage and didn't see any lies. Can you tell me what they were, in your view?
Lies of omission and deliberate obfuscation. If you read the headlines below, would you have any idea that this "parade crash" was not an accident but in fact first-degree vehicular homicide? Would you know that prior to the incident the driver was out on $1K bail and charged with attempting to run over the mother of his child? WaPo mentions the charge, but uses the misleading "SUV slammed" wording as if the car somehow accidentally hit all those people instead of its driver zigzagging to hit as many as possible.
тАЬAfter SUV slammed into Wis. Parade and killed 5, driver to be charged with homicideтАЭ (The Washington Post, Nov. 22)
тАЬA sixth victim has died after the Waukesha Christmas parade crash, prosecutors sayтАЭ (CNN, Nov. 23)
тАЬChild is 6th death in Waukesha parade crash: suspect chargedтАЭ (AP, Nov. 23)
тАЬWaukesha parade crash suspect captured on doorbell camera shortly after crashтАЭ (USA Today, Nov. 23)
тАЬMore than a dozen remain hospitalized after deadly Waukesha parade crashтАЭ (CNN, Nov. 25)
Thanks for this, Missy, I appreciate it. I actually did know all that in the first couple days of coverage---the driver being out on skinny bail, that it was not an accident but deliberate, etc.--from reading the coverage. None of those facts were suppressed, omitted, or obfuscated.
It wasn't wrong for media to use "Waukesha parade crash." They cannot call it murder because it isn't unless the driver is convicted. I was in the newspaper biz for a long time and would have chosen a better word than "crash"--"Waukesha parade killings," for instance, because he did in fact kill those people, with murder yet to be determined--but crash is not incorrect.
In my opinion, the biggest outrage from the media coverage is them dropping the story like a hot rock as soon as they saw the driver was black. That fact violated their mantra that only "murderous white supremecists like Rittenhouse!!" will be in the headlines for weeks on end, and so they quietly went away. This story should remain as prominent as Kenosha, and the killer's life torn apart every bit as much as they did Rittenhouse's.
"I actually did know all that in the first couple days of coverage...from reading the coverage. None of those facts were suppressed, omitted, or obfuscated."
What sources do you use for news and information? I'm hazarding a guess that Missy was referencing the alphabet legacy media - ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBCNPRPBS et al - not all media in general.
For example, Substacks and Epoch Times and Daily Wire are part of the "media" and they covered it well.
Honestly, it's hard to remember, ATG. I read everything under the sun during a major event, so it all blends together after a day or two. I don't watch TV on the grounds they're not journalists they're entertainers, so the alphabets and cable TV are not a factor for me.
NYT and WaPo covered the story well initially---and then dropped it like the plague once they found out it wasn't a "white shaved-head racist patriot!" but a black guy with tats and braids. No longer fit their narrative, so they moved on. Sigh. Drives me nuts. WSJ did a good job, too, then it faded away, just not as fast as NYT and WaPo.
I also read all the local coverage, which was good, as you'd expect for such a major local event.
OK, got it. In that case, I honestly don't know if they did a good job, because I avoid cable and alphabets like the plague. Whether it's FOX or CNN or CBS, they're entertainers first, second, and third, and reporters fourth. I don't waste my time watching.
FWIW, I read daily NYT, WaPo, WSJ, Times of Israel, The Atlantic, Chicago Sun-Times and Tribune, Associated Press, HuffPost, National Review, Bulwark, American Handgunner, and whatever pops up on my Facebook feed that looks interesting. Also the Substacks of Charlie Pierce, Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, Eric Zorn, and Letters From An American.
Wouldn't it be multiple crashes, then? Since multiple people were hit? Not one single crash, as you might expect if someone hit someone and then stopped. It may be simply a difference of opinion, but I don't see "crash" as an accurate word to describe the hitting of multiple pedestrians in different locations with no other vehicles involved.
I do think the national media deliberately downplayed the event and used misleading language wherever possible - and continue to do so. Local media have been better, which is one reason why you and I are well informed. But we mostly agree on this. Thanks again.
I live in Wisconsin, and local media here is just as bad in sanitizing the coverage. It's not the "Waukesha parade attack," it's the "parade tragedy." That implies some kind of accident. The victims were "hit by an SUV" as if the SUV drove itself. Yes they reported on the offender's criminal history and low bail, but that doesn't excuse the rest. A couple of days after the attack, the story mysteriously disappeared from the home page of my local paper, while stories about the Rittenhouse trial fallout were still front and center. And there is zero reporting on the offender's anti-white, pro-BLM social media activity, which would suggest a hate crime. You have to get that from conservative media. Just imagine if the races were reversed.
So local media gets no pass from me. They are almost as shameless and narrative-driven as the national MSM. One of the main problems is industry consolidation, with just a handful of corporate owners controlling multiple media outlets. For instance, Gannett owns the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, and Lee Newspapers owns at least three smaller Wisconsin city dailies. There are no more independent publications. Journalism, as I grew up with it and knew it for decades, is long dead.
Thanks for that update. The Journal-Sentinel is trash. Although I don't think consolidation/corporate ownership is the main factor - it's the same pro-left partisan behavior we see all over the media world.
Oh, absolutely--while "crash" is not wrong, it's certainly not the best choice. I would have used "killings," because the driver did indeed kill those people, even if "murder" has yet to be determined.
Yes on local media--I'm a big fan and get most of my information about local events from them rather than the nationals. If I can get through the firewalls :-)
The media's deliberate lies about Waukesha make me sick to my stomach. Thank you for your reporting on this and other important news.
What lies did the media tell? Yes, MSM dropped the story like a hot pan after realizing it didn't feed the narrative, but I read all the coverage and didn't see any lies. Can you tell me what they were, in your view?
Lies of omission and deliberate obfuscation. If you read the headlines below, would you have any idea that this "parade crash" was not an accident but in fact first-degree vehicular homicide? Would you know that prior to the incident the driver was out on $1K bail and charged with attempting to run over the mother of his child? WaPo mentions the charge, but uses the misleading "SUV slammed" wording as if the car somehow accidentally hit all those people instead of its driver zigzagging to hit as many as possible.
тАЬAfter SUV slammed into Wis. Parade and killed 5, driver to be charged with homicideтАЭ (The Washington Post, Nov. 22)
тАЬA sixth victim has died after the Waukesha Christmas parade crash, prosecutors sayтАЭ (CNN, Nov. 23)
тАЬChild is 6th death in Waukesha parade crash: suspect chargedтАЭ (AP, Nov. 23)
тАЬWaukesha parade crash suspect captured on doorbell camera shortly after crashтАЭ (USA Today, Nov. 23)
тАЬMore than a dozen remain hospitalized after deadly Waukesha parade crashтАЭ (CNN, Nov. 25)
Thanks for this, Missy, I appreciate it. I actually did know all that in the first couple days of coverage---the driver being out on skinny bail, that it was not an accident but deliberate, etc.--from reading the coverage. None of those facts were suppressed, omitted, or obfuscated.
It wasn't wrong for media to use "Waukesha parade crash." They cannot call it murder because it isn't unless the driver is convicted. I was in the newspaper biz for a long time and would have chosen a better word than "crash"--"Waukesha parade killings," for instance, because he did in fact kill those people, with murder yet to be determined--but crash is not incorrect.
In my opinion, the biggest outrage from the media coverage is them dropping the story like a hot rock as soon as they saw the driver was black. That fact violated their mantra that only "murderous white supremecists like Rittenhouse!!" will be in the headlines for weeks on end, and so they quietly went away. This story should remain as prominent as Kenosha, and the killer's life torn apart every bit as much as they did Rittenhouse's.
"I actually did know all that in the first couple days of coverage...from reading the coverage. None of those facts were suppressed, omitted, or obfuscated."
What sources do you use for news and information? I'm hazarding a guess that Missy was referencing the alphabet legacy media - ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBCNPRPBS et al - not all media in general.
For example, Substacks and Epoch Times and Daily Wire are part of the "media" and they covered it well.
Did the alphabet legacy media do likewise?
Honestly, it's hard to remember, ATG. I read everything under the sun during a major event, so it all blends together after a day or two. I don't watch TV on the grounds they're not journalists they're entertainers, so the alphabets and cable TV are not a factor for me.
NYT and WaPo covered the story well initially---and then dropped it like the plague once they found out it wasn't a "white shaved-head racist patriot!" but a black guy with tats and braids. No longer fit their narrative, so they moved on. Sigh. Drives me nuts. WSJ did a good job, too, then it faded away, just not as fast as NYT and WaPo.
I also read all the local coverage, which was good, as you'd expect for such a major local event.
Yes, I should have been more clear. I meant the national mainstream alphabets.
OK, got it. In that case, I honestly don't know if they did a good job, because I avoid cable and alphabets like the plague. Whether it's FOX or CNN or CBS, they're entertainers first, second, and third, and reporters fourth. I don't waste my time watching.
FWIW, I read daily NYT, WaPo, WSJ, Times of Israel, The Atlantic, Chicago Sun-Times and Tribune, Associated Press, HuffPost, National Review, Bulwark, American Handgunner, and whatever pops up on my Facebook feed that looks interesting. Also the Substacks of Charlie Pierce, Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, Eric Zorn, and Letters From An American.
Thank you for your courteous reply, William.
Re: "but crash is not incorrect"
Wouldn't it be multiple crashes, then? Since multiple people were hit? Not one single crash, as you might expect if someone hit someone and then stopped. It may be simply a difference of opinion, but I don't see "crash" as an accurate word to describe the hitting of multiple pedestrians in different locations with no other vehicles involved.
I do think the national media deliberately downplayed the event and used misleading language wherever possible - and continue to do so. Local media have been better, which is one reason why you and I are well informed. But we mostly agree on this. Thanks again.
I live in Wisconsin, and local media here is just as bad in sanitizing the coverage. It's not the "Waukesha parade attack," it's the "parade tragedy." That implies some kind of accident. The victims were "hit by an SUV" as if the SUV drove itself. Yes they reported on the offender's criminal history and low bail, but that doesn't excuse the rest. A couple of days after the attack, the story mysteriously disappeared from the home page of my local paper, while stories about the Rittenhouse trial fallout were still front and center. And there is zero reporting on the offender's anti-white, pro-BLM social media activity, which would suggest a hate crime. You have to get that from conservative media. Just imagine if the races were reversed.
So local media gets no pass from me. They are almost as shameless and narrative-driven as the national MSM. One of the main problems is industry consolidation, with just a handful of corporate owners controlling multiple media outlets. For instance, Gannett owns the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, and Lee Newspapers owns at least three smaller Wisconsin city dailies. There are no more independent publications. Journalism, as I grew up with it and knew it for decades, is long dead.
Agree wholeheartedly as a fellow Wisconsinite!
Thanks for that update. The Journal-Sentinel is trash. Although I don't think consolidation/corporate ownership is the main factor - it's the same pro-left partisan behavior we see all over the media world.
Oh, absolutely--while "crash" is not wrong, it's certainly not the best choice. I would have used "killings," because the driver did indeed kill those people, even if "murder" has yet to be determined.
Yes on local media--I'm a big fan and get most of my information about local events from them rather than the nationals. If I can get through the firewalls :-)