I will dare to add— in spite of the good liberal seculars throughout this forum, much love to you— I will take all the steps forward and add, it is fundamentally satanic.
Because we think, here in the vaunted West, the pinnacle of human civilization, that we can exist without addressing our God, our Creator. We are finding, when we drain our sand castle of the water that holds it together— God, try to replace our natural instinctive yearning for God, for our parents, for our ancestral identity, for love, with our own ideas— that we become barbarians all over again, as the Soviets did, the Maoists did.
Right now we are living on the *fumes* of the force that made Western Civilization possible. What Kiano needs, desperately, whether he knows it or not (and how many of us really always know what is good for us? Or always choose the Good?) in a society which despises and rejects Him, is to recognize that God is love (as a 2000-year-old intuitive, inspired writer named John revealed to us), and God loves HIM, Kiano….
Kiano needs us, God needs US, you and me, to bring His LOVE to him! There is no other answer. The Beatles said it right, All you need is love, but they didn’t quite get where that Love ultimately is sourced from. Please join me in praying for Kiano. Many of us here can testify to death of miracles that changed a hopeless, painful life.
(I know this is very simple and I’m trying to express a 2000-year-old ultra-complex discovery of the relationship of God with humanity in one little post…bear with me please)
I always thought the seeds of ‘Western Civilization’ came from The Enlightenment. But that’s just me..
Your (Christian, I assume) God may not be your neighbour’s God. But that does not mean he or she is any less an American.
And your neighbour may believe in no Creator, but that does not make that person any less human. He or she will most probably still help you in time of need. The belief in a God has no monopoly on compassion.
Belief in self is the seed that births the egotistical monster in all people. It is that monster that has created misery for humanity. The ego is an insatiable soul eating terror. "Belief in self" is the heart of breaking the First Commandment. It is almost as of God knew. Without humility, all people are monsters. Every one. An for takes humility to recognize that.
I look at it from another angle. I personally believe that the ego as you describe it stems from insecurity, not self belief - that is, a person's ego and self worth must be reinforced by the interaction of that person with others (Trump's narcissism and Putin's aggressiveness comes to mind). A truly self confident person will not need to enforce his or her ego onto others at the others' expense - that is, in a manner that tries to shore up their own poor self image.
Isn't being humble a signal that you are strong enough within to look at yourself objectively?
I appreciate your thoughts here, Lee, but the institutions’ development that make Western Civilization great— hospitals, universities, social services, civic institutions, science, philosophy, democratic ideals, *collectively*— preexisted the Enlightenment.
I don’t think I said anything about whether or not a person’s belief makes him or her American or less human… But my theory is, that that guy will “most probably still help you” in time of need only because *our society has been formed* from the man who,
…two thousand years ago, performed miraculous healings and forgave sins and transformed lives but died on a cross at the hands of an enraged mob galled on by jealous leaders, and revolutionized part of the world and scandalized the rest when He preached, “Love your enemies…pray for those who persecute you…forgive your brother seventy times seven.”
But He preached, “LOVE GOD” first. We like to forget that. Enjoy the fruits of Christianity but not all the responsibilities. (And ftr, millions of His friends since then have died excruciatingly torturous deaths rather than deny He rose from death.)
Imagine if you lived in a country where somehow, every single person *LOVED* God and each other like Mother Teresa. (Who did not proselytize, btw.)
“Belief in a god does not make a country great”…
…it entirely depends on *which god* that country believes in (for its foundational principles).
*And* your def of greatness.
*AND* how many humans in that country adhere to the beliefs of that god/God.
Belief in ourselves is nice until you have reached your own absolute limitations of control.
It's the sterility of capitalist objectivity concerning throw away labor. Minimal to no human investment and the belief that people are merely interchangeable parts serving the means to an end. Profit. All meaningful human need and relationship, education, life, liberty, happiness, community, church and family threaten production. Of course, we are living in a rigged game.
Bad economic and social policy causes human trauma and damage. We all bear witness every day. The main trick of the narcissist (vampire) is to feed on and destroy the life and well being of its prey while blaming the victim for the evil of the reality. As many are experiencing today, it is impossible to remain sane when living inside a lie.
We live in the power shadow of avaricious world capital which is using the false moral light of Marxist ideological utopianism to cover its darkness. It has compromised and controls political systems and elected political leadership. Its narcissism can and will rationalize any atrocity. Unproductive "eaters", traumatized and damaged, unable to survive the inhuman destruction of Western Civilization need to be eliminated.
I don't believe that people lived in some wondrous state prior to capitalism. The truth that we can read and learn from authors from ancient Greece onwards tells me that our basic nature, despite huge cultural shifts through the millennia, remains the same. Asserting avarice is a wider ill ignores King Midas. Narcissism as a current ill ignores Narcissus. And seeing capitalism as horrific ignores that it has led to vastly increased wealth for most of the world's population. Wealth equates to less hunger, better housing, and longer lives by reason of sanitation and health care.
I have no problem with capitalism, business or enterprise. I do have a problem with a rigged game and the compromise of elected political leadership. The willful destruction of industry and the looting of economies at the expense of the lives and futures of the people living inside them is criminal. Making a fortune may make one an economic winner but it doesn't make one king.
I would characterize the situation described here as the product of good intentions coupled with a crippling lack of imagination, leading to bad policy.
On that particular combination, the Left certainly does not hold a monopoly. It's not a right-left thing. It's a human thing.
The road to hell is paved with....good intentions.
From C. S. Lewis:
Let us not be deceived by phrases about ‘Man taking charge of his own destiny.’ All that can really happen is that some men will take charge of the destiny of others. . . . The more completely we are planned the more powerful they will be.
. . . .
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
Yeah, because no one on the right has ever advocated for a policy or taken public action that was short-sighted, ill-considered, or downright cruel. Tricking immigrants into boarding planes out of the state, prosecuting women for having miscarriages . . . why, these are the very models of foresight and compassion!
Neither of these characterizations is accurate, Bob. Try filling in the blanks left you by CNN et al. with a fuller intake of research from a broader selection of sources. It will only benefit you. Thanks.
Good for who is the relevant question. The left's intentions are good for them, until they backfire on them. But that's what changing history does to them - they never learn from it.
I understand what you’re saying. I remember the early days of sex education, very controversial at the time, being sold as “just helping prevent pregnancies.”
Now the slope has slipped to all kinds of heretofore bizarre practices.
Another; foreign aid, government and private programs sounded so reasonable but yet, the funds were mostly stolen leaving us with the current “migrant” crisis, worldwide.
Remember NAFTA and “if we employ them there they’re less likely to come here?”
Those good intentions ended with the current flood of humans crashing our border and created the fast pass expressway for fentanyl, and other “commodities,” to flood our country.
Then, there’s “welfare” and so many well intentioned programs too numerous to mention.
The problems always seem to come down to liars, thieves, criminals, smelling the easy money and counting on or, creating, a distracted electorate seemingly disinterested in trying to fix things.
Reading a thread this morning that continues these thoughts on the “good intentioned” failures we all live and I bet most here are aware;
John Hayward
Most of our political class - far too many Repubs and virtually all Democrats - is interested in "managing" problems, not SOLVING them. The rare get-er-done leader like Gov. Ron DeSantis really stands out because most of his colleagues see problems as opportunities for power. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1580188280640786433.html
Chuck Schumer Argues Spending Trillions Will ‘Ease Inflation Pressures’(Payoff to Blue State Capos, i.e., Governors like Newsom, Cuomo, Whitmer, other members of the crime family for their part in taking down the "Orange Man!")
Knowing lots of left wing people - I do think it is genuinely with 'good' intentions. But the slippery slope always takes these people into the waters of crazy. MaID for people with horrific head and neck cancers with <2 months to live makes sense. MaID for people with disabilities or treatable chronic illness or depression is obviously insane.
I'm not sure it's "liberal" per se. But you are spot on to call the philosophies of the Left "fundamentally anti-human." I often mock them as never working. But more and more, I'm becoming persuaded that is the intent and not the result of stupidity. Their intent is to destabilize the United States (and other free nations) to usher in the Brave New World for which they've lusted. Can we call evil what it is?
The next link is an example of the tyranny of the left. I find this topic disgusting and wonder how the left justifies this. Watch the video. I call this the gender NAZIs:
The image of Harris as a hand-puppet brought to mind Willie Brown. Sorry, I just couldn't help it.
Also what was Biden's latest delusional claim yesterday? There are just so many by that senile imbecile its hard to keep them straight. It would be funny if he wasn't "the leader of the Free World." I hold every damned Democrat responsible for this mess and laugh in their faces when they fulminate about the big Orange Menace.
If the left can bring about a 1930s type depression and they are doing this. Economists are predicting a harsh depression. Then they can destroy our republic and (I've said this before.) out of the ashes, shoulder to shoulder, the workers arise and form a communist paradise. There has never been a communist paradise but that is the ultimate plan of the left.
And yet today’s *workers*, producers, protectors, providers, parents, are being waged war on by the Elite classes in order to be enslaved. The Daily Wire I think has an article which details that the income divides are greatest across blue states. Maybe startling to a good liberal who doesn’t read the DW but only the WaPo, but doesn’t it make sense? California, New York City, must be the worst offenders and I don’t need to look at stats
California is the poorest state in the country and it isn't even close. You can't just look at GDP and igore cost of living for the average resident. Red States have higher marriage rates and home ownership rates. They don't have the same cost of living as blue states.
LOL. America isn't going to become a communist county anymore than it's going to become a fascist one. This is a country filled with normal decent people. You all need to log off for a bit and go touch some grass.
The US government, as well as wide swaths of the population have embraced soft Fascist a number of times, and we were infiltrated by communists as well. You simply never connected the dots because you think Fascism is Nazism or you think it is just another name for "religious right wingers". You also don't seem to realize most colleges in the US already are full of Marxists. The "normal decent people" you cite may exist in the US but they are not college grads. Polls from 2014 onwards show a large majority of college students hate free speech and they are terrified of speaking out. That woke and censorial elite has already infiltrated most corporations, bureaucracies etc.
The first synonym for socialist in the Miriam Webster Dictionary is communism.
Anyone who supports socialism is probably an ignoramus and has never bother to do any research on what it really is. Marx is defined as a socialist by historians. If you read up on socialism it should scare the hell out of you. Unless you are Bernie Sanders and his nutty followers.
Nazis were a mere 10% of Germany when they came to power. If most college grads are socialists/Marxists they will push that world view in every elite crevice of the corporate world and government using the NeoMarxist language of Equity and Diversity. Bernie Sanders was absolutely a communist.
1000 UPVOTES!!! “The goal of socialism is Communism,” said Lenin himself!! Socialism is just the gateway drug. Educate your kids!!!
But what does it matter if you’re brought up and taught to believe that socialism and Communism are inherently good?? By your teachers, professors, even many priests! (The Jesuit schools for sure; Lord have mercy on their souls)
I could bring up books like Ciszek’s *With God in Russia* or of course Solzhenitsyn’s infamous *The Gulag Archipelago* but they will just be read as manuals by kids raised to cancel free speech and freedom of belief and who willingly give up all their own privacy anyway!
(I couldn’t read more than one randomly chosen chapter of *The Gulag Archipelago* before it permanently seared images of Hell into my soul. Man’s inhumanity to man, indeed. Godlessness to its logical conclusion. Ok, sorry, I’m done.)
LOL that’s what the ordinary normal decent German said. That’s what the ordinary normal decent Russian or Chinese intellectual said! LOL! No, I can’t ever LOL at complacency. The Bolsheviks took over a country of hundreds of millions with a mere 40,000 people. You can lose your freedom in one poorly formed, miseducated generation. Oh yeah, and Noah’s neighbors laughed too.
The 16th ammendment destroyed our union and turned us into a democratic oligarchy. All we're seeing now is the continued concentration of power and wealth inherent to any social structure with centralized tax structures. The dream is we end up middling and mildly relevant like France, the nightmare is we become the USSR - a "union" structured and equally as dysfunctional as ours. We have a constitution to protect against it, but as people stop believing the constitution is "absolute" (including the president) will it matter? That's the real question society will answer over the next decade. It's sad that our hope is for a 1980's cold war style recommitment to US independence (hilarious looking at it now that the cold war is what revitalized the US energy segment and lead to the boom of the 90's and 2000's - and maybe it's going to happen again...?)
The same overarching principles used in Nazi medicine in the 1930s had precedents US sterilization laws. argets were the deformed, the mentally ill and the unclean. The germ theory, combined with "social medicine" then spread and was applied systematically to races/ethnicities. The medical profession is historically susceptible to extreme hive mind and when it is dominated by avowed progressive statists things get very dark in a hurry. Writing off the mentally ill as unsaveable and signing their death warrant is comparable to early progressive eugenics, even if they use the veneer of consent.
Yes., yes. Let's add assisted suicide to the list of things that are "woke" right behind veganism.
Nobody said anything about making it an industry. I personally think that would be awful. But aren't you all about free-market capitalism? If there's an industry for it, why not? Surely you don't want the government controlling private businesses, right?
Also, it's not "execution: if the person is choosing this route. You need to improve on this.
Anyway, back to the MAIN issue, "My body my choice" re: vaccine, was the big "gotcha," wasn't it? Which, by the way, also created/supported by an industry.
The article literally described that it is an industry. That is not a critique of, or statement on, industry generally. It is a critique of industrial-scale execution of mentally ill people……because duh.
The government forcing people to inject experimental medicine violates bodily autonomy and is fascistic. The government executing the mentally ill, as outlined in the article, is Nazism.
Opposing government enforced medical experimentation on the population while also opposing government sponsored industrial-scale execution of mentally ill people is not the least bit hypocritical.
You hold the opposite position in each case because, as an evil person, you are consistent in your support for modern day Nazism.
Yeah....yeah...."Yet"....it's always "yet," isn't it? Yes, I'm sure the mass genocidal extinction of the mentally ill is just around the corner....as soon as we get done with the white genocide.
Well, Kate put in for a tax raise/increase to help fund all this stuff you're so worried about....right?
I'm not the one who comes off as hysterical pal. Why are you so triggered? Why does it bother you that this article bothers people? Maybe you should be asking yourself those questions.
Not triggered at all. Completely the opposite, because I don't fall for fake, moral panics - unlike you.
You're the one who is triggered, Kate - lying in wait for a genocide against the mentally ill in the U.S. that hasn't happened "Yet." Clearly, this unimportant, anecdotal story triggered some response in you far beyond what was warranted.
Or believing, under some deranged fever dream, that mentally ill people are being executed by the government.
Maybe you should ask yourself why your emotions so easily disconnect you from reality? No one is more easily "triggered" than right-wing Conservatives.
It’s a complete breakdown of morality & ethics of ‘civilization’ as we know it. There is no more right & wrong. Empathy for one’s fellow man or woman is gone. If a society goes down the path of murdering late term babies & even considering after birth abortion, it was only a matter of time before we went down this slippery slope. Pretty soon anyone who is deemed not to be a productive member of society will be dispensable. This is man’s inhumanity to man carried to an extreme.
The liberal elite certainly prefer perceiving themselves as smarter than others to saving people's lives. Ivermectin not only worked in quite a few studies from other countries, it even worked in an NIH study published in June. Yes, the NIH ran a study on ivermectin at Duke and Vanderbilt, and yes, it showed statistically significant efficacy, and yes, they still buried it.
Efficacy was significant reduction in "mean time unwell", saving 0.5 days of sick time across all groups. Also showed a benefit in patients with severe symptoms, faster symptom resolution with an odds ratio of 1.79 (1.06 to 3.04).
This all despite the study being a weird study where they enrolled you online and mailed you the drug, so people didn't even start drug until day 6 of symptoms, even though other drugs are usually started earlier. Paxlovid, for example, must be started by day 5 to be efficacious. Tamiflu must be started within 48 hours of flu symptoms. Also, people on this study only got drug for 3 days. A bit of a weak study design. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.06.10.22276252v1
The next link is an example of the tyranny of the left. I find this topic disgusting and wonder how the left justifies this. Watch the video. I call this the gender NAZIs:
When I think about the demons that must haunt those “death-cafes”—inviting the vulnerable to a “solution” they can never recant, while never taking part themselves. Demons can come in human form, indeed. God help us all.
I will dare to add— in spite of the good liberal seculars throughout this forum, much love to you— I will take all the steps forward and add, it is fundamentally satanic.
Because we think, here in the vaunted West, the pinnacle of human civilization, that we can exist without addressing our God, our Creator. We are finding, when we drain our sand castle of the water that holds it together— God, try to replace our natural instinctive yearning for God, for our parents, for our ancestral identity, for love, with our own ideas— that we become barbarians all over again, as the Soviets did, the Maoists did.
Right now we are living on the *fumes* of the force that made Western Civilization possible. What Kiano needs, desperately, whether he knows it or not (and how many of us really always know what is good for us? Or always choose the Good?) in a society which despises and rejects Him, is to recognize that God is love (as a 2000-year-old intuitive, inspired writer named John revealed to us), and God loves HIM, Kiano….
Kiano needs us, God needs US, you and me, to bring His LOVE to him! There is no other answer. The Beatles said it right, All you need is love, but they didn’t quite get where that Love ultimately is sourced from. Please join me in praying for Kiano. Many of us here can testify to death of miracles that changed a hopeless, painful life.
(I know this is very simple and I’m trying to express a 2000-year-old ultra-complex discovery of the relationship of God with humanity in one little post…bear with me please)
Excellent response. Thank you She has Invisible Friends
We all have our opinions, Invisible Friends.
I always thought the seeds of ‘Western Civilization’ came from The Enlightenment. But that’s just me..
Your (Christian, I assume) God may not be your neighbour’s God. But that does not mean he or she is any less an American.
And your neighbour may believe in no Creator, but that does not make that person any less human. He or she will most probably still help you in time of need. The belief in a God has no monopoly on compassion.
Belief in a God does not make a country great.
Belief in ourselves does.
Belief in self is the seed that births the egotistical monster in all people. It is that monster that has created misery for humanity. The ego is an insatiable soul eating terror. "Belief in self" is the heart of breaking the First Commandment. It is almost as of God knew. Without humility, all people are monsters. Every one. An for takes humility to recognize that.
I look at it from another angle. I personally believe that the ego as you describe it stems from insecurity, not self belief - that is, a person's ego and self worth must be reinforced by the interaction of that person with others (Trump's narcissism and Putin's aggressiveness comes to mind). A truly self confident person will not need to enforce his or her ego onto others at the others' expense - that is, in a manner that tries to shore up their own poor self image.
Isn't being humble a signal that you are strong enough within to look at yourself objectively?
I appreciate your thoughts here, Lee, but the institutions’ development that make Western Civilization great— hospitals, universities, social services, civic institutions, science, philosophy, democratic ideals, *collectively*— preexisted the Enlightenment.
I don’t think I said anything about whether or not a person’s belief makes him or her American or less human… But my theory is, that that guy will “most probably still help you” in time of need only because *our society has been formed* from the man who,
…two thousand years ago, performed miraculous healings and forgave sins and transformed lives but died on a cross at the hands of an enraged mob galled on by jealous leaders, and revolutionized part of the world and scandalized the rest when He preached, “Love your enemies…pray for those who persecute you…forgive your brother seventy times seven.”
But He preached, “LOVE GOD” first. We like to forget that. Enjoy the fruits of Christianity but not all the responsibilities. (And ftr, millions of His friends since then have died excruciatingly torturous deaths rather than deny He rose from death.)
Imagine if you lived in a country where somehow, every single person *LOVED* God and each other like Mother Teresa. (Who did not proselytize, btw.)
“Belief in a god does not make a country great”…
…it entirely depends on *which god* that country believes in (for its foundational principles).
*And* your def of greatness.
*AND* how many humans in that country adhere to the beliefs of that god/God.
Belief in ourselves is nice until you have reached your own absolute limitations of control.
Excellent response. Thank you
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The hearts often show after refreshing the page :)
No apologies necessary.
You defined the problem perfectly.
It's the sterility of capitalist objectivity concerning throw away labor. Minimal to no human investment and the belief that people are merely interchangeable parts serving the means to an end. Profit. All meaningful human need and relationship, education, life, liberty, happiness, community, church and family threaten production. Of course, we are living in a rigged game.
Bad economic and social policy causes human trauma and damage. We all bear witness every day. The main trick of the narcissist (vampire) is to feed on and destroy the life and well being of its prey while blaming the victim for the evil of the reality. As many are experiencing today, it is impossible to remain sane when living inside a lie.
We live in the power shadow of avaricious world capital which is using the false moral light of Marxist ideological utopianism to cover its darkness. It has compromised and controls political systems and elected political leadership. Its narcissism can and will rationalize any atrocity. Unproductive "eaters", traumatized and damaged, unable to survive the inhuman destruction of Western Civilization need to be eliminated.
I don't believe that people lived in some wondrous state prior to capitalism. The truth that we can read and learn from authors from ancient Greece onwards tells me that our basic nature, despite huge cultural shifts through the millennia, remains the same. Asserting avarice is a wider ill ignores King Midas. Narcissism as a current ill ignores Narcissus. And seeing capitalism as horrific ignores that it has led to vastly increased wealth for most of the world's population. Wealth equates to less hunger, better housing, and longer lives by reason of sanitation and health care.
I have no problem with capitalism, business or enterprise. I do have a problem with a rigged game and the compromise of elected political leadership. The willful destruction of industry and the looting of economies at the expense of the lives and futures of the people living inside them is criminal. Making a fortune may make one an economic winner but it doesn't make one king.
I would characterize the situation described here as the product of good intentions coupled with a crippling lack of imagination, leading to bad policy.
On that particular combination, the Left certainly does not hold a monopoly. It's not a right-left thing. It's a human thing.
The road to hell is paved with....good intentions.
From C. S. Lewis:
Let us not be deceived by phrases about ‘Man taking charge of his own destiny.’ All that can really happen is that some men will take charge of the destiny of others. . . . The more completely we are planned the more powerful they will be.
. . . .
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
—C. S. Lewis, God in the Dock
Amen. Except in my universe the tyrants do not go to heaven.
Amen to that. My guess is he was referring to "Karens".
I would say a crippling amount of forethought. Unless of course death panels are the actual goal.
Still, you can track the policies, the principles, and those who adhere to them to the damage they’ve done to society.
Exactly. Human.
Is there anything more human than the words father (removed), mother (birthing person), breast (chest feeding), man, woman and child?
Categorizing folks as left or right then damning them for all the troubles human beings are facing is pointless, not helpful, and very narrow minded.
Tell me, instead, how in your actual life you are working toward Justice and the common good.
If any of my kids call me their birthing person they get no Christmas presents from me this year!
Yeah, because no one on the right has ever advocated for a policy or taken public action that was short-sighted, ill-considered, or downright cruel. Tricking immigrants into boarding planes out of the state, prosecuting women for having miscarriages . . . why, these are the very models of foresight and compassion!
Neither of these characterizations is accurate, Bob. Try filling in the blanks left you by CNN et al. with a fuller intake of research from a broader selection of sources. It will only benefit you. Thanks.
There is no left or right. Give yourself a break.
I disagree about the good intentions. The left is never about good intentions
Joseph -
Good for who is the relevant question. The left's intentions are good for them, until they backfire on them. But that's what changing history does to them - they never learn from it.
I understand what you’re saying. I remember the early days of sex education, very controversial at the time, being sold as “just helping prevent pregnancies.”
Now the slope has slipped to all kinds of heretofore bizarre practices.
Another; foreign aid, government and private programs sounded so reasonable but yet, the funds were mostly stolen leaving us with the current “migrant” crisis, worldwide.
Remember NAFTA and “if we employ them there they’re less likely to come here?”
Those good intentions ended with the current flood of humans crashing our border and created the fast pass expressway for fentanyl, and other “commodities,” to flood our country.
Then, there’s “welfare” and so many well intentioned programs too numerous to mention.
The problems always seem to come down to liars, thieves, criminals, smelling the easy money and counting on or, creating, a distracted electorate seemingly disinterested in trying to fix things.
The American Founders Knew A Virtuous Republic Requires Virtuous People https://thefederalist.com/2017/04/28/the-american-founders-knew-a-virtuous-republic-requires-virtuous-people/
They knew.
Reading a thread this morning that continues these thoughts on the “good intentioned” failures we all live and I bet most here are aware;
John Hayward
Most of our political class - far too many Repubs and virtually all Democrats - is interested in "managing" problems, not SOLVING them. The rare get-er-done leader like Gov. Ron DeSantis really stands out because most of his colleagues see problems as opportunities for power. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1580188280640786433.html
Let’s illustrate:
Rahm Emanuel - Never Waste A Crisis
https://youtu.be/1yeA_kHHLow
Warren: Pandemic Is ‘Our Chance to Expand Our Idea of What Infrastructure Means’ https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/05/27/warren-pandemic-is-our-chance-to-expand-our-idea-of-what-infrastructure-means/#
California Governor Newsom: Virus Is Opportunity for Progressives
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/california-governor-virus-is-opportunity-for-progressives/
Democrat Response
Democrat Clayburn on Coronavirus Bill: ‘This Is a Tremendous Opportunity to Restructure Things to Fit Our Vision’
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/03/23/democrat-clyburn-on-coronavirus-bill-this-is-a-tremendous-opportunity-to-restructure-things-to-fit-our-vision/
Nancy Pelosi: ‘Every Crisis’ Including Coronavirus Is an Opportunity to Advance Leftist (Progressive) Agenda
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/27/nancy-pelosi-every-crisis-including-coronavirus-is-an-opportunity-to-advance-leftist-agenda/
And now, more debt, stimulus:
(See above on "Progressive" and "Not wasting a crisis")
White House touts $1.9T stimulus as 'MOST PROGRESSIVE' in history as GOP bash bill
https://nypost.com/2021/03/08/wh-touts-1-9t-stimulus-as-most-progressive-in-history-gop-bashes-bill/
Examples:
California Tries To Fix Housing Affordability Crisis By Making Housing More Expensive http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/08/california-tries-to-fix-housing-affordab
How Senator Biden Helped Create The Student Debt Crisis President Biden Is Pretending To Fix
BY: JOE POPULARIS SEPTEMBER 01, 2022
https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/01/how-senator-biden-helped-create-the-student-debt-crisis-president-biden-is-trying-to-fix/
Video, Hillary Blaming Homeowners for Financial Crisis:
https://youtu.be/Hb_TFjYfcyQ
Bill Clinton Taking Credit!
Bill Clinton on Community Reinvestment Act:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTZIB6Sika4&list=PLF2E8AA9C8BB5316C
Bill Clinton on deregulation of banks: http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/bill_clinton_the_republicans_m.php?page=all
Youtube, Senate hearing, 2003, John Snow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBIhHi7KEA
Housing Crash Snow Testimony 2004 (Warning of what’s coming)
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2004/03/smacking_fannie_mae.html
Pelosi, Frank, Waters, Others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg
Democrats and the housing bubble, Pelosi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90X74V-hS7U&list=PLF2E8AA9C8BB5316C
2006 More on Housing Bubble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CgJq8OYEl0
And, more on the Covid crisis scam;
3/20/2022 Pelosi Tells Biden to Double His COVID-19 Relief Request https://conservativeamericatoday.com/pelosi-tells-biden-to-double-his-covid-19-relief-request/
Chuck Schumer Argues Spending Trillions Will ‘Ease Inflation Pressures’(Payoff to Blue State Capos, i.e., Governors like Newsom, Cuomo, Whitmer, other members of the crime family for their part in taking down the "Orange Man!")
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2021/07/21/chuck-schumer-argues-spending-trillions-will-ease-inflation-pres%C2%ADsures/
What if there is no crisis? Easy, create one!
Prophetic, American Thinker; Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured (Contrived) Crisis:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
Knowing lots of left wing people - I do think it is genuinely with 'good' intentions. But the slippery slope always takes these people into the waters of crazy. MaID for people with horrific head and neck cancers with <2 months to live makes sense. MaID for people with disabilities or treatable chronic illness or depression is obviously insane.
Yours is a genuinely nuanced comment, one I agree with. It’s hard to find them here sometimes.
Often good intentions, coupled with a poorly formed mind. A dangerous, useful combo.
"Eaters" cut back on profits.
For some reason I can’t upvote your comment. Must be my iPad.
Leftist. Not Liberal.
If the liberals go along with it then they're leftists too. No True Scotsman arguments don't cut it any more.
Fair point. Democrats too.
The return of eugenics to leftwing ideology ( if it ever really left).
I'm not sure it's "liberal" per se. But you are spot on to call the philosophies of the Left "fundamentally anti-human." I often mock them as never working. But more and more, I'm becoming persuaded that is the intent and not the result of stupidity. Their intent is to destabilize the United States (and other free nations) to usher in the Brave New World for which they've lusted. Can we call evil what it is?
Seeing as we don't have a new topic, I'll post these two links.
The ever senile Biden and his hand puppet vice president Harris tell us the border is secur. How do they and the Dem lemmings on the BBS explain this:
https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/el-paso-launches-online-dashboard-to-track-migrant-crisis/
The next link is an example of the tyranny of the left. I find this topic disgusting and wonder how the left justifies this. Watch the video. I call this the gender NAZIs:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dem-candidate-says-defining-a-woman-is-tough-defends-policy-hiding-students-gender-identity-from-parents/ar-AA12Tjdh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f329f3863e854a63a960cd648e95f66f
The image of Harris as a hand-puppet brought to mind Willie Brown. Sorry, I just couldn't help it.
Also what was Biden's latest delusional claim yesterday? There are just so many by that senile imbecile its hard to keep them straight. It would be funny if he wasn't "the leader of the Free World." I hold every damned Democrat responsible for this mess and laugh in their faces when they fulminate about the big Orange Menace.
Yes you can call evil, evil. As in Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia and Mao's China we have departed the political and entered the pathological.
If the left can bring about a 1930s type depression and they are doing this. Economists are predicting a harsh depression. Then they can destroy our republic and (I've said this before.) out of the ashes, shoulder to shoulder, the workers arise and form a communist paradise. There has never been a communist paradise but that is the ultimate plan of the left.
And yet today’s *workers*, producers, protectors, providers, parents, are being waged war on by the Elite classes in order to be enslaved. The Daily Wire I think has an article which details that the income divides are greatest across blue states. Maybe startling to a good liberal who doesn’t read the DW but only the WaPo, but doesn’t it make sense? California, New York City, must be the worst offenders and I don’t need to look at stats
Top 10 is a smattering of red and blue states. I mean its easy to have lower income inequality when everybody is poor.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/income-inequality-by-state
California is the poorest state in the country and it isn't even close. You can't just look at GDP and igore cost of living for the average resident. Red States have higher marriage rates and home ownership rates. They don't have the same cost of living as blue states.
https://www.businessinsider.com/california-has-highest-poverty-level-in-the-us-census-bureau-2021-9
LOL. America isn't going to become a communist county anymore than it's going to become a fascist one. This is a country filled with normal decent people. You all need to log off for a bit and go touch some grass.
The US government, as well as wide swaths of the population have embraced soft Fascist a number of times, and we were infiltrated by communists as well. You simply never connected the dots because you think Fascism is Nazism or you think it is just another name for "religious right wingers". You also don't seem to realize most colleges in the US already are full of Marxists. The "normal decent people" you cite may exist in the US but they are not college grads. Polls from 2014 onwards show a large majority of college students hate free speech and they are terrified of speaking out. That woke and censorial elite has already infiltrated most corporations, bureaucracies etc.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/millennials-support-socialism-because-they-want-make-america-great-everyone-ncna1109191
https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-so-many-millennials-are-socialists
The first synonym for socialist in the Miriam Webster Dictionary is communism.
Anyone who supports socialism is probably an ignoramus and has never bother to do any research on what it really is. Marx is defined as a socialist by historians. If you read up on socialism it should scare the hell out of you. Unless you are Bernie Sanders and his nutty followers.
Nazis were a mere 10% of Germany when they came to power. If most college grads are socialists/Marxists they will push that world view in every elite crevice of the corporate world and government using the NeoMarxist language of Equity and Diversity. Bernie Sanders was absolutely a communist.
1000 UPVOTES!!! “The goal of socialism is Communism,” said Lenin himself!! Socialism is just the gateway drug. Educate your kids!!!
But what does it matter if you’re brought up and taught to believe that socialism and Communism are inherently good?? By your teachers, professors, even many priests! (The Jesuit schools for sure; Lord have mercy on their souls)
I could bring up books like Ciszek’s *With God in Russia* or of course Solzhenitsyn’s infamous *The Gulag Archipelago* but they will just be read as manuals by kids raised to cancel free speech and freedom of belief and who willingly give up all their own privacy anyway!
(I couldn’t read more than one randomly chosen chapter of *The Gulag Archipelago* before it permanently seared images of Hell into my soul. Man’s inhumanity to man, indeed. Godlessness to its logical conclusion. Ok, sorry, I’m done.)
LOL that’s what the ordinary normal decent German said. That’s what the ordinary normal decent Russian or Chinese intellectual said! LOL! No, I can’t ever LOL at complacency. The Bolsheviks took over a country of hundreds of millions with a mere 40,000 people. You can lose your freedom in one poorly formed, miseducated generation. Oh yeah, and Noah’s neighbors laughed too.
The first country the Nazis conquered was their own.
No ordinary normal decent Cuban thought they were getting a monster.
Breaks my heart. God help all these poor people.
Only here to say, I agree. (I first trying to 'like' but the system wouldn't take it, so I'm compelled to flap my lips (keyboard!)...
Who was it that said something like 'give me the children and the world is mine'? Mao? Maybe Lenin? Sad but true, as we are seeing in America.
It seems the hearts come after the page refreshes. Thanks :)
It’s an awful glitch. So you have to count how many times you have tried to recommend some thing and make sure it is an odd number!
Thanks! I see that now.
The 16th ammendment destroyed our union and turned us into a democratic oligarchy. All we're seeing now is the continued concentration of power and wealth inherent to any social structure with centralized tax structures. The dream is we end up middling and mildly relevant like France, the nightmare is we become the USSR - a "union" structured and equally as dysfunctional as ours. We have a constitution to protect against it, but as people stop believing the constitution is "absolute" (including the president) will it matter? That's the real question society will answer over the next decade. It's sad that our hope is for a 1980's cold war style recommitment to US independence (hilarious looking at it now that the cold war is what revitalized the US energy segment and lead to the boom of the 90's and 2000's - and maybe it's going to happen again...?)
THE CONSTITUTION is the only legitimate political frame of reference.
... along with the Federalist Papers, which expand on the reasoning for the unfortunately too brief text in the Constitution itself.
Tulsi Gaddard agrees with as do I.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-leaves-democratic-party-denounces-control-of-an-elitist-cabal-of-warmongers
New Commemorative Pistol
Ruger is coming out with a new pistol in honor of the United States Senate
and House of Representatives.
It will be named the "Congressman."
It doesn't work and you can't fire it.
Tulsi Gabbard is my new heartthrob
Mine too. She actually thinks for herself and doesn't march like a lemming to the party line.
No, she doesn't think for herself. She follows the dictates of her guru, Chris Butler.
Lol....assisted suicide is "woke."
I’m not sure who else, besides Woke Marxists, would support making an industry out of executing people who suffer from mental illness.
It requires a certain level of vermin ethos that only the Woke Marxists posses.
Well, the Nazis murdered the mentally ill as well.
The goverent is not murdering the mentally ill.
Same principle: eugenics. Rid the gene pool of the mentally ill.
Dovetails in nicely with the lefts green population-control agenda.
No one is executing mentally ill people.
Dovetails in nicely with the rights deranged, conspiracy driven existence.
How fortunate for you.
Lol....well I'm not the one imagining that there's a eugenics genocide currently happening.
The same overarching principles used in Nazi medicine in the 1930s had precedents US sterilization laws. argets were the deformed, the mentally ill and the unclean. The germ theory, combined with "social medicine" then spread and was applied systematically to races/ethnicities. The medical profession is historically susceptible to extreme hive mind and when it is dominated by avowed progressive statists things get very dark in a hurry. Writing off the mentally ill as unsaveable and signing their death warrant is comparable to early progressive eugenics, even if they use the veneer of consent.
The NAZIs.
Some company their in, huh?
Yes., yes. Let's add assisted suicide to the list of things that are "woke" right behind veganism.
Nobody said anything about making it an industry. I personally think that would be awful. But aren't you all about free-market capitalism? If there's an industry for it, why not? Surely you don't want the government controlling private businesses, right?
Also, it's not "execution: if the person is choosing this route. You need to improve on this.
Anyway, back to the MAIN issue, "My body my choice" re: vaccine, was the big "gotcha," wasn't it? Which, by the way, also created/supported by an industry.
Well....bring that same energy, now.
Yes or No?
The article literally described that it is an industry. That is not a critique of, or statement on, industry generally. It is a critique of industrial-scale execution of mentally ill people……because duh.
The government forcing people to inject experimental medicine violates bodily autonomy and is fascistic. The government executing the mentally ill, as outlined in the article, is Nazism.
Opposing government enforced medical experimentation on the population while also opposing government sponsored industrial-scale execution of mentally ill people is not the least bit hypocritical.
You hold the opposite position in each case because, as an evil person, you are consistent in your support for modern day Nazism.
Lol. Ok, I'm evil.
BTW, no one is executing mentally ill people.
Yet.
Now, they're just turning them out on the streets to prey or be preyed on by others. It's a start.
Yeah....yeah...."Yet"....it's always "yet," isn't it? Yes, I'm sure the mass genocidal extinction of the mentally ill is just around the corner....as soon as we get done with the white genocide.
Well, Kate put in for a tax raise/increase to help fund all this stuff you're so worried about....right?
Or, you can keep being hysterical about it.
I'm not the one who comes off as hysterical pal. Why are you so triggered? Why does it bother you that this article bothers people? Maybe you should be asking yourself those questions.
Not triggered at all. Completely the opposite, because I don't fall for fake, moral panics - unlike you.
You're the one who is triggered, Kate - lying in wait for a genocide against the mentally ill in the U.S. that hasn't happened "Yet." Clearly, this unimportant, anecdotal story triggered some response in you far beyond what was warranted.
Or believing, under some deranged fever dream, that mentally ill people are being executed by the government.
Maybe you should ask yourself why your emotions so easily disconnect you from reality? No one is more easily "triggered" than right-wing Conservatives.
It’s a complete breakdown of morality & ethics of ‘civilization’ as we know it. There is no more right & wrong. Empathy for one’s fellow man or woman is gone. If a society goes down the path of murdering late term babies & even considering after birth abortion, it was only a matter of time before we went down this slippery slope. Pretty soon anyone who is deemed not to be a productive member of society will be dispensable. This is man’s inhumanity to man carried to an extreme.
...and apparently trending on Twitter, the cancer of this generation's mind.
The liberal elite certainly prefer perceiving themselves as smarter than others to saving people's lives. Ivermectin not only worked in quite a few studies from other countries, it even worked in an NIH study published in June. Yes, the NIH ran a study on ivermectin at Duke and Vanderbilt, and yes, it showed statistically significant efficacy, and yes, they still buried it.
Efficacy was significant reduction in "mean time unwell", saving 0.5 days of sick time across all groups. Also showed a benefit in patients with severe symptoms, faster symptom resolution with an odds ratio of 1.79 (1.06 to 3.04).
This all despite the study being a weird study where they enrolled you online and mailed you the drug, so people didn't even start drug until day 6 of symptoms, even though other drugs are usually started earlier. Paxlovid, for example, must be started by day 5 to be efficacious. Tamiflu must be started within 48 hours of flu symptoms. Also, people on this study only got drug for 3 days. A bit of a weak study design. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.06.10.22276252v1
Seeing as we don't have a new topic, I'll post these two links.
The ever senile Biden and his hand puppet vice president Harris tell us the border is secur. How do they and the Dem lemmings on the BBS explain this:
https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/el-paso-launches-online-dashboard-to-track-migrant-crisis/
The next link is an example of the tyranny of the left. I find this topic disgusting and wonder how the left justifies this. Watch the video. I call this the gender NAZIs:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dem-candidate-says-defining-a-woman-is-tough-defends-policy-hiding-students-gender-identity-from-parents/ar-AA12Tjdh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f329f3863e854a63a960cd648e95f66f
Two more links from the ever senilr, liar in chief, Joe Biden:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says-son-beau-lost-his-life-in-iraq-during-colorado-speech/ar-AA12Tm4B?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bee944dc696b4f7cbda36c5d76f5ec5e
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-lies-and-outright-fabrications-are-constantly-dismissed-downplayed-and-softened-by-media/ar-AA12TZqM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bee944dc696b4f7cbda36c5d76f5ec5e
When I think about the demons that must haunt those “death-cafes”—inviting the vulnerable to a “solution” they can never recant, while never taking part themselves. Demons can come in human form, indeed. God help us all.