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I’ve said it 1,000 times and will say it again...the unifying feature across all liberal ideology today is fundamentally anti-human.

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I'm not sure it's "liberal" per se. But you are spot on to call the philosophies of the Left "fundamentally anti-human." I often mock them as never working. But more and more, I'm becoming persuaded that is the intent and not the result of stupidity. Their intent is to destabilize the United States (and other free nations) to usher in the Brave New World for which they've lusted. Can we call evil what it is?

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If the left can bring about a 1930s type depression and they are doing this. Economists are predicting a harsh depression. Then they can destroy our republic and (I've said this before.) out of the ashes, shoulder to shoulder, the workers arise and form a communist paradise. There has never been a communist paradise but that is the ultimate plan of the left.

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LOL. America isn't going to become a communist county anymore than it's going to become a fascist one. This is a country filled with normal decent people. You all need to log off for a bit and go touch some grass.

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LOL that’s what the ordinary normal decent German said. That’s what the ordinary normal decent Russian or Chinese intellectual said! LOL! No, I can’t ever LOL at complacency. The Bolsheviks took over a country of hundreds of millions with a mere 40,000 people. You can lose your freedom in one poorly formed, miseducated generation. Oh yeah, and Noah’s neighbors laughed too.

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Only here to say, I agree. (I first trying to 'like' but the system wouldn't take it, so I'm compelled to flap my lips (keyboard!)...

Who was it that said something like 'give me the children and the world is mine'? Mao? Maybe Lenin? Sad but true, as we are seeing in America.

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It seems the hearts come after the page refreshes. Thanks :)

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No ordinary normal decent Cuban thought they were getting a monster.

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Breaks my heart. God help all these poor people.

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The first country the Nazis conquered was their own.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/millennials-support-socialism-because-they-want-make-america-great-everyone-ncna1109191

https://www.cato.org/commentary/why-so-many-millennials-are-socialists

The first synonym for socialist in the Miriam Webster Dictionary is communism.

Anyone who supports socialism is probably an ignoramus and has never bother to do any research on what it really is. Marx is defined as a socialist by historians. If you read up on socialism it should scare the hell out of you. Unless you are Bernie Sanders and his nutty followers.

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1000 UPVOTES!!! “The goal of socialism is Communism,” said Lenin himself!! Socialism is just the gateway drug. Educate your kids!!!

But what does it matter if you’re brought up and taught to believe that socialism and Communism are inherently good?? By your teachers, professors, even many priests! (The Jesuit schools for sure; Lord have mercy on their souls)

I could bring up books like Ciszek’s *With God in Russia* or of course Solzhenitsyn’s infamous *The Gulag Archipelago* but they will just be read as manuals by kids raised to cancel free speech and freedom of belief and who willingly give up all their own privacy anyway!

(I couldn’t read more than one randomly chosen chapter of *The Gulag Archipelago* before it permanently seared images of Hell into my soul. Man’s inhumanity to man, indeed. Godlessness to its logical conclusion. Ok, sorry, I’m done.)

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Nazis were a mere 10% of Germany when they came to power. If most college grads are socialists/Marxists they will push that world view in every elite crevice of the corporate world and government using the NeoMarxist language of Equity and Diversity. Bernie Sanders was absolutely a communist.

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The US government, as well as wide swaths of the population have embraced soft Fascist a number of times, and we were infiltrated by communists as well. You simply never connected the dots because you think Fascism is Nazism or you think it is just another name for "religious right wingers". You also don't seem to realize most colleges in the US already are full of Marxists. The "normal decent people" you cite may exist in the US but they are not college grads. Polls from 2014 onwards show a large majority of college students hate free speech and they are terrified of speaking out. That woke and censorial elite has already infiltrated most corporations, bureaucracies etc.

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And yet today’s *workers*, producers, protectors, providers, parents, are being waged war on by the Elite classes in order to be enslaved. The Daily Wire I think has an article which details that the income divides are greatest across blue states. Maybe startling to a good liberal who doesn’t read the DW but only the WaPo, but doesn’t it make sense? California, New York City, must be the worst offenders and I don’t need to look at stats

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Top 10 is a smattering of red and blue states. I mean its easy to have lower income inequality when everybody is poor.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/income-inequality-by-state

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California is the poorest state in the country and it isn't even close. You can't just look at GDP and igore cost of living for the average resident. Red States have higher marriage rates and home ownership rates. They don't have the same cost of living as blue states.

https://www.businessinsider.com/california-has-highest-poverty-level-in-the-us-census-bureau-2021-9

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The 16th ammendment destroyed our union and turned us into a democratic oligarchy. All we're seeing now is the continued concentration of power and wealth inherent to any social structure with centralized tax structures. The dream is we end up middling and mildly relevant like France, the nightmare is we become the USSR - a "union" structured and equally as dysfunctional as ours. We have a constitution to protect against it, but as people stop believing the constitution is "absolute" (including the president) will it matter? That's the real question society will answer over the next decade. It's sad that our hope is for a 1980's cold war style recommitment to US independence (hilarious looking at it now that the cold war is what revitalized the US energy segment and lead to the boom of the 90's and 2000's - and maybe it's going to happen again...?)

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New Commemorative Pistol

Ruger is coming out with a new pistol in honor of the United States Senate

and House of Representatives.

It will be named the "Congressman."

It doesn't work and you can't fire it.

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Tulsi Gabbard is my new heartthrob

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Mine too. She actually thinks for herself and doesn't march like a lemming to the party line.

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THE CONSTITUTION is the only legitimate political frame of reference.

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... along with the Federalist Papers, which expand on the reasoning for the unfortunately too brief text in the Constitution itself.

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Lol....assisted suicide is "woke."

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I’m not sure who else, besides Woke Marxists, would support making an industry out of executing people who suffer from mental illness.

It requires a certain level of vermin ethos that only the Woke Marxists posses.

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Well, the Nazis murdered the mentally ill as well.

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The goverent is not murdering the mentally ill.

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Same principle: eugenics. Rid the gene pool of the mentally ill.

Dovetails in nicely with the lefts green population-control agenda.

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(Banned)Oct 11, 2022·edited Oct 11, 2022

Yes., yes. Let's add assisted suicide to the list of things that are "woke" right behind veganism.

Nobody said anything about making it an industry. I personally think that would be awful. But aren't you all about free-market capitalism? If there's an industry for it, why not? Surely you don't want the government controlling private businesses, right?

Also, it's not "execution: if the person is choosing this route. You need to improve on this.

Anyway, back to the MAIN issue, "My body my choice" re: vaccine, was the big "gotcha," wasn't it? Which, by the way, also created/supported by an industry.

Well....bring that same energy, now.

Yes or No?

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The article literally described that it is an industry. That is not a critique of, or statement on, industry generally. It is a critique of industrial-scale execution of mentally ill people……because duh.

The government forcing people to inject experimental medicine violates bodily autonomy and is fascistic. The government executing the mentally ill, as outlined in the article, is Nazism.

Opposing government enforced medical experimentation on the population while also opposing government sponsored industrial-scale execution of mentally ill people is not the least bit hypocritical.

You hold the opposite position in each case because, as an evil person, you are consistent in your support for modern day Nazism.

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It’s a complete breakdown of morality & ethics of ‘civilization’ as we know it. There is no more right & wrong. Empathy for one’s fellow man or woman is gone. If a society goes down the path of murdering late term babies & even considering after birth abortion, it was only a matter of time before we went down this slippery slope. Pretty soon anyone who is deemed not to be a productive member of society will be dispensable. This is man’s inhumanity to man carried to an extreme.

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Lol. Ok, I'm evil.

BTW, no one is executing mentally ill people.

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The NAZIs.

Some company their in, huh?

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...and apparently trending on Twitter, the cancer of this generation's mind.

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When I think about the demons that must haunt those “death-cafes”—inviting the vulnerable to a “solution” they can never recant, while never taking part themselves. Demons can come in human form, indeed. God help us all.

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The liberal elite certainly prefer perceiving themselves as smarter than others to saving people's lives. Ivermectin not only worked in quite a few studies from other countries, it even worked in an NIH study published in June. Yes, the NIH ran a study on ivermectin at Duke and Vanderbilt, and yes, it showed statistically significant efficacy, and yes, they still buried it.

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Efficacy was significant reduction in "mean time unwell", saving 0.5 days of sick time across all groups. Also showed a benefit in patients with severe symptoms, faster symptom resolution with an odds ratio of 1.79 (1.06 to 3.04).

This all despite the study being a weird study where they enrolled you online and mailed you the drug, so people didn't even start drug until day 6 of symptoms, even though other drugs are usually started earlier. Paxlovid, for example, must be started by day 5 to be efficacious. Tamiflu must be started within 48 hours of flu symptoms. Also, people on this study only got drug for 3 days. A bit of a weak study design. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.06.10.22276252v1

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Seeing as we don't have a new topic, I'll post these two links.

The ever senile Biden and his hand puppet vice president Harris tell us the border is secur. How do they and the Dem lemmings on the BBS explain this:

https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/el-paso-launches-online-dashboard-to-track-migrant-crisis/

The next link is an example of the tyranny of the left. I find this topic disgusting and wonder how the left justifies this. Watch the video. I call this the gender NAZIs:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dem-candidate-says-defining-a-woman-is-tough-defends-policy-hiding-students-gender-identity-from-parents/ar-AA12Tjdh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f329f3863e854a63a960cd648e95f66f

Two more links from the ever senilr, liar in chief, Joe Biden:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says-son-beau-lost-his-life-in-iraq-during-colorado-speech/ar-AA12Tm4B?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bee944dc696b4f7cbda36c5d76f5ec5e

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-lies-and-outright-fabrications-are-constantly-dismissed-downplayed-and-softened-by-media/ar-AA12TZqM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=bee944dc696b4f7cbda36c5d76f5ec5e

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Yes you can call evil, evil. As in Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia and Mao's China we have departed the political and entered the pathological.

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Seeing as we don't have a new topic, I'll post these two links.

The ever senile Biden and his hand puppet vice president Harris tell us the border is secur. How do they and the Dem lemmings on the BBS explain this:

https://nypost.com/2022/10/12/el-paso-launches-online-dashboard-to-track-migrant-crisis/

The next link is an example of the tyranny of the left. I find this topic disgusting and wonder how the left justifies this. Watch the video. I call this the gender NAZIs:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dem-candidate-says-defining-a-woman-is-tough-defends-policy-hiding-students-gender-identity-from-parents/ar-AA12Tjdh?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f329f3863e854a63a960cd648e95f66f

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The image of Harris as a hand-puppet brought to mind Willie Brown. Sorry, I just couldn't help it.

Also what was Biden's latest delusional claim yesterday? There are just so many by that senile imbecile its hard to keep them straight. It would be funny if he wasn't "the leader of the Free World." I hold every damned Democrat responsible for this mess and laugh in their faces when they fulminate about the big Orange Menace.

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The return of eugenics to leftwing ideology ( if it ever really left).

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Oct 11, 2022·edited Oct 11, 2022

I would characterize the situation described here as the product of good intentions coupled with a crippling lack of imagination, leading to bad policy.

On that particular combination, the Left certainly does not hold a monopoly. It's not a right-left thing. It's a human thing.

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I disagree about the good intentions. The left is never about good intentions

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Knowing lots of left wing people - I do think it is genuinely with 'good' intentions. But the slippery slope always takes these people into the waters of crazy. MaID for people with horrific head and neck cancers with <2 months to live makes sense. MaID for people with disabilities or treatable chronic illness or depression is obviously insane.

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Often good intentions, coupled with a poorly formed mind. A dangerous, useful combo.

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"Eaters" cut back on profits.

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For some reason I can’t upvote your comment. Must be my iPad.

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Yours is a genuinely nuanced comment, one I agree with. It’s hard to find them here sometimes.

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I understand what you’re saying. I remember the early days of sex education, very controversial at the time, being sold as “just helping prevent pregnancies.”

Now the slope has slipped to all kinds of heretofore bizarre practices.

Another; foreign aid, government and private programs sounded so reasonable but yet, the funds were mostly stolen leaving us with the current “migrant” crisis, worldwide.

Remember NAFTA and “if we employ them there they’re less likely to come here?”

Those good intentions ended with the current flood of humans crashing our border and created the fast pass expressway for fentanyl, and other “commodities,” to flood our country.

Then, there’s “welfare” and so many well intentioned programs too numerous to mention.

The problems always seem to come down to liars, thieves, criminals, smelling the easy money and counting on or, creating, a distracted electorate seemingly disinterested in trying to fix things.

The American Founders Knew A Virtuous Republic Requires Virtuous People https://thefederalist.com/2017/04/28/the-american-founders-knew-a-virtuous-republic-requires-virtuous-people/

They knew.

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Reading a thread this morning that continues these thoughts on the “good intentioned” failures we all live and I bet most here are aware;

John Hayward

Most of our political class - far too many Repubs and virtually all Democrats - is interested in "managing" problems, not SOLVING them. The rare get-er-done leader like Gov. Ron DeSantis really stands out because most of his colleagues see problems as opportunities for power. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1580188280640786433.html

Let’s illustrate:

Rahm Emanuel - Never Waste A Crisis

https://youtu.be/1yeA_kHHLow

Warren: Pandemic Is ‘Our Chance to Expand Our Idea of What Infrastructure Means’ https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/05/27/warren-pandemic-is-our-chance-to-expand-our-idea-of-what-infrastructure-means/#

California Governor Newsom: Virus Is Opportunity for Progressives

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/california-governor-virus-is-opportunity-for-progressives/

Democrat Response

Democrat Clayburn on Coronavirus Bill: ‘This Is a Tremendous Opportunity to Restructure Things to Fit Our Vision’

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/03/23/democrat-clyburn-on-coronavirus-bill-this-is-a-tremendous-opportunity-to-restructure-things-to-fit-our-vision/

Nancy Pelosi: ‘Every Crisis’ Including Coronavirus Is an Opportunity to Advance Leftist (Progressive) Agenda

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/27/nancy-pelosi-every-crisis-including-coronavirus-is-an-opportunity-to-advance-leftist-agenda/

And now, more debt, stimulus:

(See above on "Progressive" and "Not wasting a crisis")

White House touts $1.9T stimulus as 'MOST PROGRESSIVE' in history as GOP bash bill

https://nypost.com/2021/03/08/wh-touts-1-9t-stimulus-as-most-progressive-in-history-gop-bashes-bill/

Examples:

California Tries To Fix Housing Affordability Crisis By Making Housing More Expensive http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/08/california-tries-to-fix-housing-affordab

How Senator Biden Helped Create The Student Debt Crisis President Biden Is Pretending To Fix

BY: JOE POPULARIS SEPTEMBER 01, 2022

https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/01/how-senator-biden-helped-create-the-student-debt-crisis-president-biden-is-trying-to-fix/

Video, Hillary Blaming Homeowners for Financial Crisis:

https://youtu.be/Hb_TFjYfcyQ

Bill Clinton Taking Credit!

Bill Clinton on Community Reinvestment Act:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTZIB6Sika4&list=PLF2E8AA9C8BB5316C

Bill Clinton on deregulation of banks: http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/bill_clinton_the_republicans_m.php?page=all

Youtube, Senate hearing, 2003, John Snow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBIhHi7KEA

Housing Crash Snow Testimony 2004 (Warning of what’s coming)

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2004/03/smacking_fannie_mae.html

Pelosi, Frank, Waters, Others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg

Democrats and the housing bubble, Pelosi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90X74V-hS7U&list=PLF2E8AA9C8BB5316C

2006 More on Housing Bubble:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CgJq8OYEl0

And, more on the Covid crisis scam;

3/20/2022 Pelosi Tells Biden to Double His COVID-19 Relief Request https://conservativeamericatoday.com/pelosi-tells-biden-to-double-his-covid-19-relief-request/

Chuck Schumer Argues Spending Trillions Will ‘Ease Inflation Pres­sures’(Payoff to Blue State Capos, i.e., Governors like Newsom, Cuomo, Whitmer, other members of the crime family for their part in taking down the "Orange Man!")

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2021/07/21/chuck-schumer-argues-spending-trillions-will-ease-inflation-pres%C2%ADsures/

What if there is no crisis? Easy, create one!

Prophetic, American Thinker; Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured (Contrived) Crisis:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

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Joseph -

Good for who is the relevant question. The left's intentions are good for them, until they backfire on them. But that's what changing history does to them - they never learn from it.

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Exactly. Human.

Is there anything more human than the words father (removed), mother (birthing person), breast (chest feeding), man, woman and child?

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If any of my kids call me their birthing person they get no Christmas presents from me this year!

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Yeah, because no one on the right has ever advocated for a policy or taken public action that was short-sighted, ill-considered, or downright cruel. Tricking immigrants into boarding planes out of the state, prosecuting women for having miscarriages . . . why, these are the very models of foresight and compassion!

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Neither of these characterizations is accurate, Bob. Try filling in the blanks left you by CNN et al. with a fuller intake of research from a broader selection of sources. It will only benefit you. Thanks.

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There is no left or right. Give yourself a break.

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Categorizing folks as left or right then damning them for all the troubles human beings are facing is pointless, not helpful, and very narrow minded.

Tell me, instead, how in your actual life you are working toward Justice and the common good.

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The road to hell is paved with....good intentions.

From C. S. Lewis:

Let us not be deceived by phrases about ‘Man taking charge of his own destiny.’ All that can really happen is that some men will take charge of the destiny of others. . . . The more completely we are planned the more powerful they will be.

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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.

—C. S. Lewis, God in the Dock

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Amen. Except in my universe the tyrants do not go to heaven.

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Amen to that. My guess is he was referring to "Karens".

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Still, you can track the policies, the principles, and those who adhere to them to the damage they’ve done to society.

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I would say a crippling amount of forethought. Unless of course death panels are the actual goal.

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I will dare to add— in spite of the good liberal seculars throughout this forum, much love to you— I will take all the steps forward and add, it is fundamentally satanic.

Because we think, here in the vaunted West, the pinnacle of human civilization, that we can exist without addressing our God, our Creator. We are finding, when we drain our sand castle of the water that holds it together— God, try to replace our natural instinctive yearning for God, for our parents, for our ancestral identity, for love, with our own ideas— that we become barbarians all over again, as the Soviets did, the Maoists did.

Right now we are living on the *fumes* of the force that made Western Civilization possible. What Kiano needs, desperately, whether he knows it or not (and how many of us really always know what is good for us? Or always choose the Good?) in a society which despises and rejects Him, is to recognize that God is love (as a 2000-year-old intuitive, inspired writer named John revealed to us), and God loves HIM, Kiano….

Kiano needs us, God needs US, you and me, to bring His LOVE to him! There is no other answer. The Beatles said it right, All you need is love, but they didn’t quite get where that Love ultimately is sourced from. Please join me in praying for Kiano. Many of us here can testify to death of miracles that changed a hopeless, painful life.

(I know this is very simple and I’m trying to express a 2000-year-old ultra-complex discovery of the relationship of God with humanity in one little post…bear with me please)

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We all have our opinions, Invisible Friends.

I always thought the seeds of ‘Western Civilization’ came from The Enlightenment. But that’s just me..

Your (Christian, I assume) God may not be your neighbour’s God. But that does not mean he or she is any less an American.

And your neighbour may believe in no Creator, but that does not make that person any less human. He or she will most probably still help you in time of need. The belief in a God has no monopoly on compassion.

Belief in a God does not make a country great.

Belief in ourselves does.

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I appreciate your thoughts here, Lee, but the institutions’ development that make Western Civilization great— hospitals, universities, social services, civic institutions, science, philosophy, democratic ideals, *collectively*— preexisted the Enlightenment.

I don’t think I said anything about whether or not a person’s belief makes him or her American or less human… But my theory is, that that guy will “most probably still help you” in time of need only because *our society has been formed* from the man who,

…two thousand years ago, performed miraculous healings and forgave sins and transformed lives but died on a cross at the hands of an enraged mob galled on by jealous leaders, and revolutionized part of the world and scandalized the rest when He preached, “Love your enemies…pray for those who persecute you…forgive your brother seventy times seven.”

But He preached, “LOVE GOD” first. We like to forget that. Enjoy the fruits of Christianity but not all the responsibilities. (And ftr, millions of His friends since then have died excruciatingly torturous deaths rather than deny He rose from death.)

Imagine if you lived in a country where somehow, every single person *LOVED* God and each other like Mother Teresa. (Who did not proselytize, btw.)

“Belief in a god does not make a country great”…

…it entirely depends on *which god* that country believes in (for its foundational principles).

*And* your def of greatness.

*AND* how many humans in that country adhere to the beliefs of that god/God.

Belief in ourselves is nice until you have reached your own absolute limitations of control.

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Belief in self is the seed that births the egotistical monster in all people. It is that monster that has created misery for humanity. The ego is an insatiable soul eating terror. "Belief in self" is the heart of breaking the First Commandment. It is almost as of God knew. Without humility, all people are monsters. Every one. An for takes humility to recognize that.

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I look at it from another angle. I personally believe that the ego as you describe it stems from insecurity, not self belief - that is, a person's ego and self worth must be reinforced by the interaction of that person with others (Trump's narcissism and Putin's aggressiveness comes to mind). A truly self confident person will not need to enforce his or her ego onto others at the others' expense - that is, in a manner that tries to shore up their own poor self image.

Isn't being humble a signal that you are strong enough within to look at yourself objectively?

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No apologies necessary.

You defined the problem perfectly.

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It won’t let me like this but it is enthusiastically liked.

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The hearts often show after refreshing the page :)

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Excellent response. Thank you She has Invisible Friends

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Excellent response. Thank you

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Leftist. Not Liberal.

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If the liberals go along with it then they're leftists too. No True Scotsman arguments don't cut it any more.

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Oct 11, 2022·edited Oct 11, 2022

Fair point. Democrats too.

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It's the sterility of capitalist objectivity concerning throw away labor. Minimal to no human investment and the belief that people are merely interchangeable parts serving the means to an end. Profit. All meaningful human need and relationship, education, life, liberty, happiness, community, church and family threaten production. Of course, we are living in a rigged game.

Bad economic and social policy causes human trauma and damage. We all bear witness every day. The main trick of the narcissist (vampire) is to feed on and destroy the life and well being of its prey while blaming the victim for the evil of the reality. As many are experiencing today, it is impossible to remain sane when living inside a lie.

We live in the power shadow of avaricious world capital which is using the false moral light of Marxist ideological utopianism to cover its darkness. It has compromised and controls political systems and elected political leadership. Its narcissism can and will rationalize any atrocity. Unproductive "eaters", traumatized and damaged, unable to survive the inhuman destruction of Western Civilization need to be eliminated.

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I don't believe that people lived in some wondrous state prior to capitalism. The truth that we can read and learn from authors from ancient Greece onwards tells me that our basic nature, despite huge cultural shifts through the millennia, remains the same. Asserting avarice is a wider ill ignores King Midas. Narcissism as a current ill ignores Narcissus. And seeing capitalism as horrific ignores that it has led to vastly increased wealth for most of the world's population. Wealth equates to less hunger, better housing, and longer lives by reason of sanitation and health care.

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I have no problem with capitalism, business or enterprise. I do have a problem with a rigged game and the compromise of elected political leadership. The willful destruction of industry and the looting of economies at the expense of the lives and futures of the people living inside them is criminal. Making a fortune may make one an economic winner but it doesn't make one king.

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Looks like we’ve gone down the slippery slope again.

Abortion: safe, legal, and rare to shout your abortion and allow it to the moment of birth.

Gay marriage: love is love between two people to what is a woman, really?

Assisted suicide: only for terminally ill patients to if you really feel like it, the government will murder you.

Lastly, and probably most significant, if the Canadian healthcare system thinks that this program will help cut costs, you bet your life that they’ll promote it. Imagine that: a government promoting suicide in order to save money.

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Of the many loony/frightening aspects of this, the extension of the program to "mature minors" may be the worst. Canada seems to be at the forefront of progressive assaults on the family. Killing children and legally blocking the parents from intervening may be the most dystopian idea I've ever heard.

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Trudeau singlehandedly is responsible for much of this - the traditional liberal voting base is actually pretty centrist though clearly social media has driven them pretty far left over the last decade. Trudeau is essentially a democrat socialist that got elected because of his surname. That's it. And the country suffers for it.

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To this and the comment below, I would say that Trudeau is more of a symptom than the cause. Like in the States, he doesn't get away with pushing this agenda without the cover and active collaboration of elitist institutions in government bureaucracy, the media, academia, professional associations, etc...

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I agree with you, Canada from the mild mannered people they were have become full blown crazy. You just had to look at the behavior of the prime Minister when the truckers were protesting. I use to think that America ruled in the loony department but I have flipped over to the Canadians as full blown mad. Perhaps if Trudeau is voted out things might change

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Canada is viewed as mild-mannered because the US and UK protect them.

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The problem seems to be that a majority of Canadians repeatedly indicate they want him, isn't it? You're trying to cure the fever by changing the thermometer reading.

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Probably, but remember Stephen Harper he was the best PM ever of Canada a superb leader, very pro Israel yip Jeff that’s important. He served For 11 years and Canadians loved him.Think if you took a thermometer reading today JT would be out on his backside, Canada seems tired of him!

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Hope so. I'm waiting for that and the covid craziness to die down so I can start walking on the ferry to Victoria again like before.

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To be frank, Canada is still 'better' than the US in that our extremes are still not as bad. Affirmative action is way worse in the USA (though catching up here). Far right anti-abortion laws are far worse in the USA too (most of the South). Almost all crime is permissible, especially if a minority (San Fran, Seattle, etc) or you go to jail for some innane Bylaw being broken. Our most liberal and most conservative areas are still not as extreme as the USA. But we are headed there.

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Canada is a vastly different place/society than the US. Impossible to reasonably compare the two. Open wide your southern border to any and all, and then we’ll see how much better y’all are

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As bad as the US is, I would not want to go to Canada. I think it’s worse. I certainly don’t want my money in a bank where it can be turned off & we don’t have health passports.

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Our political system is different - like most European countries, we are not a two party system. Historically that meant the parties seeking power had to have moderation. We also don't have 'primaries' that allow extremists to get on the ballot box. That is all starting to change nowadays though here too. For the record, our borders are essentially open these days (the demographic changes in Canada are truly mind boggling these last 5 years). Not sure what it takes for an illegal criminal to be deported from this country.

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Yip sadly for all us life has changed completely especially after Covid. Think we heading for a world wide people’s revolution!

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Trudeau (by Klaus Schwabs open admission) is a designated IMF/WEF/CCP hitter.

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lol, a government promoting suicide to save money is hilarious. Like something you'd see in an Idiocracy type movie. "Kill yourself to save lives!"

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Plus, the suicides get to donate their organs. Win win for everyone 🤑

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They'll get to the point of killing everyone with a significant illness, then claim to have the best healthcare system in the world because the people remaining are healthy and long-lived!

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Maybe someone should call it something like "Death Panels."

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That’s like Iran saying that they have no gay men.

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Iceland says that about having “eradicated” Down Syndrome. They just abort 95% of their Downs babies.

As Mother Teresa said (paraphrased), there is no poverty like Western poverty.

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But does anyone give any credit to the Cat’lics, who’ve been warning all of society and opposing theses things on principle all along?? Since the times of the Roman Empire? and whose whole modus operandi is to help the downtrodden experience more happiness and dignity in life?

(Maybe you’ve never met a really great Christian, sorry about that, so think in the ideal— the ultimate in modern times was Mother Teresa…who taught the most impoverished women how to track their cycles! How many liberals/leftists would consider empowering impoverished women in mud huts or street shacks with the knowledge to manage their fertility without drugs and foreign objects/injections. How many lives she transformed, without ever giving in to death as the answer.)

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The left-wing line is that moral conservatism "lost the battle of ideas".

It did not actually lose that battle, though. It lost democratic elections. But elections do not decide what is right; elections decide what we are going to do.

We have democratically gone against moral conservatism, and the results are bad. From a "battle of ideas" perspective, this suggests that moral conservatism was correct.

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The slippery slope is the sole means of the advance of left-wing politics.

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I've also heard it referred to as the "long march".

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If you were against getting vaccinated, you should have no problem with this either.

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Yes, because if I don’t want a vaccine for a disease that I already have natural immunity against, then I’m pro-state sponsored suicide.

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Please don't feed the troll.

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lol I can't help myself sometimes

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Ben, you win the internet today for your honest response. It's sad how refreshed I feel when I see someone who gives such a straight-forward, honest answer.

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Comprof

Some of us actually know that it takes decades to develop safe and effective vaccines. These rushed experimental vaccines don’t work. They are however very good at weakening immunity and they randomly kill, much like Covid does. Every single person I know who has become infected with Covid is vaccinated.

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Also, roughly 95% of us are at no risk from COVID, and the tiny number of people who die from it are almost always very old and sick with other conditions.

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That’s true, but Covid has randomly killed some healthy people. Ironically, so does the rushed, experimental “vaccine”.

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The vaccines have been conclusively linked to death by heart damage. It's no longer under scientific debate that the mRNA side effects are potentially lethal.

I work with a major pharmaceutical company with their legal compliance and can tell you that if they used the same public messaging as the mRNA shots, they'd be sued for enormous amounts and their drugs would be pulled. It doesn't matter how rare the side effects are. If you advertise a treatment as "safe" when death is a side effect, that's massively illegal.

Also, about 40% of women reported significant changes to their menstrual cycles post vaccination, with no explanation to this day. I was told "this is the most studied vaccine in history" despite not a single long term study, and to this day they don't know how it's causing menstrual problems.

The mRNA shot totally failed to prevent either infection or transmission. Before 2020 the medical community called that "vaccine failure." Post 2020, they changed the definition of "vaccine" so they can keep lying about the efficacy of the 50 billion dollar money shots.

The doctor in my family absolutely refuses to discuss any of this. She knows damn well.

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But how many vaccinated people have not gotten Covid, and how does that compare to how many non-vaccinated people have not gotten it? I'm not being argumentative; I want to know, and I can't seem to find any reliable data. (For the record, I contracted Covid in October 2020, before any vaccine was widely available. I'm now two-dose vaxxed and boosted, and I haven't come down with it again. How much of that is the vaccine, and how much is natural immunity, and how much is dumb luck? I don't know.)

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I got Covid in November 2020, never vaccinated, never reinfected.

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The monkey in my avatar is named Junior, and I met him in Costa Rica while totally ignoring our pompous health care professionals.

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Never vaxxed, never got COVID, spent the whole pandemic travelling. Let me tell you, empty airports are amazing.

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AlabamaSlamma

If you got Covid then the science says you should have Acquired Immunity which everyone else in the world but me misleadingly calls Natural Immunity. The only people who have Natural Immunity are children

As for the data, governments have not collected it. You might wonder why.

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It's easy to call it natural immunity because we come by it naturally, ie via nature and not a lab-created shot in the arm. Not everyone is an immunologist, but we all pretty much know what someone means when they say 'natural immunity'

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Is there some reason I can’t edit the auto-errors in my comment.

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Common Sense. Now that my comment has been corrected - after the 3rd attempt - please delete this comment.

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Alabama -

Check out the Steve Kirsch substack for data on covid

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Please don't feed the troll.

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Don’t respond to Comprof it’s a waste of a post.

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R T did your microwave ding? I think your hot-pocket is ready

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Not hungry yet but thank you for thinking of me😜

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"The US with it’s number 1 status as he most infected as well as having the most fatalities during the pandemic is testament to the fact that personal autonomy and hubris spread the virus"

No, it's a testament to the fact that every part of the world used different standards and techniques for monitoring and tracking cases. The USA was the most aggressive at collecting that data, and thus has the highest numbers.

I've seen no evidence showing the vaccine saved "millions." I have seen plenty of evidence that the lockdowns destroyed hundreds of millions of lives.

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Exactly what did we expect when governments locked down their healthy populations. Nothing was scientific it was a matter of control. I think we have all gone over the edge and I’m wondering if we can come back from all this

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My personal belief is that it will get much worse, but a better future awaits on the other side.

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"Your natural immunity nonsense is bogus. Without the vaccines millions more would have died."

Come on now, you talk about pseudoscience and then say this. Are you claiming natural immunity isn't a thing?

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As I vaguely understand it (my virology Ph.D is from social Media U), like vaccines, natural immunity wears off.

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Ah yes, the usual "do the research" response, coupled with snark and condescension. You must think that gives you more credibility than citing whatever sources you use to form the basis of your opinions. If one makes a claim, it's typically the responsibility of that person to defend it with data/sources not those who challenge it.

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Wow, hatred and an invitation to kill myself without a bit of substantive information to back it up.

You should be banned from this platform. This is not a place where it's ok to tell people to kill themselves because you feel threatened at being called out.

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RT

There is no evidence that these “vaccines” have saved even one life.

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RT - your comparison of the 'vaccine argument' with the US covid stats is a non-sequiter. Most of the covid deaths are after the vax, and many of the deaths are among the vaxxed.

'Millions more would have died' is pseudo-fact.

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Well said!

RT let's see some peer-reviewed research demonstrating the efficacy of lockdown policies and the vaccines.

Everything I've seen thus far has said they were an unprecedented disaster.

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Invoking Trump in a conversation where he is totally irrelevant is a symptom of insanity.

You are mentally ill. Get help.

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Thank you for revealing the Trump Derangement Syndrome. Now we know that you were lying from the outset, and in denial about your mental illness.

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Aww Trump U. So original. Boy did you put me in my place, right cupcake?

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I don't see the connection, please explain

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Please don't feed the troll.

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(Banned)Oct 11, 2022·edited Oct 11, 2022

It's clear.

"My body, my choice"

You don't want a fetus is your body. Ok.

You don't to have to take a vaccine. Ok.

You want to kill yourself. Ok.

Many have made the "my body, my choice" argument re: vaccine. You probably have as well.

The connection is clear.

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There are a millions things that I want to decide for myself. That doesn’t mean I support government sponsored suicide

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People on the far right, like you, can be nearly as hypocritical as the insane left. Comprof has a point. You don't want government involved in your decisions? Fine. Now the government allows people to off themselves by independently practicing practitioners - and you want the government to stop it? I'm strongly against liberal euthanasia laws in Canada - but your hypocrisy is something to behold.

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GSAT -

Not sure that thinking easy government suicide is a sad thing equates to wanting the government to stop it. Maybe swinging to the extreme opposite of others' comments is your mind playing tricks on you

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GSAT - assuming or assigning people into buckets usually does not work out well. What is far right to you? Independent thought? Free speech? Following the constitution? Limited government? Am I to assume you are on the opposite side of these? I wouldn’t because that is a foolish thing to do now isn’t it. Being against government sponsored euthanasia doesn’t mean I am “far right” nor does it make me a hypocrite. But you know that don’t you GSAT.

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Funny. People rant against govenment support for some things....but not for others. While claiming only one side wants to "control" people.

If you're pro-choice, should have no problem with this.

If you didn't want to take a vaccine during a pandemic, you should have no problem with this.

They pay taxes, too. Their body, their choice.

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“People rant against government support for some things…..but not for others.”

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LOL yeah sometimes.

You are asserting that one must either support government doing 100% of things OR 0% of things in order to stay consistent.

Dumbest thing I’ve read this week. Delete your account.

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Hardly funny or odd that people like the government to do it’s constitutional duties. And when it get’s outside of it’s lanes it is called out. How is that funny?

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Comprof

What’s clear is that you are too simple minded to teach.

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Abortion involves another body. Vaccination only involves MY body.

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(Banned)Oct 11, 2022·edited Oct 11, 2022

In your opinion, it does. Some people think it's life the moment of conception, some think you have more time.

Which is probably why we don't put conception dates on tombstones.

Anyway, if it's "my body, my choice" re: vaccines. You should have ZERO problem with this story, as long as the people are over 18....so, which is it?

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I'm also a Catholic so I have a huge problem with this story.

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There's a difference between accepting the fact that some people choose suicide, and deciding not to jail or institutionalize those who try and fail, and having the Government kill people! The former can be a "my body my choice" issue, but the latter case isn't.

(Just for the record, I'm not a fan of encouraging or promoting suicide, even if a person does it on his own.)

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I don't have a problem with people deciding to commit suicide. I have a HUGE problem with the government being involved on any level.

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I DO have a problem with people deciding to commit suicide!! If I could be there and give them the love and friendship and hope and most of all, reason to live that they need, I would! I pray for the desolate every day, that SOMEONE be that person for them! <3

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The Suicide Industrial Complex

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Well....one thing at a time.

Are you against the Government killing people or just certain types of people (i.e. criminals)?

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Certainly, there are some criminals who deserve death! I'm only uneasy with that because the Government can and has made mistakes.

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Ok, well - that refreshing, most capital punishment supporters think the system is infallible.

So, you're actually NOT against the Government killing people.

Would you be against a government using tax dollars to subsidize, offer tax credits, etc. for PRIVATE clinics to do ending life procedures?

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As long as we have the 2nd amendment I say let criminals take their chances. Live by the sword, die by the sword

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Joan Cowie, suffering from Guilain-Barre syndrome… article doesn’t mention that this syndrome frequently accompanies vaccination

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Guillan-Barre syndrome is a side effect listed in the vax info from the pharma companies

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And I only know about this because I met someone paralyzed to the eyebrows from it after vaccination. (Literally.)

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Comp - that comparison falls flat

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(Banned)Oct 11, 2022·edited Oct 11, 2022

Nope. Perfect comparison. Not discussing end results/end states. Discussing process.

My body, my choice." Right?

So...

Over 18, does one have the right to chose to inject/not inject something into their body.

Yes or No?

If you don't have an answer, then you don't have an answer.

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That's such an incredibly stunning statement of imbicility I'm surprised you have the capacity to form whole sentences.

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(Banned)Oct 11, 2022·edited Oct 11, 2022

Not really. As evidenced by your inability to provide any cogent response other than insults.

So, I'll give you another shot.

If you used "My body, my choice" as a justification for being anti-vax (which I have no problem with) then you should have ZERO problem with people over 18 choosing to end their lives. Unless, your only complaint is gov't funding/involvement...but then you're still in another quandary, right around the corner, right?

So...are you a hypocrite or just simply too imbecilic to answer?

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Are you talking about sane adults here, my body my choice? Because that’s one thing, if you are lumping mentally ill, or minors in the conversation that’s another thing.

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Comp - I think you know that my body my choice in reference to vax mandates was throwing the leftists logic back at them. You’re creating a straw man with that equivalence

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Interesting you would think either connect. But.....

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Yeah, you would, wouldn't you?

Too bad all the anti-vax people decided to go with "My body, my choice." But....

Oh, well. Don't really care either way. Get vaccinated or not. If Covid kills you/killed people who resisted vaccines - good. If people who didn't get vaccinated lived perfectly fine - good.

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Kevin Durant

I concur, however booster should be pluralized. As Dr. Tam says in her new ad “keep your vaccinations up to date”. She doesn’t say how many shots one should take , but clearly 3 is not enough. Dr. Tam is the genius who told us in the spring of 2020 that Covid could not be spread from human to human. She is the best choice to be leading the ad campaign to make everyone vulnerable.

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Why was Kevin Durant’s excellent suggestion that Comprof take the booster deleted? Does this site think Kevin was telling Comprof to kill himself?

I realize this site is run by leftists, but please resist the leftist impulse to censor. It is inexcusable.

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Kevin's comments couldn't possibly have sunk below the level of Comprof's, JustMe or the comically insane Bloviating Ignoramus's. And yet they're left up and Kevin's deleted? And the difference is that Kevin's are both wise and funny, albeit often wrapped in vicious satire or sarcasm. While those mentioned are simply demented rants. Albeit comical in their dementia.

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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh.

Cry to Bari Weiss you stupid sniveling coward Nazi bitch.

Now shut the fuck up and don't embarrass yourself more than you already have.

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I've seen that message when I deleted comments myself. I did so thinking they were in poor taste or made in haste. It's unlikely this was any kind of censorship.

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Deleting comments is per se censorship. Kevin didn’t threaten Comprof so there is no justification for deleting his comment.

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The budgetary argument on behalf of the Canadian government is absurd. $100,000,000 is chump change to a developed country’s budget. Otherwise I have mixed feelings about this.

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But every loonie helps!

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They should have Trudeau’s face on the loonie instead of a duck

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It’s ironic that in the west with unprecedented material comforts, all the supposed focus on mental health , therapists and anti depression drugs , suicide and depression keep increasing.

Maybe a culture that tells people they are basically a virus destroying the planet instead of you are created in the image of God , affects peoples desire to live.

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I think it is more the lack of wholesome community and the increasingly reliance on isolating devices. The social media "connecting the world" is largely spreading mental and emotional health problems instead.

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The false promise of the internet making us more connected is one of the biggest lies of our era.

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We’re connecting here. Just because some use tech for evil doesn’t make the tech itself evil

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Are we really? I don't even know your real name.

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Kate

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Nice to meet You, Ma'am.

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The problem is that too many younger people grew up with the mentality that people they encounter online are just video game characters, not real human beings. A tool for connecting with other humans is a disaster in the hands of people who have no sense of humanity.

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Celia -

I do think that relating online is a learning curve. There’s no face, no body language, no tone or voice inflection. Hence the creation of emojis.

I read several blogs/news sites but this is the 1st I’ve ever commented on, or wanted to, for that matter.

So at 69 yrs of age, and an English Lit major, I’m figuring out how to comment with others. It’s a bit like responding to emails, which can be badly misunderstood. I think part of that can be down to the reader not just the writer.

But since online communication is the younger generation’s native tongue I would think they’d be better at it than older folks. I mean, supposedly younger people are the tech geniuses, right lol😁

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TY for Your reply.

The Gen Alphas, a lotta them, are more comfortable connecting with people over the tech than in person. They also suffer higher rates of depression, anxiety, and suicide.

I don't think that's a coincidence. Do You?

You also have the problem than anybody can "say" anything about anything (including themselves). There will always be somebody out there who will believe anything.

As a medium to propagate deceptions? Perfect. As a medium to connect to who people are? Like You "said," Kate, depends on the reader and writer, right. Mainly on the honesty of the writer. Who's good at that?

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I think that this is the crux of this issue. People do not feel that they have any intrinsic worth, and that there is no redemption in suffering.

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Louder for the people in the back! It’s a reoccurring theme imo that lack of faith, religion, and G-d is not turning out well for anyone.

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Franco, I think you’ve hit on the conundrum of modernity. From the evolutionary perspective, what’s happened is that humans have become intelligent enough to become aware of the physical basis of life; we’re just an evolved species in an accidental biosphere. When Nietzsche said God is dead, he wasn’t celebrating a liberating insight, he was just pointing out that humans are utterly alone. This nihilism is pervading our increasing secular world. You have to wonder if we’ve reached some sort of non-adaptive tipping point.

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Makes you wonder if some sort of belief is necessary for our psychological well-being, and that's why religions exist. (And I say this being an agnostic myself.)

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That’s what I’m thinking. It’s why wokeism feels like a sort of unstructured residual religious impulse of secular society. As the traditional religion cultural norms disintegrate they are replaced by smaller group divisions of various moral impulses with very strong moralistic enforcement.

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Yes, wokeism, and radicalism in general, come across to me very much as religions. Unfortunately they come out as gnostic religions, with the believers seeing themselves in the role of the Elect, and everyone else is damned.

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The Climate Crazies are very much a faith-based community, no different than Catholics, Muslims, Mormons, Scientologists, Orthodox Jews, JWs, etc