“You write in your book that a handful of factors are the harbingers of end times or societal crisis, one of which is something you call “elite overproduction.” What is that?”
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I stopped reading here and bought all of this guy’s books. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
“The elites” are also known as parasites. They are all Democrats.…
“You write in your book that a handful of factors are the harbingers of end times or societal crisis, one of which is something you call “elite overproduction.” What is that?”
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I stopped reading here and bought all of this guy’s books. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
“The elites” are also known as parasites. They are all Democrats. Interference class bureaucrats and administrators. They do not contribute to society and, given their training, you wouldn’t expect them to.
I should have stopped after that paragraph. Your description of the elites as parasites is very apt, we have to rid ourselves of this garbage, the leeches are sucking us dry.
The "elites" ARE society. Just ask any one of them, and they will tell you that straight out. There is no debate for them. There is no dynamism in society other than what they, the elites, inject.
“The guy yelling at the rapists is just as bad as the rapists because yelling and rape are both bad. Listen to me. I have obtained a higher knowledge, a gnosis, above all of these petty tribal disputes. I am the synthesis that has emerged from the thesis and antithesis.”
You can't get to right or wrong unless you understand the power dynamics governing the generation of that which proports to be fact. Assumptions masquerading as facts are just assumptions gilt to look shiny so one doesn't look to seriously beyond the glitter.
You 100% do not need to understand the power dynamics to arrive at the truth. It is, however, useful at times to examine power dynamics if you want to make a first blush assessment of how likely it is that you are looking at truth or generated truth AKA lies.
If only we had some way of knowing the political orientation of the people who have seized the means of truth production we would have quite a handy shortcut…..
In terms of being able to look beyond the glitter, my aggressive and often crude approach has led you to believe that I am therefore incorrect.
(I’m actually pretty sure you know I am right and you are just playing defense on behalf of a lifetime of horseshit peddled)
Importantly, elite overproduction results in an increase in gaming the system and a breakdown in cooperation. Cooperation is a dynamic that requires creativity, open-mindedness, curiosity to motivate cooperation. These are the antitheses to breaking the rules for self-aggrandizement.
They certainly are not all Democrats. Trump, Abbott, DeSantis, and above all Mitch McConnell, are multimillion- to billionaire elites who would hit you if you called them a Democrat. Ditto all their funders: the Kochs, Mercers, deVos, Ulines, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, the CEOs of Big Oil, Ag, Chemical, and other Corporate, and the hotshots in the Club for Growth, NRA, and Federalist Society. Not a Dem among them. They control the levers of power as much as the Democrats do.
> They control the levers of power as much as the Democrats do.
One one side...
Elon Musk has a lever of power in big tech.
On the other side...
Mark Zuckerburg holds a lever of power.
Satya Nadella holds a lever of power.
Marc Benioff holds a lever of power.
Sundar Pichai holds a lever of power.
Zhang Yiming holds a lever of power.
Sam Altman holds a lever of power.
Jeff Bezos holds a lever of power.
Do not pretend these sides are of equal strength. It's a logical fallacy, and frankly rather unbecoming. If you truly want to debate it, acknowledge that left-leaning people increasingly control big tech, and make arguments about how that's OK/good for the world/etc.
I could do a similar analysis for finance (go look at BlackRock/Vanguard), education, entertainment/media, etc. The point is, for every right-leaning elite, you will find 5-10 left-leaning elites with similar positions.
I'm not remotely embarrassed, because my argument is bulletproof. The notion that Democrats control 95 percent of America is propaganda, not fact, and here's why:
The Supreme Court is Republican. Much of the current federal judiciary was chosen by the Republican Federalist Society, not the more centrist/liberal/Democratic American Bar Association. Half of Congress is Republican. The most powerful congressional leader in America, Mitch McConnell, is Republican. The Speaker of the House is lightweight-but-still-in-charge Republican Kevin McCarthy. The most powerful politician in America is Republican Donald Trump, who ran the White House until three years ago. More than half of state governors--26 vs. 24--are Republican:
Eighteen of America's biggest lobbying organizations--i.e., the ones who buy and sell politicians--are Republican, with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce as lead dog:
Most private funders of politicians are billionaire Republicans. Koch, deVos, Mercer, Griffith, Ulein, Epstein, a dozen more. They gave four times as much money to Republican PACs as they did Democratic PACs, so when they say "jump," politicians say, "How high, bawse?" You think multi-trillion-dollars tax cuts came from BLM and antifa supporters?
Wall Street bankers would laugh you out of the boardroom at the notion they're liberals or Democrats. Ditto most of the CEOs of Big Corporate, Fortune 500, or the multi-trillion-dollar military industrial complex. They're adopting DEI statements to avoid noisy public protests, not because they believe any of it. Proof? They claim women are equal in the corporate suite, too, and yet a, um, mighty 10 percent of Fortune 500 CEOs are female:
Silicon Valley might be majority Democrat, but then again, tech billionaires Elon Musk and Peter Thiel are Republican. Gates and Bezos aren't the only tech money in town:
Democrats certainly control important sectors of the culture, including academia and media, plus the White House since 2020, explaining why DEI and other happy-face bullshit gets more exposure than it deserves. But there's no way you can argue with a straight face that Democrats control 95 percent of America. They only wish they did.
Who *really* controls America? Big Money.
Republicans and Democrats control different sectors of America, splitting the take 50-50. But they all march to the tune of Big Corporate and Big Money. Reps and Dems are their front men, using MAGA, Woke, and other Culture War red meat to camouflage their real masters, who are not We the People but We the Greedy.
Me, embarrassed to argue actual facts? Not a chance.
Okay how about we agree that universities might lean slightly left but the elections in DC Silicon Valley and Manhattan, and any survey data recording partisan orientation, have been faked by Halliburton and Charlton Heston for the purpose of propaganda. A fair compromise.
In further pursuit of compromise I will admit that journalism and publishing is right-wing if you admit that Hollywood and entertainment is right-wing.
DeSantis is not rich. He made a little money from his book, and has a net worth just over $1mm. You can say a lot about DeSantis, but calling him a "multimillionaire elite" is totally inaccurate.
I'll take your word about his bank account because I don't have access. But he certainly is a political elite who dominates news cycles almost as much as Trump and Biden.
Well, he dominates news cycles because he's running for president and because the "reforms" he's enacting in Florida outrage so many people. That "the left" is after him is only a byproduct.
I listened to the interview. Elite overproduction is an interesting and important issue. But dismissing this as political (i.e. they are all democrats) misses the larger truth for a narrow political obsession. Fine. Have bad feelings about democrats, but when we (anyone) points fingers and assigns blame so broadly we don't do the hard work of reflecting on our own accountability. It's so so easy to see what others are doing wrong. Let's "man up" and look to ourselves.
Paula, if Kevin with the question mark actually answered you without calling you Satanic and a pervert, letting you go with just being obsessed - consider yourself important. You know you got his attention. Not that you should care, mind you.
While I appreciate your highly manipulative partisan smokescreen, you definitely are not going to fix this problem ever if you don’t address the aspects of Democrat policy that caused the elite overproduction.
Republicans are also at fault but that’s just because they have failed to stop Democrats and have often gone along with it. Richard Nixon creating the EPA is the first thing that comes to mind. I’m not looking up the history but I’m sure Republicans also went along with the psychotic notion that every single student has a human right to a $100,000 loan which they can spend at a Democrat Education Camp.
The person with the political obsession is you. You are obsessed with defending Democrat policy because you like it even though it has failed catastrophically just as Hayek’s Knowledge Problem predicts.
So, no, I will not be “manning up” and looking inward, instead of looking at Democrats, as you might prefer. Why? Because I am obviously right and the murderer is standing directly in front of us with a knife.
I totally see why you would zero in on Democrats' support for higher education as the main cause of elite overproduction. Frankly, as a former graduate students who has taught at 4-year universities (as well as elementary, middle, and high schools) I could easily be dismissed, I guess someone who has benefitted from these "elite playgrounds." But you might be surprised to know that I agree that there is a lot going wrong in higher education and some of it can definitely be chalked up to groupthink and the kind of arrogance that comes from making a living as an expert. But, and here's my question, what do you think should change in higher education? Should there be no support for it? Should it be abolished entirely? Or should it be totally free? (no loans) or totally reserved only for those who can afford it? I guess I'm really (genuinely) curious what you are fighting for. Regarding the EPA, I'm curious what it is about the EPA that you find so objectionable. Do you free there should be no regulatory agencies? Should corporations be self-regulating when it comes to the environment? You see I am obsessed, but not with defending Democratic policy (which is something that is too big and complicated to defend or condemn as a whole) but with the power of listening and conversation. I truly, truly am.When I ask what you are fighting for regarding higher education or the EPA, I am seriously looking to learn about things that I may have missed or see things from a new perspective. Speaking of which, have you listened to The Free Press podcast, "The Witch Trials of JK Rowling?" I ask because the reporter who put it together is someone who had her mind changed about some very profound, fundamental beliefs simply through ongoing conversation with someone who saw the world very differently from her. The focus of the podcast, really, is the whole problem of communicating with each other and it goes deeply into some very nuanced and fraught territory. Anyway, sorry for the very long response, but felt like I owed you a serious take on your comment.
Universities are not the only thing Democrats have done to cause the overproduction of elites. It should be said that by definition the modifier ‘overproduction’ means these people are not actually elite.
What would I do? The federal government should stop making and guaranteeing loans and grants to universities. If there’s anything necessary going on at these places then the states and endowments and corporations will step in.
I am aware that what I’m suggesting would destroy lives and collapse institutions. It would destroy all of the right lives and all of the right institutions.
Because of how much money is currently flowing into this sewer, the action I am suggesting would result in chaos and violence. The various and sundry *useless people* impacted by this action would become desperate and violent and they would need to be dealt with. Treat them like the Jan 6 people. Detain them without trial and charge them to the max.
What do I not like about the EPA? Well, everyone who works there is a dicksucker who hates the United States. So that’s one of the things I don’t like. They are a bunch of ineffectual shysters who make the world worse. So I’m opposed to that as well.
If you gave the EPA guns and tanks and sent them into the foreign countries that are actually polluting then maybe I would support it.
I voted for Trump twice, and would do so again, and I even don't think this is a Democrat vs Republican issue. It's a uniparty issue.
Biden didn't get us into two endless wars. Biden didn't manipulate public opinion into attacking Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11. I went over there and did my part in 07-08, but will full knowledge that this was a scam played on the American people. Yes, Biden is a shitbag but there are lots of others...GWB being pretty high on the list. And I voted for that turd twice also.
That's why I was willing to throw the monkey wrench at Washington in '16, and still am. Yes, we were purposely fucking things up, those that think like me.
I totally agree. I'm so tired of people pointing fingers and blaming someone else. Who I want to listen to is someone speaking truthfully, and rather than blaming and condemning someone else, comes up with a pathway out of the mess we are in. A peaceful revolution.
I've heard it said (am being a bit facetious) that the two major U.S. political parties are actually pretty much the same party. They obviously are AT the same party - one that few people actually work, that is to say few work the party socially, I mean the party with the party hats. Oh as an aside I just realized why American kids all have to have those dumb parties in school and at home. They are being acclimated to the stupidity of it all. In societies with royals, with royalty, parties are super exclusive. In America every kid is supposed have an equal chance - yeah right- to become king of the company or the corporation. So we learn very early in like to put on party hats, expect gifts, spoil the birthday kid with gifts, make lots of noise and look forward to
"Out Turn" at being the center of attentions, our turn at the wheel, that is of running a show.
In Canada it is the same with the growth of DEI, HR and PR departments in governments and large corporations.
Friends in management (private and public) constantly complain about these useless departments that actually reduce productivity by wasting other departments’ time and resources.
I also recommend that people seek out Ted Gioia and his theory of “Hot versus Cool” periods in culture and entertainment.
If all they did was waste time and reduce productivity, that would be fine. And that's what it seems like at first to people who already work there. They can complain and sigh and laugh. But they already have their jobs, they have an education, and they have a resume which gives them a leg up in finding a new job.
What they actually do is change recruiting and hiring policies instituting de jure racism. They make it increasingly difficult to find a new job, especially for kids fresh out of school. They make it extremely difficult for the best candidates to climb the corporate ladder and achieve success on their own merit.
Your friends in management complain about reducing productivity. Their kids complain about finding decent employment at all or ever reaching management positions.
I know, right? When I think of " woke leftists" I certainly think of Monsanto, P&G, Peter Thiel, the Koch Brothers, Wall Street, Oil & Gas CEOs, etc......you know, the "workin' class folks."
Apparently you're not aware that typing in all caps and adding four exclamation points (me, I always like to use an odd number) does not add to the efficacy of your argument.
Much easier to read. Still wrong though. Ever heard of Fox News? The New York Post? The Manhattan Institute? Josh Hawley's congressional staff? Ron DeSantis' campaign staff? Those folks are all elites too.
Wall Street is going hard into DEI. Large institutional investors will invest in a company specifically because of certian metrics (racial diversity, percent women in leadership, etc). They'll sometimes also throw in climate. Dunno if you want to call that "leftist" or not, but it's simply the reality of new "conscientious investing" practiced by most venture capital and mutual funds.
Dude, seriously... go look at some recent presentations by BlackRock or Vanguard and then come back and tell me Wall Street is somehow conservative.
Invest regularly. Stock market and real estate. Plenty of other options if you don't like companies that are "into diversity." (Whatever the hell that means, today.)
It is nowhere near the levels of the current hysteria. Wall Street is FAR from "woke."
Major oil and gas companies are purtting substantial income and personal capital into developing alternative energy, (i.e. "throwing in climate") is that "woke," too? Or is it looking ahead to the future to the next curve? So the idea of "concientous investing" really amounts to finding ways to make money while still being good stewards of the Earth and mitigate/reduce damage to society/social fabrics as much as possible.
Dude...seriously, I've already been through one Satanic Panic. This "eVerYthinG iS wOke" is getting old. It just sounds stupid now.
Personally, I would put as much as you can into water, cause we're running out of that. The portfolio that I personally manage is 95% of that, and it has been VERY, VERY profitable.
Wall Street has always been ideologically and action-oriented Conservative. All about corporate profits, tax breaks for the 1%, offshoring jobs, deregulation, reducing wages and exploiting illegal immigrant labor all to increase stock price/dividends, so give me a break.
> Invest regularly. Stock market and real estate. Plenty of other options if you don't like companies that are into diversity.
Don't be obtuse. You brought up "Wall Street". eg mutual funds/institutional investors. Of course you can personally design your own investment strategy. But 99% of people won't be picking stocks; they'll be in retirement accounts (or out of the market), and it's those retirement accounts and mutual funds which are investing in that strategy. Venture capital/angel investors, eg the companies that decide what startup[s get money, use these things. And they filtyer down to hiring practices.
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> Major oil and gas companies [...]
I'd actually agree with the left on climate, so I'm not going to debate that one. We *do* need to do something about the environment and moving into alternative energy sources.
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Dude...seriously, I've already been through one Satanic Panic. This "eVerYthinG iS wOke" is getting old. It just sounds stupid now.
"Dude". I've had 30 interviews in a row with terrible candidates because the company I worked for changed the recruiting company it worked with. I've sat at meetings about hiring a candidate and needed to *bite my tongue* while they replaced one of our technical skills interviews with a culture interview because HR said our programming interviews were biased towards Asian and male candidates. I don't work there any more, but the reality of investing strategies and how it effects hiring cannot be overstated.
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> Wall Street has always been ideologically and action-oriented Conservative. All about corporate profits, tax breaks for the 1%, offshoring jobs, deregulation, reducing wages and exploiting illegal immigrant labor all to increase stock price/dividends, so give me a break.
Stop living in 1990. Go look at WEF's plans. Go look at some recent videos from BlackRock and Vanguard. They *acknowledge* that ESG will make less money, but are doing it for a social agenda.
No, actually someone else brought up Wall Street when they said "Leftists are controlled by Wall Steet." Which we all should know what that means ;)
I simply responded asking for clarification. So, first off, get your facts straight.
Everything I stated are still the ultimate goals of Wall Street in the 80s and now.
Yeah, yeah, I get it "eVeRYthiNG iS wOKe!"
ESG is/was a blip on the radar. It's on it's way out and it was never a really big thing to begin with anyway. Had a short run/interests, but at the end of the day, it'll wind up being a miniscule fraction of a funds total portfolio. Everyone needs to just go change their panties.
Yeah, Blackrock gave a nice presentation, but what are they REALLY doing? Buying up every home/real estate they can get their hands on, so they can turn everyone in the U.S. into perpetual tenants.
Personally, my 401k, retirement portfolios, etc. are looking great. So, whatever Vanguard, Fidelity and TIAA-CREF are doing, I'm all for it.
Please share your former company with the rest of us, so we can all be up to speed on who to boycott....then sue for loss of principal due to said boycott.
It means every opinion and thought YOU have starts from the likes of Larry Fink. He decides what the new narrative is. YOU follow like the sheeple you are.
CEO of BlackRock. Manages $9,000,000,000,000 in assets. Far leftist radical. One of key people behind ESG. Openly admits to raising housing prices to force people into renting. Openly admits using his power to force people to his beliefs by deplatforming (cutting off resources to all banking for example) and other means.
"The leftists are controlled by Wall Street!" - Steven N.
Just say "The Jews," Steven.
Seriously, you're not fooling anyone - at least not me.
Lol! You're complaining about raising housing prices and forcing people into renting?! That's the free-market, trickle-down economy that is the best in world. Increases the share price and increases dividends, which causes people to take that income and open businesses and employ you, which will make YOU rich, Steven.
Prices for a house too high? Oh, well. Work harder, Steven. Get another job, etc.
If you don't like it, then take your ass to some 3rd world country and see how good it is there. Bet you'll be grateful then!!
All of the elites are Republicans. This is what holds people back. Black women go into a hospital in Chicago run by White Republicans and they die in childbirth because the White Republicans who work at Chicago hospitals reject them.
The amazing thing is that all of these White Republicans have infiltrated racially pure Black Democrat neighborhoods. How did they do that??? You can’t escape the WHITE REPUBLICAN INFILTRATORS!!!!
Lol. I didn't say they're "all Republicans," dummy. I just said "they're not all Democrats" which was YOUR moronic smooth-brain, mouth-breather proposition/argument. There are wealthy elites on both sides of the aisle.
Yes, KevinDurant.....the "elites" in the U.S. are all Democrats. Which is explains why GOP candidates struggle so mightily for PAC money, etc.
What a smart observation.
Oh....so now all Obstetricians are "leftists," too? Black women die at higher rates during childbirth everywhere, KevinDurant. Not just Chicago ;) Probably for the same reason African-Americans were not really caught up in the opioid crisis as much as white patients.
Already told you, smooth-brain. Higher rate of death, everywhere - not just "black neighborhoods."
Lol. I'm sure you have evidence/data to back that up your claim of political affiliation/voting? Or is this some more of your "thought-provoking" BS you habitually pull out of your ass?
How? He can’t climb stairs, walk and chew gum. This guy is a disaster and his brainless VP.
Koch Brother? Last time I looked, the entire government is run by brainless democrats. Democrats have lied about everything! They are the one’s that have been dividing the nation. DEI, Trans, you name it. Pedophiles, defund the police, Portland, Seattle, LA. BLM. These are the ones. Lying FBI, CIA, DOJ, MSM. This guy is right. Time to take the people down or maybe a 100 mile wide asteroid. I don’t see another to cleanse this earth.
“You write in your book that a handful of factors are the harbingers of end times or societal crisis, one of which is something you call “elite overproduction.” What is that?”
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I stopped reading here and bought all of this guy’s books. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
“The elites” are also known as parasites. They are all Democrats. Interference class bureaucrats and administrators. They do not contribute to society and, given their training, you wouldn’t expect them to.
I should have stopped after that paragraph. Your description of the elites as parasites is very apt, we have to rid ourselves of this garbage, the leeches are sucking us dry.
Excuse me, Kevin; you're making a grave error.
The "elites" ARE society. Just ask any one of them, and they will tell you that straight out. There is no debate for them. There is no dynamism in society other than what they, the elites, inject.
I did not mean to gloss over the fact that they are self-esteeming narcissistic abusers and megalomaniacs.
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I did not mean to gloss over the fact that your screeds put you right there alongside them, just with a different headline and takeaway. 🦉
“The guy yelling at the rapists is just as bad as the rapists because yelling and rape are both bad. Listen to me. I have obtained a higher knowledge, a gnosis, above all of these petty tribal disputes. I am the synthesis that has emerged from the thesis and antithesis.”
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"I am the Alpha and the Omega. I am the bringer of Death . . ."
As I recall my quantum mechanics, that combination usually self-destructs. 🧑🔬
That is a good analogy if you do not believe in right and wrong and you just believe in opposing power dynamics.
You can't get to right or wrong unless you understand the power dynamics governing the generation of that which proports to be fact. Assumptions masquerading as facts are just assumptions gilt to look shiny so one doesn't look to seriously beyond the glitter.
You 100% do not need to understand the power dynamics to arrive at the truth. It is, however, useful at times to examine power dynamics if you want to make a first blush assessment of how likely it is that you are looking at truth or generated truth AKA lies.
If only we had some way of knowing the political orientation of the people who have seized the means of truth production we would have quite a handy shortcut…..
In terms of being able to look beyond the glitter, my aggressive and often crude approach has led you to believe that I am therefore incorrect.
(I’m actually pretty sure you know I am right and you are just playing defense on behalf of a lifetime of horseshit peddled)
Oh, Kevin...You care...How comforting it is to know that.
Actually, your aggressive and often crude approach gets in the way of the occasional time you actually trip over something correct.
Importantly, elite overproduction results in an increase in gaming the system and a breakdown in cooperation. Cooperation is a dynamic that requires creativity, open-mindedness, curiosity to motivate cooperation. These are the antitheses to breaking the rules for self-aggrandizement.
They certainly are not all Democrats. Trump, Abbott, DeSantis, and above all Mitch McConnell, are multimillion- to billionaire elites who would hit you if you called them a Democrat. Ditto all their funders: the Kochs, Mercers, deVos, Ulines, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, the CEOs of Big Oil, Ag, Chemical, and other Corporate, and the hotshots in the Club for Growth, NRA, and Federalist Society. Not a Dem among them. They control the levers of power as much as the Democrats do.
> They control the levers of power as much as the Democrats do.
One one side...
Elon Musk has a lever of power in big tech.
On the other side...
Mark Zuckerburg holds a lever of power.
Satya Nadella holds a lever of power.
Marc Benioff holds a lever of power.
Sundar Pichai holds a lever of power.
Zhang Yiming holds a lever of power.
Sam Altman holds a lever of power.
Jeff Bezos holds a lever of power.
Do not pretend these sides are of equal strength. It's a logical fallacy, and frankly rather unbecoming. If you truly want to debate it, acknowledge that left-leaning people increasingly control big tech, and make arguments about how that's OK/good for the world/etc.
I could do a similar analysis for finance (go look at BlackRock/Vanguard), education, entertainment/media, etc. The point is, for every right-leaning elite, you will find 5-10 left-leaning elites with similar positions.
Washington DC is 95% Democrat as is Silicon Valley and Wall Street. Every single publicly traded company is adopting DEI and ESG.
What you just did is like saying that universities aren’t left-wing because Hillsdale exists. You should feel a little embarrassed, frankly.
This is not an argument, Shane.
I'm not remotely embarrassed, because my argument is bulletproof. The notion that Democrats control 95 percent of America is propaganda, not fact, and here's why:
The Supreme Court is Republican. Much of the current federal judiciary was chosen by the Republican Federalist Society, not the more centrist/liberal/Democratic American Bar Association. Half of Congress is Republican. The most powerful congressional leader in America, Mitch McConnell, is Republican. The Speaker of the House is lightweight-but-still-in-charge Republican Kevin McCarthy. The most powerful politician in America is Republican Donald Trump, who ran the White House until three years ago. More than half of state governors--26 vs. 24--are Republican:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_governors
Eighteen of America's biggest lobbying organizations--i.e., the ones who buy and sell politicians--are Republican, with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce as lead dog:
https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-spenders?cycle=2023.
Most private funders of politicians are billionaire Republicans. Koch, deVos, Mercer, Griffith, Ulein, Epstein, a dozen more. They gave four times as much money to Republican PACs as they did Democratic PACs, so when they say "jump," politicians say, "How high, bawse?" You think multi-trillion-dollars tax cuts came from BLM and antifa supporters?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/article/meet-the-billionaires-funding-the-battle-for-control-of-the-house-of-representatives/?sh=2f21cefa24c9
Wall Street bankers would laugh you out of the boardroom at the notion they're liberals or Democrats. Ditto most of the CEOs of Big Corporate, Fortune 500, or the multi-trillion-dollar military industrial complex. They're adopting DEI statements to avoid noisy public protests, not because they believe any of it. Proof? They claim women are equal in the corporate suite, too, and yet a, um, mighty 10 percent of Fortune 500 CEOs are female:
https://fortune.com/2023/06/05/fortune-500-companies-2023-women-10-percent/
Silicon Valley might be majority Democrat, but then again, tech billionaires Elon Musk and Peter Thiel are Republican. Gates and Bezos aren't the only tech money in town:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/741762/the-richest-people-in-the-us-tech-industry/
Democrats certainly control important sectors of the culture, including academia and media, plus the White House since 2020, explaining why DEI and other happy-face bullshit gets more exposure than it deserves. But there's no way you can argue with a straight face that Democrats control 95 percent of America. They only wish they did.
Who *really* controls America? Big Money.
Republicans and Democrats control different sectors of America, splitting the take 50-50. But they all march to the tune of Big Corporate and Big Money. Reps and Dems are their front men, using MAGA, Woke, and other Culture War red meat to camouflage their real masters, who are not We the People but We the Greedy.
Me, embarrassed to argue actual facts? Not a chance.
Okay how about we agree that universities might lean slightly left but the elections in DC Silicon Valley and Manhattan, and any survey data recording partisan orientation, have been faked by Halliburton and Charlton Heston for the purpose of propaganda. A fair compromise.
In further pursuit of compromise I will admit that journalism and publishing is right-wing if you admit that Hollywood and entertainment is right-wing.
A great day for the truth!!!
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Deal! It's too hot here in Phoenix to argue, I'm wilting like the daisy I am. Damn dirty apes all to hell :-)
DeSantis is not rich. He made a little money from his book, and has a net worth just over $1mm. You can say a lot about DeSantis, but calling him a "multimillionaire elite" is totally inaccurate.
1 mil that is no were near rich who bankrolls him
I'll take your word about his bank account because I don't have access. But he certainly is a political elite who dominates news cycles almost as much as Trump and Biden.
He dominates news cycles because the left is after him.
Well, he dominates news cycles because he's running for president and because the "reforms" he's enacting in Florida outrage so many people. That "the left" is after him is only a byproduct.
So many people outside of Florida. (Some in Florida too)
I listened to the interview. Elite overproduction is an interesting and important issue. But dismissing this as political (i.e. they are all democrats) misses the larger truth for a narrow political obsession. Fine. Have bad feelings about democrats, but when we (anyone) points fingers and assigns blame so broadly we don't do the hard work of reflecting on our own accountability. It's so so easy to see what others are doing wrong. Let's "man up" and look to ourselves.
Paula, if Kevin with the question mark actually answered you without calling you Satanic and a pervert, letting you go with just being obsessed - consider yourself important. You know you got his attention. Not that you should care, mind you.
lol
You're right btw..
And then do what? The Democrats will not hesitate to eat us alive if we take our eye off the ball to self reflect.
Hi Paula,
While I appreciate your highly manipulative partisan smokescreen, you definitely are not going to fix this problem ever if you don’t address the aspects of Democrat policy that caused the elite overproduction.
Republicans are also at fault but that’s just because they have failed to stop Democrats and have often gone along with it. Richard Nixon creating the EPA is the first thing that comes to mind. I’m not looking up the history but I’m sure Republicans also went along with the psychotic notion that every single student has a human right to a $100,000 loan which they can spend at a Democrat Education Camp.
The person with the political obsession is you. You are obsessed with defending Democrat policy because you like it even though it has failed catastrophically just as Hayek’s Knowledge Problem predicts.
So, no, I will not be “manning up” and looking inward, instead of looking at Democrats, as you might prefer. Why? Because I am obviously right and the murderer is standing directly in front of us with a knife.
Kevin,
I totally see why you would zero in on Democrats' support for higher education as the main cause of elite overproduction. Frankly, as a former graduate students who has taught at 4-year universities (as well as elementary, middle, and high schools) I could easily be dismissed, I guess someone who has benefitted from these "elite playgrounds." But you might be surprised to know that I agree that there is a lot going wrong in higher education and some of it can definitely be chalked up to groupthink and the kind of arrogance that comes from making a living as an expert. But, and here's my question, what do you think should change in higher education? Should there be no support for it? Should it be abolished entirely? Or should it be totally free? (no loans) or totally reserved only for those who can afford it? I guess I'm really (genuinely) curious what you are fighting for. Regarding the EPA, I'm curious what it is about the EPA that you find so objectionable. Do you free there should be no regulatory agencies? Should corporations be self-regulating when it comes to the environment? You see I am obsessed, but not with defending Democratic policy (which is something that is too big and complicated to defend or condemn as a whole) but with the power of listening and conversation. I truly, truly am.When I ask what you are fighting for regarding higher education or the EPA, I am seriously looking to learn about things that I may have missed or see things from a new perspective. Speaking of which, have you listened to The Free Press podcast, "The Witch Trials of JK Rowling?" I ask because the reporter who put it together is someone who had her mind changed about some very profound, fundamental beliefs simply through ongoing conversation with someone who saw the world very differently from her. The focus of the podcast, really, is the whole problem of communicating with each other and it goes deeply into some very nuanced and fraught territory. Anyway, sorry for the very long response, but felt like I owed you a serious take on your comment.
Universities are not the only thing Democrats have done to cause the overproduction of elites. It should be said that by definition the modifier ‘overproduction’ means these people are not actually elite.
What would I do? The federal government should stop making and guaranteeing loans and grants to universities. If there’s anything necessary going on at these places then the states and endowments and corporations will step in.
I am aware that what I’m suggesting would destroy lives and collapse institutions. It would destroy all of the right lives and all of the right institutions.
Because of how much money is currently flowing into this sewer, the action I am suggesting would result in chaos and violence. The various and sundry *useless people* impacted by this action would become desperate and violent and they would need to be dealt with. Treat them like the Jan 6 people. Detain them without trial and charge them to the max.
What do I not like about the EPA? Well, everyone who works there is a dicksucker who hates the United States. So that’s one of the things I don’t like. They are a bunch of ineffectual shysters who make the world worse. So I’m opposed to that as well.
If you gave the EPA guns and tanks and sent them into the foreign countries that are actually polluting then maybe I would support it.
BTW: I'm addressing you as "Kevin" for simplicity's sake. I live among Warriors fans :)
At your best today Kevin, vote the scraps out of power.
I voted for Trump twice, and would do so again, and I even don't think this is a Democrat vs Republican issue. It's a uniparty issue.
Biden didn't get us into two endless wars. Biden didn't manipulate public opinion into attacking Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11. I went over there and did my part in 07-08, but will full knowledge that this was a scam played on the American people. Yes, Biden is a shitbag but there are lots of others...GWB being pretty high on the list. And I voted for that turd twice also.
That's why I was willing to throw the monkey wrench at Washington in '16, and still am. Yes, we were purposely fucking things up, those that think like me.
I totally agree. I'm so tired of people pointing fingers and blaming someone else. Who I want to listen to is someone speaking truthfully, and rather than blaming and condemning someone else, comes up with a pathway out of the mess we are in. A peaceful revolution.
I've heard it said (am being a bit facetious) that the two major U.S. political parties are actually pretty much the same party. They obviously are AT the same party - one that few people actually work, that is to say few work the party socially, I mean the party with the party hats. Oh as an aside I just realized why American kids all have to have those dumb parties in school and at home. They are being acclimated to the stupidity of it all. In societies with royals, with royalty, parties are super exclusive. In America every kid is supposed have an equal chance - yeah right- to become king of the company or the corporation. So we learn very early in like to put on party hats, expect gifts, spoil the birthday kid with gifts, make lots of noise and look forward to
"Out Turn" at being the center of attentions, our turn at the wheel, that is of running a show.
😂😂😂that’s about the correct description of America!
Interesting take...A bit cynical, wouldn't you say?
In Canada it is the same with the growth of DEI, HR and PR departments in governments and large corporations.
Friends in management (private and public) constantly complain about these useless departments that actually reduce productivity by wasting other departments’ time and resources.
I also recommend that people seek out Ted Gioia and his theory of “Hot versus Cool” periods in culture and entertainment.
If all they did was waste time and reduce productivity, that would be fine. And that's what it seems like at first to people who already work there. They can complain and sigh and laugh. But they already have their jobs, they have an education, and they have a resume which gives them a leg up in finding a new job.
What they actually do is change recruiting and hiring policies instituting de jure racism. They make it increasingly difficult to find a new job, especially for kids fresh out of school. They make it extremely difficult for the best candidates to climb the corporate ladder and achieve success on their own merit.
Your friends in management complain about reducing productivity. Their kids complain about finding decent employment at all or ever reaching management positions.
Thanks for info
"The elites are all Democrats."
LOL.
Yeah, Kevin may have bought all the books, but it doesn't seem like he read them ...
I know, right? When I think of " woke leftists" I certainly think of Monsanto, P&G, Peter Thiel, the Koch Brothers, Wall Street, Oil & Gas CEOs, etc......you know, the "workin' class folks."
THE REPUBLICANS CONTROL SOCIETY AND WE MUST STOP THEM!!!!
Apparently you're not aware that typing in all caps and adding four exclamation points (me, I always like to use an odd number) does not add to the efficacy of your argument.
Don't worry. Wait until you start getting his emojis.
the republicans control society because they run all of our right-wing universities and right-wing corporations.
IS THAT BETTER???
Much easier to read. Still wrong though. Ever heard of Fox News? The New York Post? The Manhattan Institute? Josh Hawley's congressional staff? Ron DeSantis' campaign staff? Those folks are all elites too.
Okay you are right, MarkS. The Democrats and Republicans are 50/50 split on elites. Because Josh Hawley went to Yale.
Are there any other arguments you would like to make that further clarify how much you are a totally dishonest piece of shit?
Ah, so quick with the personal insults. Did I run over your dog or something?
I never said that the elites were 50/50, I said that they were not 100/0, which was your claim.
Doesn't seem at times that Kevin the Question mark writes as if he's just snorted a line of cocaine?
The Republicans run the corporations and the universities and it needs to stop!!!!!
Koch Brothers!!!!!!
HaHa, Kevin!
Dude, the Koch Brothers are elites too.
Shhh......don't wake the baby, MarkS, KevinDurant thinks Wall Street, oil and gas companies and corporations are all controlled by "leftists."
Wall Street is going hard into DEI. Large institutional investors will invest in a company specifically because of certian metrics (racial diversity, percent women in leadership, etc). They'll sometimes also throw in climate. Dunno if you want to call that "leftist" or not, but it's simply the reality of new "conscientious investing" practiced by most venture capital and mutual funds.
Dude, seriously... go look at some recent presentations by BlackRock or Vanguard and then come back and tell me Wall Street is somehow conservative.
Invest regularly. Stock market and real estate. Plenty of other options if you don't like companies that are "into diversity." (Whatever the hell that means, today.)
It is nowhere near the levels of the current hysteria. Wall Street is FAR from "woke."
Major oil and gas companies are purtting substantial income and personal capital into developing alternative energy, (i.e. "throwing in climate") is that "woke," too? Or is it looking ahead to the future to the next curve? So the idea of "concientous investing" really amounts to finding ways to make money while still being good stewards of the Earth and mitigate/reduce damage to society/social fabrics as much as possible.
Dude...seriously, I've already been through one Satanic Panic. This "eVerYthinG iS wOke" is getting old. It just sounds stupid now.
Personally, I would put as much as you can into water, cause we're running out of that. The portfolio that I personally manage is 95% of that, and it has been VERY, VERY profitable.
Wall Street has always been ideologically and action-oriented Conservative. All about corporate profits, tax breaks for the 1%, offshoring jobs, deregulation, reducing wages and exploiting illegal immigrant labor all to increase stock price/dividends, so give me a break.
> Invest regularly. Stock market and real estate. Plenty of other options if you don't like companies that are into diversity.
Don't be obtuse. You brought up "Wall Street". eg mutual funds/institutional investors. Of course you can personally design your own investment strategy. But 99% of people won't be picking stocks; they'll be in retirement accounts (or out of the market), and it's those retirement accounts and mutual funds which are investing in that strategy. Venture capital/angel investors, eg the companies that decide what startup[s get money, use these things. And they filtyer down to hiring practices.
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> Major oil and gas companies [...]
I'd actually agree with the left on climate, so I'm not going to debate that one. We *do* need to do something about the environment and moving into alternative energy sources.
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Dude...seriously, I've already been through one Satanic Panic. This "eVerYthinG iS wOke" is getting old. It just sounds stupid now.
"Dude". I've had 30 interviews in a row with terrible candidates because the company I worked for changed the recruiting company it worked with. I've sat at meetings about hiring a candidate and needed to *bite my tongue* while they replaced one of our technical skills interviews with a culture interview because HR said our programming interviews were biased towards Asian and male candidates. I don't work there any more, but the reality of investing strategies and how it effects hiring cannot be overstated.
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> Wall Street has always been ideologically and action-oriented Conservative. All about corporate profits, tax breaks for the 1%, offshoring jobs, deregulation, reducing wages and exploiting illegal immigrant labor all to increase stock price/dividends, so give me a break.
Stop living in 1990. Go look at WEF's plans. Go look at some recent videos from BlackRock and Vanguard. They *acknowledge* that ESG will make less money, but are doing it for a social agenda.
No, actually someone else brought up Wall Street when they said "Leftists are controlled by Wall Steet." Which we all should know what that means ;)
I simply responded asking for clarification. So, first off, get your facts straight.
Everything I stated are still the ultimate goals of Wall Street in the 80s and now.
Yeah, yeah, I get it "eVeRYthiNG iS wOKe!"
ESG is/was a blip on the radar. It's on it's way out and it was never a really big thing to begin with anyway. Had a short run/interests, but at the end of the day, it'll wind up being a miniscule fraction of a funds total portfolio. Everyone needs to just go change their panties.
Yeah, Blackrock gave a nice presentation, but what are they REALLY doing? Buying up every home/real estate they can get their hands on, so they can turn everyone in the U.S. into perpetual tenants.
Personally, my 401k, retirement portfolios, etc. are looking great. So, whatever Vanguard, Fidelity and TIAA-CREF are doing, I'm all for it.
Please share your former company with the rest of us, so we can all be up to speed on who to boycott....then sue for loss of principal due to said boycott.
It is the leftist which are controlled by Wall Street.
Lol....ok.
And by "controlled by Wall Street"......what exactly do you mean? ;)
It means every opinion and thought YOU have starts from the likes of Larry Fink. He decides what the new narrative is. YOU follow like the sheeple you are.
Larry Fink? Hmm... Not familiar with him...is there some background you can give me about him to explain?
Now.....what exactly do you mean by "the leftists are controlled Wall Street?" ;) ;)
I ask only because I certainly would not want to have pegged you wrong from Day 1.
just shows how uniformed you are Conny
Nah. Perfectly informed. Which is why I know what "Leftists are controlled by Wall Street" REALLY means ;)
CEO of BlackRock. Manages $9,000,000,000,000 in assets. Far leftist radical. One of key people behind ESG. Openly admits to raising housing prices to force people into renting. Openly admits using his power to force people to his beliefs by deplatforming (cutting off resources to all banking for example) and other means.
Oh, so raising housing prices is "leftists." Lol!
"The leftists are controlled by Wall Street!" - Steven N.
Just say "The Jews," Steven.
Seriously, you're not fooling anyone - at least not me.
Lol! You're complaining about raising housing prices and forcing people into renting?! That's the free-market, trickle-down economy that is the best in world. Increases the share price and increases dividends, which causes people to take that income and open businesses and employ you, which will make YOU rich, Steven.
Prices for a house too high? Oh, well. Work harder, Steven. Get another job, etc.
If you don't like it, then take your ass to some 3rd world country and see how good it is there. Bet you'll be grateful then!!
THE OIL COMPANIES CONTROL EVERYTHING!!!!
(you have to know literally nothing about the stock market to think this)
Lol. Yeah, U.S. corporations are run by "leftists."....and all the "elites" in America are Democrats....ok....
Probably don't want to bring up the stock market, KevinDruant. You're dumb enough to think the economy is currently in a recession.
Yes, many are lost in THE FOX HAZE. The shhhto... the what market?
1000%
It's creepy.
All of the elites are Republicans. This is what holds people back. Black women go into a hospital in Chicago run by White Republicans and they die in childbirth because the White Republicans who work at Chicago hospitals reject them.
The amazing thing is that all of these White Republicans have infiltrated racially pure Black Democrat neighborhoods. How did they do that??? You can’t escape the WHITE REPUBLICAN INFILTRATORS!!!!
Kevin, your sarcasm is on overload this afternoon! Not sure where you are, but it’s 5:00 here & margaritas are flowing. You make me laugh out loud😊
Lol. I didn't say they're "all Republicans," dummy. I just said "they're not all Democrats" which was YOUR moronic smooth-brain, mouth-breather proposition/argument. There are wealthy elites on both sides of the aisle.
Yes, KevinDurant.....the "elites" in the U.S. are all Democrats. Which is explains why GOP candidates struggle so mightily for PAC money, etc.
What a smart observation.
Oh....so now all Obstetricians are "leftists," too? Black women die at higher rates during childbirth everywhere, KevinDurant. Not just Chicago ;) Probably for the same reason African-Americans were not really caught up in the opioid crisis as much as white patients.
Blank pregnant women die at higher rates because the Democrat doctors who serve them let them die.
Ask the doctors in Black neighborhoods who they vote for. They are ALL Democrats.
Already told you, smooth-brain. Higher rate of death, everywhere - not just "black neighborhoods."
Lol. I'm sure you have evidence/data to back that up your claim of political affiliation/voting? Or is this some more of your "thought-provoking" BS you habitually pull out of your ass?
IF WE STOP THE KOCH BROTHERS BIDEN CAN SAVE US!!!!
How? He can’t climb stairs, walk and chew gum. This guy is a disaster and his brainless VP.
Koch Brother? Last time I looked, the entire government is run by brainless democrats. Democrats have lied about everything! They are the one’s that have been dividing the nation. DEI, Trans, you name it. Pedophiles, defund the police, Portland, Seattle, LA. BLM. These are the ones. Lying FBI, CIA, DOJ, MSM. This guy is right. Time to take the people down or maybe a 100 mile wide asteroid. I don’t see another to cleanse this earth.
Isn't one of them dead? Can dead people be elites? (yeah, I know, the jokes write themselves)
A voice of reason thank you!