There is another possibility you didn't countenance as out institutions collapse:
Civil war and a breakup of the United States. The right half of the country feels powerless as all our institutions are now controlled by the far left. For all intents and purposes, we are now a Communist country. Even if Republicans control the go…
There is another possibility you didn't countenance as out institutions collapse:
Civil war and a breakup of the United States. The right half of the country feels powerless as all our institutions are now controlled by the far left. For all intents and purposes, we are now a Communist country. Even if Republicans control the government - the government bureaucracy, news media, Big Tech, educational and cultural institutions (all controlled by the radical left) and the leftist states effectively can and will veto whatever they do. For Free America to regain control, it has to create its own institutions. And the only way to do that now is to create its own country.
I think it is beyond doubt that the differences between Free America and Marxist America today is greater than those between the North and the South in 1860. We can't even agree on what a woman is. The North and South essentially had the same Judeo-Christian belief system, although there was a problem in that one side saw fit to include slavery as part of their belief system.
Our differences now are both cultural and religious - and Leftism/Marxism is a brutal, intolerant religion. We can't survive in a place where it is the state religion.
Everyone who proposes a civil war never seems to think about the details. Who would we have to kill? Student Protestors? College professors? Every Democrat in our town, even if they're family? Do we draft up an "army" based on party affiliation? Are YOU gonna personally fight in it? Do we just take all the Republican leaders from the House and Senate and build our own capital? Elect our own president, because that worked out so well for the Confederacy? Or are you imagining it's gonna all be about self defense?
Between this and all the 50+ people gloating about how they'll be dead before things get actually bad, I wish people could propose an actual answer to our problems. And you wonder why my generation are such nihilists.
Okay. You start. Do you have any solutions to propose? Or are you just going to criticize others for saying they will die soon? The way I look at it your generation created this monster.
What I'm saying is if we're gonna criticize my generation for nihilistically destroying ourselves, maybe we should find a solution that can create an actual future, one that can inspire them to have actual hope and meaning in their lives. And it would be better to turn to older, wiser people for that solution then for those people to check out and confirm our feelings that death (wether by suicide or killing others for political gain) is better than life. I admit my idea for a solution doesn't go much beyond creating alternative schools and media sources. But both of those things are growing exceptionally fast, with homeschooling rates increasing and sites like The Free Press and Breaking Points being more successful than anyone could've imagined even 10 years ago.
Not everyone in Gen-Z caused or embraces the current state of things, and actively want to change it. And imo, telling young people "at least *I'll* be dead soon" vaguely implies suicide would be preferable to these wannabe changers than living in this world. If you want things to get better, invite the Gen Z who are struggling to your church. If they're questioning the current narrative, let them freely debate the issues they'd get canceled for by their leftie friends. Show them compassion comes from US, not progressives who changes the meaning of the word every week. Nihilism is what got us into this mess, so we need to not embrace it ourselves.
Two years mandatory public service after high school. Could be military. Could be AmeriCorps. Could be deferred if proposed higher education allows for a greater contribution -- such as teaching or practicing medicine in an underserved community. Regardless, everyone earns the same wage for those two years.
Good ideas all FF. Thanks. To that I would add you need to reach out to your peers because you sound like a very insightful person. The folks saying I will be dead soon feel powerless and shoved aside. I saw a good FB post yesterday on Einstein's letter to his daughter about the power of love. I was genuinely moved. Check it out if you have not seen it already.
The Civil War was about more than slavery. Slavery was the catalyst but it was not the whole story. None of this rampant federalism resulting in a massive, bloated federal bureaucracy too unwieldy to manage that is intent on micromanaging every element of human existence could have occurred without the annihilation of states rights. Look at monetary policy for example. Then consider that slavery was financed by New York financiers. Slaves were transported on ships owned by northerners and ships transported the slave grown cotton to the overseas textile mills. I am not condoning slavery. I am saying it was far from.those evil southerners (not even evil plantation owners). As the old saying goes "Oh what a wicked web we weave when first we practice to deceive.".
Oh, I don't question that it is more than about slavery. It was many things, but I think above all, it was a dispute about the direction of the country in the wake of the changes being brought about by industrialization. Industrialization meant that the population growth was overwhelmingly in the North, and the South feared being overwhelmed both finanically and politically. Even if you could keep dividing states so that one free state entered and one slave state entered (thus keeping the Senate even), the vast population of the North was giving it overwhelming dominance in the House of Representatives.
Furthermore, pre-industrialization, IIRC, it was the South that generated most of the nation's foreign revenue via its exports; a dominance which was fading as the factories went up. The South ultimately split because it feared being overwhelmed by the North and losing its agrarian way of life. And yes, that meant that they wanted slaves; they did not want black freemen.
However, I seriously doubt the war was about slavery as a moral issue; Northerners simply were not that enlightened when it came to Blacks - witness the violence of NYC's anti-draft riots, when a number of blacks were killed.
A serious conversation about American slavery should include the context that slavery is a millennials old scourge practiced in every corner of the Earth, one which continues to this day, particularly in the Islamic world. What makes America special is our willingness to confront our history, to dissect it, to grieve our shortcomings. Is Xi critical of Mao’s purges, or Putin of Stalin’s purges? No - they CELEBRATE them. This is why the American experiment is so important and worth defending. If the U.S. collapses, the world won’t be ruled by Denmark. The word “darkness” does not describe what awaits us that day, including those who insist on destroying the U.S.
I agree. But I also think a genuine conversation needs to be had about slavery. About who profited, and arguably does to this day. About how those good folks who freed the slaves then cast them aside like trash to fend for themselves in a bitter and broken world. I cannot help but think the way New York, City and state, have reacted to the 4 migrants they have received is likely the way freed slaves were received. I call BS. I think people virtue signaled about slavery the same way they do about migrants today. Until they are in the signalers' neighborhood, then it's Katy bar the door. Literally.
I agree. Only 7% of Americans had slaves, and that included some black slaveowners as well. For most Southern Farmers, the plantations were like competing with a factory from an economic standpoint. And the Democrat-led Jim Crow South is a story most young Americans know little of, with Andrew Johnson completely undermining Lincoln until Grant re-established the parameters of Reconstruction.
As for the Liberals who are all about Sanctuary Cities as long as it doesn't affect them, I agree - time to call B.S. As someone said on one of these posts recently, you don't see BLM signs in South Central (L.A.), but they're all over the tony white neighborhoods, along with their gated homes and private security, of course.
“We are now a communist country”.. Seriously? Please find yourself some Konstantin Kisin to see what real totalitarian communism is like. I highly recommend his book “An immigrant’s love letter to the West.”
I occasionally will look at Triggernometry, but alas, there are so many podcasts worth watching that I simply don't have time now to devote to them that I would like (maybe when I retire in a couple of years).
However, if you compare use to the modern day CCP with its Social Credit system, we pretty much have that now - the only difference is that the present regime in Washington has outsourced the monitoring to private companies closely aligned with them. The CCP merely omits the outsourcing, but for all intents and purposes, Silicon Valley and the DNC are all part of the same Party structure.
So - are there Gulags? Not yet, but as the left consolidates power, they WILL happen. But modern Communist states can effectively control the populace through mass surveillance rather than mass murder.
Mr. Gurri:
There is another possibility you didn't countenance as out institutions collapse:
Civil war and a breakup of the United States. The right half of the country feels powerless as all our institutions are now controlled by the far left. For all intents and purposes, we are now a Communist country. Even if Republicans control the government - the government bureaucracy, news media, Big Tech, educational and cultural institutions (all controlled by the radical left) and the leftist states effectively can and will veto whatever they do. For Free America to regain control, it has to create its own institutions. And the only way to do that now is to create its own country.
I think it is beyond doubt that the differences between Free America and Marxist America today is greater than those between the North and the South in 1860. We can't even agree on what a woman is. The North and South essentially had the same Judeo-Christian belief system, although there was a problem in that one side saw fit to include slavery as part of their belief system.
Our differences now are both cultural and religious - and Leftism/Marxism is a brutal, intolerant religion. We can't survive in a place where it is the state religion.
Everyone who proposes a civil war never seems to think about the details. Who would we have to kill? Student Protestors? College professors? Every Democrat in our town, even if they're family? Do we draft up an "army" based on party affiliation? Are YOU gonna personally fight in it? Do we just take all the Republican leaders from the House and Senate and build our own capital? Elect our own president, because that worked out so well for the Confederacy? Or are you imagining it's gonna all be about self defense?
Between this and all the 50+ people gloating about how they'll be dead before things get actually bad, I wish people could propose an actual answer to our problems. And you wonder why my generation are such nihilists.
Okay. You start. Do you have any solutions to propose? Or are you just going to criticize others for saying they will die soon? The way I look at it your generation created this monster.
What I'm saying is if we're gonna criticize my generation for nihilistically destroying ourselves, maybe we should find a solution that can create an actual future, one that can inspire them to have actual hope and meaning in their lives. And it would be better to turn to older, wiser people for that solution then for those people to check out and confirm our feelings that death (wether by suicide or killing others for political gain) is better than life. I admit my idea for a solution doesn't go much beyond creating alternative schools and media sources. But both of those things are growing exceptionally fast, with homeschooling rates increasing and sites like The Free Press and Breaking Points being more successful than anyone could've imagined even 10 years ago.
Not everyone in Gen-Z caused or embraces the current state of things, and actively want to change it. And imo, telling young people "at least *I'll* be dead soon" vaguely implies suicide would be preferable to these wannabe changers than living in this world. If you want things to get better, invite the Gen Z who are struggling to your church. If they're questioning the current narrative, let them freely debate the issues they'd get canceled for by their leftie friends. Show them compassion comes from US, not progressives who changes the meaning of the word every week. Nihilism is what got us into this mess, so we need to not embrace it ourselves.
Two years mandatory public service after high school. Could be military. Could be AmeriCorps. Could be deferred if proposed higher education allows for a greater contribution -- such as teaching or practicing medicine in an underserved community. Regardless, everyone earns the same wage for those two years.
Good ideas all FF. Thanks. To that I would add you need to reach out to your peers because you sound like a very insightful person. The folks saying I will be dead soon feel powerless and shoved aside. I saw a good FB post yesterday on Einstein's letter to his daughter about the power of love. I was genuinely moved. Check it out if you have not seen it already.
The Civil War was about more than slavery. Slavery was the catalyst but it was not the whole story. None of this rampant federalism resulting in a massive, bloated federal bureaucracy too unwieldy to manage that is intent on micromanaging every element of human existence could have occurred without the annihilation of states rights. Look at monetary policy for example. Then consider that slavery was financed by New York financiers. Slaves were transported on ships owned by northerners and ships transported the slave grown cotton to the overseas textile mills. I am not condoning slavery. I am saying it was far from.those evil southerners (not even evil plantation owners). As the old saying goes "Oh what a wicked web we weave when first we practice to deceive.".
Oh, I don't question that it is more than about slavery. It was many things, but I think above all, it was a dispute about the direction of the country in the wake of the changes being brought about by industrialization. Industrialization meant that the population growth was overwhelmingly in the North, and the South feared being overwhelmed both finanically and politically. Even if you could keep dividing states so that one free state entered and one slave state entered (thus keeping the Senate even), the vast population of the North was giving it overwhelming dominance in the House of Representatives.
Furthermore, pre-industrialization, IIRC, it was the South that generated most of the nation's foreign revenue via its exports; a dominance which was fading as the factories went up. The South ultimately split because it feared being overwhelmed by the North and losing its agrarian way of life. And yes, that meant that they wanted slaves; they did not want black freemen.
However, I seriously doubt the war was about slavery as a moral issue; Northerners simply were not that enlightened when it came to Blacks - witness the violence of NYC's anti-draft riots, when a number of blacks were killed.
A serious conversation about American slavery should include the context that slavery is a millennials old scourge practiced in every corner of the Earth, one which continues to this day, particularly in the Islamic world. What makes America special is our willingness to confront our history, to dissect it, to grieve our shortcomings. Is Xi critical of Mao’s purges, or Putin of Stalin’s purges? No - they CELEBRATE them. This is why the American experiment is so important and worth defending. If the U.S. collapses, the world won’t be ruled by Denmark. The word “darkness” does not describe what awaits us that day, including those who insist on destroying the U.S.
I agree. But I also think a genuine conversation needs to be had about slavery. About who profited, and arguably does to this day. About how those good folks who freed the slaves then cast them aside like trash to fend for themselves in a bitter and broken world. I cannot help but think the way New York, City and state, have reacted to the 4 migrants they have received is likely the way freed slaves were received. I call BS. I think people virtue signaled about slavery the same way they do about migrants today. Until they are in the signalers' neighborhood, then it's Katy bar the door. Literally.
I agree. Only 7% of Americans had slaves, and that included some black slaveowners as well. For most Southern Farmers, the plantations were like competing with a factory from an economic standpoint. And the Democrat-led Jim Crow South is a story most young Americans know little of, with Andrew Johnson completely undermining Lincoln until Grant re-established the parameters of Reconstruction.
As for the Liberals who are all about Sanctuary Cities as long as it doesn't affect them, I agree - time to call B.S. As someone said on one of these posts recently, you don't see BLM signs in South Central (L.A.), but they're all over the tony white neighborhoods, along with their gated homes and private security, of course.
“We are now a communist country”.. Seriously? Please find yourself some Konstantin Kisin to see what real totalitarian communism is like. I highly recommend his book “An immigrant’s love letter to the West.”
I occasionally will look at Triggernometry, but alas, there are so many podcasts worth watching that I simply don't have time now to devote to them that I would like (maybe when I retire in a couple of years).
However, if you compare use to the modern day CCP with its Social Credit system, we pretty much have that now - the only difference is that the present regime in Washington has outsourced the monitoring to private companies closely aligned with them. The CCP merely omits the outsourcing, but for all intents and purposes, Silicon Valley and the DNC are all part of the same Party structure.
So - are there Gulags? Not yet, but as the left consolidates power, they WILL happen. But modern Communist states can effectively control the populace through mass surveillance rather than mass murder.
The socialist revolution is here and well under way.
Atlas must shrug. Do not work for them and do not give them your money.
Atlas must shrug. Perfect.