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The mainstream press is largely left so if they're mobbing Vivek and ignoring Haley, you know it's because they're handpicking the opposition they think is most likely to lose.

Just as they back far right candidates who have no chance of winning local elections.

They are going for the candidate that will sell the most newstime, a disruptor, and someone whose flirtations with conspiracy theory will allow him to be mocked and dismissed by swing voters.

The mainstream media are already crafting the narrative and Republicans are eating it up. You're being played. Haley is the only one who can compete in a presidential election and have any chance of beating a Dem. I lean moderate and liberal but that's not what the Dems have stood for in a long time and I've become sympathetici f not outright supportive of conservative arguments over the last 10 years. So I'm talking from experience when I tell you that Haley is the only one that many liberals concerned with the direction of this country will be able to justify voting for.

She is the smartest of the lot, has a proven track record, and the press will struggle to malign her character. That's why they are ignoring her and swamping Vivek. Haley is the real threat to the Biden dynasty.

If CNN and NBC are courting Vivek, do you think they have a Republican win in mind? Quite the opposite. And they think Republican voters are just dumb enough to fall for it. So please, focus on the long game.

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Mountain Goat's avatar

Outside of his presidential bid, what do you think of rfk?

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Nuance&context's avatar

I think he has some interesting things to say. But so does Vivek. Similarly, both of them flirt with conspiracy theories and draw outside the lines. I think this makes for charismatic figures who get us thinking, call out and challenge the establishment, and bring a dynamism and breath of fresh air to the table. Very seductive. But people mistake these aspects for leadership qualities when maybe there's less depth and strategy and more just rebel charisma. I think that rfk dusts things up a little and that may work to keep things interesting. But at the end of the day, I'm not sure he has what it takes to lead this country.

What are your thoughts on rfk?

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234's avatar

Anyone on that stage will wipe up the floor with Biden. It's the Republican's election to lose.

And 3 time loser Trump just may deliver.

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Nuance&context's avatar

You're still focusing on the wrong wins. Dems don't care if the Reps argue better unless theyre saying things Dems can connect to. Haley has that ability I think. Trump is shackled one way or another and that boat has unfortunately sailed. With so much partisanship at play, the only way you could appeal to swing moderates on both sides is to present the smartest candidate with the most sense and best arguments. Haley is part of the establishment but she is strong, honest, and would run a tight ship. The Dems look like bullies when they attack her for her Indian name and other such below the belt strategies.

The biggest mistake you can make is to underestimate Biden and the blind partisanship that protects him. You need to pick the candidate with the potential to beat him on the stage and at the polls. The language and thinking of Dems is different- how you speak counts. Look at Obama. Look at Clinton. Well-spoken, great speeches, cultured, charismatic but never aggressive. Haley has all that.

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Aaron S's avatar

Don't ignore the turnout issue. Haley isn't anyone's idea of an exciting candidate. Were she the nominee against Biden, I think we could see voter participation drop to a multidecade low, which would probably redound to the Democrats benefit.

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Maybe. But that's why it's important for Reps to look beyond the circus and excitement and get serious. Dems low turnout could be a bonus if Haley is failing to inspire fear and indignation in them. It would be a weakness to go all gaga for Vivek and get all hyped on the hat wearing again. He seems as naive about foreign policy as Obama was when he stepped into the ring. That leads to disastrous foreign policy based on agenda and ideology rather than reality.

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Jenny's avatar

🤔 very interesting and thought proviking comment, clearly much more to come

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