Haley will get us into war over Taiwan for microchips which is hilarious because going to war for the microchips………immediately takes said microchip production offline at which point we are screwed AND in a second war.
The military is currently run by perverts parasites and intellectuals. We ran out of ammunition 18 months into a medium-sized proxy war despite having a $900 billion annual military budget plus $120 billion supplemental for the proxy war. Do you have any idea how much corruption has to be going on for that to happen? We cannot fight until that place is totally cleaned out.
Vivek said that. It didn’t land squarely, but it was a better line than the unfair “I’m the only one here who isn’t bought and paid for.” And of that crowd on the stage I like Vivek and DeSantis.
That line seemed to me like a way to game the time system. Force others to indignantly respond, possibly opening themselves up to a counter punch, but by responding to him specifically Vivek was guaranteed an extra 30 seconds of speaking time for each time he was addressed.
It’s a good line because it’s probably literally true about Haley. Also, since media likes “firsts”, the first Indian American vs Indian American political zinger?
That was a Vivek response to her attacking him on Ukraine. I’m from SC too and was pretty disappointed if unsurprised at the poor showing from Scott and Haley. Neither of them seem to seriously think they can win. Haley legit seems to be in it for campaign cash and/or a future lobbying gig for the MIC, and Scott’s probably angling for a diversity VP pick
That wasn't my impression. I think Haley did really well. Other than Vivek, she was the only one IMO who came out looking better. Before the debate I thought she was a lightweight. Last night she proved herself to be much more IMO. She gave great answer at every turn, and her decent stage presence. Honestly she came out looking stronger and for old hat GenX me she convinced me to get behind her. What she lacks is the understanding that the world has changed. People are not looking for serious or looking presidential anymore. Vivek I thought got the pulse of our crazy new world. Unless she can somehow figure that out and play to the social media age audience, she won't move a needle. But I have a totally different impression than you about Haley. And substantively her answers won the whole debate for me (not talking about positions, just talking about how a candidate would go about solving problems beyond "I would do this" without explaining how.) But again, people aren't looking for that.
Tim Scott was disappointment. Going in I was rooting for him. He lost me when he went off emotionally begging for people to care about stopping abortions after 15 weeks. Policy wise I actually can get behind that. But the emoting freaked me out. And when he said he wanted to impose this in Chicago and NY and LA and whatever, he must be out of his mind to think that'll fly. He just lost all the moderate women voters right there.
Not sure what you were watching. Haley won the debate running away. Vivek did not acquit himself well - his foreign policy positions were amateur hour and he exposed himself as a flip-flopper. Pretty clear he's just trying to ride Trump's coattails into some kind of a cabinet position.
Good assessment. Haley went from borderline middle class / broke as Gov to…Kiawah (our expensive yankee enclave). She has learned how to parlay her deck into income. Scott is a good man and may yet get that VP ticket.
“I wish you well in your future board positions at Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.” I lost it at that. Haley is such an obvious neocon warmonger.
Vivek is the warmonger. Haley will prevent wars.
How could you possibly come away with that conclusion? Did you watch the debate through a funhouse mirror, or possibly on heavy narcotics?
Haley will get us into war over Taiwan for microchips which is hilarious because going to war for the microchips………immediately takes said microchip production offline at which point we are screwed AND in a second war.
The military is currently run by perverts parasites and intellectuals. We ran out of ammunition 18 months into a medium-sized proxy war despite having a $900 billion annual military budget plus $120 billion supplemental for the proxy war. Do you have any idea how much corruption has to be going on for that to happen? We cannot fight until that place is totally cleaned out.
Oh! Who said that? Haley is our former SC Governor and is always auditioning for her next role. As is our SC-01 Congresswoman Nancy Mace.
Vivek said that. Great line.
Vivek said that. It didn’t land squarely, but it was a better line than the unfair “I’m the only one here who isn’t bought and paid for.” And of that crowd on the stage I like Vivek and DeSantis.
That line seemed to me like a way to game the time system. Force others to indignantly respond, possibly opening themselves up to a counter punch, but by responding to him specifically Vivek was guaranteed an extra 30 seconds of speaking time for each time he was addressed.
It’s a good line because it’s probably literally true about Haley. Also, since media likes “firsts”, the first Indian American vs Indian American political zinger?
That was a Vivek response to her attacking him on Ukraine. I’m from SC too and was pretty disappointed if unsurprised at the poor showing from Scott and Haley. Neither of them seem to seriously think they can win. Haley legit seems to be in it for campaign cash and/or a future lobbying gig for the MIC, and Scott’s probably angling for a diversity VP pick
That wasn't my impression. I think Haley did really well. Other than Vivek, she was the only one IMO who came out looking better. Before the debate I thought she was a lightweight. Last night she proved herself to be much more IMO. She gave great answer at every turn, and her decent stage presence. Honestly she came out looking stronger and for old hat GenX me she convinced me to get behind her. What she lacks is the understanding that the world has changed. People are not looking for serious or looking presidential anymore. Vivek I thought got the pulse of our crazy new world. Unless she can somehow figure that out and play to the social media age audience, she won't move a needle. But I have a totally different impression than you about Haley. And substantively her answers won the whole debate for me (not talking about positions, just talking about how a candidate would go about solving problems beyond "I would do this" without explaining how.) But again, people aren't looking for that.
Tim Scott was disappointment. Going in I was rooting for him. He lost me when he went off emotionally begging for people to care about stopping abortions after 15 weeks. Policy wise I actually can get behind that. But the emoting freaked me out. And when he said he wanted to impose this in Chicago and NY and LA and whatever, he must be out of his mind to think that'll fly. He just lost all the moderate women voters right there.
Haley is a very experienced diplomat and it showed up last night.
Very knowledgeable about many complex topics.
A very strong VP candidate indeed.
But, I just don’t believe that she would accept the VP spot if Trump were the #1 on the ticket.
Not sure what you were watching. Haley won the debate running away. Vivek did not acquit himself well - his foreign policy positions were amateur hour and he exposed himself as a flip-flopper. Pretty clear he's just trying to ride Trump's coattails into some kind of a cabinet position.
I saw the same debate you did.
Interesting how comments here can be so different.
Humans are so bazaar.
Good assessment. Haley went from borderline middle class / broke as Gov to…Kiawah (our expensive yankee enclave). She has learned how to parlay her deck into income. Scott is a good man and may yet get that VP ticket.