Nah the sunset is not enough. I wish Trump all the best health but things won't change for the better for the republican party until he heads off to the big Mar-a-Lago in the sky.
Ben, Vivek hasnтАЩt done a thing until he confronts the man he wants to replace, Donald himself. Vivek (2.0) has to defeat Trump (1.0) - and in order to do that he has to tell the MAGA lytes that he can do better than Trump and he has to say why he can by indicating where Trump went wrong. Until he does that, I wonтАЩt be convinced heтАЩs a serious candidate. Vivek has been walking on eggshells trying not to upset TrumpтАЩs base - but in order to win, he has to go there and call a spade a spade. Maybe heтАЩs hoping the indictments will do all that dirty work for him..
Yes Ben. VR is what the country needs. His non-political resume and previous anonymity allow him to say what he thinks. As voters get to know him let's hope they realize perfection doesn't exist.
Disagree. Those running the country have the experience and are not doing it well. Experience is only one trait. Courage, intelligence, understanding human nature and history are as, if not more, important.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I have all the traits you mention, plus very experienced in my profession, and that doesn't qualify me to be the President.
Or. And stay with me here. The Media wants to see Vivek (and Trump) further divide the GOP to ensure a Biden 2024 re-election. Neither candidate can win a general election but what they can do is generate lots of ad-revenue for the Media.
I have mixed feelings about that. One, I do not care for political dynasties. Two Iam troubled by the junkie thing. I have dealt with some heroin addicts and IMO they are permanently altered people. That being said, never say never.
He doesnтАЩt rely on тАЬbig moneyтАЭ, if by that you mean wealthy donors. HeтАЩs spending his own money, which he has a lot of. He was a precocious venture capitalist who has done well for himself as the founder of several companies, especially Roivant Sciences, a biotech company that acquired several FDA patents before he sold his shares.
IтАЩm neither defending nor rejecting him, but itтАЩs obvious that the liberal media now lies about him incessantly, because thatтАЩs how they roll. I recommend doing your own research and maybe reading his book, Woke, Inc., which I found instructive, if a little over my head in the venture capitalism department.
To this point, a bulk of Vivek's funding has been self funding. I like Ramaswamy and Haley. Vivek seems to rely too much on prepared talking points, while Nikki seems to be able to speak off the cuff on most subjects. They both bring very different skill sets to the table. At this point, I would like to see a Haley/Ramaswamy ticket.
My impression of Vivek was less favorable. He has no experience in government at all, and experience counts in every profession. He insinuated that the other candidates were all "on the take" or in the pocket of special interests, which was baseless and unnecessarily insulting. We already have a candidate who specializes in baseless attacks. He seems to be bristling with ideas, but I doubt he would be able to enact much when he runs into Washington realities. And most of his substantive ideas are shared by the other candidates. He's glib, too. Christie's remark about Vivek being like Obama hit home with me.
Big Noise, do you really believe those on stage with Vivek havenтАЩt benefited from merely being politicians?
There are some, I hope, but once elected they all become wealthy and not from their salaries. Plus, with no term limits and unlimited job offers in DC, none are forced to return home to live in the real world of what they help create.
Unless or until Special Interest, PACs, Big Tech, Unions, etc., etc. are stopped, we will continue to have the best politicians money can buy!
Last point. All the money the candidates pull in from donors they get to put in their тАЬWar ChestтАЭ and that should be outlawed, in my humble opinion.
Seems running for office pays well.
I respect Vivek, like Trump, having their own money & arenтАЩt dependent on Big donors. Yet, anyway.
I don't share the belief that they're all crooks, or just in it for money, though many certainly are. DeSantis, for example, has a very low net worth. As a Harvard educated lawyer with a compelling back-story, he would have made far more money with a silk-stocking law firm. And I don't care if a politician makes big dough after his days of public service are over. We can't expect top people to work for BS money. I just don't like them cashing in during their term of service, like Biden or Pelosi or Hillary. There are a lot of ethical rules that could be tightened.
I am okay with glib as long as there is a plan to back it up. Otherwise as much as I like what he has to say, and I do, I think he would be swamp chum in DC. I actually think Trump's lack of experience there is what did him in.
I agree with you. He is like a young Dictator. Very Robotic and no understanding of humans. Right out of a Silicon Valley playbook. I thought he made Nikki Haley shine. She should be the new face of the Republican Party.
At least he has made his own big money. Did Barack ever make his own money in anything other than govt? And I am asking because I wasn't watching politics in the Obama lead up years. So maybe he had a real job outside of govt? I am sure Google would know.
KTon, I posted about this! You are correct about Obama. Like many / most politicians, they get filthy rich from being politicians! We have the best ones money can buy!
Of course, Obama makes megabucks, like the Clintons & others from his invitation only speeches now.
Barack Obama worked as an attorney in Chicago for a small left wing law firm for 10 years. Before Tony Rezco gave Obama a sweetheart deal on his home, Rezco was an Obama client. Obama's practice focused on real estate financing of low income housing funded by the government and non-profits. This position was crucial to Obama for forming his political base.
After college, Obama went to Chicago and did work as a community organizer. He had entree to the left from his mentor in Hawaii Frank Marshall Davis, who was the publisher of the Chicago Star and a card carrying Communist. When Obama decided to go to Harvard Law School he set his sights on a political career.
For this information and more, turn to a series of 10 short articles by the Washington Examiner published in 2012 on the early life of Obama. To access, google Bishop Brazier and look for article 4 that focuses on Brazier. That should gain you access to the other nine. Brazier was a left wing activist, mentor and client to Obama. Look at the Woodlawn transactions.
I found these articles because I wanted to know how this young man from Hawaii formed his political base. This series tells you how he did it and it leaves you admiring his political skill.
I read тАЬRadical in ChiefтАЭ, a book that detailed his socialist ties during his early years in Chicago. Also another biography that did a deep dive into his past. No doubt born in Hawaii, but very likely his real father was the commie Frank Marshall Davis. I also have a book jacket bio from the 1990s where he states, тАЬborn in KenyaтАЭ. So Obama himself invented that lie early in life to increase his social cache. I remember the hilarious explanations that were offered to explain that book jacket bio during his campaign---oh, some confused copy editor wrote it, no one caught it. Uh huh.
Did you read them? I read the first one and sent him an email saying I hope you are what you say you are. The response was; send money. I didn't vote for him.
I read some excerpts. I saw nothing that made me want to read further. But that is sad that your genuine feedback was used to solicit money. My email, and sometimes texts, are filled with beggars. I consider that bad behavior and I learned long ago not to reward bad behavior. ;)
ThereтАЩs no comparison. Obama was an empty suit of zero accomplishments. He fulfilled the leftтАЩs need for a black president. All the dirt dug up on him meant nothing, he was the leftтАЩs black Jesus.
Vivek has lots of ideas, some controversial, but heтАЩs unafraid. We need something new. We need to get past Trump. I like the fact that Vivek acknowledges TrumpтАЩs accomplishments but then says, heтАЩs 80. LetтАЩs move on.
Agree, MCMaureen! Obama had NEVER built a company or ran a business. Lawyer, yes, (Harvard Law School), but his claim to fame was mostly тАЬCommunity OrganizerтАЭ Plus, a great orator!
Vivek Ramaswamy also has a J.D. from Yale Law School (BA from Harvard), and is a great orator! Unlike Obama, BEFORE becoming President, Vivek is an entrepreneur in his own right.
Forbes list VivekтАЩs net worth at around $1 Billion (last weekтАЩs report), so he is not тАЬbeholden to Big DonorsтАЭ like Obama was. And Obama, like most politicians, got his wealth (became rich) off being a politician.
Also, Dr. Apoorva Ramaswamy, VivekтАЩs wife, is a тАЬdoctor of medicineтАЭ (Yale School of Medicine), resident physician at NY Presbyterian Hospital - Columbia and Cornel. Currently, sheтАЩs an assistant professor in the Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery at Ohio State University. SheтАЩs also mother to two small children, and a very hands on, involved mother, as Vivek is a father.
In my humble opinion, Jill Biden (doctorate in education University of Delaware 2007), being referred to (mostly SINCE becoming 1st Lady) as тАЬDr. JillтАЭ is a bit misleading and a far cry from тАЬDr. Apoorva Ramaswamy.
Please, before ANY criticism, I absolutely give Jill Biden credit where credit is due! However, I have many friends AND relatives who have multiple Master Degrees along with their Ph.D. (My sister in law has two from University of Rhode Island, in English Literature and Philosophy), getting those while raising a toddler and being pregnant. SheтАЩs also a registered nurse, practicing when not lecturing in college).
Literally NONE of them go by тАЬDr.тАЭ but certainly Ph. D. is ALWAYS noted after their names. Even my s-i-l has her students call her Ms., Mrs. or by her given name. She certainly could be called Dr. if she chooses.
Would it be acceptable to use тАЬDr.тАЭ when being introduced? Absolutely, of course, and well deserved, but most will clarify with, тАЬPlease donтАЩt, else IтАЩll be asked where I practice medicine, and I canтАЩt deliver your baby or stitch your cutтАЭ followed with a laugh! So, I mean nothing derogatory or demeaning toward Jill Biden, Ed.D., doctorate in education.
If we are comparing and contrasting the two men, letтАЩs look at their names. Barack Hussein Obama decided to use his African name, by his own admission, while at Occidental College, a predominantly white liberal arts college. Saying that тАЬgave rise to awakening from a slumber of indifference and to his activismтАЭ and that тАЬhe wanted to reinvent himself in a more grownup wayтАЭ Until then, being raised by his White mother & Grand parents, he was Barry Soetoro (Soetoro being his stepfatherтАЩs last name).
Also, he admits he enjoyed AND inhaled marijuana, alcohol and sometimes тАЬgetting high on cocaineтАЭ but realized his тАЬfear of becoming addicted, like so many other Black menтАЭ. He did and does still smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol, like many others!
Note: ironically, it was Hillary Clinton who brought up ObamaтАЩs drug use, when she was his chief Democrat rival, saying it would make him тАЬvulnerable to Republican attacks if he became the partyтАЩs nomineeтАЭ. Gotta love Hillary (the pot calling the kettle black)! Kinda like Kamala calling out Biden as a racist BEFORE being chosen as his VP.
Vivek Ramaswamy, like Obama, is also a тАЬman of ColorтАЭ Tho, like ALL Conservative people of Color, the Democrats refer to them as тАЬWhite Supremacist People of ColorтАЭ & Democrats wonтАЩt acknowledge VivekтАЩs race, because thatтАЩs only reserved for Blacks.
There is a lot of negative views of Vivek Ramaswamy from both Left & Right, but no mention, yet, of early drug use, or changing his name to help his image. Born and raised by Hindu parents, in Ohio & attending a Catholic High School, heтАЩs not from a broken home or blended family. He was raised with a strong emphasis on education, developing a moral compass and work ethic. None of which will be viewed as benefit to him in this Presidential race, or Politics. Duh!
I donтАЩt think he has a chance of becoming our President, but I would vote for him in a heartbeat over Biden, Kamala (Heaven forbid), Newsom OR Trump. (Sorry Trump supporters, but I fear the ever growing divide in our Country will only widen if Biden OR Trump become President, again! Their supporters are too angry!)
Lastly, Vivek is being ridiculed as naive, too young, NOT A Politician (that right there earns my vote!), etc. Plus, he does believe there are some тАЬcontroversial drugsтАЭ he thinks should not be denied to VetтАЩs with PTSD, as well as some mentally ill patients.
Sorry for my TOO LONG post today! Now, on to prepare for the next Government shutdown crisis, since we have an election in the near future!
I want a president who gets America from A to B on time, within budget, with genuine warmth and humor, and when the occasional emergency derails the train, he or she knows how to mutter, "Aw, hells, that sucks," roll up his or her sleeves, and put it back on track without social media melodrama.
I'm not sure about the warmth part, but DeSantis seems to check your other boxes. He has governed through hurricanes and pandemics and taken a LOT of *&^*&^ thrown his way and he does not care.
Right now, nobody on either side. I don't know that somebody that qualified to be our president would ever run for the job. Presidents have to take vast oceans of crap from everyone on everything--"I cured cancer!" "Yeah, dipshit, what about my hemorrhoids, huh, you worthless POS!"--and have little power without Congress on his or her side.
Who of any genuine worth would want such a job? It's why we get Biden vs. Trump instead of Jesus vs. Moses.
ThatтАЩs Ron DeSantis. Period. Get over the personality issue. He can plow through the bs and knows how to get stuff done without having tantrums and his political opponents trying to toss him in jail.
You canтАЩt run a country with constant impeachments and indictments from. Your enemies. ItтАЩs not fair, but itтАЩs reality.
Sure, DeSantis gets stuff done. But Mussolini made the trains run on time and I think as little of his policies as I do those of DeSantis. Add the sour personality and he's a no-fly zone.
Actually, I don't care what color he was, I just wish Obama had had better ideas rather than the ones he had. He did not improve life for anyone except himself and his family. He inflamed racism and made it worse when he should have been working for reconciliation. He did not leave the country a better place when he left it.
I made the mistake of interacting with Comprof2.0 some time ago. Comprof2.0 said all of sorts of very crazy things. Now I am just repeating them. Toward the end of the interaction I realized that I was making a mistake. I was responding factually. After a while, I realized that the real issue was sanity. Since then I have tried to fix my mistake.
Katharina I truly admire both your sincerity and generosity of spirit, but please do not feed the troll. I am convinced it is someone's AI plaything. And if it is indeed a human I visualize it sitting at its keyboard in a pointy hat, with a pointy chin and nose, green cast to its skin, with it's clawlike fingers poised over its keyboard whispering to itself "[C]ome my pretties. Please come my pretties."
IтАЩm wondering if 2.0 is a TFP intern, paid to troll us and gin up something interesting in the Comments. I always come here with my coffee in the morning but itтАЩs getting boring and sounding like an echo chamber.
Of course when he was Barry Sotero the black part was kept in the closet. Obama and his errand boy CompFraud are empty suits. The former we are stuck with try not to give the latter attention.
And it was the main reason many on the right did not vote for him, Katharina.
So, once again, whenever anyone says "people only voted for Obama because he was black." You can be 100% sure that the same "blackness" is why they didn't vote for him.
So, that is EXACTLY what it means.
Lol. Yeah, the "the left" only voted based on his race - not becausr of ideas, party affiliation, etc. while the "right" didn't vote for him because of their deep, well-considered, in-depth analysis of foreign and domestic policy.
Risible rubbish. I'm sure there were some people who refused to support Obama because if his race, but not "many." Every one of the thousands of conservatives I know would enthusiastically support Tim Scott if he secures the nomination. It is about ideas, not race.
Whenever someone leads with, "Obama only got elected/got votes because he was black." You can be 100% certain that's the same reason they didn't vote for him.
Good luck with your "thousands of conservatives you know." Not enough. Tim Scott is DOA.
Hopefully, he learned his lesson when he expressed an opinion about FL education standards re: slavery :)
No, I refused to vote for him because his ideas were so bad. Now the proof is in the pudding. As I said above, he didn't leave the country a better place.
YouтАЩre 100% right about that. I know a lot of people (тАЬfriendsтАЭ family, co workers) who expressed that sentiment explicitly. Some of them even used a different term than тАЬblackтАЭ.
Now IтАЩm not saying that everyone who voted against Obama is racists but IтАЩm definitely saying the racists voted against Obama
Yep. Exactly.Of course people voted against him for different reasons, but whenever someone leads with "he only got elected/got votes because he was black" You can be 100% certain that his ethnicity/race is the reason THEY didn't vote for him.
One thing I noticed and admired, when asked a question involving raising a hand, Vivek didnтАЩt first look around and see what the others did. His hand went right up. That says he knows his position and isnтАЩt afraid to say it.
It's good to be decisive but it also shows that he's bull-headed. Many of his ideas are unrealistic and unattainable. A leader needs to listen to his/her advisors and demonstrate a sense of reason. Character matters and I didn't see that in him.
Vivek was the only one on that stage that articulated the concerns of most everyday Americans. With the exception of DeSantis, the rest of the major players came off as establishment re-treads dutifully parroting their corporate talking points. Paramount among them was the demand that we continue to provide unquestioned financial and military support for a corrupt Ukraine government that is losing its war with Russia. Haley in particular came off as a screeching, unhinged ex-wife. The most comical line was when she accused Vivek of being a foreign policy amateur while ignoring that Ukraine has suffered over 350,000 casualties, an army that is running out of men as the promised spring offensive becomes a nightmare, millions of fleeing citizens and an infrastructure that is being systematically decimated. Anyone old enough to have lived through the Vietnam War knows where policy geniuses like Haley is leading us. Never mind that Russia is stronger militarily and financially today than before the war started and a once unthinkable Russia/China alliance is blossoming before our eyes.
Vivek is offering a vision of hope where the oppressed are freed of their shackles, where the power of self-determination is returned to the people. His historical perspective is correct, that power will not be willingly relinquished any more readily than it was in 1776. The enemy is no longer clad in redcoats, but $1,000 designer suits and their weapon of choice is division and chaos. After last night, I think itтАЩs clear who is on our side.
Seriously, a Harvard/Yale multi-millionaire with zero public service credentials who couldn't even be bothered to participate in our illusion of democracy by voting in recent years...How does such a man offer 'a vision of hope" to the oppressed? I'm truly curious. Because to me he came across as an ego-driven pharma bro.
Why is there so little news coverage of this war? The media were all over Vietnam in the тАШ60s and тАШ70s. We are being lied to about Ukraine. If there were great victories why arenтАЩt we seeing them?
тАЬWhy is there so little news coverage of this warтАЭ
You and I both know why Maureen, Ukraine is losing badly. Unlike the Vietnam era, the media has become corporatized and dutifully turns a blind eye. The media, deep state and compliant politicians have chosen to join in an incestuous circle jerk that facilitates perpetual war. Last night exposed the republican participants
I disagree with this characterization of Ms. Haley. She is not my choice but I thought she did an outstanding job standing up to Vivek, who is my choice, and taking him on without coming across as a bitch. She went toe to toe with him in an inspiring display of skill and strength. Very similar to how she called out Trump back then.
I agree. SheтАЩs not my candidate and she may or may not be corrupt but she IS level-headed and has a reasonable view of how politics actually works. Also, IтАЩll never forget how she stood up and defended the USA fearlessly at the UN. Respect.
(That's $5000.00 designer suits Sir.) If this is what the Republican Party is fronting they've lost. I tried to watch the debate and quit about half-way through. I felt no sense of Party cohesion or clarity and I really wanted too. I'm not a Trump guy and would willingly support another candidate, but verbally throwing him under the bus at this point is, win or lose, capitulation to the vipers nest known as the DNC. America is rightfully outraged at the corruption of its DOJ and Judiciary. The candidates should have been united on that. It is indeed time for a generational passing of the political torch but when looking at Ramaswamy I couldn't help thinking of Obama and the old Waylon Jennings line "be careful of something that's just what you want it to be."
For me, it may have been the format and the number of the candidates on the stage, but subscription journalism has allowed Americans to go beyond "sound bite" politics. The American future is on the line. We deserve a better discussion. Europe has entered a dark age. Courts and political systems captured, thought and speech crime arrests and prosecutions, open criminal assault on citizens, billions to house refugees, nothing for its people. It is the intent of DNC/CCP/EU/Davos fascism to bring this Republic to its knees. And they're doing it. We've been hostage to a lie for over a decade now. Our cities are war zones, economy in ruins, the EU/Davos planned flooding of our Continent with illegals well underway. Our children can't read. And, the totalitarian Marxist "woke" D.E.I., which destroys good lives every day of the week, has decided that "we the people" are deplorable terrorists. Eight more years of DNC wicked and it's not going to matter anymore.
We need a candidate that understands the real implications of the Assange/Snowden travesty, the J/6 surveillance state psyop and the in your face corruption of the DNC/DOJ Trump prosecution. The assault on journalism and freedom of speech and saying it like it is, as with Russia Gate, the attempted Banana Republic imprisonment of viable political opposition to steal an election. It's not something else. The fats in the fire and if the DNC stays in power we are all going to burn.
I agree with much of what you say here. But the GOP has ceased to be a serious party. With no platform, denial of climate change, openly hostile to women (a gun effectively has more right in some states) and a clownish, indicted dotard as their chosen "leader," Americans who long for actual, sensible governance remain SOL. I predict the wheels come off the bus this "election" cycle.
Mike R., to your comment about Obama and be careful...I voted for Obama once and Trump twice and yes I was "played" as many of us were, w Obama. But was surprised w Trump- I do not like his "style" ( I am being nice!) But liked his Policies- he Accomplished a Lot despite being new to Washington and being lied to, manipulated, deceived, its surprising he got anything done.
Having said all that, it's time for him to step away - let Vivek lead. I DO feel he is more than capable. Listen to any number of interviews he's done on YouTube:
All In Podcast, Grant Cardone, Bari Weiss ЁЯШЙ & Honestly, Russell Brand. He had ties to no one
The Glenn Greenwald RUMBLE interview with VR was my first look. His focus on the Constitution has my interest. He is certainly saying the right things.
Thank you for this clear articulation of what terrifies so many of us in this moment! I donтАЩt care how much people hate Trump or each other. For all that is good and true in this world, we MUST unite and fight this evil. We can make a stand together, or be enslaved alone.
Mike, I agree with most of what you say! But I would add RINOs to your list of the corrupt.
As far as VivekтАЩs price of suit. HE bought & paid for it, like Trump always has, yet that irks many people. IтАЩm not distracted from his message by that. Like Trump, heтАЩs coming into this fight not as a тАЬpolished politicianтАЭ bought & paid for.
It may not be his time, but we desperately need & deserve better than what we have, or have to choose from.
Wow Mike you are exactly on point in this post. Where to from here, your last sentence says it all - we are going to burn if the Democrats come in again with Joe Biden at the helm. This election is the most important of our lifetime we have got to vote the current rubbish out!
I don't think Haley came off like that at all. I think she came off well, at least to me. Why do descriptors like "screeching" and "unhinged" have to be applied to the only woman on the panel? Pence screeched a lot too.
Screeching is what I call the high-pitched interruptions that Haley rudely employed in her Ukraine exchange with Vivek. Absent the annoying tonal qualities, Pence's interruptions were just as rude and baseless.
Unhinged is what I call someone who can ignore the gruesome realities I listed above and demand we remain complicit in fighting a lost war that will inevitably end in UkraineтАЩs utter destruction and loss of an entire generation of its men.
I've not seen or heard anything from her that would lead me to believe she will improve the lives of Americans and her Ukraine obsession will only make things worse. The only thing that separates her from candidates like Pence and Christie is a pair of ovaries. Her smug Margaret Thatcher quip, тАЬIf you want something done, ask a womanтАЭ may resonate with some but I think she lost more support last night than she gained.
I don't know which debate you watched, but in the one I saw Vivek interrupted more than any other candidate on the floor. I came in rooting for Vivek and left disappointed. He's smart, but not smart enough to keep the smirk off his face. His brash arrogance reminded me of an unguided missile. I hope his time will come, but it's not now.
p.s. Those high pitched interruptions you hear around you are called women--most likely women you have interrupted. Call me when you hold men to the same standard you require of Haley.
тАЬCall me when you hold men to the same standard you require of HaleyтАЭ
Perhaps you missed this part of my post тАЬAbsent the annoying tonal qualities, Pence's interruptions were just as rude and baselessтАЭ.
Decorum and delivery aside, itтАЩs HaleyтАЩs foreign policy proscriptions, made obvious in her exchange with Vivek that disqualifies her from my consideration. Ironically, she was part of the Trump administration that managed to restrain Putin and every other authoritarian regime from becoming the boogeymen Haley insists they are.
Instead of embracing Trumps approach, itтАЩs obvious that Haley is part of the warmonger wing of the Republican Party, and the fact that she has ovaries instead of testicles doesnтАЩt make her any less dangerous to the well being of this country.
I appreciate your comment. If I were to give you a call, or converse over a glass or two of Pinot Noir, I suspect we could have a respectful and engaging discussion on the state of the country and our perceptions of who is best suited to move it in a positive direction. Contrary to your presumption, I wouldnтАЩt interrupt what you have to say, but I would challenge anything I donтАЩt agree with. I hope those ground rules would be acceptable.
Disagree - Nikki Haley is not who I would choose overall over Vivek BUT I found her to be very poised, with seriousness and polish and she made some excellent points about foreign policy. She is not obsessed with Ukraine and she is not a screecher, hysterical, etc. In fact, as much as I like Vivek, she had the most clear and and effective manner and communication style up there. For her, experience has made her a polished candidate who could show up anywhere on the world stage. Her positions and policies are something different, but it's not fair to characterize her as out of control. Not at all. I like Vivek, but he doesn't have this advantage yet.
Great assessment of Haley and Pence. Well-done. The Seventies called and wants its "If you want something done, ask a woman" back.
On Ukraine, though. Not that I want to fight a bloody and endless war in Ukraine that is costing us billions of dollars. However, if we acquiesce to Vivek's vision of "let Putin have Ukraine," along with "let China have Taiwan" and withdraw, the bullying will be seen to have worked, and encourage others to have at it. That will destroy the relative peace the West has enjoyed since World Wars I and II.
Simply put, we and the rest of the West decided in the wake of WWII that neighbors will not be allowed to brutally invade and conquer neighbors, because once that shit starts fresh, Europe goes medieval again and millions more die as a result. We have a vested interest in making sure that doesn't happen.
That's why I support helping Ukraine kick Putin back to Moscow. I certainly could live with--and would encourage--a Putin-Zelensky agreement that cedes the most Russian-centric zone of eastern Ukraine to Russia in exchange for a peace treaty. I just can't fathom telling Putin, "This car's all yours, pal, be sure to change the plates to your own state."
Why is it that when someone questions our involvement with Ukraine, the answer is we either spend those billions in defense aid or тАЬlet Putin have UkraineтАЭ? Why canтАЩt we pressure both sides to the negotiating table?
If you say the only acceptable solution is for Russia to give back all the land itтАЩs seized and just pack up and go, then you are not serious about ending a conflict that is ravaging a country and further calcifying the relationship between two U.S. adversaries. Why would Russia ever come to the negotiating table let alone accept those terms, especially if they are winning on the ground? Why wouldnтАЩt they just say forget it, we can occupy parts of Ukraine and keep the West embroiled in this for years? What do we do then?
Um, I specifically said I would be happy for a deal in which Russia becomes sovereign over Russia-centric Ukraine. That would be the Donbas, Crimea, and a narrow land bridge connecting the two. Even though defending Ukraine is the moral and right thing to do, I'd rather NOT spend a trillion of our hard-earned dollars if there's another way. That would be Z giving away the part of Eastern Ukraine that has caused him nothing but trouble for years. Those folks want to be Russian, let them; Z is well rid of them.
In exchange for having to bow to a marauder, Z becomes free to join the EU and NATO. Putin's "fear" of NATO missiles in Ukraine is bullshit. NATO missiles are a few minutes' flight time from all the other NATO countries on Russia's border now. Putting more in Ukraine would make zero difference. Besides, that would be unnecessary. if Ukraine becomes part of NATO, an attack on one is an attack on all, and missiles from Poland will get to Moscow just as fast.
If Putin demands more than that, and you're good with it, then you're not actually serious about ending this conflict, are you?
What about a deal in which Russia gives back all territory (less Crimea), but NATO membership is off the table for Ukraine?
FWIW, regarding being serious about ending the conflict, I was referring to the pundits who basically want Russia to admit defeat and retreat with nothing in hand. ThatтАЩs not how negotiations work.
Thanks for clarifying you weren't talking about me but the pundits, Brad. I agree--that's not how negotiations work. Except for global-shattering evils like Nazism, where defeat without mercy or negotiations need to be imposed, war is politics by other means and negotiations are crucial to ending them. If neither Putin nor Z will budge, the West must insist. It's their lives but our money, and both are important to conserve.
Me, I'd happily accept any deal the two of them cook up--NATO, no NATO, trade land for vodka, whatever. As long as they settle this mess, I'm good.
That said, we know what's important to Zelenskyy: getting his land back, and eventual NATO membership. We don't know what Putin really wants: the land he took, the rest of Ukraine, keeping Ukraine out of NATO not for practical reasons but keeping a stick in the West's eye, or all three.
I believe Z and P are best off by letting Russia keep what it took--Donbas, Crimea, and the land bridge--in exchange for a peace and border treaty and NATO membership. Putin claims victory because he controls land filled with Russian patriots, and keeps the port and land bridge to Crimea. Major victories in reality. Z claims victory because he rids Ukraine of people who hated being Ukrainian, and he joins the West through EU and NATO.
They both have to be able to claim major victory in order to end this through negotiations; otherwise, blood and treasure continue to soak the countryside.
I agree: the West must insist on a deal. Not sure that we can тАЬforceтАЭ Putin to the table, but I donтАЩt think Z is in a position to say no since he canтАЩt really let the war continue without western support. I think he was pushing off negotiations and perhaps hedging on more direct involvement from the West, but given that the counter-offensive has failed, not sure he can refuse.
As for the deal terms, agree. IтАЩm not sold that NATO membership isnтАЩt a dealbreaker, but if Putin really cares more about the territorial gains then so be it.
Sorry maybe should have put "screeched" in quote marks. Just repeating the commenter's own characterization, not stating I agreed with it. Pence had bombast I guess is what I was trying to convey.
WasnтАЩt the question about whether they would be against sending more aid to Ukraine? Desantis said that Europe has to step up but Vivek directly raised his hand as a тАЬNo more aidтАЭ.
That was my recollection. Vivek had his hand high in the air, which prompted the moderator to ask him for his opinion why first..... DeSantis sort of did a look-then-go halfway hand raise. Then mumbled something about Europe paying their share......
"Former president Trump has been indicted in four different states [DC not a state] on 91 counts. He will be will be processed tomorrow at the Fulton County jail for charges relating to the 2020 election laws."
Bret:
"You all signed a pledge to support the eventual republican nominee. If former president Trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice? Please raise your hand if you would."
I noticed that too..... and clearly DeSantis was looking around for clues then raised his hand halfway. Vivek did a great job portraying how the rest of the candidates really are business as usual politicians who will enact zero change. Now he needs to own up to the stupid 9/11 comment, bury that, and move on to garner all of this momentum. If he leaves that out there for another 24 hours, MSM will hammer him for a year on it....тАЭThis guy thinks 9/11 was a government plot, etc, etc.тАЭ.
There are three groups of people with regard to 9/11: those who have spent zero time studying the scientific evidence of controlled implosion, which is irrefutable with regard to at least Tower 7 (which they also dont know about; those who HAVE studied the evidence and reached the only defensible conclusion, which is that this was a very large and complex conspiracy, and that at least some parts of our government lied to us; and the people who DID it.
47 Story skyscrapers do not collapse at near freefall velocity straight down because the curtains and a few file cabinets are on fire.
The core purpose of social conditioning has obviously been achieved when people demand to be told what they just saw. Criminals, equally obviously, are only too happy to comply.
I watched CNN after the debate, just to see the other side. They were surprisingly not terrible and actually made a few valid points. At least that was my take for the 10 minutes I gave it. I won't touch the demon spawn at MSNBC.
Maybe it's just me but I understood his 9/11 comment to be an analogy to January 6, saying that if there were federal agents on board the flights, we would have a right to know, just as we have a right to know if (as if it's in doubt) there were federal agents in the J6 crowd. And I think overall anyone who believes, after the last 7 years at minimum, that we the public get the whole story from the government about any topic, especially one that precipitated decades of war and the Patriot Act, is na├пve at best.
Agreed on the overall idea. Unfortunately he went on CNN and aggressively said he was taken out of context by the original journalist, and demanded they release the actual audio. Then when you listen to the audio, he basically said what the journalist said he did. Just a strange mini hill to die on in that situation I thought. Could've been handled better, but overall shouldn't be a big issue. I just wanted him to put it to bed immediately so there's zero reason to talk about it.
Talk about whispering down the lane... Having watched Vivek address this issue during an interview, my understanding is that the involvement of the Saudi government has been suppressed by our government. This has directly affected the families of 9/11 victims suing the Saudi government for damages. In todays world of government complicity in censorship, propaganda and classifying everything remotely embarrassing to the deep state as "top secret", I share his concerns.
Exactly. Anyone who has bothered to look into Vivek's concerns about 9/11 knows that he isn't a 'Truther.' What he wants to know is what the involvement of the Saudis was. And that is a legitimate question, considering that the plot was hatched and carried out largely by Saudi citizens (if they can be called citizens; aren't they more like subjects?). The speed with which the Bush Administration shielded the Saudis was deeply worrisome to me at the time.
I have no doubt the Saudi government is up to its eyeballs in 9/11. That said, Vivek is an idiot to pursue 9/11 Trutherism. One can want complete transparency on the Saudi role without thinking 9/11 was some plot hatched by federal agents to Steal our Precious Bodily Fluids.
Good points, Timothy. Anyone who thinks we ever got the full story on 9/11 is in dreamland. Maybe it is not politically smart for Vivek to bring this up, but it needs saying, by somebody.
Vivek has the skills to overcome the 9/11 item. Besides, he isn't in a fight for the general election.
He has to win over more in his party. And no one articulates the reality of the woke ideology better than Vivek. El Salvador's president, Nayib Ortez, has done a remarkable job and he is about Vivek's age. I understand this is a poor parallel, but there are a very few individuals who can perform at the highest level even when relatively very young. Go Vivek!
Our founders were in their 20s or 30s. They came up with the Declaration, our fabulous constitution and form of government at ages less than Viveks. They were not "rookies."
Do you really think for an instant we will get any truth out of this government? The same government that hid the involvement of the USG in the Kennedy assassinations? Please...
IтАЩm in the same boat. I like Vivek but his position on the vaccine is troubling. HeтАЩs against mandates, but he made his drug development, and I think heтАЩs in with big pharma. But I prefer him to trump, who is way too old and weighed down for my taste. Need new blood.
Forget the "Big Pharma" line! That's a Dem talking point and you are feeding into it. Yes. the pharmaceutical industry is in it for the profits, but what about the "Big Unions", and "Big Law"? Are you not concerned that those with the deepest pockets are influencing your vote? Look at their goals, to gain more power over government policy that negates your REAL concerns! See the enemy for what they are, not what the latest media hit pieces say!
Erin a bit naive at this point Robert, and also sounds a bit young. Everybody grows up eventually however, we still got to make the correct choices for 2024.
I heard him say on a podcast he picked up drugs that the Big Pharma was not interested in. I think he said five have received FDA clearance. His words.
I'm not sure what the "BIG " Deal is here- Big Pharma needs a huge ROI on the drugs they bring to market- they do an analysis during their research and then they determine if its worth pursuing. If not, the research becomes open to someone else. And there's a smaller market for that. Don't see a conflict.
It's like saying there's something "suspect " about me, if I happen to take a drug made by "Big Pharma"? Lol
Problem is, addiction occurs even when you don't misuse.
Oxy, and even more with Fentanyl, is so potent that even people taking them under medical supervision become hooked. Sometimes after a few days, sometimes after just a few doses, bam, addicted.
Killing the severe pain for which these drugs were designed makes the reward worth the risk in many cases, but "misuse" is not even the primary reason so many millions became addicted. It's the nature of drugs that are hundreds or thousands times more powerful than morphine.
There's a reason the narco cartels sprinkle fentanyl into their bags of weed. the additive creates addicts who'd kill grandma for just one more reefer, and instantly. My wife needed fentanyl in her final days of metastatic cancer. Once, I accidentally touched a patch with one ungloved finger. My brain went cloudy, and my sisters, who were with me in her final days, saw me stagger. One little touch.
The case was against the Sackler family, the doctors and Curtis Lewis who worked for the FDA who passed the approval of the drug and then promptly went to work for Purdue. Watch Painkiller on Netflix itтАЩs quite good.IтАЩm in agreement with you about the people abuse, what worries me is the free flow of Fentanyl coming across our southern border from Mexico distributed by China to kill Americans. Nobody is doing anything about that. SF distributes free needles and safe places to shoot up just one of the big cities affected by this terror, least of all the current Democrat administration. I think we need new leadership to deal with America, not leadership that is more interested in a foreign war then тАЬUSтАЭ.
My understanding is he picked up failed drugs and ran new studies in them that also mostly failed. But he made money along the way. He has a very snake oil salesman feel.
Ohhh... I didn't watch the debates, but sounds like Vivek might be the new top candidate. Who's in with Big Pharma? Hmmm... I may write an article called "why voting for the lesser of two evils is STILL evil"
I share some of those sentiments here, because I see some struggling with voting
Actually, there is a word for "voting for the lesser of two evils"--democracy. The whole process is way less frustrating when viewed through that lens, at least it is to me.
I think trying to see political choices as a choice among evils is theologically mistaken. Jesus isn't running. We must always vote for the best imperfect candidate. Some years the options are simply better than others.
Correct. A greater sense of our history would help with a better objectivity. There is no perfect candidate. What matters is the survival of the Republic and the Constitution. The DNC is controlled by a band of international financial grifters. If the Republic and the Constitution stand, no matter what, so shall we.
Agree. Love Trump but at almost 80, it's time for someone new.
Nah the sunset is not enough. I wish Trump all the best health but things won't change for the better for the republican party until he heads off to the big Mar-a-Lago in the sky.
Ben, Vivek hasnтАЩt done a thing until he confronts the man he wants to replace, Donald himself. Vivek (2.0) has to defeat Trump (1.0) - and in order to do that he has to tell the MAGA lytes that he can do better than Trump and he has to say why he can by indicating where Trump went wrong. Until he does that, I wonтАЩt be convinced heтАЩs a serious candidate. Vivek has been walking on eggshells trying not to upset TrumpтАЩs base - but in order to win, he has to go there and call a spade a spade. Maybe heтАЩs hoping the indictments will do all that dirty work for him..
Yes Ben. VR is what the country needs. His non-political resume and previous anonymity allow him to say what he thinks. As voters get to know him let's hope they realize perfection doesn't exist.
Perfection doesn't exist but experience does, and he has none. That didn't work out too well with 45.
Experience (political) cuts both ways. Our current national pols are very experienced and disgustingly inept, corrupt and out of touch.
That's a different type of experience and has nothing to do with running a country.
Disagree. Those running the country have the experience and are not doing it well. Experience is only one trait. Courage, intelligence, understanding human nature and history are as, if not more, important.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I have all the traits you mention, plus very experienced in my profession, and that doesn't qualify me to be the President.
You may be surprised! Yes, we'll agree to disagree.
No, I'm not surprised, you seem like a reasonable person and you don't rant and rave and insist you're right.
What I meant is that you might be surprised at just how well the traits I mentioned would position you to lead the country.
I understand that. I don't think that you mean "you" as in me. A universal "you"
Or. And stay with me here. The Media wants to see Vivek (and Trump) further divide the GOP to ensure a Biden 2024 re-election. Neither candidate can win a general election but what they can do is generate lots of ad-revenue for the Media.
Well to be fair, I want to see RFK, Jr. split the Democrats.
YES, Lynn thisЁЯСЖ
I could go for that, Steven! Just please NO MORE Biden!
I have mixed feelings about that. One, I do not care for political dynasties. Two Iam troubled by the junkie thing. I have dealt with some heroin addicts and IMO they are permanently altered people. That being said, never say never.
Time for both Trump and Biden to be done.
https://open.substack.com/pub/joelelorentzen/p/noblesse-oblige?r=1p5p1m&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
My first thought after seeing the hype that Vivek is bringing is:
"Is Vivek the new Obama? Young, hip, cool guy. Coming outta nowhere, with big money behind him?"
Hmm... I'll be looking into this. https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/
He doesnтАЩt rely on тАЬbig moneyтАЭ, if by that you mean wealthy donors. HeтАЩs spending his own money, which he has a lot of. He was a precocious venture capitalist who has done well for himself as the founder of several companies, especially Roivant Sciences, a biotech company that acquired several FDA patents before he sold his shares.
IтАЩm neither defending nor rejecting him, but itтАЩs obvious that the liberal media now lies about him incessantly, because thatтАЩs how they roll. I recommend doing your own research and maybe reading his book, Woke, Inc., which I found instructive, if a little over my head in the venture capitalism department.
Beeswax, I am for him, tho I donтАЩt think he has a chance in this upcoming election.
I think you're probably right.
Isn't it his big money, not big donors with money?
To this point, a bulk of Vivek's funding has been self funding. I like Ramaswamy and Haley. Vivek seems to rely too much on prepared talking points, while Nikki seems to be able to speak off the cuff on most subjects. They both bring very different skill sets to the table. At this point, I would like to see a Haley/Ramaswamy ticket.
M Palmer, agree. IsnтАЩt the difference btw them is politician vs not a politician, yet.
My impression of Vivek was less favorable. He has no experience in government at all, and experience counts in every profession. He insinuated that the other candidates were all "on the take" or in the pocket of special interests, which was baseless and unnecessarily insulting. We already have a candidate who specializes in baseless attacks. He seems to be bristling with ideas, but I doubt he would be able to enact much when he runs into Washington realities. And most of his substantive ideas are shared by the other candidates. He's glib, too. Christie's remark about Vivek being like Obama hit home with me.
Big Noise, do you really believe those on stage with Vivek havenтАЩt benefited from merely being politicians?
There are some, I hope, but once elected they all become wealthy and not from their salaries. Plus, with no term limits and unlimited job offers in DC, none are forced to return home to live in the real world of what they help create.
Unless or until Special Interest, PACs, Big Tech, Unions, etc., etc. are stopped, we will continue to have the best politicians money can buy!
Last point. All the money the candidates pull in from donors they get to put in their тАЬWar ChestтАЭ and that should be outlawed, in my humble opinion.
Seems running for office pays well.
I respect Vivek, like Trump, having their own money & arenтАЩt dependent on Big donors. Yet, anyway.
I don't share the belief that they're all crooks, or just in it for money, though many certainly are. DeSantis, for example, has a very low net worth. As a Harvard educated lawyer with a compelling back-story, he would have made far more money with a silk-stocking law firm. And I don't care if a politician makes big dough after his days of public service are over. We can't expect top people to work for BS money. I just don't like them cashing in during their term of service, like Biden or Pelosi or Hillary. There are a lot of ethical rules that could be tightened.
I am okay with glib as long as there is a plan to back it up. Otherwise as much as I like what he has to say, and I do, I think he would be swamp chum in DC. I actually think Trump's lack of experience there is what did him in.
"...swamp chum...". Brilliant!
Good point.
I agree with you. He is like a young Dictator. Very Robotic and no understanding of humans. Right out of a Silicon Valley playbook. I thought he made Nikki Haley shine. She should be the new face of the Republican Party.
I might be wrong but pretty sure trump had no governmental experience before being elected.
At least he has made his own big money. Did Barack ever make his own money in anything other than govt? And I am asking because I wasn't watching politics in the Obama lead up years. So maybe he had a real job outside of govt? I am sure Google would know.
KTon, I posted about this! You are correct about Obama. Like many / most politicians, they get filthy rich from being politicians! We have the best ones money can buy!
Of course, Obama makes megabucks, like the Clintons & others from his invitation only speeches now.
That's on the people who pay to attend. No one forces them too.
Barack Obama worked as an attorney in Chicago for a small left wing law firm for 10 years. Before Tony Rezco gave Obama a sweetheart deal on his home, Rezco was an Obama client. Obama's practice focused on real estate financing of low income housing funded by the government and non-profits. This position was crucial to Obama for forming his political base.
After college, Obama went to Chicago and did work as a community organizer. He had entree to the left from his mentor in Hawaii Frank Marshall Davis, who was the publisher of the Chicago Star and a card carrying Communist. When Obama decided to go to Harvard Law School he set his sights on a political career.
For this information and more, turn to a series of 10 short articles by the Washington Examiner published in 2012 on the early life of Obama. To access, google Bishop Brazier and look for article 4 that focuses on Brazier. That should gain you access to the other nine. Brazier was a left wing activist, mentor and client to Obama. Look at the Woodlawn transactions.
I found these articles because I wanted to know how this young man from Hawaii formed his political base. This series tells you how he did it and it leaves you admiring his political skill.
I read тАЬRadical in ChiefтАЭ, a book that detailed his socialist ties during his early years in Chicago. Also another biography that did a deep dive into his past. No doubt born in Hawaii, but very likely his real father was the commie Frank Marshall Davis. I also have a book jacket bio from the 1990s where he states, тАЬborn in KenyaтАЭ. So Obama himself invented that lie early in life to increase his social cache. I remember the hilarious explanations that were offered to explain that book jacket bio during his campaign---oh, some confused copy editor wrote it, no one caught it. Uh huh.
Yep. Nuts and bolts.
he made his money by writing books. He taught at Chicago Univ. and was a community organizer. He was a poor President.
The books were very mediocre at best and were in essence the pay off for being the perfect Democrat lap-dog.
Did you read them? I read the first one and sent him an email saying I hope you are what you say you are. The response was; send money. I didn't vote for him.
I read some excerpts. I saw nothing that made me want to read further. But that is sad that your genuine feedback was used to solicit money. My email, and sometimes texts, are filled with beggars. I consider that bad behavior and I learned long ago not to reward bad behavior. ;)
I had the same response from Scott. With Christie you have to go to his facebook page to leave a message and get no response. They all suck.
Obama was "was a community organizer"
That's what he was called by his disciples. In truth, he was nothing but a community agitator.
Not anymore! I would like to see presidents generating money for the middle class and not ending up rambling around mega-mansions.
I agree, and how would they do that?
Obama once worked at an ice cream shop. So thereтАЩs that.
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I heard his favorite flavor was chocolate chip
Cash only ice cream shop? Ha ha ha
ThereтАЩs no comparison. Obama was an empty suit of zero accomplishments. He fulfilled the leftтАЩs need for a black president. All the dirt dug up on him meant nothing, he was the leftтАЩs black Jesus.
Vivek has lots of ideas, some controversial, but heтАЩs unafraid. We need something new. We need to get past Trump. I like the fact that Vivek acknowledges TrumpтАЩs accomplishments but then says, heтАЩs 80. LetтАЩs move on.
NC Maureen- YEP! The DNC Marketed Obama almost as much as The Govt Marketed the Covid Vax!!!
Vivek is being supported by NO Inside or Outside Interests. $15 Mil of his own money to start and " so far" all Small donor and no SuperPacs.
Agree, MCMaureen! Obama had NEVER built a company or ran a business. Lawyer, yes, (Harvard Law School), but his claim to fame was mostly тАЬCommunity OrganizerтАЭ Plus, a great orator!
Vivek Ramaswamy also has a J.D. from Yale Law School (BA from Harvard), and is a great orator! Unlike Obama, BEFORE becoming President, Vivek is an entrepreneur in his own right.
Forbes list VivekтАЩs net worth at around $1 Billion (last weekтАЩs report), so he is not тАЬbeholden to Big DonorsтАЭ like Obama was. And Obama, like most politicians, got his wealth (became rich) off being a politician.
Also, Dr. Apoorva Ramaswamy, VivekтАЩs wife, is a тАЬdoctor of medicineтАЭ (Yale School of Medicine), resident physician at NY Presbyterian Hospital - Columbia and Cornel. Currently, sheтАЩs an assistant professor in the Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery at Ohio State University. SheтАЩs also mother to two small children, and a very hands on, involved mother, as Vivek is a father.
In my humble opinion, Jill Biden (doctorate in education University of Delaware 2007), being referred to (mostly SINCE becoming 1st Lady) as тАЬDr. JillтАЭ is a bit misleading and a far cry from тАЬDr. Apoorva Ramaswamy.
Please, before ANY criticism, I absolutely give Jill Biden credit where credit is due! However, I have many friends AND relatives who have multiple Master Degrees along with their Ph.D. (My sister in law has two from University of Rhode Island, in English Literature and Philosophy), getting those while raising a toddler and being pregnant. SheтАЩs also a registered nurse, practicing when not lecturing in college).
Literally NONE of them go by тАЬDr.тАЭ but certainly Ph. D. is ALWAYS noted after their names. Even my s-i-l has her students call her Ms., Mrs. or by her given name. She certainly could be called Dr. if she chooses.
Would it be acceptable to use тАЬDr.тАЭ when being introduced? Absolutely, of course, and well deserved, but most will clarify with, тАЬPlease donтАЩt, else IтАЩll be asked where I practice medicine, and I canтАЩt deliver your baby or stitch your cutтАЭ followed with a laugh! So, I mean nothing derogatory or demeaning toward Jill Biden, Ed.D., doctorate in education.
If we are comparing and contrasting the two men, letтАЩs look at their names. Barack Hussein Obama decided to use his African name, by his own admission, while at Occidental College, a predominantly white liberal arts college. Saying that тАЬgave rise to awakening from a slumber of indifference and to his activismтАЭ and that тАЬhe wanted to reinvent himself in a more grownup wayтАЭ Until then, being raised by his White mother & Grand parents, he was Barry Soetoro (Soetoro being his stepfatherтАЩs last name).
Also, he admits he enjoyed AND inhaled marijuana, alcohol and sometimes тАЬgetting high on cocaineтАЭ but realized his тАЬfear of becoming addicted, like so many other Black menтАЭ. He did and does still smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol, like many others!
Note: ironically, it was Hillary Clinton who brought up ObamaтАЩs drug use, when she was his chief Democrat rival, saying it would make him тАЬvulnerable to Republican attacks if he became the partyтАЩs nomineeтАЭ. Gotta love Hillary (the pot calling the kettle black)! Kinda like Kamala calling out Biden as a racist BEFORE being chosen as his VP.
Vivek Ramaswamy, like Obama, is also a тАЬman of ColorтАЭ Tho, like ALL Conservative people of Color, the Democrats refer to them as тАЬWhite Supremacist People of ColorтАЭ & Democrats wonтАЩt acknowledge VivekтАЩs race, because thatтАЩs only reserved for Blacks.
There is a lot of negative views of Vivek Ramaswamy from both Left & Right, but no mention, yet, of early drug use, or changing his name to help his image. Born and raised by Hindu parents, in Ohio & attending a Catholic High School, heтАЩs not from a broken home or blended family. He was raised with a strong emphasis on education, developing a moral compass and work ethic. None of which will be viewed as benefit to him in this Presidential race, or Politics. Duh!
I donтАЩt think he has a chance of becoming our President, but I would vote for him in a heartbeat over Biden, Kamala (Heaven forbid), Newsom OR Trump. (Sorry Trump supporters, but I fear the ever growing divide in our Country will only widen if Biden OR Trump become President, again! Their supporters are too angry!)
Lastly, Vivek is being ridiculed as naive, too young, NOT A Politician (that right there earns my vote!), etc. Plus, he does believe there are some тАЬcontroversial drugsтАЭ he thinks should not be denied to VetтАЩs with PTSD, as well as some mentally ill patients.
Sorry for my TOO LONG post today! Now, on to prepare for the next Government shutdown crisis, since we have an election in the near future!
Great insight! Thank you. Agree 100%
We don't need a brand new car we need reliable transportation.
Best line of the whole thread, Mike, and so true.
I want a president who gets America from A to B on time, within budget, with genuine warmth and humor, and when the occasional emergency derails the train, he or she knows how to mutter, "Aw, hells, that sucks," roll up his or her sleeves, and put it back on track without social media melodrama.
I'm not sure about the warmth part, but DeSantis seems to check your other boxes. He has governed through hurricanes and pandemics and taken a LOT of *&^*&^ thrown his way and he does not care.
Sounds very reasonable- we just want to go from A to B. The problem is in the details of exactly what are A and B?
On such details mighty thunderliners derail and plunge into the river far below.
Yes, Shane, but WHO is that??
Right now, nobody on either side. I don't know that somebody that qualified to be our president would ever run for the job. Presidents have to take vast oceans of crap from everyone on everything--"I cured cancer!" "Yeah, dipshit, what about my hemorrhoids, huh, you worthless POS!"--and have little power without Congress on his or her side.
Who of any genuine worth would want such a job? It's why we get Biden vs. Trump instead of Jesus vs. Moses.
Well said, Shane!
Thanks, Honey, much appreciated :-)
ThatтАЩs Ron DeSantis. Period. Get over the personality issue. He can plow through the bs and knows how to get stuff done without having tantrums and his political opponents trying to toss him in jail.
You canтАЩt run a country with constant impeachments and indictments from. Your enemies. ItтАЩs not fair, but itтАЩs reality.
Sure, DeSantis gets stuff done. But Mussolini made the trains run on time and I think as little of his policies as I do those of DeSantis. Add the sour personality and he's a no-fly zone.
I call the Golfer in Chief, the messiah because that is what all the glassy eyed, chin drooling left thought he was.
You are right he was an empty suit and a racist to boot.
He and his wife.
Yip she was a big part of the gaslight!
"He fulfilled the left's need for a black president."
Well, guess they also defeated your need to make sure there never would never be a black president.
A word to the wise. Don't post proof of your severe Psychosis / Schizophrenia online. Quotes from Comprof2.0.
"Easiest non-white immigration experience ever!" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"Easiest non-white immigration experience in American history" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
тАЬA 2-4 year stint living on a military baseтАЭ (referring to the internment camps that some Japanese-Americans were sent to)
тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
"Yes. Easiest. Can you tell me of any other group that had an easier immigration experience?" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"I've explained the tremendous advantages given to J-A immigrants over all others"
тАЬpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩтАЭ
I wrote
тАЬSaying crazy stuff (тАШpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩ)
Vivid hallucinations (тАШONE GROUPтАЩ)
Delusions of grandeur (тАШYou're buriedтАЩ)
Blaming others (тАШupsetтАЩ)
These are all classic symptoms of Schizophrenia. See help ASAP.тАЭ
The mental health links below might help you. You badly need them.
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm
https://nursinglicensemap.com/resources/mental-health-resources/
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
My advice. Don't wear your insanity on your shirtsleeve. See help ASAP. You need it.
No, Peter. Let's keep going. I can do this all year.
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
The article gave you the answers to all that California success you were crowing about, didn't it? So, you've been buried and owned.
You overdosed on Xanax, so when it comes to giving others mental health recommendations, you should probably shut the f-ck up. My advice.
Actually, I don't care what color he was, I just wish Obama had had better ideas rather than the ones he had. He did not improve life for anyone except himself and his family. He inflamed racism and made it worse when he should have been working for reconciliation. He did not leave the country a better place when he left it.
Lol!! There's another classic.
"Inflamed racism"
Yeah, we were all living in a racial Kumbaya until Obama came along with his radical, Nat X, black nationalists ideology.
Yes, this magical, mythical "reconciliation" that no one was interested in until Obama got elected. Lol.
Please share how you think Obama "inflamed racism" and blocked "reconciliation."
A word to the wise. Don't post proof of your severe Psychosis / Schizophrenia online. Quotes from Comprof2.0.
"Easiest non-white immigration experience ever!" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"Easiest non-white immigration experience in American history" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
тАЬA 2-4 year stint living on a military baseтАЭ (referring to the internment camps that some Japanese-Americans were sent to)
тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
"Yes. Easiest. Can you tell me of any other group that had an easier immigration experience?" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"I've explained the tremendous advantages given to J-A immigrants over all others"
тАЬpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩтАЭ
I wrote
тАЬSaying crazy stuff (тАШpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩ)
Vivid hallucinations (тАШONE GROUPтАЩ)
Delusions of grandeur (тАШYou're buriedтАЩ)
Blaming others (тАШupsetтАЩ)
These are all classic symptoms of Schizophrenia. See help ASAP.тАЭ
The mental health links below might help you. You badly need them.
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm
https://nursinglicensemap.com/resources/mental-health-resources/
Thank you, Peter. тАЬMustnтАЩt feed the trollтАЭ to quote Lynn
Peter Schaeffer, by his own admission, overdosed on Xanax.
Pick better heroes.
I made the mistake of interacting with Comprof2.0 some time ago. Comprof2.0 said all of sorts of very crazy things. Now I am just repeating them. Toward the end of the interaction I realized that I was making a mistake. I was responding factually. After a while, I realized that the real issue was sanity. Since then I have tried to fix my mistake.
You overdosed on Xanax. Last person to talk about sanity.
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
My advice. Don't wear your insanity on your shirtsleeve. See help ASAP. You need it.
No, Peter. Let's keep going. I can do this all year.
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
The article gave you the answers to all that California success you were crowing about, didn't it? So, you've been buried and owned.
You overdosed on Xanax, so when it comes to giving others mental health recommendations, you should probably shut the f-ck up. My advice.
You are so transparent as to becoming invisible!
But still you make him visible by acknowledging his comment, lol
Transparent? Why?
Because I responded perfectly accurately to an assertion/comment?
No. What is "transparent" is that every time someone complains about "People only voted for Obama because he was black, etc."
You can be sure that is 100% the same reason they didn't vote for him. ;)
A word to the wise. Don't post proof of your severe Psychosis / Schizophrenia online. Quotes from Comprof2.0.
"Easiest non-white immigration experience ever!" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"Easiest non-white immigration experience in American history" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
тАЬA 2-4 year stint living on a military baseтАЭ (referring to the internment camps that some Japanese-Americans were sent to)
тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
"Yes. Easiest. Can you tell me of any other group that had an easier immigration experience?" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"I've explained the tremendous advantages given to J-A immigrants over all others"
тАЬpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩтАЭ
I wrote
тАЬSaying crazy stuff (тАШpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩ)
Vivid hallucinations (тАШONE GROUPтАЩ)
Delusions of grandeur (тАШYou're buriedтАЩ)
Blaming others (тАШupsetтАЩ)
These are all classic symptoms of Schizophrenia. See help ASAP.тАЭ
The mental health links below might help you. You badly need them.
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm
https://nursinglicensemap.com/resources/mental-health-resources/
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
My advice. Don't wear your insanity on your shirtsleeve. See help ASAP. You need it.
No, Peter. Let's keep going. I can do this all year.
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
The article gave you the answers to all that California success you were crowing about, didn't it? So, you've been buried and owned.
You overdosed on Xanax, so when it comes to giving others mental health recommendations, you should probably shut the f-ck up. My advice.
That's not what it means at all. It means: that was the main reason why many on the left voted for him.
Katharina I truly admire both your sincerity and generosity of spirit, but please do not feed the troll. I am convinced it is someone's AI plaything. And if it is indeed a human I visualize it sitting at its keyboard in a pointy hat, with a pointy chin and nose, green cast to its skin, with it's clawlike fingers poised over its keyboard whispering to itself "[C]ome my pretties. Please come my pretties."
IтАЩm wondering if 2.0 is a TFP intern, paid to troll us and gin up something interesting in the Comments. I always come here with my coffee in the morning but itтАЩs getting boring and sounding like an echo chamber.
You may be on to something there.
Yip apt description.
Of course when he was Barry Sotero the black part was kept in the closet. Obama and his errand boy CompFraud are empty suits. The former we are stuck with try not to give the latter attention.
And it was the main reason many on the right did not vote for him, Katharina.
So, once again, whenever anyone says "people only voted for Obama because he was black." You can be 100% sure that the same "blackness" is why they didn't vote for him.
So, that is EXACTLY what it means.
Lol. Yeah, the "the left" only voted based on his race - not becausr of ideas, party affiliation, etc. while the "right" didn't vote for him because of their deep, well-considered, in-depth analysis of foreign and domestic policy.
Yeah....right.
My advice. Don't wear your insanity on your shirtsleeve. See help ASAP. You need it.
No, Peter. Let's keep going. I can do this all year.
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
The article gave you the answers to all that California success you were crowing about, didn't it? So, you've been buried and owned.
You overdosed on Xanax, so when it comes to giving others mental health recommendations, you should probably shut the f-ck up. My advice.
A word to the wise. Don't post proof of your severe Psychosis / Schizophrenia online. Quotes from Comprof2.0.
"Easiest non-white immigration experience ever!" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"Easiest non-white immigration experience in American history" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
тАЬA 2-4 year stint living on a military baseтАЭ (referring to the internment camps that some Japanese-Americans were sent to)
тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
"Yes. Easiest. Can you tell me of any other group that had an easier immigration experience?" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"I've explained the tremendous advantages given to J-A immigrants over all others"
тАЬpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩтАЭ
I wrote
тАЬSaying crazy stuff (тАШpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩ)
Vivid hallucinations (тАШONE GROUPтАЩ)
Delusions of grandeur (тАШYou're buriedтАЩ)
Blaming others (тАШupsetтАЩ)
These are all classic symptoms of Schizophrenia. See help ASAP.тАЭ
The mental health links below might help you. You badly need them.
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm
https://nursinglicensemap.com/resources/mental-health-resources/
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
My advice. Don't wear your insanity on your shirtsleeve. See help ASAP. You need it.
Risible rubbish. I'm sure there were some people who refused to support Obama because if his race, but not "many." Every one of the thousands of conservatives I know would enthusiastically support Tim Scott if he secures the nomination. It is about ideas, not race.
"Some" Lol. Nope. Data shows otherwise.
Whenever someone leads with, "Obama only got elected/got votes because he was black." You can be 100% certain that's the same reason they didn't vote for him.
Good luck with your "thousands of conservatives you know." Not enough. Tim Scott is DOA.
Hopefully, he learned his lesson when he expressed an opinion about FL education standards re: slavery :)
A word to the wise. Don't post proof of your severe Psychosis / Schizophrenia online. Quotes from Comprof2.0.
"Easiest non-white immigration experience ever!" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"Easiest non-white immigration experience in American history" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
тАЬA 2-4 year stint living on a military baseтАЭ (referring to the internment camps that some Japanese-Americans were sent to)
тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
"Yes. Easiest. Can you tell me of any other group that had an easier immigration experience?" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"I've explained the tremendous advantages given to J-A immigrants over all others"
тАЬpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩтАЭ
I wrote
тАЬSaying crazy stuff (тАШpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩ)
Vivid hallucinations (тАШONE GROUPтАЩ)
Delusions of grandeur (тАШYou're buriedтАЩ)
Blaming others (тАШupsetтАЩ)
These are all classic symptoms of Schizophrenia. See help ASAP.тАЭ
The mental health links below might help you. You badly need them.
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm
https://nursinglicensemap.com/resources/mental-health-resources/
That is some mighty powerful data, and I'm sure you will be delighted to share it.
Scott fumbled his FL statement because, like you apparently, he naively believed the media reports.
No, I refused to vote for him because his ideas were so bad. Now the proof is in the pudding. As I said above, he didn't leave the country a better place.
Good. As long as you extend that same understanding to the other side.
As for me, I didn't/don't see how things were so much worse off, overall, pretty bland POTUS.
But please share the pre-election ideas that you thought were so bad, because I remember them being pretty standard.
My advice. Don't wear your insanity on your shirtsleeve. See help ASAP. You need it.
A word to the wise. Don't post proof of your severe Psychosis / Schizophrenia online. Quotes from Comprof2.0.
"Easiest non-white immigration experience ever!" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"Easiest non-white immigration experience in American history" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
тАЬA 2-4 year stint living on a military baseтАЭ (referring to the internment camps that some Japanese-Americans were sent to)
тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
"Yes. Easiest. Can you tell me of any other group that had an easier immigration experience?" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"I've explained the tremendous advantages given to J-A immigrants over all others"
тАЬpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩтАЭ
I wrote
тАЬSaying crazy stuff (тАШpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩ)
Vivid hallucinations (тАШONE GROUPтАЩ)
Delusions of grandeur (тАШYou're buriedтАЩ)
Blaming others (тАШupsetтАЩ)
These are all classic symptoms of Schizophrenia. See help ASAP.тАЭ
The mental health links below might help you. You badly need them.
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm
https://nursinglicensemap.com/resources/mental-health-resources/
YouтАЩre 100% right about that. I know a lot of people (тАЬfriendsтАЭ family, co workers) who expressed that sentiment explicitly. Some of them even used a different term than тАЬblackтАЭ.
Now IтАЩm not saying that everyone who voted against Obama is racists but IтАЩm definitely saying the racists voted against Obama
Yep. Exactly.Of course people voted against him for different reasons, but whenever someone leads with "he only got elected/got votes because he was black" You can be 100% certain that his ethnicity/race is the reason THEY didn't vote for him.
A word to the wise. Don't post proof of your severe Psychosis / Schizophrenia online. Quotes from Comprof2.0.
"Easiest non-white immigration experience ever!" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"Easiest non-white immigration experience in American history" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
тАЬA 2-4 year stint living on a military baseтАЭ (referring to the internment camps that some Japanese-Americans were sent to)
тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
"Yes. Easiest. Can you tell me of any other group that had an easier immigration experience?" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"I've explained the tremendous advantages given to J-A immigrants over all others"
тАЬpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩтАЭ
I wrote
тАЬSaying crazy stuff (тАШpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩ)
Vivid hallucinations (тАШONE GROUPтАЩ)
Delusions of grandeur (тАШYou're buriedтАЩ)
Blaming others (тАШupsetтАЩ)
These are all classic symptoms of Schizophrenia. See help ASAP.тАЭ
The mental health links below might help you. You badly need them.
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm
https://nursinglicensemap.com/resources/mental-health-resources/
He is invisible.
Lol. Then should feel especially pathetic. Owned by an invisible person.
A word to the wise. Don't post proof of your severe Psychosis / Schizophrenia online. Quotes from Comprof2.0.
"Easiest non-white immigration experience ever!" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"Easiest non-white immigration experience in American history" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
тАЬA 2-4 year stint living on a military baseтАЭ (referring to the internment camps that some Japanese-Americans were sent to)
тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
"Yes. Easiest. Can you tell me of any other group that had an easier immigration experience?" (referring to Japanese-Americans)
"I've explained the tremendous advantages given to J-A immigrants over all others"
тАЬpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩтАЭ
I wrote
тАЬSaying crazy stuff (тАШpolice shootings are irrelevantтАЩ)
Vivid hallucinations (тАШONE GROUPтАЩ)
Delusions of grandeur (тАШYou're buriedтАЩ)
Blaming others (тАШupsetтАЩ)
These are all classic symptoms of Schizophrenia. See help ASAP.тАЭ
The mental health links below might help you. You badly need them.
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
https://www.cdc.gov/mentalhealth/tools-resources/index.htm
https://nursinglicensemap.com/resources/mental-health-resources/
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
My advice. Don't wear your insanity on your shirtsleeve. See help ASAP. You need it.
No, Peter. Let's keep going. I can do this all year.
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
The article gave you the answers to all that California success you were crowing about, didn't it? So, you've been buried and owned.
You overdosed on Xanax, so when it comes to giving others mental health recommendations, you should probably shut the f-ck up. My advice.
Big diff is that its his own money. Obama used the presidency to get rich...
Exactly, Chris!
One thing I noticed and admired, when asked a question involving raising a hand, Vivek didnтАЩt first look around and see what the others did. His hand went right up. That says he knows his position and isnтАЩt afraid to say it.
It's good to be decisive but it also shows that he's bull-headed. Many of his ideas are unrealistic and unattainable. A leader needs to listen to his/her advisors and demonstrate a sense of reason. Character matters and I didn't see that in him.
Good observation, NCMaureen.
Vivek was the only one on that stage that articulated the concerns of most everyday Americans. With the exception of DeSantis, the rest of the major players came off as establishment re-treads dutifully parroting their corporate talking points. Paramount among them was the demand that we continue to provide unquestioned financial and military support for a corrupt Ukraine government that is losing its war with Russia. Haley in particular came off as a screeching, unhinged ex-wife. The most comical line was when she accused Vivek of being a foreign policy amateur while ignoring that Ukraine has suffered over 350,000 casualties, an army that is running out of men as the promised spring offensive becomes a nightmare, millions of fleeing citizens and an infrastructure that is being systematically decimated. Anyone old enough to have lived through the Vietnam War knows where policy geniuses like Haley is leading us. Never mind that Russia is stronger militarily and financially today than before the war started and a once unthinkable Russia/China alliance is blossoming before our eyes.
Vivek is offering a vision of hope where the oppressed are freed of their shackles, where the power of self-determination is returned to the people. His historical perspective is correct, that power will not be willingly relinquished any more readily than it was in 1776. The enemy is no longer clad in redcoats, but $1,000 designer suits and their weapon of choice is division and chaos. After last night, I think itтАЩs clear who is on our side.
Seriously, a Harvard/Yale multi-millionaire with zero public service credentials who couldn't even be bothered to participate in our illusion of democracy by voting in recent years...How does such a man offer 'a vision of hope" to the oppressed? I'm truly curious. Because to me he came across as an ego-driven pharma bro.
Well said TK!!
Why is there so little news coverage of this war? The media were all over Vietnam in the тАШ60s and тАШ70s. We are being lied to about Ukraine. If there were great victories why arenтАЩt we seeing them?
тАЬWhy is there so little news coverage of this warтАЭ
You and I both know why Maureen, Ukraine is losing badly. Unlike the Vietnam era, the media has become corporatized and dutifully turns a blind eye. The media, deep state and compliant politicians have chosen to join in an incestuous circle jerk that facilitates perpetual war. Last night exposed the republican participants
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Incestuous circle jerk. Oh my, can I use that?
Seriously though, how can so many people not see through the chest thumping act?
I disagree with this characterization of Ms. Haley. She is not my choice but I thought she did an outstanding job standing up to Vivek, who is my choice, and taking him on without coming across as a bitch. She went toe to toe with him in an inspiring display of skill and strength. Very similar to how she called out Trump back then.
I agree. SheтАЩs not my candidate and she may or may not be corrupt but she IS level-headed and has a reasonable view of how politics actually works. Also, IтАЩll never forget how she stood up and defended the USA fearlessly at the UN. Respect.
Great post!
(That's $5000.00 designer suits Sir.) If this is what the Republican Party is fronting they've lost. I tried to watch the debate and quit about half-way through. I felt no sense of Party cohesion or clarity and I really wanted too. I'm not a Trump guy and would willingly support another candidate, but verbally throwing him under the bus at this point is, win or lose, capitulation to the vipers nest known as the DNC. America is rightfully outraged at the corruption of its DOJ and Judiciary. The candidates should have been united on that. It is indeed time for a generational passing of the political torch but when looking at Ramaswamy I couldn't help thinking of Obama and the old Waylon Jennings line "be careful of something that's just what you want it to be."
For me, it may have been the format and the number of the candidates on the stage, but subscription journalism has allowed Americans to go beyond "sound bite" politics. The American future is on the line. We deserve a better discussion. Europe has entered a dark age. Courts and political systems captured, thought and speech crime arrests and prosecutions, open criminal assault on citizens, billions to house refugees, nothing for its people. It is the intent of DNC/CCP/EU/Davos fascism to bring this Republic to its knees. And they're doing it. We've been hostage to a lie for over a decade now. Our cities are war zones, economy in ruins, the EU/Davos planned flooding of our Continent with illegals well underway. Our children can't read. And, the totalitarian Marxist "woke" D.E.I., which destroys good lives every day of the week, has decided that "we the people" are deplorable terrorists. Eight more years of DNC wicked and it's not going to matter anymore.
We need a candidate that understands the real implications of the Assange/Snowden travesty, the J/6 surveillance state psyop and the in your face corruption of the DNC/DOJ Trump prosecution. The assault on journalism and freedom of speech and saying it like it is, as with Russia Gate, the attempted Banana Republic imprisonment of viable political opposition to steal an election. It's not something else. The fats in the fire and if the DNC stays in power we are all going to burn.
I agree with much of what you say here. But the GOP has ceased to be a serious party. With no platform, denial of climate change, openly hostile to women (a gun effectively has more right in some states) and a clownish, indicted dotard as their chosen "leader," Americans who long for actual, sensible governance remain SOL. I predict the wheels come off the bus this "election" cycle.
Mike R., to your comment about Obama and be careful...I voted for Obama once and Trump twice and yes I was "played" as many of us were, w Obama. But was surprised w Trump- I do not like his "style" ( I am being nice!) But liked his Policies- he Accomplished a Lot despite being new to Washington and being lied to, manipulated, deceived, its surprising he got anything done.
Having said all that, it's time for him to step away - let Vivek lead. I DO feel he is more than capable. Listen to any number of interviews he's done on YouTube:
All In Podcast, Grant Cardone, Bari Weiss ЁЯШЙ & Honestly, Russell Brand. He had ties to no one
The Glenn Greenwald RUMBLE interview with VR was my first look. His focus on the Constitution has my interest. He is certainly saying the right things.
Thank you for this clear articulation of what terrifies so many of us in this moment! I donтАЩt care how much people hate Trump or each other. For all that is good and true in this world, we MUST unite and fight this evil. We can make a stand together, or be enslaved alone.
Mike, I agree with most of what you say! But I would add RINOs to your list of the corrupt.
As far as VivekтАЩs price of suit. HE bought & paid for it, like Trump always has, yet that irks many people. IтАЩm not distracted from his message by that. Like Trump, heтАЩs coming into this fight not as a тАЬpolished politicianтАЭ bought & paid for.
It may not be his time, but we desperately need & deserve better than what we have, or have to choose from.
Wow Mike you are exactly on point in this post. Where to from here, your last sentence says it all - we are going to burn if the Democrats come in again with Joe Biden at the helm. This election is the most important of our lifetime we have got to vote the current rubbish out!
You're hot today, Tim K!
He is!
I don't think Haley came off like that at all. I think she came off well, at least to me. Why do descriptors like "screeching" and "unhinged" have to be applied to the only woman on the panel? Pence screeched a lot too.
Screeching is what I call the high-pitched interruptions that Haley rudely employed in her Ukraine exchange with Vivek. Absent the annoying tonal qualities, Pence's interruptions were just as rude and baseless.
Unhinged is what I call someone who can ignore the gruesome realities I listed above and demand we remain complicit in fighting a lost war that will inevitably end in UkraineтАЩs utter destruction and loss of an entire generation of its men.
I've not seen or heard anything from her that would lead me to believe she will improve the lives of Americans and her Ukraine obsession will only make things worse. The only thing that separates her from candidates like Pence and Christie is a pair of ovaries. Her smug Margaret Thatcher quip, тАЬIf you want something done, ask a womanтАЭ may resonate with some but I think she lost more support last night than she gained.
TK,
I don't know which debate you watched, but in the one I saw Vivek interrupted more than any other candidate on the floor. I came in rooting for Vivek and left disappointed. He's smart, but not smart enough to keep the smirk off his face. His brash arrogance reminded me of an unguided missile. I hope his time will come, but it's not now.
p.s. Those high pitched interruptions you hear around you are called women--most likely women you have interrupted. Call me when you hold men to the same standard you require of Haley.
тАЬCall me when you hold men to the same standard you require of HaleyтАЭ
Perhaps you missed this part of my post тАЬAbsent the annoying tonal qualities, Pence's interruptions were just as rude and baselessтАЭ.
Decorum and delivery aside, itтАЩs HaleyтАЩs foreign policy proscriptions, made obvious in her exchange with Vivek that disqualifies her from my consideration. Ironically, she was part of the Trump administration that managed to restrain Putin and every other authoritarian regime from becoming the boogeymen Haley insists they are.
Instead of embracing Trumps approach, itтАЩs obvious that Haley is part of the warmonger wing of the Republican Party, and the fact that she has ovaries instead of testicles doesnтАЩt make her any less dangerous to the well being of this country.
I appreciate your comment. If I were to give you a call, or converse over a glass or two of Pinot Noir, I suspect we could have a respectful and engaging discussion on the state of the country and our perceptions of who is best suited to move it in a positive direction. Contrary to your presumption, I wouldnтАЩt interrupt what you have to say, but I would challenge anything I donтАЩt agree with. I hope those ground rules would be acceptable.
Disagree - Nikki Haley is not who I would choose overall over Vivek BUT I found her to be very poised, with seriousness and polish and she made some excellent points about foreign policy. She is not obsessed with Ukraine and she is not a screecher, hysterical, etc. In fact, as much as I like Vivek, she had the most clear and and effective manner and communication style up there. For her, experience has made her a polished candidate who could show up anywhere on the world stage. Her positions and policies are something different, but it's not fair to characterize her as out of control. Not at all. I like Vivek, but he doesn't have this advantage yet.
Great assessment of Haley and Pence. Well-done. The Seventies called and wants its "If you want something done, ask a woman" back.
On Ukraine, though. Not that I want to fight a bloody and endless war in Ukraine that is costing us billions of dollars. However, if we acquiesce to Vivek's vision of "let Putin have Ukraine," along with "let China have Taiwan" and withdraw, the bullying will be seen to have worked, and encourage others to have at it. That will destroy the relative peace the West has enjoyed since World Wars I and II.
Simply put, we and the rest of the West decided in the wake of WWII that neighbors will not be allowed to brutally invade and conquer neighbors, because once that shit starts fresh, Europe goes medieval again and millions more die as a result. We have a vested interest in making sure that doesn't happen.
That's why I support helping Ukraine kick Putin back to Moscow. I certainly could live with--and would encourage--a Putin-Zelensky agreement that cedes the most Russian-centric zone of eastern Ukraine to Russia in exchange for a peace treaty. I just can't fathom telling Putin, "This car's all yours, pal, be sure to change the plates to your own state."
Why is it that when someone questions our involvement with Ukraine, the answer is we either spend those billions in defense aid or тАЬlet Putin have UkraineтАЭ? Why canтАЩt we pressure both sides to the negotiating table?
If you say the only acceptable solution is for Russia to give back all the land itтАЩs seized and just pack up and go, then you are not serious about ending a conflict that is ravaging a country and further calcifying the relationship between two U.S. adversaries. Why would Russia ever come to the negotiating table let alone accept those terms, especially if they are winning on the ground? Why wouldnтАЩt they just say forget it, we can occupy parts of Ukraine and keep the West embroiled in this for years? What do we do then?
Um, I specifically said I would be happy for a deal in which Russia becomes sovereign over Russia-centric Ukraine. That would be the Donbas, Crimea, and a narrow land bridge connecting the two. Even though defending Ukraine is the moral and right thing to do, I'd rather NOT spend a trillion of our hard-earned dollars if there's another way. That would be Z giving away the part of Eastern Ukraine that has caused him nothing but trouble for years. Those folks want to be Russian, let them; Z is well rid of them.
In exchange for having to bow to a marauder, Z becomes free to join the EU and NATO. Putin's "fear" of NATO missiles in Ukraine is bullshit. NATO missiles are a few minutes' flight time from all the other NATO countries on Russia's border now. Putting more in Ukraine would make zero difference. Besides, that would be unnecessary. if Ukraine becomes part of NATO, an attack on one is an attack on all, and missiles from Poland will get to Moscow just as fast.
If Putin demands more than that, and you're good with it, then you're not actually serious about ending this conflict, are you?
What about a deal in which Russia gives back all territory (less Crimea), but NATO membership is off the table for Ukraine?
FWIW, regarding being serious about ending the conflict, I was referring to the pundits who basically want Russia to admit defeat and retreat with nothing in hand. ThatтАЩs not how negotiations work.
Thanks for clarifying you weren't talking about me but the pundits, Brad. I agree--that's not how negotiations work. Except for global-shattering evils like Nazism, where defeat without mercy or negotiations need to be imposed, war is politics by other means and negotiations are crucial to ending them. If neither Putin nor Z will budge, the West must insist. It's their lives but our money, and both are important to conserve.
Me, I'd happily accept any deal the two of them cook up--NATO, no NATO, trade land for vodka, whatever. As long as they settle this mess, I'm good.
That said, we know what's important to Zelenskyy: getting his land back, and eventual NATO membership. We don't know what Putin really wants: the land he took, the rest of Ukraine, keeping Ukraine out of NATO not for practical reasons but keeping a stick in the West's eye, or all three.
I believe Z and P are best off by letting Russia keep what it took--Donbas, Crimea, and the land bridge--in exchange for a peace and border treaty and NATO membership. Putin claims victory because he controls land filled with Russian patriots, and keeps the port and land bridge to Crimea. Major victories in reality. Z claims victory because he rids Ukraine of people who hated being Ukrainian, and he joins the West through EU and NATO.
They both have to be able to claim major victory in order to end this through negotiations; otherwise, blood and treasure continue to soak the countryside.
Thanks, Brad, a fine discussion, this.
I agree: the West must insist on a deal. Not sure that we can тАЬforceтАЭ Putin to the table, but I donтАЩt think Z is in a position to say no since he canтАЩt really let the war continue without western support. I think he was pushing off negotiations and perhaps hedging on more direct involvement from the West, but given that the counter-offensive has failed, not sure he can refuse.
As for the deal terms, agree. IтАЩm not sold that NATO membership isnтАЩt a dealbreaker, but if Putin really cares more about the territorial gains then so be it.
And yes, good discussion, thanks!
Your final word defeated your argument about Haley.
"too?"
:-)
Yes. She said she d8d not do it but then said Pence did it too. I was not opening whether Haley did or not.
Sorry maybe should have put "screeched" in quote marks. Just repeating the commenter's own characterization, not stating I agreed with it. Pence had bombast I guess is what I was trying to convey.
Well said!
Yeh, Vivek was the first hand up.
Others looked then leaped.
What was the question?
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тАЬGeography is irrelevantтАЭ
тАЬThe GI Bill is what made them successfulтАЭ (in California where most JA men didnтАЩt get it)
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Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
My advice. Don't wear your insanity on your shirtsleeve. See help ASAP. You need it.
No, Peter. Let's keep going. I can do this all year.
Awww.....still can't debunk the data/article can you?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2047697/real-secret-asian-success-america-was-not-about
Now, you're buried and stuck on repeat
Now we have an explanation for all that California success, don't we?
1. Get paid like white people
2. Get benefits denied to others.
Sorry, Pete - I don't take mental health advice from people who have OD'd on Xanax. Which means you.
The article gave you the answers to all that California success you were crowing about, didn't it? So, you've been buried and owned.
You overdosed on Xanax, so when it comes to giving others mental health recommendations, you should probably shut the f-ck up. My advice.
WasnтАЩt the question about whether they would be against sending more aid to Ukraine? Desantis said that Europe has to step up but Vivek directly raised his hand as a тАЬNo more aidтАЭ.
That was my recollection. Vivek had his hand high in the air, which prompted the moderator to ask him for his opinion why first..... DeSantis sort of did a look-then-go halfway hand raise. Then mumbled something about Europe paying their share......
Martha:
"Former president Trump has been indicted in four different states [DC not a state] on 91 counts. He will be will be processed tomorrow at the Fulton County jail for charges relating to the 2020 election laws."
Bret:
"You all signed a pledge to support the eventual republican nominee. If former president Trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice? Please raise your hand if you would."
https://youtu.be/9JlWvp4R0i0?t=6
"You all signed a pledge to support the eventual republican nominee"
And yet Vivek was the only one to unflinchingly keep his word.
I noticed that too..... and clearly DeSantis was looking around for clues then raised his hand halfway. Vivek did a great job portraying how the rest of the candidates really are business as usual politicians who will enact zero change. Now he needs to own up to the stupid 9/11 comment, bury that, and move on to garner all of this momentum. If he leaves that out there for another 24 hours, MSM will hammer him for a year on it....тАЭThis guy thinks 9/11 was a government plot, etc, etc.тАЭ.
Ron DeSantis has done more then all of those people combined for the state of Florida. HeтАЩs a doer, not a big talker.
There are three groups of people with regard to 9/11: those who have spent zero time studying the scientific evidence of controlled implosion, which is irrefutable with regard to at least Tower 7 (which they also dont know about; those who HAVE studied the evidence and reached the only defensible conclusion, which is that this was a very large and complex conspiracy, and that at least some parts of our government lied to us; and the people who DID it.
47 Story skyscrapers do not collapse at near freefall velocity straight down because the curtains and a few file cabinets are on fire.
The core purpose of social conditioning has obviously been achieved when people demand to be told what they just saw. Criminals, equally obviously, are only too happy to comply.
Why you still watching MSM it has not an ounce of credibility left.
I watched CNN after the debate, just to see the other side. They were surprisingly not terrible and actually made a few valid points. At least that was my take for the 10 minutes I gave it. I won't touch the demon spawn at MSNBC.
I donтАЩt watch any of them, they cause to much anxiety in my home. I also get snippets on social media, itтАЩs actually enough for me.
I'm not, but I do see their ridiculous snippets via other sources..... Greenwald, Megyn Kelly, etc, etc.
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Maybe it's just me but I understood his 9/11 comment to be an analogy to January 6, saying that if there were federal agents on board the flights, we would have a right to know, just as we have a right to know if (as if it's in doubt) there were federal agents in the J6 crowd. And I think overall anyone who believes, after the last 7 years at minimum, that we the public get the whole story from the government about any topic, especially one that precipitated decades of war and the Patriot Act, is na├пve at best.
Excellent point.
Agreed on the overall idea. Unfortunately he went on CNN and aggressively said he was taken out of context by the original journalist, and demanded they release the actual audio. Then when you listen to the audio, he basically said what the journalist said he did. Just a strange mini hill to die on in that situation I thought. Could've been handled better, but overall shouldn't be a big issue. I just wanted him to put it to bed immediately so there's zero reason to talk about it.
Exactly
Talk about whispering down the lane... Having watched Vivek address this issue during an interview, my understanding is that the involvement of the Saudi government has been suppressed by our government. This has directly affected the families of 9/11 victims suing the Saudi government for damages. In todays world of government complicity in censorship, propaganda and classifying everything remotely embarrassing to the deep state as "top secret", I share his concerns.
Exactly. Anyone who has bothered to look into Vivek's concerns about 9/11 knows that he isn't a 'Truther.' What he wants to know is what the involvement of the Saudis was. And that is a legitimate question, considering that the plot was hatched and carried out largely by Saudi citizens (if they can be called citizens; aren't they more like subjects?). The speed with which the Bush Administration shielded the Saudis was deeply worrisome to me at the time.
I have no doubt the Saudi government is up to its eyeballs in 9/11. That said, Vivek is an idiot to pursue 9/11 Trutherism. One can want complete transparency on the Saudi role without thinking 9/11 was some plot hatched by federal agents to Steal our Precious Bodily Fluids.
Good points, Timothy. Anyone who thinks we ever got the full story on 9/11 is in dreamland. Maybe it is not politically smart for Vivek to bring this up, but it needs saying, by somebody.
Vivek has the skills to overcome the 9/11 item. Besides, he isn't in a fight for the general election.
He has to win over more in his party. And no one articulates the reality of the woke ideology better than Vivek. El Salvador's president, Nayib Ortez, has done a remarkable job and he is about Vivek's age. I understand this is a poor parallel, but there are a very few individuals who can perform at the highest level even when relatively very young. Go Vivek!
Our founders were in their 20s or 30s. They came up with the Declaration, our fabulous constitution and form of government at ages less than Viveks. They were not "rookies."
Do you really think for an instant we will get any truth out of this government? The same government that hid the involvement of the USG in the Kennedy assassinations? Please...
100% share the concerns too.
IтАЩm in the same boat. I like Vivek but his position on the vaccine is troubling. HeтАЩs against mandates, but he made his drug development, and I think heтАЩs in with big pharma. But I prefer him to trump, who is way too old and weighed down for my taste. Need new blood.
Erin P, what gives you the impression he's 'in w Big Pharma?
In short, the DNC fascist machine, has as planned, lie after lie, beaten everyone to the point of senseless and hopeless despair.
But his pharmacy ethical experience could provide him insight into that culture. It does not mean necessarily he is owned by it.
Forget the "Big Pharma" line! That's a Dem talking point and you are feeding into it. Yes. the pharmaceutical industry is in it for the profits, but what about the "Big Unions", and "Big Law"? Are you not concerned that those with the deepest pockets are influencing your vote? Look at their goals, to gain more power over government policy that negates your REAL concerns! See the enemy for what they are, not what the latest media hit pieces say!
Erin a bit naive at this point Robert, and also sounds a bit young. Everybody grows up eventually however, we still got to make the correct choices for 2024.
I heard him say on a podcast he picked up drugs that the Big Pharma was not interested in. I think he said five have received FDA clearance. His words.
I'm not sure what the "BIG " Deal is here- Big Pharma needs a huge ROI on the drugs they bring to market- they do an analysis during their research and then they determine if its worth pursuing. If not, the research becomes open to someone else. And there's a smaller market for that. Don't see a conflict.
It's like saying there's something "suspect " about me, if I happen to take a drug made by "Big Pharma"? Lol
So did OxyContin receive FDA clearance.
ItтАЩs bona fide for pain relief. Abusing Oxy (or any drug) is not.
A good idea, a useful drug. If people misused it, that's their fault.
Problem is, addiction occurs even when you don't misuse.
Oxy, and even more with Fentanyl, is so potent that even people taking them under medical supervision become hooked. Sometimes after a few days, sometimes after just a few doses, bam, addicted.
Killing the severe pain for which these drugs were designed makes the reward worth the risk in many cases, but "misuse" is not even the primary reason so many millions became addicted. It's the nature of drugs that are hundreds or thousands times more powerful than morphine.
There's a reason the narco cartels sprinkle fentanyl into their bags of weed. the additive creates addicts who'd kill grandma for just one more reefer, and instantly. My wife needed fentanyl in her final days of metastatic cancer. Once, I accidentally touched a patch with one ungloved finger. My brain went cloudy, and my sisters, who were with me in her final days, saw me stagger. One little touch.
The case was against the Sackler family, the doctors and Curtis Lewis who worked for the FDA who passed the approval of the drug and then promptly went to work for Purdue. Watch Painkiller on Netflix itтАЩs quite good.IтАЩm in agreement with you about the people abuse, what worries me is the free flow of Fentanyl coming across our southern border from Mexico distributed by China to kill Americans. Nobody is doing anything about that. SF distributes free needles and safe places to shoot up just one of the big cities affected by this terror, least of all the current Democrat administration. I think we need new leadership to deal with America, not leadership that is more interested in a foreign war then тАЬUSтАЭ.
My understanding is he picked up failed drugs and ran new studies in them that also mostly failed. But he made money along the way. He has a very snake oil salesman feel.
Well then the FDA is culpable if those five meds getting approval is bogus. So thereтАЩs the rub.
Ohhh... I didn't watch the debates, but sounds like Vivek might be the new top candidate. Who's in with Big Pharma? Hmmm... I may write an article called "why voting for the lesser of two evils is STILL evil"
I share some of those sentiments here, because I see some struggling with voting
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-we-should-appreciate-desantis
Looks like I'll be eyeing this Vivek guy and if I see something on him, an article will be coming :)
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/
Actually, there is a word for "voting for the lesser of two evils"--democracy. The whole process is way less frustrating when viewed through that lens, at least it is to me.
I think trying to see political choices as a choice among evils is theologically mistaken. Jesus isn't running. We must always vote for the best imperfect candidate. Some years the options are simply better than others.
Correct. A greater sense of our history would help with a better objectivity. There is no perfect candidate. What matters is the survival of the Republic and the Constitution. The DNC is controlled by a band of international financial grifters. If the Republic and the Constitution stand, no matter what, so shall we.
I generally agree but would put it differently. The majority of the time we vote against somebody as apposed to for someone.
And that's OK, M Hutcheson!
"I'll be eyeing this Vivek guy and if I see something on him, an article will be coming"
You might want to start by watching a replay of the debate.
*made his money in
Perfect comment. Wish I could like it more than once.