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Evans W's avatar

Progressives have wrecked Canada and will continue to do so in the name of equity & reparation. Once they’re finished there will be nothing left of the nation but a pile of smoldering virtuous ash.

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Rosette Liberman's avatar

Not "virtuous" but sanctimonious ash.

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Jen Jen's avatar

Are you Canadian? Why on earth was Trudeau re-elected?

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MzT's avatar

Trudeau leads a minority government. That is the Liberals did not win more than half the seats in the parliament during the last election, and received far less than 50% of the overall vote. The only way for Trudeau to govern is with the support of the far left NDP, led by Jagmeet Singh. They give their votes to the Liberals in exchange for policy influence, effectively moving that party even further to the left.

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Jen Jen's avatar

Why are Indians so far left? Also, maybe this is good for conservatives?

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GSAT's avatar

Most immigrants tend to vote liberal - but will vote for moderate conservatives too. The longer in the country, the increasingly politically diverse. The suburbs of Toronto, which are very immigrant heavy, voted conservative provincially and liberal federally. And did vote for the solidly right wing Harper prior to 2015.

Also, the leader of the far left NDP party being of east indian descent (punjabi sikh descent to be specific) does not mean that Indians are far left - anymore than Elizabeth Warren's existence doesn't mean white Americans born in the south are far left. Individuals are individuals.

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Jen Jen's avatar

Certain ethnic groups are known for voting certain ways. Jews tend to be liberal. I'm Jewish and politically conservative. I don't mesh well with my tribe because of this. I also live in an area of NJ with a high Indian population. They also vote overwhelmingly liberal and I notice that Sikhs tend to be borderline socialist. Yes... there are outliers in every group, but what I'm saying is factual. The only ethnic group that tends to pull in a BIT more conservatives is latino.

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GSAT's avatar

The most prominent Sikhs in US politics (Nikki Haley and Harmeet Dhillon) are Republican, and their shifting support towards Trump in the 2020 election was noted by many Indian publications in 2020. I can provide links - but I imagine you have Google to help you.

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Jen Jen's avatar

No need to be smug. I think I understand the US better than you. Even if Nikki Haley has Sikh parents, she is incredibly westernized and I met her in person. I know several Sikhs personally who are mayors of towns in NJ and they are incredibly liberal. I also know in my town there are certain indian community leaders and the residents vote for whomever these people tell them to. I don't need to use google to know how Indians vote.

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GSAT's avatar

This article is not about American politics to begin with. You made a bizarre opinion with brazen confidence about Indian Canadian voters based on your experience in NJ. Sikhs are barely 0.3% of the population in NJ - while Sikhs are over 2% of all of Canada - and up to 6% in some provinces. The only US state where the percentage of Sikhs is even more than a blip is California.

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GSAT's avatar

It's not factual. You are neither Canadian or of South Asian background - and your knowledge of such matters is evidently sorely lacking. Canada and the USA also have very different dynamics. In the context of Canada - a plurality of jewish Canadians vote Conservative - as opposed to their cousins in the USA that tend to be left leaning (though with the expanding orthodox and ultra-orthdox populations, that dynamic is also starting to shift). In Canada, South Asians are pretty evenly spread out in their voting patterns for the three major parties, as well as MP representation in parliament AND their voting patterns in municipal, provincial and federal elections. All 4 MPPs in Ontario that are Sikh belong to the Conservative party. For the record, Jagmeet is the ONLY Sikh in the NDP party - out of 15 current members of parliament that are Sikh at the federal level.

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GSAT's avatar

Trudeau actually lost the popular vote. But the vote distribution favored him. And much of the mainstream media presented the Conservative running, O'Toole, as far right when he was almost a leftist himself. I wouldn't want a loony toon Fox News equivalent - but I'd like a right of center news channel in Canada - and one no longer really exists. That's the problem to some degree.

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Skinny's avatar

The media and social media are all looney tunes

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Deidre K's avatar

The first thing we have to get rid of in new authoritarian world is to stop buying into the propaganda about far right fear. It is used only to slander and dismiss a very large swath of people who are not extremist. It is a misnomer used against anyone who does not pay homage to the one party line. We can’t keep falling for that!

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Jen Jen's avatar

I'm not happy with FOX dumping Carlson, but they're hardly looney toons either. Any conservative outlet automatically gets branded as nutso, which is unfair and a major part of the problem.

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McExpat's avatar

Because our elections are decided in Ontario and Quebec and both provinces are bought by the Liberal government to stay loyal. Trudeau ran on a promise of electoral reform in the beginning but as soon ad he got to power it was first past the post all the way. It’s a terrible system. He’s increased the federal govt workforce by 30% so has lots of loyal lemmings in Ottawa. Canada is in rough shape.

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John Springer's avatar

Our reality is far worst than this. The four eastern provinces with a population of 2.5m elect 32 MPs giving them a voting advantage over the western provinces of 35%. The western provinces of 12m elect 108 MPS. The two central provinces total 23m and elect 200 MPs.

The eastern provinces have little to no industry and survive primarily off of seasonal revenue from fishing and farming and timber industries. They have at times needed government hand outs to survive therefor lean liberal.

The west is built on resource industries, large scale ranching and farming, timber and transportation. Moving everything from China to the east.

I cannot recall in my life time when the west sought help from the east. It has been more a constant push to be left alone. The west lenders to vote conservative.

This year alone the liberal left allowed over one million immigrants into a country of 38,000,000. They claim business has motivated the high surge. I don't know a single businessman who wants Chi Pings grand parents to immigrate to Canada. Over half on new immigrants are supposed to be extended family members. (could be wrong here)

Immigrants to Cananada receive government benefits for up to three years on arrival. Who are the new people going to vote for? Conservatives who want to restrain spending? Or the Liberals who are giving them the gift of citizenship and a cheque once a month?

Crime is out of control in my small city. The local FB Rants is full of petty crime events daily and the local police indicate there is nothing they can do because the courts just let the crooks out immediately. You're homeless or none white here, take what you want from anyone, anywhere, any time.

You’re a white teenage boy with a L on your car, you best be terrified anytime you see a cop on the road while you're driving. The white boys here know fear. Is that what the intelligentia want us to learn? To know fear daily? To learn to distrust before trusting? To hate strangers?

Well they are winning... Communism 101

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McExpat's avatar

All solid points and explains the insane incentives to vote Liberal here. Funny you mention the L or the N - my son had a hard route to get that L whilst all his female peers sailed through the test.....have women really become that much better drivers since I was a kid? I’m assuming you are BC based.....

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Skinny's avatar

Very much like us in America

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Sghoul's avatar

Because he looks good in Black (face)?

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Skinny's avatar

😂😂

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Birdie's avatar

He had nice shoes.

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