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I enjoyed this interview of Isaacson more than the Kara Swisher interview where she attacked him for being a Musk fan. I don't think Kara sees what people like Musk, Isaacson, Andreessen, myself and others see. We used to be a country of builders and makers who shaped the future. We are in danger of becoming a nation of rent seekers who will someday look at the many achievements of our grandparents and wonder naively how it was all done. I think this decline in ambition and agency is what alarms people like Musk the most.

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