“the policies progressives favor as an alternative to incarcerating the mentally ill failed Jordan Neely”
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Really not a huge fan of the notion that we failed Jordan Neely like we let *him* down somehow.
He punched an old woman in the face and shattered her eye socket. She is the one who we let down. A decent society would have given that guy a cigarette and a blindfold ten years ago.
“the policies progressives favor as an alternative to incarcerating the mentally ill failed Jordan Neely”
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Really not a huge fan of the notion that we failed Jordan Neely like we let *him* down somehow.
He punched an old woman in the face and shattered her eye socket. She is the one who we let down. A decent society would have given that guy a cigarette and a blindfold ten years ago.
But by all accounts he was bat shite crazy. Progressive activists decimated the old system of involuntary commitment - institutionalization - for people like poor Mr. Neely. I cannot imagine the hell his life must have been. So yes progressive policies created the situation where people like him roam the streets. He is a victim. It is just one more illustration that progressives are either very ignorant or very malicious. Personally I find it hard to believe so many can Not See.
But, they were abandoned. His family, first and foremost, but they might have been incapable. And then doctors and institutions failed and everything in between like a snowball rolling downhill. Mental illness is very difficult to control, if ever. For the sake of their rights to sovereignty (which is an oxymoron because they are incapable of managing themselves when ill), we abandoned them to their disease and to the streets where their illness grows into destitution and violence (mostly men by the way). Surely, we can create places this illness could be managed. The former mayor of NY (who shall not be named like Nosferatu) gave his wife millions of dollars to repair care of the mentally ill. Nothing happened. Well, not nothing; they made it horribly worse.
You were on a good roll there - abandoned by his family, abandoned by his mental.health care providers - then you stopped. The cruelest abandonment of all was by his civic leaders. Leaders who refused to face harsh realities and make hard decisions to compassionately care for those unable to care for themselves.
In the recent past, the term abandon is rather apt. But looking back, society threw them into "the mainstream" without considering their actual abilities to survive on their own and not represent a danger to others.
The left looooves the criminal and despises the victim as an irrelevant nuisance. You have to look no further than the leftwing DAs who fail to prosecute criminals. Think California and Chicago where business, think Walmart and big chain drug stores, are fleeing the state and the city because of unprosecuted crime
I've said this before leftwing morons hold vigils outside of prisons about to execute some murdering psychopath. How many of them ever console the victims of these brutal murders? Answer - NONE!
Also quit calling these fascists, liberals or progressives. They are neither liberals (liberals value free speech. Woke/PC shut down free speech.) nor are they progressive.
We are seeing people in academia and in businesses being fired or punished for using the term "biological female". That is fascism pure and simple. Call them what they really are, tyrants!
We have a new name for them, thanks to Kevin Durant?. Not Sees. As in there is none so blind as one who will not, or can Not See. Perfect in its description and elegant in its simplicity.
As the old Eagles song noted, "call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye."
The left perverts our language for a reason.
Just like they think nobody notices that indicting Trump for the same things Biden and Hilary Clinton did makes us nothing but a banana republic. Which, with Biden's immigration free for all, we actually are looking like.
Last night I wondered how long it would take for someone to shoehorn the trump indictment into today's comments regardless of what the morning article would be.
I thought Bruce's comments were relevant. It demonstrated the duality of our justice system. A conservative abuses the Secrets Act he goes to prison. If it were applied equally, Hillary would have gone to prison 6 years ago.
But like Penny, the Trump indictment highlights the nasty dualism of our "justice" system and the travesty that Democrats have made of it. If Penny had been black, he'd be a free man today. The two guys who helped him were, respectively, black and hispanic. No indictments of them. Not that they should be. All three are heroic in my estimation.
Politicization ruins everything. It is not lost on me though that recent events should be bringing home to all what the least powerful among us have suffered for years.
“the policies progressives favor as an alternative to incarcerating the mentally ill failed Jordan Neely”
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Really not a huge fan of the notion that we failed Jordan Neely like we let *him* down somehow.
He punched an old woman in the face and shattered her eye socket. She is the one who we let down. A decent society would have given that guy a cigarette and a blindfold ten years ago.
But by all accounts he was bat shite crazy. Progressive activists decimated the old system of involuntary commitment - institutionalization - for people like poor Mr. Neely. I cannot imagine the hell his life must have been. So yes progressive policies created the situation where people like him roam the streets. He is a victim. It is just one more illustration that progressives are either very ignorant or very malicious. Personally I find it hard to believe so many can Not See.
But, they were abandoned. His family, first and foremost, but they might have been incapable. And then doctors and institutions failed and everything in between like a snowball rolling downhill. Mental illness is very difficult to control, if ever. For the sake of their rights to sovereignty (which is an oxymoron because they are incapable of managing themselves when ill), we abandoned them to their disease and to the streets where their illness grows into destitution and violence (mostly men by the way). Surely, we can create places this illness could be managed. The former mayor of NY (who shall not be named like Nosferatu) gave his wife millions of dollars to repair care of the mentally ill. Nothing happened. Well, not nothing; they made it horribly worse.
You were on a good roll there - abandoned by his family, abandoned by his mental.health care providers - then you stopped. The cruelest abandonment of all was by his civic leaders. Leaders who refused to face harsh realities and make hard decisions to compassionately care for those unable to care for themselves.
I didn't stop. Addressed that in another thread.
In the recent past, the term abandon is rather apt. But looking back, society threw them into "the mainstream" without considering their actual abilities to survive on their own and not represent a danger to others.
The mayor is an executive. City mayors, unlike recent POTUSs, are pretty weak. Legislative bodies make the laws.
Notice it's called the "criminal justice system", not the "VICTIM justice system"
The left looooves the criminal and despises the victim as an irrelevant nuisance. You have to look no further than the leftwing DAs who fail to prosecute criminals. Think California and Chicago where business, think Walmart and big chain drug stores, are fleeing the state and the city because of unprosecuted crime
I've said this before leftwing morons hold vigils outside of prisons about to execute some murdering psychopath. How many of them ever console the victims of these brutal murders? Answer - NONE!
Also quit calling these fascists, liberals or progressives. They are neither liberals (liberals value free speech. Woke/PC shut down free speech.) nor are they progressive.
We are seeing people in academia and in businesses being fired or punished for using the term "biological female". That is fascism pure and simple. Call them what they really are, tyrants!
We have a new name for them, thanks to Kevin Durant?. Not Sees. As in there is none so blind as one who will not, or can Not See. Perfect in its description and elegant in its simplicity.
Funny, I thought Not See was a clever play on Nazi. It seems both are applicable
I think that it is a play on words. But it is very apt so I prefer the plain meaning.
It rather scares me, Lynne, and worries me about the future of a Lockean liberal society.
People who refuse to consider options, and thus deliberately not see scare me. But it is what it is and I prefer to know what I am facing.
As the old Eagles song noted, "call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye."
The left perverts our language for a reason.
Just like they think nobody notices that indicting Trump for the same things Biden and Hilary Clinton did makes us nothing but a banana republic. Which, with Biden's immigration free for all, we actually are looking like.
Looking like? We are one! Despots in power, a few billionaires who are the ruling class and money going to the friends of those in power.
Last night I wondered how long it would take for someone to shoehorn the trump indictment into today's comments regardless of what the morning article would be.
You've exceeded my expectations.
Yes, so rigid ideologically that it is always our side is always right and the other side is blamed for everything wrong/evil with the world.
But that is true on both "sides". Which is why we remain so divided.
I never suggested otherwise............meanwhile the majority are left to gasp at the state of politics.
I think the politicians prefer it that way. And the only power the citizen has - his or her vote - is severely compromised.
I thought Bruce's comments were relevant. It demonstrated the duality of our justice system. A conservative abuses the Secrets Act he goes to prison. If it were applied equally, Hillary would have gone to prison 6 years ago.
That you spent last night considering that is a tell.
Well, thanks, I think.
But like Penny, the Trump indictment highlights the nasty dualism of our "justice" system and the travesty that Democrats have made of it. If Penny had been black, he'd be a free man today. The two guys who helped him were, respectively, black and hispanic. No indictments of them. Not that they should be. All three are heroic in my estimation.
Politicization ruins everything. It is not lost on me though that recent events should be bringing home to all what the least powerful among us have suffered for years.