A homeless person!! What is that? People who are truly homeless will only be so for a season. They will find help if a veteran, loss job or any other mishap. Most are nothing but bums that will not work and dope people. Homeless people will find help. Bums just bleed the system.
What frustrates me the most about Homicide and Crime these days, is that the murderer is often on a list & known to police to be dangerous. Yet even though these people are criminals and clearly known to be a danger, nothing is done. This is the pattern time &time again. Many of the school shooters and mass shooters are known to be dangerous, there are warnings, yet nothing is done. Many who kill their wives or girlfriends had said they would do it, the authorities knew, yet nothing is done. Most of the terrorists as well. there are warnings beforehand but nothing done. Why???
Man, all the bent out of shape comments about the use of the word vigilantism! Toughen up, America. We need more vigilantism, not less. We need to step up and loudly support people who are tired of all the bullshit the Left keeps dropping on us. 47% of voting Americans are permanently lost to the Democrat Party cult. If we can't win at the ballot box then we have few options when it comes to keeping our communities and families safe.
This was actually very good. Informative. No robotic talking points. Worth the time.
I really enjoyed the comment that the same woman who said "I'm not threatened by anything on the subway is also the same one who says she's physically threatened and/or harmed by speech with which she disagrees." Great observation
Coming from lived experience, how about some simple, unpalatable truths, you can’t save everyone, you can’t save people who are on their own path of self destruction, regardless the reasons. The rights of the individual should not supersede the rights of the community. Resigned acceptance of someone ejaculating on your coat yet Louis CK etc gets canceled?? I’m supposed to put up with intimidating, offensive or dangerous behaviour on the subway, but someone rolls their eyes at me or uses the wrong pronoun and it’s evidence of psychosocial harm & I can be relentlessly attacked or fired. Stop politicising everything and using issues for ideological agendas. There is so much cognitive dissonance in our culture today, let’s start there…
I think women and the elderly should be aware that men who can help are now far less likely to. That’s one price is this “war” that won’t be counted but it will be paid.
A price must be paid for Jordan Neely’s death. Unfortunately we remain unprepared to pay it. Since 1974 when a bipartisan decision was made to empty the state psychiatric facilities, large campuses, the equivalent of small towns stand vacant. We’ve learned a great deal since 1974. We have many more and effective psychotropic medications than the three we had then. Academic disciplines have focused and documented effective methodologies in the treatment of psychoses as well as the dynamics of community including architectural space. In other words, we could resuscitate these campuses, design them for their new purpose, house and support people with reference to their ability to function, and overall create a sustaining environment for people living precarious lives on the street. But, of course, this would be very expensive; much to great a price to ransom Jordan Neely.
There is a 1979 court decision that compels the city to provide adequate shelter for its homeless population. If we were to be overheard in 1978 discussing the plight of the homeless, whoever was listening would think we were delusional. The homeless population, despite the 1974 expulsion from state “homes” was negligible. It took Reagan’s diversion of money designated for public housing to commercial real estate and the beginnings of gentrification of Manhattan to accomplish this. Prior to gentrification, we had SRO (single room occupancy) welfare hotels with social and psychiatric services in the lobby for those willing to involve themselves. But we don't want those people living in immediate proximity to luxury high rises and we don't want to restore that housing elsewhere. Too high a price to pay for Jordan Neely’s life.
So,some kid on the subway where Jordan Neely was psychotically threatening people, is going to pay for his “heroic moment of rescue.” Two lives wasted, and we can assume the young ex-marine was not affluent; affluent people don’t become enlistees in the Marine Corps. Marines, by the way, are shock troops; they’re not regular Army, more on the continuum of Rangers, Special Forces, and Seals. The latter being so exquisitely trained in killing, that they are housed in segregated facilities at Mannheim military base in Germany, in case things get volatile. So we can thank Penny for his service, a service we trained him for, that he misapplied by taking things too far. Neely shouldn’t be dead; he should have been rescued long ago, but we wouldn’t pay the price. Penny will.
Yes fair question! Long story. It’s too much for us. We’re in our 70s with our own health issues. He does come to our house for hours most days. It’s good for him to live elsewhere in part to be prepared for when we are gone. He’s guarded and doesn’t talk much but he benefits from having to interact with others; it helps him push the voices aside and focus on reality. He was hospitalized about 10 times before now (in his 30s) being pretty stable and apparently happy enough.
"...part of the oppressor class..." Unfortunately the concept you have identified is an important part of the zeitgeist that has the approval of the NYT, NPR, the Dem Party et al and the jumped up NYC DA. has to jump to that tune.
I don’t agree with hero, and I wouldn’t call him a Good Samaritan, either. He intervened to aid people who were threatened, a brave and noble act. The result, unfortunately, caused the perpetrator to die because of the use of a chokehold and other mitigating factors (all controversial). It would have been heroic if a death didn’t occur, but it did, and we cannot look away from that either.
By the title, I can guess that you truly are interested in continuing division and a lack of real solutions. I don't need to listen, because your perspective is in the title and I have already seen how terribly it's playing out. Our country is in desperate need of real solutions, which you're not prepared to offer. Come spend a day in a classroom like mine. Go do a ride along, in a challenging neighborhood. Go try to help someone dangerous, who doesn't want help. Then, maybe I'll listen.
Comparing Mr. Penny to a vigilante is an insult to the truth, you should know better. Mr. Lake’s word choice displays your bias towards the extreme Left. You’re a Democrat to your core.
While having dinner with a Maryland public school teacher, we spoke about the system & the children, some specifically. Their parents/guardians or complete lack thereof. Struggles and hopes and sad realizations, thieves of passion.
She showed me a scar from a few years ago, where a child took a bite from her hand. Life at 7 had left him fearful and void of trust. He was eventually sent to a class "better equipped" for his needs. Then hospitalized.
She spoke of another boy in the same second grade age-group, who had suffered traumas and was understandably difficult and disruptive. She visited him recently at his "hospital" to find him alone and in a padded room.
Here's a dedicated public teacher who has been at it for quite a while, recounting the babies moved into overcrowded, ill-equipped hospitals. Into our mental health system when their biggest worries should be on a playground. And I wonder why we don't hear more about them, these lost little ones. Before they become a Jordan Neely news story or another soul we understandably & routinely avoid on the street.
What I find astonishing is that stories like this bring out the need for good and watchful parenting right? Yet when good and watchful parents go to school board meetings because they’ve watched their children targeted by perverts in the public schools, they’re condemned.
A homeless person!! What is that? People who are truly homeless will only be so for a season. They will find help if a veteran, loss job or any other mishap. Most are nothing but bums that will not work and dope people. Homeless people will find help. Bums just bleed the system.
What frustrates me the most about Homicide and Crime these days, is that the murderer is often on a list & known to police to be dangerous. Yet even though these people are criminals and clearly known to be a danger, nothing is done. This is the pattern time &time again. Many of the school shooters and mass shooters are known to be dangerous, there are warnings, yet nothing is done. Many who kill their wives or girlfriends had said they would do it, the authorities knew, yet nothing is done. Most of the terrorists as well. there are warnings beforehand but nothing done. Why???
Man, all the bent out of shape comments about the use of the word vigilantism! Toughen up, America. We need more vigilantism, not less. We need to step up and loudly support people who are tired of all the bullshit the Left keeps dropping on us. 47% of voting Americans are permanently lost to the Democrat Party cult. If we can't win at the ballot box then we have few options when it comes to keeping our communities and families safe.
This was actually very good. Informative. No robotic talking points. Worth the time.
I really enjoyed the comment that the same woman who said "I'm not threatened by anything on the subway is also the same one who says she's physically threatened and/or harmed by speech with which she disagrees." Great observation
The use of the word vigilante is a gross mischaracterization. Therefore I will not be listening to the conversation. Do better.
Coming from lived experience, how about some simple, unpalatable truths, you can’t save everyone, you can’t save people who are on their own path of self destruction, regardless the reasons. The rights of the individual should not supersede the rights of the community. Resigned acceptance of someone ejaculating on your coat yet Louis CK etc gets canceled?? I’m supposed to put up with intimidating, offensive or dangerous behaviour on the subway, but someone rolls their eyes at me or uses the wrong pronoun and it’s evidence of psychosocial harm & I can be relentlessly attacked or fired. Stop politicising everything and using issues for ideological agendas. There is so much cognitive dissonance in our culture today, let’s start there…
BTW, you know the media is playing games with the public when they choose a photo from a decade ago.
I think women and the elderly should be aware that men who can help are now far less likely to. That’s one price is this “war” that won’t be counted but it will be paid.
A price must be paid for Jordan Neely’s death. Unfortunately we remain unprepared to pay it. Since 1974 when a bipartisan decision was made to empty the state psychiatric facilities, large campuses, the equivalent of small towns stand vacant. We’ve learned a great deal since 1974. We have many more and effective psychotropic medications than the three we had then. Academic disciplines have focused and documented effective methodologies in the treatment of psychoses as well as the dynamics of community including architectural space. In other words, we could resuscitate these campuses, design them for their new purpose, house and support people with reference to their ability to function, and overall create a sustaining environment for people living precarious lives on the street. But, of course, this would be very expensive; much to great a price to ransom Jordan Neely.
There is a 1979 court decision that compels the city to provide adequate shelter for its homeless population. If we were to be overheard in 1978 discussing the plight of the homeless, whoever was listening would think we were delusional. The homeless population, despite the 1974 expulsion from state “homes” was negligible. It took Reagan’s diversion of money designated for public housing to commercial real estate and the beginnings of gentrification of Manhattan to accomplish this. Prior to gentrification, we had SRO (single room occupancy) welfare hotels with social and psychiatric services in the lobby for those willing to involve themselves. But we don't want those people living in immediate proximity to luxury high rises and we don't want to restore that housing elsewhere. Too high a price to pay for Jordan Neely’s life.
So,some kid on the subway where Jordan Neely was psychotically threatening people, is going to pay for his “heroic moment of rescue.” Two lives wasted, and we can assume the young ex-marine was not affluent; affluent people don’t become enlistees in the Marine Corps. Marines, by the way, are shock troops; they’re not regular Army, more on the continuum of Rangers, Special Forces, and Seals. The latter being so exquisitely trained in killing, that they are housed in segregated facilities at Mannheim military base in Germany, in case things get volatile. So we can thank Penny for his service, a service we trained him for, that he misapplied by taking things too far. Neely shouldn’t be dead; he should have been rescued long ago, but we wouldn’t pay the price. Penny will.
Yes fair question! Long story. It’s too much for us. We’re in our 70s with our own health issues. He does come to our house for hours most days. It’s good for him to live elsewhere in part to be prepared for when we are gone. He’s guarded and doesn’t talk much but he benefits from having to interact with others; it helps him push the voices aside and focus on reality. He was hospitalized about 10 times before now (in his 30s) being pretty stable and apparently happy enough.
"...part of the oppressor class..." Unfortunately the concept you have identified is an important part of the zeitgeist that has the approval of the NYT, NPR, the Dem Party et al and the jumped up NYC DA. has to jump to that tune.
New York to its citizens:
We won’t protect you, and don’t dare think of protecting yourselves.
I don’t agree with hero, and I wouldn’t call him a Good Samaritan, either. He intervened to aid people who were threatened, a brave and noble act. The result, unfortunately, caused the perpetrator to die because of the use of a chokehold and other mitigating factors (all controversial). It would have been heroic if a death didn’t occur, but it did, and we cannot look away from that either.
We haven’t seen the results of the autopsy have we? Have we seen the toxicology report?
By the title, I can guess that you truly are interested in continuing division and a lack of real solutions. I don't need to listen, because your perspective is in the title and I have already seen how terribly it's playing out. Our country is in desperate need of real solutions, which you're not prepared to offer. Come spend a day in a classroom like mine. Go do a ride along, in a challenging neighborhood. Go try to help someone dangerous, who doesn't want help. Then, maybe I'll listen.
Comparing Mr. Penny to a vigilante is an insult to the truth, you should know better. Mr. Lake’s word choice displays your bias towards the extreme Left. You’re a Democrat to your core.
Framing #1: Vigilante, Framing #2: Duty to Protect
While having dinner with a Maryland public school teacher, we spoke about the system & the children, some specifically. Their parents/guardians or complete lack thereof. Struggles and hopes and sad realizations, thieves of passion.
She showed me a scar from a few years ago, where a child took a bite from her hand. Life at 7 had left him fearful and void of trust. He was eventually sent to a class "better equipped" for his needs. Then hospitalized.
She spoke of another boy in the same second grade age-group, who had suffered traumas and was understandably difficult and disruptive. She visited him recently at his "hospital" to find him alone and in a padded room.
Here's a dedicated public teacher who has been at it for quite a while, recounting the babies moved into overcrowded, ill-equipped hospitals. Into our mental health system when their biggest worries should be on a playground. And I wonder why we don't hear more about them, these lost little ones. Before they become a Jordan Neely news story or another soul we understandably & routinely avoid on the street.
What I find astonishing is that stories like this bring out the need for good and watchful parenting right? Yet when good and watchful parents go to school board meetings because they’ve watched their children targeted by perverts in the public schools, they’re condemned.
Can’t have it both ways.