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Trish Wood's avatar

Bill Barr is an opportunist. Trump was in many ways a terrific president but he was vulgar which set off major pearl clutching by the self-satisfied elites. What about the millions of Americans who voted for him? Don't they deserve a proper election review?

Didn't they deserve to have 4 years of governance from the man they voted for without constant fake accusations from the Dems? Why aren't the people who created the Russia hoax - which traumatized and divided a nation -- going to jail? Barr in his own way is no better than Sam Harris. The people deserved to know the truth -- and Bill was a coward who wanted back on the DC/ Martha's Vineyard dinner party circuit. Not a hero. Not a genius just TDS in a Conservative suit. Trump is a flawed guy who brought peace and prosperity not to mention hope for the working class. I call bullshit on Bill Barr.

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JoAnne's avatar

Vulgar statements and tweets definitely explain the attitudes that will shape a policy. I voted for Trump the first time because of Hillary Clinton's statement "What does it matter (how they died)" because to have that sentiment about the death of an ambassador and his staff in Benghazi is a tell about how her administration would value the lives of people serving in the military. I also believe that her comments reflected a policy that cost US military and their allies lives in Afghanistan under Biden. Trumps vulgar tweets and statements were also a tell that cost him the election with thoughtful pearl clutchers!

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jt's avatar

I call bullshit, too.

"Trump is a flawed guy" is minimizing what he's done to the point that You've taken Mt. Everest and made it into a mole hill.

The guy was such a sore loser he tried to overthrow the election. That's not a flaw. That's a man who has the character of slime mold. He's still doing damage to this very day.

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Jan Petri's avatar

In 2016 a few days after the election, the Swamp (led by the FBI and CIA, and abetted by the DoD in collusion with the Democrat party and the Clinton campaign), created and circulated a fabricated assessment that concluded that Trump was a Russian asset. The point of this assessment was to delay or block Trump's inauguration. Nothing has been done to investigate this. Now, that is some bullshit.

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jt's avatar

That *sounds* like BS to me. But I wonder if that was referring to the Trump quote "talked" about on this thread: https://www.commonsense.news/p/bill-barr-calls-bullsht/comment/8631218 May or may not need to be an investigation.

But let us look at what actually *did* happen. Power was handed over peacefully. Trump was certified the elected leader and he took office.

That didn't happen Jan. 6.

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Trish Wood's avatar

After being called a Nazi, Putin collaborator, the dubious impeachment plus being the focus of a Dem controlled attack-dog media who lied constantly -- how would you behave?

Biden is also "slimey" in a multitude of likely criminal ways connected to Hunter, JFK was a sex addict who risked national security with his screwing around and Bush lied the country into a misbegotten war that killed hundreds of thousands and maimed and killed young Americans. Not to mention the PDB that warned of 9/11 before it happened that was ignored by Bush and Condi.

Trump's narcissism and Vegas-type bad taste plus sketchy business deals pre-Whitehouse aren't any worse than these guys. He's just not part of the club and threatens the on-the-take grift in DC.

Read the Time Magazine piece about how virtually everyone from Big Tech, to media, to all the DC muscle firms ganged up to ensure Trump lost. They actually proudly admit that. You actually believe given their hatred of him, they wouldn't have rigged the election.? You forget they rigged the primaries against Bernie.

Of course Trump was a sore loser. He felt he was cheated. Because of corrupt Dems and media nothing about his presidency was fair and that should be acknowledged regardless of how distasteful he is.

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ElleSD's avatar

Bravo!

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jt's avatar

I referred to that Time article elsewhere. You missed the point of the article.

Yeah, they rigged the primaries against Bernie, but they won the ability to do that in court. Turns out the DNC can run the primaries any way the wanna, no matter what.

How does that pertain to Trump running in '24?

All that about Biden is well and good, but it means nothing to me because the chances I'd ever vote for Biden are slim to none. The chance of me voting for Trump is from slim to less than zero, so there is that.

Okay, I acknowledge a lotta what he got was unfair. To the *extreme.* As Barr pointed out, You notice.

But how would *I* have behaved. That's pretty simple. Like an adult. That Trump couldn't, and probably never can, do that is really sad.

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