It’s been obvious that this was a lab leak for some time. Our government is full of corrupt, evil, lying fools. We need to protect our country from this government.
It’s been obvious that this was a lab leak for some time. Our government is full of corrupt, evil, lying fools. We need to protect our country from this government.
Trump first and the Biden had Fauci as the number one person on Covid. Neither one has acknowledged this colossal error. The lies and corruption are on both parties.
I don't think Trump realized what was going on. I'm guessing that he thought he could trust scientists. It's painful obvious now that he's not a very good judge of character.
The dissenting voices were there very early on( The Great Barrington Declaration) . The fact that Trump has no science background but knew full well about the corrupt deep state, it was his responsibility to hear from scientists who disagreed with Fauci. Yes he wanted to close the borders and use plaquenil( hydroxychloroquine) and ivermectin, but handing Fauci the reins was a n error of untold precautions. Acknowledging errors is a sign of strength NOT weakness.
I agree with everything said here about taking responsibility for errors and common sense. However, what I remember about spring of 2020 is continuous abuse and hounding of Trump by democrats. Non stop. Whatever he did caused outrage and insane accusations in racism and god knows what else. And he still stood his ground on some issues and to some extend. I cannot imagine anyone in his place could do better.
I remember at the time that there was some discussions about Trump wanting to fire Fauci....and iffn he had, he prolly would have had another impeachment hearing to answer to...
the beatification of St Fauci was quick and complete
Yes, I watched on C-Span the early WH briefings and I saw that deference to the “experts”. It’s hard to think what else could he have done.... and of course we are all genius in retrospect... this piece is a good timed process, I’ll use it this fall when teaching scientific integrity in my class.
Trump isn’t in the medical field, so he has to trust people who are to tell him the threats. Who better than the heads of the governmental medical establishment? At this point, the answer is obvious: anyone ~but~ them. At the time, though, there was an apparent crisis, and he bought time the best ways he knew. He didn’t profit from it in any way, despite being hounded and menaced by dems, most notably Elizabeth Warren who ominously promised “we’ll be watching.”
In truth, though, who would you choose to empower in a pandemic? It’s not obvious, is it? Trump had no prior dealings with Collins or Fauci, so there was no a priori reason to mistrust them. Not until things became draconian—and wildly hypocritical—did people start to scratch their heads and say “something’s not quite right here.” The press, alas, didn’t scratch much at all. They seemed to get on the bandwagon and help the folks who figured out that bossing people around was great fun. Regardless of outcome.
The problem I have with that is that much of what we were being told defied common sense. And apparently Trump lacked sufficient common sense to question it strongly enough and early enough.
He wanted to close the borders and was pilloried for the idea. He advocated ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin and was called an idiot. At least give him credit for that. Hindsight is 20/20, who could have realized Fauci was corrupt when you are dealing with daily body counts?
Yeah, you're right about the border closures. A lot of countries did that and didn't get called racist for the idea. Yet another demonstration of the fact that Covid policy was driven by ideology, not logic or science.
Your claim that "the lies and corruption are on both parties." It was Democrats who worshipped Fauci, covered for China, pushed the mandatory vaccinations, , the masking, the "passports," etc. Republicans were stupid and partially complicit but the Dems are 100% in bed with China. From Biden taking laundered ChiCom cash to Swalwell sleeping with with Fang Fang.
Republicans were the main proponents of outsourcing all of our manufacturing to China under the guise of the "free market" (and probably to destroy unions). Now that we're beholden to China for computer chips and the manufacture of almost everything else we use on a daily basis, we have to couch what we say about them.
Dems weren't much better with their neoliberal nonsense.
Trump promised to bring jobs back to the USA, but in the end simply slapped tariffs on a few things here and there that, so far, doesn't seem to have made much difference.
The government now is an oligarchy. There's a reason the wealthy give to both parties (some do give more to one than the other). Public servants making ~$200K a year in Congress end up as multimillionaires. Those supposed to be regulating things ignore abuses, then end up with plum consulting gigs. I don't trust either party at this point.
There is good reason to distrust Republicans, not least of which is that the leader in the Senate's circuits just shorted out. On the other hand, Democrats have an irrefutable history of corruption and are now in the hands of complete lunatics. So Republicans are the saner party, if only by degree.
Sorry, but Trump was president during most of the pandemic. He chose to believe Fauci instead of the Great Barrington people, and he is responsible for that decision.
Agree! You may like my articles I've written on the topic.
I wrote this article which towards the bottom, I discuss how the ideology of America and what it stood for has been secretly destroyed right before our very eyes:
My argument is, once we can begin to see who is really behind the show and understand the policies that our country is going in, we come to terms to what's really happening. Once we know that, we can take true action that has real results.
Here's another article I recommend. It drives home the truth of the matter. It's called, "Are we Governed, or being Ruled:
It’s been obvious that this was a lab leak for some time. Our government is full of corrupt, evil, lying fools. We need to protect our country from this government.
Trump first and the Biden had Fauci as the number one person on Covid. Neither one has acknowledged this colossal error. The lies and corruption are on both parties.
I don't think Trump realized what was going on. I'm guessing that he thought he could trust scientists. It's painful obvious now that he's not a very good judge of character.
The dissenting voices were there very early on( The Great Barrington Declaration) . The fact that Trump has no science background but knew full well about the corrupt deep state, it was his responsibility to hear from scientists who disagreed with Fauci. Yes he wanted to close the borders and use plaquenil( hydroxychloroquine) and ivermectin, but handing Fauci the reins was a n error of untold precautions. Acknowledging errors is a sign of strength NOT weakness.
I agree with everything said here about taking responsibility for errors and common sense. However, what I remember about spring of 2020 is continuous abuse and hounding of Trump by democrats. Non stop. Whatever he did caused outrage and insane accusations in racism and god knows what else. And he still stood his ground on some issues and to some extend. I cannot imagine anyone in his place could do better.
I remember at the time that there was some discussions about Trump wanting to fire Fauci....and iffn he had, he prolly would have had another impeachment hearing to answer to...
the beatification of St Fauci was quick and complete
Yes, I watched on C-Span the early WH briefings and I saw that deference to the “experts”. It’s hard to think what else could he have done.... and of course we are all genius in retrospect... this piece is a good timed process, I’ll use it this fall when teaching scientific integrity in my class.
Trump isn’t in the medical field, so he has to trust people who are to tell him the threats. Who better than the heads of the governmental medical establishment? At this point, the answer is obvious: anyone ~but~ them. At the time, though, there was an apparent crisis, and he bought time the best ways he knew. He didn’t profit from it in any way, despite being hounded and menaced by dems, most notably Elizabeth Warren who ominously promised “we’ll be watching.”
In truth, though, who would you choose to empower in a pandemic? It’s not obvious, is it? Trump had no prior dealings with Collins or Fauci, so there was no a priori reason to mistrust them. Not until things became draconian—and wildly hypocritical—did people start to scratch their heads and say “something’s not quite right here.” The press, alas, didn’t scratch much at all. They seemed to get on the bandwagon and help the folks who figured out that bossing people around was great fun. Regardless of outcome.
The problem I have with that is that much of what we were being told defied common sense. And apparently Trump lacked sufficient common sense to question it strongly enough and early enough.
He wanted to close the borders and was pilloried for the idea. He advocated ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin and was called an idiot. At least give him credit for that. Hindsight is 20/20, who could have realized Fauci was corrupt when you are dealing with daily body counts?
And he wanted to open the country up by Easter.
I agree but I still regard Fauci as Trump's responsibility and his greatest failure.
Yeah, you're right about the border closures. A lot of countries did that and didn't get called racist for the idea. Yet another demonstration of the fact that Covid policy was driven by ideology, not logic or science.
Nonsense.
What is nonsense?
Your claim that "the lies and corruption are on both parties." It was Democrats who worshipped Fauci, covered for China, pushed the mandatory vaccinations, , the masking, the "passports," etc. Republicans were stupid and partially complicit but the Dems are 100% in bed with China. From Biden taking laundered ChiCom cash to Swalwell sleeping with with Fang Fang.
Republicans were the main proponents of outsourcing all of our manufacturing to China under the guise of the "free market" (and probably to destroy unions). Now that we're beholden to China for computer chips and the manufacture of almost everything else we use on a daily basis, we have to couch what we say about them.
Dems weren't much better with their neoliberal nonsense.
Trump promised to bring jobs back to the USA, but in the end simply slapped tariffs on a few things here and there that, so far, doesn't seem to have made much difference.
The government now is an oligarchy. There's a reason the wealthy give to both parties (some do give more to one than the other). Public servants making ~$200K a year in Congress end up as multimillionaires. Those supposed to be regulating things ignore abuses, then end up with plum consulting gigs. I don't trust either party at this point.
There is good reason to distrust Republicans, not least of which is that the leader in the Senate's circuits just shorted out. On the other hand, Democrats have an irrefutable history of corruption and are now in the hands of complete lunatics. So Republicans are the saner party, if only by degree.
Sorry Bruce but even now Trump is criticizing lockdown opponents( DeSantis, Kemp). He also honored Fauci his last day in office.
Sorry, but Trump was president during most of the pandemic. He chose to believe Fauci instead of the Great Barrington people, and he is responsible for that decision.
The Great Barrington people were late to the party
He did have one doctor on board who pushed back. But by then it was too little too late.
Most of the pandemic?!? He was in office for 10 months of the pandemic, not close to ‘most.’
If Trump had said anything disparaging or dared to ignore Fauci, the Dems would have impeached him
They impeached him anyway. They really didn't need a reason.
Again???
Agree! You may like my articles I've written on the topic.
I wrote this article which towards the bottom, I discuss how the ideology of America and what it stood for has been secretly destroyed right before our very eyes:
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/why-esoteric-philosophy-is-vital-329
And in this article, I try to discuss "who" I think may be behind this undermining of the country:
https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/who-are-the-bad-guys
My argument is, once we can begin to see who is really behind the show and understand the policies that our country is going in, we come to terms to what's really happening. Once we know that, we can take true action that has real results.
Here's another article I recommend. It drives home the truth of the matter. It's called, "Are we Governed, or being Ruled:
https://monica697.substack.com/p/are-we-governed-or-are-we-ruled-part