Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins. --Benjamin Franklin 1737 -- still true today.
Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins. --Benjamin Franklin 1737 -- still true today.
It went beyond free speech when it effectively shut down legitimate scientific discourse from (now over 900,000) scientists and clinicians. That should scare the shit out of everybody.
Being a physician and scientist did not inform my first impression that Covid-19 may have originated in a level 4 virology lab in Wuhan. I began looking seriously at the behavior of the virus in February 2020 when TWITTER kicked ZeroHedge (a financial site with 670K followers) off the platform for reporting on a likely lab leak instead of animal (at that time Pangolin, now debunked) reservoir and transmission to humans of this bat virus. How did Twitter know this was disinformation in February 2020? Ignorance or intentional? Twitter had said тАЬthose who engage in coordinated attempts to spread disinformation at scale about coronavirus issue will be removed from service.тАЭ And that was that. Now that it is clear that "operative" twitter employees of all sorts were privy to open and DM data inside of twitter, there is no doubt in my mind that ZeroHedge was not kicked off for disinformation, but rather for "real information" that the CCP (and likely our own government bureaucrats) did not want our citizens to see. It was a threat lobbed at any who might want to question the origin of the virus. This is not just suppression of free speech, but a crime scene indeed. I hope one of the investigative reporters is following this sinister trail.
I still donтАЩt know what possible motive our Fed govt could have тАЬhidingтАЭ the origins of the virus....we had already unfriended China, so their loyalty wasnтАЩt a motive. I think maybe people exaggerate the importance of Covid origins. Scientifically, itтАЩs important, but as a social/political tool, I donтАЩt get it. The issue is overhyped.
Imagine a company or companies being responsible for the most deadly man made environmental disaster ever seen by humanity. Imagine those companies being the largest sponsor of our media watchdogs. Imagine them also being the largest contributors to politicians, Democrat and Republicans. Imagine this disaster causing the entire world to slip into a recession, and causing commerce and education to be completely shut down for two years. Imagine the world being isolated at home watching on television the very programming that is primarily supported by that industry. Keyword is "programming".
Now imagine those same companies being hired to clean up the mess that they have made, and doing so in a manner that itself injures additional parties.
Now imagine these companies sending you a bill amounting to billions of dollars for their haphazard cleanup work. Imagine our government having the audacity to pay that bill, with the money of the victims.
Pfizer opened an R&D lab in the Wuhan research center in 2009. Pfizer is the biggest sponsor of nightly news. Pfizer is one of the largest contributors to political campaigns, both Democrat or Republican. Gain of Function is done for the benefit of Pharmaceutical companies. Who would bite the hand that feeds them?
In my humble opinion, blaming China is not taking into account that Gain of Function research was conceived to benefit the Pharmaceutical industry. The Pharma people were in a cooperative effort with the Chinese Scientists. The "lab leak" if it happened, could just as easily come from the Pfizer lab.
It is certainly worth investigating an issue with the potential to kill us all next time.
Linked below is a video containing a very a very comprehensive discussion of the topic, however even it does not address the fact that the research is for the benefit of the pharmaceutical industry. I would encourage everyone to watch it whether you like the parties involved or not.
This link begins at at the mid point of discussion, at the crux of the issue in my opinion. Feel free to watch the entire thing.
I agree. When I refer to a Wuhan lab implicit in that is in cooperation with "the science" in this country. It seems to.me that a lot of folks too intelligent to believe in God sure enjoy playing god.
The stated purpose is to be able to predict the next pandemic and to prepare a vaccine for it in advance. That has been proven to be unfeasible. It is impossible to predict what natural virus will appear next. Scientists have challenged the feasibility of gain-of-function for the stated purpose.
The only known use for it so far is to produce viruses that do not appear in nature. AKA Biowarfare with the added benefit to Big Pharma. They did a hasty cleanup and sent us the bill. Billions.
Think of the BP spill. Would we pay BP to clean it up? Now think over 5 billion dead and the entire planet affected. The single biggest man made environmental disaster in history. No oil spill has ever affected so many so severely.
This needs to be halted immediately. At a minimum it should never be done in the midst of a crowded city. Unless of course you want the inhabitants to be used as your proof of concept.
I fully agree. We need to take a hard look at medical and scientific ethics. IMO we need to determine what kind of world we want and what tinkering with it will and will not be allowed. And this is not a left/right issue. Obama banned gain-of-function and the odious Fauci funded it anyway. He says he did not know but if he really did not he should have. The Chinese and Russians scare me. The Chinese have already produced a human chimera that survived 8 days. Who knows what the Russians are doing now but they have performed genetic experiments for decades.
I'm still in absolute shock that social media rolled out its censorship program by silencing people warning about COVID, because "the WHO has not yet declared it a pandemic."
Their censorship of the truth directly influenced public policy in a way that left the country unprepared for catastrophe, and half of the country thought that was fine and that social media should also censor qualified scientists, or anybody whatsoever who contradicts Democrat propaganda.
I don't think there is a single principle on which this country was founded that Democrats are not actively working to undermine and destroy.
He was criticizing liberal control of social media not any administration. Conservatives were not and do not dominate social media administration. The left does and they were happy to block tweets and accounts that challenged their hegemony on the "truth."
You are correct. Both Democrats and Republicans, even President Trump, allowed the Pharmaceutical industry to take over control. I was shocked that Trump allowed Fauci to remain in a position of authority. That alone made me lose faith in Trump during the pandemic. I now support DeSantis as the current front runner.
Blame will not get us anywhere. We must demand an investigation. This transcends partisan politics. This political divide is another product of our esteemed media "watchdogs", all of whom are "Brought to you by Pfizer".
A true grass roots outcry will be needed. Media will not cover it. Perhaps online, on Twitter, et al.
Lee Morris, please. There is a very powerful and influential group of people called The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, whose entire purpose of existence is to prevent and control disease.
These people pushed trash science, Chinese propaganda, nonsense policies, and harsh punishment for anybody who speaking out for the truth.
The blame for an out of control disease we failed to prevent is 100% on The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Which is overwhelmingly Democrat, especially in its leadership, along with the leadership of other federal health agencies.
Mike Pence was one of the only people in the entire government who actually had a competent response. While the CDC rolled out a disastrously failed testing program, Pence used the FDA to cut red tape and go around them to get millions of tests underway. The CDC were furious. That was when the CDC press conferences said "we aren't seeing evidence of community spread" - because their testing program was a failure and they had no eyes on the ground.
Meanwhile I ran around Seattle for two month warning everybody who would listen to stop travelling to major events, while the locals told me I wasn't an expert and the Democrat media publicly declared me a "right wing conspiracy theorist" for warning people about the virus.
At the time, Joe Biden was publicly advocating for allowing the virus over the border. "Don't listen to Trump's hysterical, xenophobic fear mongering" was the exact quote.
I'm not saying the CDC were saints, or even competent. They were probably more wrong than right - but of course 20/20 hindsight does help. They turned themselves into pretzels on masks, against them, for them. School lockdowns, no. Then yes, Then no again. Then yes. It was a fifty state fuck up. Right?
If you were warning about the virus early on, good on you. You were being responsible, and prescient.
Pence was right - and even Trump (I hate saying it), he got a fast track vaccine in place (and I don't know how you feel about that).
But being unprepared as a country? Both parties own that.
Now we getting closer to the truth Anthony, IтАЩm not surprised that it has come from you. The Democrats had to get rid of President Trump, they had been trying to since his inauguration. Covid was a perfect storm for them. The rest as they say is history. We have 2 years to take America back please God we can!
There are lots. I am sure some will question the sources but no defamation suits have been filed and she is not a "public person" so should have the benefit of that protection if it is not true. The deposition referred to was late November, 2022 and he said she had left Twitter "over a year ago" so that mean she was there during a critical period. She was a software engineer and my impression.is that she was at Twitter well before the covid outbreak.
Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins. --Benjamin Franklin 1737 -- still true today.
It went beyond free speech when it effectively shut down legitimate scientific discourse from (now over 900,000) scientists and clinicians. That should scare the shit out of everybody.
Being a physician and scientist did not inform my first impression that Covid-19 may have originated in a level 4 virology lab in Wuhan. I began looking seriously at the behavior of the virus in February 2020 when TWITTER kicked ZeroHedge (a financial site with 670K followers) off the platform for reporting on a likely lab leak instead of animal (at that time Pangolin, now debunked) reservoir and transmission to humans of this bat virus. How did Twitter know this was disinformation in February 2020? Ignorance or intentional? Twitter had said тАЬthose who engage in coordinated attempts to spread disinformation at scale about coronavirus issue will be removed from service.тАЭ And that was that. Now that it is clear that "operative" twitter employees of all sorts were privy to open and DM data inside of twitter, there is no doubt in my mind that ZeroHedge was not kicked off for disinformation, but rather for "real information" that the CCP (and likely our own government bureaucrats) did not want our citizens to see. It was a threat lobbed at any who might want to question the origin of the virus. This is not just suppression of free speech, but a crime scene indeed. I hope one of the investigative reporters is following this sinister trail.
I still donтАЩt know what possible motive our Fed govt could have тАЬhidingтАЭ the origins of the virus....we had already unfriended China, so their loyalty wasnтАЩt a motive. I think maybe people exaggerate the importance of Covid origins. Scientifically, itтАЩs important, but as a social/political tool, I donтАЩt get it. The issue is overhyped.
Imagine a company or companies being responsible for the most deadly man made environmental disaster ever seen by humanity. Imagine those companies being the largest sponsor of our media watchdogs. Imagine them also being the largest contributors to politicians, Democrat and Republicans. Imagine this disaster causing the entire world to slip into a recession, and causing commerce and education to be completely shut down for two years. Imagine the world being isolated at home watching on television the very programming that is primarily supported by that industry. Keyword is "programming".
Now imagine those same companies being hired to clean up the mess that they have made, and doing so in a manner that itself injures additional parties.
Now imagine these companies sending you a bill amounting to billions of dollars for their haphazard cleanup work. Imagine our government having the audacity to pay that bill, with the money of the victims.
You have summed the situation up very accurately.
Pfizer opened an R&D lab in the Wuhan research center in 2009. Pfizer is the biggest sponsor of nightly news. Pfizer is one of the largest contributors to political campaigns, both Democrat or Republican. Gain of Function is done for the benefit of Pharmaceutical companies. Who would bite the hand that feeds them?
In my humble opinion, blaming China is not taking into account that Gain of Function research was conceived to benefit the Pharmaceutical industry. The Pharma people were in a cooperative effort with the Chinese Scientists. The "lab leak" if it happened, could just as easily come from the Pfizer lab.
https://www.pharmatimes.com/news/pfizer_to_build_r_and_d_facility_in_wuhan,_china_984211
but...but...no...says snopes..
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-glaxo-own-the-wuhan-lab/
You have virtually unpacked the truth in one post
Perhaps.
It is certainly worth investigating an issue with the potential to kill us all next time.
Linked below is a video containing a very a very comprehensive discussion of the topic, however even it does not address the fact that the research is for the benefit of the pharmaceutical industry. I would encourage everyone to watch it whether you like the parties involved or not.
This link begins at at the mid point of discussion, at the crux of the issue in my opinion. Feel free to watch the entire thing.
"Looking for a gas leak with a lighted match"
https://youtu.be/FEh5JyZC218?t=2207
I agree. When I refer to a Wuhan lab implicit in that is in cooperation with "the science" in this country. It seems to.me that a lot of folks too intelligent to believe in God sure enjoy playing god.
Because they are culpable! DonтАЩt forget there was a (supposed?) 3 year moratorium on GoF research that the NIH lifted in 2017.
1. China researching gain of function in viruses, funded partly by the U.S.
2. Virus escapes lab in Wuhan, infecting billions and killing millions worldwide.
3. Draconian response globally basically stops the world economy for a year.
If the above are true, how could anyone UNDER exaggerate Covid origins?
Plus to this day we do not know what it is and what it is designed to do.
The stated purpose is to be able to predict the next pandemic and to prepare a vaccine for it in advance. That has been proven to be unfeasible. It is impossible to predict what natural virus will appear next. Scientists have challenged the feasibility of gain-of-function for the stated purpose.
The only known use for it so far is to produce viruses that do not appear in nature. AKA Biowarfare with the added benefit to Big Pharma. They did a hasty cleanup and sent us the bill. Billions.
Think of the BP spill. Would we pay BP to clean it up? Now think over 5 billion dead and the entire planet affected. The single biggest man made environmental disaster in history. No oil spill has ever affected so many so severely.
This needs to be halted immediately. At a minimum it should never be done in the midst of a crowded city. Unless of course you want the inhabitants to be used as your proof of concept.
I fully agree. We need to take a hard look at medical and scientific ethics. IMO we need to determine what kind of world we want and what tinkering with it will and will not be allowed. And this is not a left/right issue. Obama banned gain-of-function and the odious Fauci funded it anyway. He says he did not know but if he really did not he should have. The Chinese and Russians scare me. The Chinese have already produced a human chimera that survived 8 days. Who knows what the Russians are doing now but they have performed genetic experiments for decades.
Even the vaccine is crap Lynne. The legacy media says otherwise.
Because American taxpayers paid for it.
I'm still in absolute shock that social media rolled out its censorship program by silencing people warning about COVID, because "the WHO has not yet declared it a pandemic."
Their censorship of the truth directly influenced public policy in a way that left the country unprepared for catastrophe, and half of the country thought that was fine and that social media should also censor qualified scientists, or anybody whatsoever who contradicts Democrat propaganda.
I don't think there is a single principle on which this country was founded that Democrats are not actively working to undermine and destroy.
Anthony, please. The first year of Covid, or close to it, was under a Republican President. Remember his daily press conferences?
You're saying we were 'unprepared for catastrophe'. You are right. I'm sure the three prior administrations were to blame - of which two were GOP.
Let's spread the blame. Just a little bit.
He was criticizing liberal control of social media not any administration. Conservatives were not and do not dominate social media administration. The left does and they were happy to block tweets and accounts that challenged their hegemony on the "truth."
Lee Morris,
You are correct. Both Democrats and Republicans, even President Trump, allowed the Pharmaceutical industry to take over control. I was shocked that Trump allowed Fauci to remain in a position of authority. That alone made me lose faith in Trump during the pandemic. I now support DeSantis as the current front runner.
Blame will not get us anywhere. We must demand an investigation. This transcends partisan politics. This political divide is another product of our esteemed media "watchdogs", all of whom are "Brought to you by Pfizer".
A true grass roots outcry will be needed. Media will not cover it. Perhaps online, on Twitter, et al.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuL6bSb8diQ
Lee Morris, please. There is a very powerful and influential group of people called The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, whose entire purpose of existence is to prevent and control disease.
These people pushed trash science, Chinese propaganda, nonsense policies, and harsh punishment for anybody who speaking out for the truth.
The blame for an out of control disease we failed to prevent is 100% on The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Which is overwhelmingly Democrat, especially in its leadership, along with the leadership of other federal health agencies.
Mike Pence was one of the only people in the entire government who actually had a competent response. While the CDC rolled out a disastrously failed testing program, Pence used the FDA to cut red tape and go around them to get millions of tests underway. The CDC were furious. That was when the CDC press conferences said "we aren't seeing evidence of community spread" - because their testing program was a failure and they had no eyes on the ground.
Meanwhile I ran around Seattle for two month warning everybody who would listen to stop travelling to major events, while the locals told me I wasn't an expert and the Democrat media publicly declared me a "right wing conspiracy theorist" for warning people about the virus.
At the time, Joe Biden was publicly advocating for allowing the virus over the border. "Don't listen to Trump's hysterical, xenophobic fear mongering" was the exact quote.
And he got elected president.
You can't fix that kind of stupidity.
I'm not saying the CDC were saints, or even competent. They were probably more wrong than right - but of course 20/20 hindsight does help. They turned themselves into pretzels on masks, against them, for them. School lockdowns, no. Then yes, Then no again. Then yes. It was a fifty state fuck up. Right?
If you were warning about the virus early on, good on you. You were being responsible, and prescient.
Pence was right - and even Trump (I hate saying it), he got a fast track vaccine in place (and I don't know how you feel about that).
But being unprepared as a country? Both parties own that.
And are we unprepared for the next one? Yep.
Just my opinion.
Now we getting closer to the truth Anthony, IтАЩm not surprised that it has come from you. The Democrats had to get rid of President Trump, they had been trying to since his inauguration. Covid was a perfect storm for them. The rest as they say is history. We have 2 years to take America back please God we can!
I have read that Dr. Fauci's daughter was employed at Twitter during the height of the pandemic.
Just curious. Can you cite the source for that piece of information?
There are lots. I am sure some will question the sources but no defamation suits have been filed and she is not a "public person" so should have the benefit of that protection if it is not true. The deposition referred to was late November, 2022 and he said she had left Twitter "over a year ago" so that mean she was there during a critical period. She was a software engineer and my impression.is that she was at Twitter well before the covid outbreak.
https://thepostmillennial.com/faucis-daughter-worked-for-twitter-during-pandemic-deposition-reveals
https://nationalfile.com/faucis-daughter-ali-fauci-is-a-software-engineer-for-twitter/