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J W Bone's avatar

I am a staunch red-blooded white male (with a penis) conservative. I subscribed knowing BW is a liberal/progressive. BW shows that even liberals can tell the truth, especially when they have been stomped on themselves. Show us where it hurts, Bari.

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Comprof2.0's avatar

Bari, who started at the Wall Street Journal, is far from a liberal/progressive

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J W Bone's avatar

Anyone who would WANT to work at the NY Times is a liberal. Other than guest editorials (conservative) why would anyone want to read the NYT? I mean really. If you don't think the NYT is working with the Biden admin then you are not only a liberal, you're an idiot liberal

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Comprof2.0's avatar

Well....maybe one day Conservative/GOP will develop newspapers, TV Networks, magazines, think tanks, etc. that will "work" with them as well and help even the playing field.

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Unsaint Finbar's avatar

In what respect is Liberalism not rooted in an ability to tolerate difference, to engage with it honestly, and to remain open in a meaningful way to genuine diversity?

I think Bari IS a liberal, and as such progressive, since dialogue and emotional honesty are at the root of all genuine and lasting progress. I disagree with many of her positions, to the extent I understand them, but grant her sincerity.

YOU are not a liberal. You are not sincere. You don't change your mind when confronted with facts. You do not seem to honestly want to improve the world, but rather to defend a quasi-religious faith that is based on relentless lies.

Like racist, all the -phobes, justice, tolerance, diversity and even truth, liberal no longer means anything. As I think Lewis Carroll had his Red Queen say, words for you mean only what you want them to mean, which is to say whatever suits your momentary whim and political--which is to say power hungry--purpose.

I will leave it there, and leave you to whatever disingenuous follow up suits you today.

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J W Bone's avatar

Barry, I think you should just write nonsense, like Alice in Wonderland. It would make more sense that what I just read

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Unsaint Finbar's avatar

What I hear you saying is that you disagree strongly, but on the basis of a childish emotionality that cannot communicate using adult language, and thus want to compare it to the first seemingly absurd analogy you can come up with.

But it's a bit ironic that you would choose Alice in Wonderland, which in many respects is a satire of how genuinely puerile minds do what they call "thinking".

Good examples would be how the Red Queen tries to believe two impossible things before breakfast every morning, and how words mean exactly what she says they mean, nothing more, nothing less.

That is the leftist mindset in a nutshell, which is very certainly an apt analogy.

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Honey Daly's avatar

Barry, I appreciate your response, but you realize (I know) you are feeding the troll. Facts and common sense donтАЩt matter.

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Lee Morris's avatar

Have you noticed that, even though you and many others think 2.0 is a troll, he's had a lot of likes lately?

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MG's avatar

No, I haven't noticed that. Define "a lot" please.

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Lee Morris's avatar

Four likes when there used to be zero. You have to start somewhere..

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Comprof2.0's avatar

I've also gotten likes from Nellie and Suzy in the past as well. I'm extremely popular.

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Unsaint Finbar's avatar

Yes. But I like a few hits at the line before I let the troll run its route.

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Comprof2.0's avatar

Lol. Sure, Barry....you're doing great, sweetie.

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Comprof2.0's avatar

Bari does not tolerate difference, engage honestly, nor remain open in a meaningful way to "genuine diversity" (whatever the hell that means)

She has a long history of trying to cancel people and consistently engages in selective moral outrage and rehabilitation attempts of bad people.

Yep. Not a liberal. That is correct. However, am exceptionally sincere in not falling for hyperbolic moral panics and people minding their own damn business if it doesn't effect you.

You, nor anyone on here, have provided any "facts" on anything. Just more Satanic Panic 2.0

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Unsaint Finbar's avatar

I've never had a comment pulled, and I have said what I think. That is not true of HuffPo. Media Matters, the Daily Kos, my local newspaper, or a host of other sites, where I am banned for saying the sorts of things I say here, in the same way, using the same words. I am very consistent. It's not hard to be consistent, when your views are based on extensive reading, logical analysis, firm principles, and emotional maturity.

Although, I suppose being a consistent Leftist is not hard either. You just say what you are told to say each day, and hit the reset button every night, just in case you need to have believed firmly all your life what you were attacking the day before.

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Mike R.'s avatar

Barry---For myself, some of the problem we're all facing is that the narrative no longer fits the reality and that is making our attempts to separate the disease from the symptom ever more difficult. The human landscape inside us doesn't match the inhuman landscape our eyes are witnessing.

It has ever been "..rules for thee not for me..." but the sudden expansion of consciousness and the transparency brought on by the leap in tech has frightened and exposed the rigged gamers of the political/financial realm and they're scrambling to put a lid on it. This new age is rapidly outstripping "ism's" and labels of every kind. The European, Australian and Canadian peoples have already entered the dystopian world of the EU/Davos CCP styled re-education center, thought/speech crime arrest, and the travel permitted 15 minute city where euthanasia for the troubled citizen is encouraged and available to all. In America, the natural chaos and social disintegration resulting from rigged game economic looting and a collapsing infrastructure, all contributed to and supported the planned destruction of the necessary middle class, that held the extreme politics of criminal finance in check.

We live inside a lie and the perps have already tripled down. "We the people.." and our every institution is compromised, surveilled and managed. In my view our only engine of survival is the Republic and the Constitution. It is the only human frame of reference standing. As in Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia and Mao's China the forces controlling finance and politics exist squarely in the realm of the pathological. Even more frightening is the growing belief in violence and cataclysm as the way forward. It amounts to what primitive peoples term a "loss of Soul". Subsumed by a lie, anomie and hopelessness and the propagandist shadow "othering" being encouraged by the psyop, America is becoming a tinderbox. We all see it and feel it. To paraphrase Leonard Cohen: "it's coming from a feel..that it ain't exactly real..or it's real but it ain't exactly there..".

This little fire in the darkness we call subscription journalism is important. Truth and facts are powerful weapons. As I've said before, it isn't metaphor to say that truth is light because it literally is. Its palpable emotional impact on individual human reality proves the existence of the Psyche. This "Tower of Babel" reality we inhabit is demanding a redefinition of everything.

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CBL's avatar

Wish I could upvote this many more times.

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Comprof2.0's avatar

I'm not talking about the FP discussion board. So, what you claim to have "pulled" or not is actually irrelevant. Was that suppossed to be another "hit at the line?"

Talking about Bari's long history of trying to cancel people, engaging in selective outrage and attempt to rehabilitate bad people.

Not a "Leftists" dude. I think you're being told to call anyone who does not agree with you or this ideological echo-chamber a "Leftists" and you just hit the reset button every night. That's the only thing you're consistent on, which is pretty pathetic.

But hey if you want to claim it's based on your "extensive reading" and "logical analysis"...lol...go right ahead.

I have been consistent since day one:

1. 95% of this discussion board and FP articles are Satanic Panic 2.0

2. Trump finally revealed the GOP base for who they are/have been since 1965. Which is why he will win the nomination.

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