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Alan G's avatar

Money talks . There should be a coordinated effort by alums to not give a penny for 5 years . Do it every university in the country .

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Robbin Close's avatar

My husband and I have not given money to our universities since this disgusting woke nonsense started. I was volunteering and evaluating incoming FreshmanтАЩs applications for grants for several years. I stopped giving my time. Take a stand people.

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Mark Adams's avatar

Agreed. IтАЩm from an elite law school and quit donating years ago when it had slid too far leftward for me. Now, judging from the alumni magazine, itтАЩs simply a factory churning out social justice warriors.

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Jon's avatar

My alumni magazine goes right in the trash, along with the copy my wife gets. Pretty sure my oldest daughter's does too.

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Jonathan Weinberg's avatar

I agree. I stopped donating to Princeton several years ago for more or less the same reason.

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Naomi's avatar

It might be a salubrious lesson to Princeton (and other universities) to send them a letter once a year reminding them as to why you will no longer donate. Wouldn't hurt to send that letter to the letters to the editor of a publication. Send to several and one may print it.

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Passion guided by reason's avatar

I like that as a movement. A single letter would mean nothing. But if they received many letters every year (comparable to the number of ongoing donors), then when they got into a budget crunch in the future, some administrator will have to look at that as an "untapped market". A bit like the "get woke, go broke" concept in other markets.

Lots of people complained to Netflix about what seemed to be an incipient bias, but it wasn't until other market factors made them hungry for retaining subscriptions that they decided to stop catering to that one viewpoint. They didn't become right wing, but more strongly supported diverse viewpoints for a mixed audience.

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Naomi's avatar

I canceled Netflix when they launched Cuties. I am against child sexual exploitation.

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Skinny's avatar

A letter will make no difference all that will do is get you cancelled the print and MSM media will hunt you down and kill you without posting a Facebook post or a tweet we need somebody powerful to stand up and say you carry on like this there is no more federal funding instead we have Brandon who keeps telling us about the Great Reset the green economy Transition and how bad MAGA people are We have had more shocking tragedies in the past week that have shaken us to our core all we have had from the administration is itтАЩs the gun lobby the NRA, how many guns per family Americans own not a peep about security in schools or how to lock your school up after classes have started no surveillance no fencing etc we have spent billions of $$$ on cleaning material PPE even after schools werenтАЩt allowed to go back or once back an outbreak again billions of $$$ on cleaning again but nothing on security even after Sandy Hook which happen 10 years ago the parents should sue the government they just donтАЩt care

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Naomi's avatar

And if you donтАЩt want them to know your identity- write it anonymously. ThatтАЩs better than not sending it at all.

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Skinny's avatar

ItтАЩs worse they will just throw it in the bin and call the anonymous person a coward a racist a bigot anything else you can think of for not putting your name to it

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Naomi's avatar

That's cowardly.

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publius_x's avatar

That's what they're used to. Think of all the people who swept Katz under the rug anonymously.

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Peter Wan's avatar

I agree, but then there are the endowments. The DEI apparatchiks wield the power, and access to those enormous endowments.

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Skinny's avatar

YES!!! Tax them to death like they tax us

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Bruce Miller's avatar

Tax their damned endowments.

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Gretchen Grace's avatar

Right! Speaking of тАЬpaying their fair shareтАЭ тАж.

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ButTheDataSays's avatar

This is an entirely different topic, and one I hope Bari and her amazing network will go harder after, but the bastardization of тАЬnot for profitsтАЭ is ridiculous. I believe the only hope for this country is repealing the 16th amendment, so debating tax policy is a little ridiculous for me, but if weтАЩre going to have a federal tax code the idea that you can donate to essentially yourself (university endowments for your childrens future or better sports tickets or access you can only buy, etcтАж or the тАЬbill and Melinda gates foundationтАЭ which is literally a donation to yourself) and take massive tax deductions for doing so is absolutely ridiculous

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Skinny's avatar

ItтАЩs bizarre itтАЩs a shy show these foundations get tax breaks that are beyond belief

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Michael Frankel's avatar

Dear data, you mean have them pay their "fair share?"

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ButTheDataSays's avatar

A lot to unpack in a short question - as I stated, I donтАЩt believe the federal government should tax itтАЩs citizens so in my faux reality their fair share would be 0%.

But my opinion on such a thing is only as relevant as my 1/150M voting share so pay federal taxes we shall. And in a world where we pay federal taxes - yes, I do believe everyone should pay their тАЬfair share,тАЭ though that has wildly different definitions to different people so I will state it thusly; the single greatest indicator of a regressive society is unjust application of the law. In a country that now has as many laws as we do (cause all these idiots we pay for have to do something with this time so they might as well make up laws to make everything worse) it is impossible for them to be justly applied and justly enforced. If we are going to have a tax code it should be a simple flat tax, something that can reasonably be justly applied and justly enforced. Eliminate ALL tax exemptions - go back to the founding rates of an escalating tax schedule from 0-7% based on income tier, and away we go. And in the meantime the massive reduction in tax revenue will massively reduce the size of the government and weтАЩll all be MUCH better off because of itтАж

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Michael Frankel's avatar

As the old saying goes its the thought that counts. In this case, nice thought but don't hold your breath

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ButTheDataSays's avatar

тАЬHope is to the soul what oxygen is to the bodyтАжтАЭ ЁЯША. But donтАЩt worry, IтАЩm not holding my breath

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Shane Gericke's avatar

I would like to eliminate all nonprofits and make them all pay taxes. I've seen too many "nonprofits" rake in millions, and theyshould pay like the rest of us.

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Scott D's avatar

I would be in favor of something like this if churches were included, especially megachurches.

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Shane Gericke's avatar

Yep, them too. The claim that they are apolitical has been long disproved. Tax everyone and maybe the rates can drop for everybody.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I get the gist of your argument, but that last sentence is a doozy.

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Shane Gericke's avatar

Doozy in which sense: good or bad?

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polistra's avatar

Yes. Endowments, accrediting agencies, and tenure form a loop that grows crazier every year. All the profit goes to the most trivial and crazy stuff. There's no profit in sanity or realism or genuine customer service for students.

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ButTheDataSays's avatar

Most university endowments are more or less Ponzi scheme in structure. TheyтАЩre highly leveraged assets primarily invested in things like commercial real estate and mortgage backed securitiesтАж those assets, to put it lightly, are feeling the market these days and some of them, like real estate, absolutely require continued funding as additional assets to borrow against. If university donations actually dried up for five consecutive years and people gave to actual charities that supported people actually in need youтАЩd see a LOT of pain at a lot of very prestigious universities

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Jon's avatar

You'll find many of my posts, scattered about the comments sections of Bari's article, promoting the same. How can Alums keep writing checks that support this kind of behavior. I stopped years ago.

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Alan G's avatar

IMO I think it should not be university specific . Let them all suffer - which is the only way to their attention

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