34+ year Manhattan resident, and this will not go the way you think...
In 2019, my older son went to Naval Flight School in Pensacola, Florida aka The Beach of the SEC. I just loved it. Florabama, white beaches, very very genuine people, and downtown Pensacola is filled with fun bars and restaurants. Navy towns are pretty much always fun.…
34+ year Manhattan resident, and this will not go the way you think...
In 2019, my older son went to Naval Flight School in Pensacola, Florida aka The Beach of the SEC. I just loved it. Florabama, white beaches, very very genuine people, and downtown Pensacola is filled with fun bars and restaurants. Navy towns are pretty much always fun...
For the two years that he was in "P-cola", I always drove down as planes are tough for my vaxx injured younger son with Autism. Same experience on the drive, great people along the way, and a little factoid, Pensacola, Florida is in the Central Time Zone.
Hope to get back...
#FlyNavy
#Kennedy24 - I want to help heal the divide with RFKJr.
I’m sorry about your son with autism. My only grandson has autism, and fwiw, it has nothing to do with vaccinations. This is a terrible, dangerous myth that puts lives at risk. It’s why I won’t be supporting RFK Jr. Also fwiw, my dad was a Navy pilot who trained at Pensacola for deploying to Korea. He was also a Naval Academy graduate. My cousins were all either Navy or Marines, including one of the wives (a Marine). I have a lot of respect for the military and their families. Best wishes to you and yours.
My father was a Navy Doctor, an Infectious Disease MD for 20 years, and Co-Chaired the "Victory Over Polio" campaign in Philadelphia from 1962-64. He left the Infectious Disease business in 1967, to go into Hospital Administration at Jefferson University Hospital.
My wife and I have penned a long 30 minute read article on our "Pro-Vaccine Safety" journey with Dustin:
I have read your piece and appreciate that it has helped you and your wife cope emotionally and intellectually with your son’s severe autism. We are very lucky that our grandson is highly verbal and successful in his autism program in the McKinney, Texas public school system. We are hoping he will one day be self-sufficient, but only time will tell.
That said, the overwhelming weight of the scientific evidence is against you. The fear of vaccines causing autism seems to have started in 1998 with an article in The Lancet by one Dr. Andrew Wakefield. You mention him at the very end of your substack posts. Wakefield’s research was subsequently found to be fraudulent and not only retracted by The Lancet, but disowned by its co-authors. Wakefield was stripped of his medical license in the U.K. after the longest professional practice investigation and trial in British Medical Society history.
You also mention mercury in some of these vaccines. Yes, it has since been removed, but not because it was harmful. It existed in minuscule amounts and was deemed unnecessary, with removal being seen as a way to quell the controversy and spur an uptake of childhood vaccines. As for the onset of autism symptoms, many children with autism develop normally for up to 2 years before the symptoms present, with or without vaccines. Some studies with over 600,000 children in them have found absolutely no correlation whatever between childhood vaccines and the onset of autism. Hundreds of studies have taken place since the original Wakefield study (which only had 12 subjects) and its results have never been duplicated. Reproducible results are a hallmark of sound science.
As for the increase in the number of autism diagnoses, that is a result primarily of increased screening and a broader definition of what constitutes autism. Many boys with an Asperger’s diagnosis used to just be called “odd” or, as adults, a “closet case”. The same thing holds with ADHD. Boys who “can’t sit still” are now diagnosed as ADHD.
None of this will make your life any easier or remove your worries about the future. We have those same worries. My SIL doesn’t want any more children because he’s afraid they’ll also have autism. My daughter is fine with that decision. We all pray that our grandson will be able to take care of himself one day, but we know that day may never come. Nevertheless, on the question of vaccines, our family has reached a different conclusion from yours. May God Bless You and take care of you and of Dustin. Society has an obligation to care for the most vulnerable and we all need to work together with that goal in mind.
"At some point in that first year, he had his third DPT vaccine dose. That was the shot that put him over the edge. He screamed for 24 hours, and the babbling stopped. The language that typically follows never came."
No, not at all. Some children develop normally for up to 24 months before symptoms emerge. In others the symptoms emerge sooner, as early as 3 months. All I am saying is that just because one of the symptoms happened immediately after a vaccine was administered, doesn’t mean the vaccine caused it. Neither does the screaming. It was an unfortunate coincidence, but still just a coincidence.
My grandson with autism had no adverse reactions to any of his vaccinations, and he has also been vaccinated for Covid. Nothing adverse there with except that he got Covid the week after he was vaccinated but had no symptoms. His mom also got Covid, so they tested him and he was positive.
I have 3 children and every single time they went in for a “shot” I had to sign a waiver stating that the vaccine could cause a whole bunch of side effects (not autism) up to and including death. No doctor has ever said vaccines are risk free. But hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved by vaccines. That has been proven. That they cause autism or that the vaccination schedule causes autism has never been proven, not even circumstantially.
A lot of children scream for hours and hours, run high fevers, and have other problems immediately after getting a vaccine. It’s in the paper they make you sign. They don’t get autism. It was a horrible, awful coincidence. But I can’t persuade you or your wife of that. We have reached different conclusions. That is all.
Read the Midwestern Doctor's substack about vaccines injuries. You would be surprised. And RFK Jr has a good point when he said "ever notice how there is no autism in my age group or a bit younger?" Boom...why is it autism all of a sudden is a thing? And it isn't just diagnosing it. You have a kid who is babbling and stops. You don't need a diagnosis as a mother to know something is amiss. What you need is a why. And vaccines could be a major part of that. Watch the documentary Unvaxxed....if you watch that and don't think vaccines can cause autism we have no hope for helping people make informed choice. And we are not informed...until now. Covid was the big informing. And some people will still choose vaccines. We should all have a choice.
I think you have the documentary “Unvaccinated”, which showed how crazy the people in the U.K. were who refused the Covid vaccine, with the documentary “Vaxxed”, which tried to prove vaccines cause autism.
Note that autism is not mentioned as being one of the possible injuries. As I stated earlier, when you get your child vaccinated, you have to sign a paper acknowledging that you have been informed that there may be side effects that include DEATH. Plenty of informed choice imho. I can’t help it if some people don’t read before they sign.
When a baby stops babbling it may be a sign of autism. It is not a sign that the vaccine they just got caused it. And I was studying autism in college from 1970-1974, so don’t tell me there was no autism back then. It was first discussed clinically in 1943. The definition changed over time, but the concept and a search for how to explain it was continuous. Diagnoses greatly increased after people stopped locking the supposedly retarded in mental hospitals. Diagnoses continued to increase as the clinical definition was expanded. None of that had anything to do with vaccines. This hysteria was caused by Dr. Andrew Wakefield who lost his medical license due to the fraud he perpetrated and all the money he was paid to produce said fraud. Fwiw, Wakefield left his wife, who stuck with him through his legal troubles, so he could date supermodel Elle McPherson. That’s gratitude for you. What a hero.
I drove on I-10 from Nola to Tampa a few months ago and was shocked to see that the panhandle is becoming, dare I say, fancier — booming with upscale beach communities. I predict this happens all along the Gulf Coast. It’s good for those states esp Mississippi.
Not a criticism but an observation: given the worsening of global warming bringing about increasingly ferocious storms with severe flooding (there was just some unusual, serious flooding in New York and Vermont)…is it a good idea to be building more beach communities in the path of hurricanes?
It's not sea level rise that is going to kill people, it's heat. Heatstroke can set in quickly even in young healthy people when the temperature goes above 100 degrees. It's estimated 70,000+ people died due to the last heat wave in Europe, where most places are not air conditioned.
What happens in Florida, Texas, or Arizona when it's 100+ for days on end and the power goes out for an extended period of time and cuts off the AC. A lot of places in the U.S. now are growing because of air conditioning. Last time I was in Austin, it was going from air conditioned car, to air conditioned restaurant, to air conditioned store, to air conditioned club, to air conditioned hotel.
[Edit] Meant to point out that a lot of older homes, especially in the South, were built pre-AC and designed to stay somewhat cooler in hot weather. Newer homes are sealed tight and, without AC, would be like convection ovens.
I live in San Antonio, and believe me I know it is hot. But globally, cold kills more people that heat. Bjorn Lonborg says climate change has saved about 166,000 lives per year (sorry I don't have a link, but pay walls.)
Don’t know that the facts support the comment about global warming bringing increasingly ferocious storms. Certainly higher property damage because people are building on the coasts. Seems not to trouble the Obamas one whit.
I'm agnostic on this topic and I have no dog in the fight, because the opinions of so-called experts are all over the place, and politics inevitably overcomes the quest for a single, fact-based interpretation. Maybe there are too many variables, and we can't know. Geological evidence shows that the planet has gone through extreme climate shifts for millions of years, but never before with the dominant involvement of homo sapiens who are fiddling with the environment on a mass scale.
For what it's worth, I'm under the impression that the incidence and severity of hurricanes has increased. And if this season is any example, the weather is getting progressively hotter all over the world. Whether that's evidence of something more fundamental, I have no idea. Maybe we're just having a hot year. I really was just asking the question because it seems a little risky to me. But I'm not casting aspersions against people who build in Florida. BTW, my cousin lives on the Panhandle.
Not sure what to make of your comment about the Obamas. Do they have a special dome that protects them from bad weather? I know they live on Millionaire Island ... I was a tourist there for a couple of hours and recall that it seemed quaint, and also you can't drive a car there. Must be nice.
He’s saying they don’t actually believe it because if they did they wouldn’t spend millions to live on the ocean.
You’ve been lied to. If there were an actual existential crisis those screaming about it the most would actually make different decisions. Instead, John Kerry just took another private jet with Al Gore to tell you that you’re not allowed to have a gas stove or plastic straws.
just because it is HOT does not mean it is a "change". today the press bemoaned that it is hot in Texas. wow. really. and so hot that the record may be broken. the last time it was this hot. not millions of years ago. 1974.. it dis hot. get over it.. we are not killing the planet with your a/c or your auto..
How can 8 billion, soon to be 12 billion, people NOT be having an effect on the environment? Is some of it natural, sure, but most increases in heat (and cold) throughout history have occurred over 1,000+ year periods, not over a 50 year period like we're seeing now where something like 8 out of the 10 hottest years ever have been since 2000 (not sure of the exact figure, but it's up there).
It's not 8 of the 10 hottest years ever, it is the hottest years since systematic records of global temperatures started to be kept in the mid 1800s. Coincidentally, that was when climate began to warm with the end of the Little Ice Age. We have been generally getting warmer for 170 years, so it is not surprising if recent years have been the hottest OF THAT PERIOD. Estimates of older temperatures show the Earth has been warmer than today for most of its existence.
The 8 out of 10 or similar line is simply not true. I suggest watching Tony Hellers videos. He shows the data manipulation that is used to push climate alarmism.
The Florida Panhandle is The South. Glad you’ve enjoyed it! Beautiful beaches & lovely people. I met a great NJ couple in Grayton Beach summer of ‘20 who came on a whim bc it was open, super nice people. I’m a Republican but really like RFK. I would love to see him in charge of Health & Human Services in a Rep administration.
I am not a WOKE Left anything, and like SO many Americans, I’m sick & tired of all the hatful decisive rhetoric, censoring BS!
RFK, Jr. is a prime example of the many Democrats (Elon, Bill Maher, Dave Rubin, Candace Owen, etc., etc., etc.) who quote Regan, “I didn’t leave the Democrat Party. It has left me!”
IF it should come down to it, I will vote for Kennedy. The alternative scares the hell out of me!
34+ year Manhattan resident, and this will not go the way you think...
In 2019, my older son went to Naval Flight School in Pensacola, Florida aka The Beach of the SEC. I just loved it. Florabama, white beaches, very very genuine people, and downtown Pensacola is filled with fun bars and restaurants. Navy towns are pretty much always fun...
For the two years that he was in "P-cola", I always drove down as planes are tough for my vaxx injured younger son with Autism. Same experience on the drive, great people along the way, and a little factoid, Pensacola, Florida is in the Central Time Zone.
Hope to get back...
#FlyNavy
#Kennedy24 - I want to help heal the divide with RFKJr.
Spent a year living the dream there myself. It really is great. Norfolk after that, which is underrated.
I’m sorry about your son with autism. My only grandson has autism, and fwiw, it has nothing to do with vaccinations. This is a terrible, dangerous myth that puts lives at risk. It’s why I won’t be supporting RFK Jr. Also fwiw, my dad was a Navy pilot who trained at Pensacola for deploying to Korea. He was also a Naval Academy graduate. My cousins were all either Navy or Marines, including one of the wives (a Marine). I have a lot of respect for the military and their families. Best wishes to you and yours.
Ann,
My father was a Navy Doctor, an Infectious Disease MD for 20 years, and Co-Chaired the "Victory Over Polio" campaign in Philadelphia from 1962-64. He left the Infectious Disease business in 1967, to go into Hospital Administration at Jefferson University Hospital.
My wife and I have penned a long 30 minute read article on our "Pro-Vaccine Safety" journey with Dustin:
https://outsidein51.substack.com/p/pro-vaccine-safety-in-2023-where
#FlyNavy
I have read your piece and appreciate that it has helped you and your wife cope emotionally and intellectually with your son’s severe autism. We are very lucky that our grandson is highly verbal and successful in his autism program in the McKinney, Texas public school system. We are hoping he will one day be self-sufficient, but only time will tell.
That said, the overwhelming weight of the scientific evidence is against you. The fear of vaccines causing autism seems to have started in 1998 with an article in The Lancet by one Dr. Andrew Wakefield. You mention him at the very end of your substack posts. Wakefield’s research was subsequently found to be fraudulent and not only retracted by The Lancet, but disowned by its co-authors. Wakefield was stripped of his medical license in the U.K. after the longest professional practice investigation and trial in British Medical Society history.
You also mention mercury in some of these vaccines. Yes, it has since been removed, but not because it was harmful. It existed in minuscule amounts and was deemed unnecessary, with removal being seen as a way to quell the controversy and spur an uptake of childhood vaccines. As for the onset of autism symptoms, many children with autism develop normally for up to 2 years before the symptoms present, with or without vaccines. Some studies with over 600,000 children in them have found absolutely no correlation whatever between childhood vaccines and the onset of autism. Hundreds of studies have taken place since the original Wakefield study (which only had 12 subjects) and its results have never been duplicated. Reproducible results are a hallmark of sound science.
As for the increase in the number of autism diagnoses, that is a result primarily of increased screening and a broader definition of what constitutes autism. Many boys with an Asperger’s diagnosis used to just be called “odd” or, as adults, a “closet case”. The same thing holds with ADHD. Boys who “can’t sit still” are now diagnosed as ADHD.
None of this will make your life any easier or remove your worries about the future. We have those same worries. My SIL doesn’t want any more children because he’s afraid they’ll also have autism. My daughter is fine with that decision. We all pray that our grandson will be able to take care of himself one day, but we know that day may never come. Nevertheless, on the question of vaccines, our family has reached a different conclusion from yours. May God Bless You and take care of you and of Dustin. Society has an obligation to care for the most vulnerable and we all need to work together with that goal in mind.
"At some point in that first year, he had his third DPT vaccine dose. That was the shot that put him over the edge. He screamed for 24 hours, and the babbling stopped. The language that typically follows never came."
You think my wife and I are lying?
No, not at all. Some children develop normally for up to 24 months before symptoms emerge. In others the symptoms emerge sooner, as early as 3 months. All I am saying is that just because one of the symptoms happened immediately after a vaccine was administered, doesn’t mean the vaccine caused it. Neither does the screaming. It was an unfortunate coincidence, but still just a coincidence.
My grandson with autism had no adverse reactions to any of his vaccinations, and he has also been vaccinated for Covid. Nothing adverse there with except that he got Covid the week after he was vaccinated but had no symptoms. His mom also got Covid, so they tested him and he was positive.
I have 3 children and every single time they went in for a “shot” I had to sign a waiver stating that the vaccine could cause a whole bunch of side effects (not autism) up to and including death. No doctor has ever said vaccines are risk free. But hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved by vaccines. That has been proven. That they cause autism or that the vaccination schedule causes autism has never been proven, not even circumstantially.
A lot of children scream for hours and hours, run high fevers, and have other problems immediately after getting a vaccine. It’s in the paper they make you sign. They don’t get autism. It was a horrible, awful coincidence. But I can’t persuade you or your wife of that. We have reached different conclusions. That is all.
Read the Midwestern Doctor's substack about vaccines injuries. You would be surprised. And RFK Jr has a good point when he said "ever notice how there is no autism in my age group or a bit younger?" Boom...why is it autism all of a sudden is a thing? And it isn't just diagnosing it. You have a kid who is babbling and stops. You don't need a diagnosis as a mother to know something is amiss. What you need is a why. And vaccines could be a major part of that. Watch the documentary Unvaxxed....if you watch that and don't think vaccines can cause autism we have no hope for helping people make informed choice. And we are not informed...until now. Covid was the big informing. And some people will still choose vaccines. We should all have a choice.
I think you have the documentary “Unvaccinated”, which showed how crazy the people in the U.K. were who refused the Covid vaccine, with the documentary “Vaxxed”, which tried to prove vaccines cause autism.
As for vaccine injuries, see this article from a law firm that specializes in these claims: https://www.vaccineinjurylegalteam.com/news-information/vaccine-injury-information/
Note that autism is not mentioned as being one of the possible injuries. As I stated earlier, when you get your child vaccinated, you have to sign a paper acknowledging that you have been informed that there may be side effects that include DEATH. Plenty of informed choice imho. I can’t help it if some people don’t read before they sign.
When a baby stops babbling it may be a sign of autism. It is not a sign that the vaccine they just got caused it. And I was studying autism in college from 1970-1974, so don’t tell me there was no autism back then. It was first discussed clinically in 1943. The definition changed over time, but the concept and a search for how to explain it was continuous. Diagnoses greatly increased after people stopped locking the supposedly retarded in mental hospitals. Diagnoses continued to increase as the clinical definition was expanded. None of that had anything to do with vaccines. This hysteria was caused by Dr. Andrew Wakefield who lost his medical license due to the fraud he perpetrated and all the money he was paid to produce said fraud. Fwiw, Wakefield left his wife, who stuck with him through his legal troubles, so he could date supermodel Elle McPherson. That’s gratitude for you. What a hero.
Ann - Will simply say, you have no idea about that weekend. It's a Substack. I have watched 1/2 of the latest Wakefield podcast - https://rumble.com/v30thdi-andrew-wakefield-the-original-anti-vaxxer-quack-or-an-ethical-doctor-way-ah.html
My héros are: Rickover, Wakefield, Assange, and Snowden.
I have no interest in propping up this false medical world or military world that values money over people.
I watched this happen to my nephew with his MMR and flu jab. I’m on your team. God bless. When you see it you know.
I drove on I-10 from Nola to Tampa a few months ago and was shocked to see that the panhandle is becoming, dare I say, fancier — booming with upscale beach communities. I predict this happens all along the Gulf Coast. It’s good for those states esp Mississippi.
Not a criticism but an observation: given the worsening of global warming bringing about increasingly ferocious storms with severe flooding (there was just some unusual, serious flooding in New York and Vermont)…is it a good idea to be building more beach communities in the path of hurricanes?
Oh, you mean like the Obamas?
Yup, they're in there.
It has probably never been a real good idea to build in hurricane country. But it is not getting worse. http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/index.php?arch&loc=global
And 7-8 inches of sea level rise per century are not a big problem (lengthy discussion):
https://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/special-report-sea-level-rise2.pdf
It's not sea level rise that is going to kill people, it's heat. Heatstroke can set in quickly even in young healthy people when the temperature goes above 100 degrees. It's estimated 70,000+ people died due to the last heat wave in Europe, where most places are not air conditioned.
What happens in Florida, Texas, or Arizona when it's 100+ for days on end and the power goes out for an extended period of time and cuts off the AC. A lot of places in the U.S. now are growing because of air conditioning. Last time I was in Austin, it was going from air conditioned car, to air conditioned restaurant, to air conditioned store, to air conditioned club, to air conditioned hotel.
[Edit] Meant to point out that a lot of older homes, especially in the South, were built pre-AC and designed to stay somewhat cooler in hot weather. Newer homes are sealed tight and, without AC, would be like convection ovens.
I live in San Antonio, and believe me I know it is hot. But globally, cold kills more people that heat. Bjorn Lonborg says climate change has saved about 166,000 lives per year (sorry I don't have a link, but pay walls.)
Thanks, I'll take a look at your sources.
Don’t know that the facts support the comment about global warming bringing increasingly ferocious storms. Certainly higher property damage because people are building on the coasts. Seems not to trouble the Obamas one whit.
I'm agnostic on this topic and I have no dog in the fight, because the opinions of so-called experts are all over the place, and politics inevitably overcomes the quest for a single, fact-based interpretation. Maybe there are too many variables, and we can't know. Geological evidence shows that the planet has gone through extreme climate shifts for millions of years, but never before with the dominant involvement of homo sapiens who are fiddling with the environment on a mass scale.
For what it's worth, I'm under the impression that the incidence and severity of hurricanes has increased. And if this season is any example, the weather is getting progressively hotter all over the world. Whether that's evidence of something more fundamental, I have no idea. Maybe we're just having a hot year. I really was just asking the question because it seems a little risky to me. But I'm not casting aspersions against people who build in Florida. BTW, my cousin lives on the Panhandle.
Not sure what to make of your comment about the Obamas. Do they have a special dome that protects them from bad weather? I know they live on Millionaire Island ... I was a tourist there for a couple of hours and recall that it seemed quaint, and also you can't drive a car there. Must be nice.
He’s saying they don’t actually believe it because if they did they wouldn’t spend millions to live on the ocean.
You’ve been lied to. If there were an actual existential crisis those screaming about it the most would actually make different decisions. Instead, John Kerry just took another private jet with Al Gore to tell you that you’re not allowed to have a gas stove or plastic straws.
just because it is HOT does not mean it is a "change". today the press bemoaned that it is hot in Texas. wow. really. and so hot that the record may be broken. the last time it was this hot. not millions of years ago. 1974.. it dis hot. get over it.. we are not killing the planet with your a/c or your auto..
How can 8 billion, soon to be 12 billion, people NOT be having an effect on the environment? Is some of it natural, sure, but most increases in heat (and cold) throughout history have occurred over 1,000+ year periods, not over a 50 year period like we're seeing now where something like 8 out of the 10 hottest years ever have been since 2000 (not sure of the exact figure, but it's up there).
It's not 8 of the 10 hottest years ever, it is the hottest years since systematic records of global temperatures started to be kept in the mid 1800s. Coincidentally, that was when climate began to warm with the end of the Little Ice Age. We have been generally getting warmer for 170 years, so it is not surprising if recent years have been the hottest OF THAT PERIOD. Estimates of older temperatures show the Earth has been warmer than today for most of its existence.
The 8 out of 10 or similar line is simply not true. I suggest watching Tony Hellers videos. He shows the data manipulation that is used to push climate alarmism.
The Florida Panhandle is The South. Glad you’ve enjoyed it! Beautiful beaches & lovely people. I met a great NJ couple in Grayton Beach summer of ‘20 who came on a whim bc it was open, super nice people. I’m a Republican but really like RFK. I would love to see him in charge of Health & Human Services in a Rep administration.
Alice, you make a good point.
I am not a WOKE Left anything, and like SO many Americans, I’m sick & tired of all the hatful decisive rhetoric, censoring BS!
RFK, Jr. is a prime example of the many Democrats (Elon, Bill Maher, Dave Rubin, Candace Owen, etc., etc., etc.) who quote Regan, “I didn’t leave the Democrat Party. It has left me!”
IF it should come down to it, I will vote for Kennedy. The alternative scares the hell out of me!