What most normal, rational conservatives want is to be left the fuck alone. We see Government as a necessary evil that should be as small as possible. We are tired of DC raking in so much of our money in taxes and NYC skimming so much of our hard earned savings in fees then both locales calling us stupid.
What most normal, rational conservatives want is to be left the fuck alone. We see Government as a necessary evil that should be as small as possible. We are tired of DC raking in so much of our money in taxes and NYC skimming so much of our hard earned savings in fees then both locales calling us stupid.
If by "funding" you mean accumulating a ton of fiat dollars, and then paying taxes on those dollars, you may be right. If you're talking about producing things people can actually use: food, fuel, clothing, wood, metals, etc. that's a whole 'nother thing.
DC raking in so much of our money and... below CNBC cut & paste from December 2022:
President Joe Biden on Thursday is announcing the infusion of nearly $36 billion to prevent severe cuts to the retirement incomes of more than 350,000 Teamster workers and retirees across the United States. The money for the Central States Pension Fund is the largest amount of federal aid provided for a pension plan.
Is this via the normal Pension Benefit Guaranty Fund (PBGF) that was established in the 1970s to protect pensions when companies fail, similar to the FDIC which insures banks accounts, or is it a separate thing to try to grab votes?
From Business Insider: "As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red StatesтАФthe ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cutтАФare a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."
From The Atlantic: That's a far more interesting thing to think about (though perhaps less viscerally satisfying) than which states are moochers or freeloaders and which are getting fleeced.
Bob, see AndrewтАЩs post below to add facts & clarity to what you stated.
And, sir, you do recognize and must surely acknowledge that anything & everything from the Atlantic is WOKE Left rhetoric. They are part of the MSM, which serves as the propaganda arm of the Democrats.
This map makes that claim look ridiculous. Blue states may pay in more - the coasts are where the centers of finance and wealth are located - but they also get way more in return.
You can play with the numbers as much as you want. Try Federal aid per cow - oops that won't work in Montana. I used how much the states paid in and how much they got back. The true "justification" could be that, due to weather, most DOD bases are in the South. That is still not the reason why the Red States always want to be the victim while being the villain.
Bob, sorry sir, but you need to look beyond the WOKE Left narrative.
Our border states are being RUN OVER with illegals thanks to the Biden Regime!
If you donтАЩt realize how much $$$$ that is costing these тАЬRed Border StatesтАЭ then you should look beyond the MSM rhetoric!
Here in Texas, MANY very deserving taxpayers are being denied resources because of the thousands of illegal aliens storming across the тАЬopen borderтАЭ
Plus, you do realize, illegals are being given Welfare and FREE medical attention, so yes, a lot of Federal & State funds are being consumed!
In one Southern Border town RFK Jr. visited recently, he was beyond shocked at the hospitals having to turn away LEGAL Texas Citizens, because every bed was filled with illegals having babies, drug overdoses & rape victims!
Once again take the money and complain. Being a border state brings a lot of Money to Texas. But a fact: In the US there are approximately 10,500 births per day. There are approximately 9,500 deaths per day. And persons with entry based on asylum are not illegals. And as of January16, 2019 тАФ "It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers ...
So Bob, Not sure what you mean тАЬtake the money & complainтАЭ. In all honesty, YOU are the one who is complaining about Red States. I absolutely love my Red State of Texas! I also own a condo in Brooklyn Heights, NY, which IтАЩm renting out, due to the crime & filth on subways now. When the WOKE Left are in charge (with their defund police BS) cities deteriorate!
And, if Red States are so awful, WHY are people & businesses coming in the thousands from Blue States to settle in Red ones?
Could it be because of the astronomical Blue State taxes, yet the homeless numbers are higher than anywhere else in the USA! WHY arenтАЩt Blue States supporting these homeless people? Plus, property values & cost of living are so high there that regular folks are fleeing! Also, because Blue States have unmanageable crime rates that the WOKE Liberals either ignore, or refuse to prosecute? LA released notice for vacationers NOT visit because the police would not be able to protect them! Golly, no wonder people & businesses are boarding up and moving out fast to Red States!
Yes, Bob, you are correct to post that last quote! Where you are incorrect is to bring up a 2019 report, when illegal border crossings were a lot lower.
Under the current open border policy, illegals are flooding across the border in RECORD HIGH NUMBERS! Not talking about тАЬasylum seekersтАЭ but illegal aliens, cartels, drug mules, etc.
5.5 MILLION illegals have crossed our borders just since Biden took office!
ONLY approx. 2,200 arrive daily seeking asylum, whereas 5,000 make unauthorized entries daily. THIS cost a lot of money, but isnтАЩt that what тАЬSanctuary BelieversтАЭ think their tax dollars should support?! Ironically, those same people donтАЩt want any illegals bussed in to their cities!
The Left loves to debate this, but facts are facts!
In fiscal year 2023, the Biden administration allocated $1.6 billion to border states to help them respond to the migrant crisis. This money was distributed to the states through the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Humanitarian Assistance and Disaster Relief Act.
The money can be used to support a variety of activities, including:
Providing food, shelter, and medical care to migrants
Transporting migrants to other parts of the country
Hiring additional law enforcement officers and border patrol agents
Of course, it is a real number, but it does not reflect the actual out and in of federal taxes PER STATE. When talking about value it should be considered that farmland in Red States is not valued the same as businesses in the state of NY so there is much undervalued assets in those states. Looking at a State like North Dakota that wants to be a banking (as well as money laundering) State is valued higher than South Dakota, which is more of a farming state as far as businesses go. The main point is that Red States continually complain about Federal expenditures but do not complain about farm subsidies which are 40% of net farm income, Sugar quotas which cost all US taxpayers $2 billion a year, infrastructure money spent or about the DOD spending in the Southern States. Victim while taking the money is at least hilarious.
What?? It absolutely does. The per capita number is derived from the amount of money PER STATE divided by its population! Farm Subsidies?? You mean like those going to California, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania...? Sure, Texas and Iowa are at the top for Farm subsidy grift but the US has blown half a trillion on farmers the past decade and blue states get plenty of that action. And btw, it was Republicans who proposed cuts to the farm bill last time around. Also, here are some facts vis-├а-vis your DOD line of thinking. Only 2 red states are in the top 10 for Defense spending. https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3194361/dod-releases-report-on-defense-spending-by-state-in-fiscal-year-2021/
And by the way, WHO exactly is complaining? You're the one who brought it up; I don't see any of the contributors from the right complaining about it. Looks like most everyone else just wants government to leave them alone and doesn't care how much is being spent in red states. We're not victims and we're not villains.
Mike, I donтАЩt think you can reason with Bob. Apparently he gets him тАЬnews & knowledgeтАЭ from places like The Atlantic and other MSM (propaganda arm of the Democrats).
I would agree that most everyone wants the government to leave them alone. But why do Right WIng Legislatures keep on imposing Christian Sharia on their population?
I thought many of the right side comments here were off base, not completely, but lacking in honest dialogue. However many of the left leaning comments were the same. But you jumped the shark. Do you really expect to get traction calling red state legislatures as legislating Sharia Christianity. They have a different political view. Seriously, you arenтАЩt advancing any discussion.
I say Christian Sharia because as we write there is a Jewish Rabbi suing the State of Florida for its abortion law. Abortion is accepted under conditions in the Jewish faith. The Florida law does not address it. Not to mention the many people who do not belong to organized Religion. Abortion is not the only issue I classify as Christian Sharia. Have you never heard a Christian complain on how they are treated in other counties with non-Christian majorities?
Your comment is fairly nonsensical. "Jews believe abortion can be OK; some Christians do not. Thus a FL law that bans abortion is pro Christian and anti Judaism." If this is evidence of your reasoning, I can understand why you use terms like "Sharia" as you really have no cogent argument.
FROM YOUR SOURCE: "New York, Washington and Massachusetts had the largest overall increases in DoD spending from Fiscal Year 2019 to 2020. This was driven by large contracts to Pfizer, Inc. and Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc. in New York, Boeing and ANA Holdings in Washington, and Moderna, Inc. in Massachusetts. The contracts in New York and Massachusetts were related to COVID-19 vaccine and treatment purchases by DoD, in coordination with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. " The Covid funds were from where purchased not given.
Go look at the research that claims that and see if it includes government retirement pensions. Why yes, yes you will see that "Government Welfare" includes pensions paid by the government to former/retired government employees for work performed. Of course, considering costs of living it doesn't take a very smart person who lives on a fixed income to move to states where their income will go further. Those states are usually red.
They always trot out these tired DNC talking points which mean nothing. They also don't take into account that some of the major blue states (New York, California) have multi-billion-dollar tourism industries which employ lots of people and bring in tax dollars. Except for Florida (which is doing well fiscally), I can't think of many red states that have big tourism industries.
Also, Kate, speaking from Texas, a border state, under this Biden Crime Family Regime, we are overwhelmed with the open border influx of illegals - also being given тАЬwelfare handoutsтАЭ - plus, which is denying LEGAL, tax paying citizens resource they need!
I find it amusing that the тАЬso called Sanctuary citiesтАЭ in the North are screaming тАЬNO FairтАЭ when busses & plane loads of illegals are sent to them! Also, they lament тАЬWe donтАЩt have room for them & we need Federal AidтАЭ
Sorry, but BOO FU*KING WHO
because you asked for it with all your тАЬSanctuary, holy than thou, rhetoricтАЭ. You voted for this WOKE Left agenda! HowтАЩs that working for you?!
Infrastructure improvements (for Texas: Highways and bridges: $27.5 billion
Public transit: $3.4 billion, Clean energy: $2.9 billion,
Water infrastructure: $1.2 billion, Broadband internet: $100 million
Other: $1.7 billion).
Take the money and complain. That s what MAGA is all about. \
Biden did not have a Foundation dissolved due to illegal activities. Biden did not declare bankruptcy 6 times. Biden has paid taxes every year he has been in office. BTW my sister moved to Texas and the first thing she did was buy a whole house generator. Energy State my ***.
Bob, your тАЬTDSтАЭ infection is a really bad case!
WHY would you even bring up Trump? I didnтАЩt mention him, nor does HE have anything to do with the topic at hand!
I get that ANY criticism of Biden is immediately discounted with тАЬBut, but, but Trump, whataboutismтАЭ or тАЬItтАЩs PutinтАЩs faultтАЭ or тАЬItтАЩs the Climate, stupidтАЭ
IF you feel the need to respond to me again, IтАЩll certainly understand. That is what is expected from people with тАЬTDSтАЭ and IтАЩll gladly let you have the last word.
Certainly we can agree that TFP (Bari) has provided us (Both Left & Right) a тАЬsafe spaceЁЯШЙтАЭ to come & agree to disagree.
That Texas heat is baking. You mentioned the "Biden Crime Family". I did not ask you to prove it because my dad always told me never have a battle of wits when your opponent is unarmed.
I always knew that to be true. People retire in cold, expensive areas of the country, and do the math, which tells them very quickly that they should move to a place where the weather is better and the cost of living lower. It's not rocket science. But the left likes to think that they are somehow subsidizing all the red states, and that people are stupid for moving to them.
Remember the tyrannical lock down by the ever senile Biden and his left wing minions? I said then that the left cares more about illegal aliens (I mean undocumented Democrats) than US citizens.
While the NAZIs were locking us down and forcing small businesses to close they were letting hundreds thousands of unvaccinated aliens in and dispersing them all over the US. I lived in Central America for forty years and I can tell you in most if not all of these countries there is no mass vaccination policy. In the US we have mass vaccinations for polio, diphtheria, whooping cough, and many more diseases that we have almost wiped out here in the States but are common in Latin America.
Below is and example of the criminal behavior of the ever senile Joe's government:
I resist labels as they are meaningless at best and misleading at worst - just look up what the word "liberal" means! Or go back in time to what the founders thought of as "liberal".
I wrote this about a year ago. It is still relevant.
I subscribe to an opinion newsletter called Common Sense. It mainly defends the First Amendment and it defends it from the nut cases on the left and the right. Common Sense does a pretty good job of being politically neutral. However, because the mainstream press and many universities have to the gone far left, most of the articles are how the left through political correctness, the woke and the me too movements are attempting to destroy the First Amendment. The left does not debate you on the merit of what is said or what you have written, they attack you and most times viciously.
Below is a response I wrote to an article in Common Sense:
You call the left, liberals. I can't bring myself to do that. A true liberal embraces free speech. John Stuart Mill one of the founders of liberalism was a staunch defender of free speech. He said in his essay on liberalism, I'm paraphrasing here, "You should listen to your adversaries because they might be right."
The left today are not liberals. If you don't agree with the left, you are pilloried by the left. I read the definition of a racist, "Is anyone who wins an argument with a liberal."
Whatever happened to, "I may not agree with you but I will defend to the death your right to say it."? In July of 1977 the American NAZI Party was going to march through Skokie, Illinois. Seven Thousand Holocaust survivors lived in Skokie. Words cannot describe how disgusted and appalled I was by this proposed vile act. Of all people who defended this atrocity was the ACLU. I was shocked until I heard why they were defended the NAZIs right to march.
They weren't defending the NAZIs. They were defending the First Amendment, freedom of expression. I am a gentile and much as I despised the NAZIs I love the First Amendment more. I only wish the left loved the First Amendment as much as I do but they don't.
So please stop calling them liberals because they aren't. They are tyrants.
That is what our founding fathers thought. They put clauses in the constitution ti limit the power of government but the thieves in Washington work around those clauses. See the tenth amendment.
Yes, I agree. I wrote my statement in a fit of anger. As I think about it, it is something that we should all be able to agree on - government is the enemy.
Human history is replete with examples of government oppression of the people. On the other end of the scale is the chaos of insufficient governance. This is the human comedy. How do we rule our selves.
I have said before, we need a betrayal of public trust amendment where our elected, appointed and high ranking us government officials are closely watched to insure they are not breaking any laws, felonies or breaking the public trust.
If found of breaking the public trust they are dragged out of the capital building, dragged down the steps. At the bottom of the steps is a large, well muscled, man, oiled up, standing in beside a chopping block and holding a large ax very sharp.
The congress man or woman is forced to kneel and place their head on the chopping block and then beheaded, all on national TV as a subtle hint to the rest of the thieves on capitol hill not to screw the taxpayers.
Before someone in a cheap suit and an FBI id shows up at my front door, I'm being sarcastic, joking, exercising first amendment rights that the left is trying to take away from all of us.
And the penalty for treason should be the same you suggested. It used to be hanging, drawing and quartering. I'd like to see it used on any president who accepted bribes from malign foreign powers - laundered or not through family members.
If proven true that Biden accepted money from foreign governments to use his office to change or sway policy, that is treason and he should be execute along with any others in the Biden crime family who took part in selling out our country.
Except, I bet nothing EVER happens to the Biden Crime Family! Just like nothing will ever happen to Hillary!
When the тАЬLiar in ChiefтАЭ says stupid things and blatantly lies, his supporters cover for him. If BidenтАЩs crimes should happen to be proven beyond a doubt, THEN his supporters (+ MSM) will resort to excusing his criminal behaviors with тАЬWell, Uncle Joe DOES show signs of dementia, so you surely canтАЩt hold him accountable NOW!тАЭ
Kind of like the gun enhancement sentencing laws. If enforced, a lot of the criminals who like using guns to commit their crimes would be locked up (and thus not committing gun crimes) for a very long time.
But Leftist prosecutors won't enforce those laws. And then Democrats use (preventable) gun crimes to call for MORE gun control laws--specifically ones that will punish law-abiding gun owners.
Ugh. Why do all the politicians you support are happy to collect their big pay checks and benefits from the Federal government while dissing Washington? Height of hypocrisy. TheyтАЩre scamming you!
Their paychecks aren't that good, but boy, those retirement benefits are extraordinary...
Any person on the civil service rolls get, guaranteed, 75% of their last three years' annual average salary plus medical benefits that civilians would love to have.
Plus, L.K., I find it ironic how politicians go to Washington DC and on those тАЬnot so good paychecksтАЭ get filthy rich! We have the best politicians money can buy - both Left & Right!
And it seems once they get elected, their moral compass gets put aside for the power of their position. ALL of them want to make getting re-elected year after year their lifelong goal!
Lord Acton, a British historian said, тАЬPower tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutelyтАЭ
IтАЩm from NY , near the City and am a New Yorker. And I agree with you. NYC skims from its own though, unfortunately. Not from the rest of the country. But IтАЩm in strong sympathy with the gist of this piece. I donтАЩt like Trump at all, but I get it. I understand his popularity. I certainly canтАЩt stand Biden, Hilary and the rest of them. I would love to make it out there someday and felt the need say that all New Yorkers are different. Most of us are not elitists with our head up our ass.
IтАЩm not тАЬleft-wingтАЭ. Everything is black and white with you it seems. I thought what I said was pretty self-explanatory so IтАЩll leave it at that. Also, I donтАЩt have any time to re-engage, so apologies to Mike.
If youтАЩre saying IтАЩm for government doing what itтАЩs supposed to do for people, guilty as charged.
And what is government supposed to "do" for people? If it's people, plural, then it's probably ok. If it's for people on an individual level... then, well, that's not what the Constitution says.
This is what Government should do, per the document that permits it:
Provide for the common defense.
Promote the general welfare
Secure the blessing of Liberty.
the words Common, General, Liberty are most important there. There ain't nothing in there about "choosing some to receive more than others" or "helping preferred groups" or "kowtowing to multinational organizations"
In fact the Liberty line pretty much should disqualify most of the rules of the administrative state, especially re: gas stoves, etc.
What most normal, rational conservatives want is to be left the fuck alone. We see Government as a necessary evil that should be as small as possible. We are tired of DC raking in so much of our money in taxes and NYC skimming so much of our hard earned savings in fees then both locales calling us stupid.
Madjack, and this has to do with the Ozarks how?
Rich liberals have boats and lakeside homes too..
7 of the top 10 net "taker" states are red. You don't want to be left alone because you need the Federal government to care for your state.
Lies, damn lies, and something else.
Yes. Now what will rational conservatives do since we're not left alone?
NYC and State funds the rest of the country disproportionately. Look it up.
If by "funding" you mean accumulating a ton of fiat dollars, and then paying taxes on those dollars, you may be right. If you're talking about producing things people can actually use: food, fuel, clothing, wood, metals, etc. that's a whole 'nother thing.
EXACTLY. The government that governs best governs least!
Sounds very Libertarian to me. IтАЩm all for it
This is all that needs to be said about this and Fran Drescher and SAG can pound sand.
It's too bad you see it that way. Writers and actors need to make a living, too.
I feel zero obligation to watch Woke movies and TV just so writers and actors can make a living.
DC raking in so much of our money and... below CNBC cut & paste from December 2022:
President Joe Biden on Thursday is announcing the infusion of nearly $36 billion to prevent severe cuts to the retirement incomes of more than 350,000 Teamster workers and retirees across the United States. The money for the Central States Pension Fund is the largest amount of federal aid provided for a pension plan.
$36 BILLION!
Is this via the normal Pension Benefit Guaranty Fund (PBGF) that was established in the 1970s to protect pensions when companies fail, similar to the FDIC which insures banks accounts, or is it a separate thing to try to grab votes?
Laundered straight through to the Democrat Party. Marty Byrd would blush.
From Business Insider: "As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red StatesтАФthe ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cutтАФare a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill."
From The Atlantic: That's a far more interesting thing to think about (though perhaps less viscerally satisfying) than which states are moochers or freeloaders and which are getting fleeced.
Bob, see AndrewтАЩs post below to add facts & clarity to what you stated.
And, sir, you do recognize and must surely acknowledge that anything & everything from the Atlantic is WOKE Left rhetoric. They are part of the MSM, which serves as the propaganda arm of the Democrats.
Gonna guess many of those states have multiple military bases.
The claim is meaningless if applied in the aggregate and without distinguishing where those federal dollars are going.
California leads the nation in stationed DOD personnel, yet the State is not a mooch.
This map makes that claim look ridiculous. Blue states may pay in more - the coasts are where the centers of finance and wealth are located - but they also get way more in return.
https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings/federal-aid-by-state/
Yes, the blue States are where revenue created in red states go to die from taxation. They are counting money created in red states as their own.
You can play with the numbers as much as you want. Try Federal aid per cow - oops that won't work in Montana. I used how much the states paid in and how much they got back. The true "justification" could be that, due to weather, most DOD bases are in the South. That is still not the reason why the Red States always want to be the victim while being the villain.
Bob, sorry sir, but you need to look beyond the WOKE Left narrative.
Our border states are being RUN OVER with illegals thanks to the Biden Regime!
If you donтАЩt realize how much $$$$ that is costing these тАЬRed Border StatesтАЭ then you should look beyond the MSM rhetoric!
Here in Texas, MANY very deserving taxpayers are being denied resources because of the thousands of illegal aliens storming across the тАЬopen borderтАЭ
Plus, you do realize, illegals are being given Welfare and FREE medical attention, so yes, a lot of Federal & State funds are being consumed!
In one Southern Border town RFK Jr. visited recently, he was beyond shocked at the hospitals having to turn away LEGAL Texas Citizens, because every bed was filled with illegals having babies, drug overdoses & rape victims!
Once again take the money and complain. Being a border state brings a lot of Money to Texas. But a fact: In the US there are approximately 10,500 births per day. There are approximately 9,500 deaths per day. And persons with entry based on asylum are not illegals. And as of January16, 2019 тАФ "It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers ...
So Bob, Not sure what you mean тАЬtake the money & complainтАЭ. In all honesty, YOU are the one who is complaining about Red States. I absolutely love my Red State of Texas! I also own a condo in Brooklyn Heights, NY, which IтАЩm renting out, due to the crime & filth on subways now. When the WOKE Left are in charge (with their defund police BS) cities deteriorate!
And, if Red States are so awful, WHY are people & businesses coming in the thousands from Blue States to settle in Red ones?
Could it be because of the astronomical Blue State taxes, yet the homeless numbers are higher than anywhere else in the USA! WHY arenтАЩt Blue States supporting these homeless people? Plus, property values & cost of living are so high there that regular folks are fleeing! Also, because Blue States have unmanageable crime rates that the WOKE Liberals either ignore, or refuse to prosecute? LA released notice for vacationers NOT visit because the police would not be able to protect them! Golly, no wonder people & businesses are boarding up and moving out fast to Red States!
Yes, Bob, you are correct to post that last quote! Where you are incorrect is to bring up a 2019 report, when illegal border crossings were a lot lower.
Under the current open border policy, illegals are flooding across the border in RECORD HIGH NUMBERS! Not talking about тАЬasylum seekersтАЭ but illegal aliens, cartels, drug mules, etc.
5.5 MILLION illegals have crossed our borders just since Biden took office!
ONLY approx. 2,200 arrive daily seeking asylum, whereas 5,000 make unauthorized entries daily. THIS cost a lot of money, but isnтАЩt that what тАЬSanctuary BelieversтАЭ think their tax dollars should support?! Ironically, those same people donтАЩt want any illegals bussed in to their cities!
The Left loves to debate this, but facts are facts!
In fiscal year 2023, the Biden administration allocated $1.6 billion to border states to help them respond to the migrant crisis. This money was distributed to the states through the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Humanitarian Assistance and Disaster Relief Act.
The money can be used to support a variety of activities, including:
Providing food, shelter, and medical care to migrants
Transporting migrants to other parts of the country
Hiring additional law enforcement officers and border patrol agents
Building new detention facilities
Wait, so Federal aid per capita is not a real number? What do you mean by "being the villain?"
Of course, it is a real number, but it does not reflect the actual out and in of federal taxes PER STATE. When talking about value it should be considered that farmland in Red States is not valued the same as businesses in the state of NY so there is much undervalued assets in those states. Looking at a State like North Dakota that wants to be a banking (as well as money laundering) State is valued higher than South Dakota, which is more of a farming state as far as businesses go. The main point is that Red States continually complain about Federal expenditures but do not complain about farm subsidies which are 40% of net farm income, Sugar quotas which cost all US taxpayers $2 billion a year, infrastructure money spent or about the DOD spending in the Southern States. Victim while taking the money is at least hilarious.
What?? It absolutely does. The per capita number is derived from the amount of money PER STATE divided by its population! Farm Subsidies?? You mean like those going to California, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania...? Sure, Texas and Iowa are at the top for Farm subsidy grift but the US has blown half a trillion on farmers the past decade and blue states get plenty of that action. And btw, it was Republicans who proposed cuts to the farm bill last time around. Also, here are some facts vis-├а-vis your DOD line of thinking. Only 2 red states are in the top 10 for Defense spending. https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3194361/dod-releases-report-on-defense-spending-by-state-in-fiscal-year-2021/
And by the way, WHO exactly is complaining? You're the one who brought it up; I don't see any of the contributors from the right complaining about it. Looks like most everyone else just wants government to leave them alone and doesn't care how much is being spent in red states. We're not victims and we're not villains.
Mike, I donтАЩt think you can reason with Bob. Apparently he gets him тАЬnews & knowledgeтАЭ from places like The Atlantic and other MSM (propaganda arm of the Democrats).
I would agree that most everyone wants the government to leave them alone. But why do Right WIng Legislatures keep on imposing Christian Sharia on their population?
I thought many of the right side comments here were off base, not completely, but lacking in honest dialogue. However many of the left leaning comments were the same. But you jumped the shark. Do you really expect to get traction calling red state legislatures as legislating Sharia Christianity. They have a different political view. Seriously, you arenтАЩt advancing any discussion.
Thank you, Running Burning Man, for your postЁЯСЖ
I say Christian Sharia because as we write there is a Jewish Rabbi suing the State of Florida for its abortion law. Abortion is accepted under conditions in the Jewish faith. The Florida law does not address it. Not to mention the many people who do not belong to organized Religion. Abortion is not the only issue I classify as Christian Sharia. Have you never heard a Christian complain on how they are treated in other counties with non-Christian majorities?
Your comment is fairly nonsensical. "Jews believe abortion can be OK; some Christians do not. Thus a FL law that bans abortion is pro Christian and anti Judaism." If this is evidence of your reasoning, I can understand why you use terms like "Sharia" as you really have no cogent argument.
Whatever you think that is, it has nothing to do with Federal spending.
FROM YOUR SOURCE: "New York, Washington and Massachusetts had the largest overall increases in DoD spending from Fiscal Year 2019 to 2020. This was driven by large contracts to Pfizer, Inc. and Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc. in New York, Boeing and ANA Holdings in Washington, and Moderna, Inc. in Massachusetts. The contracts in New York and Massachusetts were related to COVID-19 vaccine and treatment purchases by DoD, in coordination with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. " The Covid funds were from where purchased not given.
"Where purchased" is where the federal money goes! If you want to also include where given then New York and Mass are double-dipping from the trough.
Go look at the research that claims that and see if it includes government retirement pensions. Why yes, yes you will see that "Government Welfare" includes pensions paid by the government to former/retired government employees for work performed. Of course, considering costs of living it doesn't take a very smart person who lives on a fixed income to move to states where their income will go further. Those states are usually red.
They always trot out these tired DNC talking points which mean nothing. They also don't take into account that some of the major blue states (New York, California) have multi-billion-dollar tourism industries which employ lots of people and bring in tax dollars. Except for Florida (which is doing well fiscally), I can't think of many red states that have big tourism industries.
Also, Kate, speaking from Texas, a border state, under this Biden Crime Family Regime, we are overwhelmed with the open border influx of illegals - also being given тАЬwelfare handoutsтАЭ - plus, which is denying LEGAL, tax paying citizens resource they need!
I find it amusing that the тАЬso called Sanctuary citiesтАЭ in the North are screaming тАЬNO FairтАЭ when busses & plane loads of illegals are sent to them! Also, they lament тАЬWe donтАЩt have room for them & we need Federal AidтАЭ
Sorry, but BOO FU*KING WHO
because you asked for it with all your тАЬSanctuary, holy than thou, rhetoricтАЭ. You voted for this WOKE Left agenda! HowтАЩs that working for you?!
Record number of new jobs
Indicting Trump 3 times for crimes.
Protecting right to choose.
Infrastructure improvements (for Texas: Highways and bridges: $27.5 billion
Public transit: $3.4 billion, Clean energy: $2.9 billion,
Water infrastructure: $1.2 billion, Broadband internet: $100 million
Other: $1.7 billion).
Take the money and complain. That s what MAGA is all about. \
Biden did not have a Foundation dissolved due to illegal activities. Biden did not declare bankruptcy 6 times. Biden has paid taxes every year he has been in office. BTW my sister moved to Texas and the first thing she did was buy a whole house generator. Energy State my ***.
Bob, your тАЬTDSтАЭ infection is a really bad case!
WHY would you even bring up Trump? I didnтАЩt mention him, nor does HE have anything to do with the topic at hand!
I get that ANY criticism of Biden is immediately discounted with тАЬBut, but, but Trump, whataboutismтАЭ or тАЬItтАЩs PutinтАЩs faultтАЭ or тАЬItтАЩs the Climate, stupidтАЭ
IF you feel the need to respond to me again, IтАЩll certainly understand. That is what is expected from people with тАЬTDSтАЭ and IтАЩll gladly let you have the last word.
Certainly we can agree that TFP (Bari) has provided us (Both Left & Right) a тАЬsafe spaceЁЯШЙтАЭ to come & agree to disagree.
Have a nice rest of your day.
That Texas heat is baking. You mentioned the "Biden Crime Family". I did not ask you to prove it because my dad always told me never have a battle of wits when your opponent is unarmed.
I always knew that to be true. People retire in cold, expensive areas of the country, and do the math, which tells them very quickly that they should move to a place where the weather is better and the cost of living lower. It's not rocket science. But the left likes to think that they are somehow subsidizing all the red states, and that people are stupid for moving to them.
What normal, rational PEOPLE want is to be left the fuck alone. Don't even need to be a conservative!
Remember the tyrannical lock down by the ever senile Biden and his left wing minions? I said then that the left cares more about illegal aliens (I mean undocumented Democrats) than US citizens.
While the NAZIs were locking us down and forcing small businesses to close they were letting hundreds thousands of unvaccinated aliens in and dispersing them all over the US. I lived in Central America for forty years and I can tell you in most if not all of these countries there is no mass vaccination policy. In the US we have mass vaccinations for polio, diphtheria, whooping cough, and many more diseases that we have almost wiped out here in the States but are common in Latin America.
Below is and example of the criminal behavior of the ever senile Joe's government:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jul/18/health-department-released-thousands-of-illegal-im/
I wonder if comprof will put his mop down long enough to justify the ever senile Joe's policies.
But you are conservative if that's your view. The other side certainly won't have you!
I resist labels as they are meaningless at best and misleading at worst - just look up what the word "liberal" means! Or go back in time to what the founders thought of as "liberal".
I wrote this about a year ago. It is still relevant.
I subscribe to an opinion newsletter called Common Sense. It mainly defends the First Amendment and it defends it from the nut cases on the left and the right. Common Sense does a pretty good job of being politically neutral. However, because the mainstream press and many universities have to the gone far left, most of the articles are how the left through political correctness, the woke and the me too movements are attempting to destroy the First Amendment. The left does not debate you on the merit of what is said or what you have written, they attack you and most times viciously.
Below is a response I wrote to an article in Common Sense:
You call the left, liberals. I can't bring myself to do that. A true liberal embraces free speech. John Stuart Mill one of the founders of liberalism was a staunch defender of free speech. He said in his essay on liberalism, I'm paraphrasing here, "You should listen to your adversaries because they might be right."
The left today are not liberals. If you don't agree with the left, you are pilloried by the left. I read the definition of a racist, "Is anyone who wins an argument with a liberal."
Whatever happened to, "I may not agree with you but I will defend to the death your right to say it."? In July of 1977 the American NAZI Party was going to march through Skokie, Illinois. Seven Thousand Holocaust survivors lived in Skokie. Words cannot describe how disgusted and appalled I was by this proposed vile act. Of all people who defended this atrocity was the ACLU. I was shocked until I heard why they were defended the NAZIs right to march.
They weren't defending the NAZIs. They were defending the First Amendment, freedom of expression. I am a gentile and much as I despised the NAZIs I love the First Amendment more. I only wish the left loved the First Amendment as much as I do but they don't.
So please stop calling them liberals because they aren't. They are tyrants.
Perfectly put and much appreciated.
I am All Growed Up,, I can tie my own shoes, I know to look Both Ways before crossing the street. Here is some money...Go Away.
As for calling me stupid....They MAY have a point. :-)
Preach. Well said.
Preaching is never in style. Just sayin.
Preach = Keep going...
Government is the enemy
That is what our founding fathers thought. They put clauses in the constitution ti limit the power of government but the thieves in Washington work around those clauses. See the tenth amendment.
Yes, I agree. I wrote my statement in a fit of anger. As I think about it, it is something that we should all be able to agree on - government is the enemy.
Human history is replete with examples of government oppression of the people. On the other end of the scale is the chaos of insufficient governance. This is the human comedy. How do we rule our selves.
I have said before, we need a betrayal of public trust amendment where our elected, appointed and high ranking us government officials are closely watched to insure they are not breaking any laws, felonies or breaking the public trust.
If found of breaking the public trust they are dragged out of the capital building, dragged down the steps. At the bottom of the steps is a large, well muscled, man, oiled up, standing in beside a chopping block and holding a large ax very sharp.
The congress man or woman is forced to kneel and place their head on the chopping block and then beheaded, all on national TV as a subtle hint to the rest of the thieves on capitol hill not to screw the taxpayers.
Before someone in a cheap suit and an FBI id shows up at my front door, I'm being sarcastic, joking, exercising first amendment rights that the left is trying to take away from all of us.
And the penalty for treason should be the same you suggested. It used to be hanging, drawing and quartering. I'd like to see it used on any president who accepted bribes from malign foreign powers - laundered or not through family members.
If proven true that Biden accepted money from foreign governments to use his office to change or sway policy, that is treason and he should be execute along with any others in the Biden crime family who took part in selling out our country.
Except, I bet nothing EVER happens to the Biden Crime Family! Just like nothing will ever happen to Hillary!
When the тАЬLiar in ChiefтАЭ says stupid things and blatantly lies, his supporters cover for him. If BidenтАЩs crimes should happen to be proven beyond a doubt, THEN his supporters (+ MSM) will resort to excusing his criminal behaviors with тАЬWell, Uncle Joe DOES show signs of dementia, so you surely canтАЩt hold him accountable NOW!тАЭ
Unfortunately, you are probably right.
We already have many laws that deal with the betrayal of trust by public officials...
Just try to get them enforced...
Kind of like the gun enhancement sentencing laws. If enforced, a lot of the criminals who like using guns to commit their crimes would be locked up (and thus not committing gun crimes) for a very long time.
But Leftist prosecutors won't enforce those laws. And then Democrats use (preventable) gun crimes to call for MORE gun control laws--specifically ones that will punish law-abiding gun owners.
ThatтАЩs my idea as well, hum, we are sympatico: love it!
Ugh. Why do all the politicians you support are happy to collect their big pay checks and benefits from the Federal government while dissing Washington? Height of hypocrisy. TheyтАЩre scamming you!
Their paychecks aren't that good, but boy, those retirement benefits are extraordinary...
Any person on the civil service rolls get, guaranteed, 75% of their last three years' annual average salary plus medical benefits that civilians would love to have.
Plus, L.K., I find it ironic how politicians go to Washington DC and on those тАЬnot so good paychecksтАЭ get filthy rich! We have the best politicians money can buy - both Left & Right!
And it seems once they get elected, their moral compass gets put aside for the power of their position. ALL of them want to make getting re-elected year after year their lifelong goal!
Lord Acton, a British historian said, тАЬPower tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutelyтАЭ
Yup. A man I know called that trade-off golden handcuffs.
You prefer supporting politicians who *praise* D.C. and its system for scamming the populace while they collect big pay checks and benefits?
I'm glad we agree that the size of government is way too big with "politicians...who are happy to collect their big pay checks".
Starve the Beast!
For the record, 34 year Manhattan resident in complete agreement with you...
IтАЩm from NY , near the City and am a New Yorker. And I agree with you. NYC skims from its own though, unfortunately. Not from the rest of the country. But IтАЩm in strong sympathy with the gist of this piece. I donтАЩt like Trump at all, but I get it. I understand his popularity. I certainly canтАЩt stand Biden, Hilary and the rest of them. I would love to make it out there someday and felt the need say that all New Yorkers are different. Most of us are not elitists with our head up our ass.
Do some research on your home state my friend. YouтАЩre working with misinformation if youтАЩre agreeing with MJack.
He's not speaking for his entire state, he appears to be speaking strictly for himself in this comment, so....
Perfect name mam.
She certainly is a Karen
SheтАЩs probably still wearing a mask.
Respectfully, why is it necessary to make such a comment, Butterfly? It's not funny and it seems rude.
:-D
Karen - I have honestly no idea what youтАЩre asking me to do. Can you explain further? Thanks.
I told you she wouldn't.
Mike, I doubt if she will.
It looks like a left wing hit and run.
IтАЩm not тАЬleft-wingтАЭ. Everything is black and white with you it seems. I thought what I said was pretty self-explanatory so IтАЩll leave it at that. Also, I donтАЩt have any time to re-engage, so apologies to Mike.
If youтАЩre saying IтАЩm for government doing what itтАЩs supposed to do for people, guilty as charged.
Ha ha. No time for anti-neurosis.
And what is government supposed to "do" for people? If it's people, plural, then it's probably ok. If it's for people on an individual level... then, well, that's not what the Constitution says.
This is what Government should do, per the document that permits it:
Provide for the common defense.
Promote the general welfare
Secure the blessing of Liberty.
the words Common, General, Liberty are most important there. There ain't nothing in there about "choosing some to receive more than others" or "helping preferred groups" or "kowtowing to multinational organizations"
In fact the Liberty line pretty much should disqualify most of the rules of the administrative state, especially re: gas stoves, etc.
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