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Piccolo Venezia's avatar

The biggest risk we face in the United States is that politics has become a religion and the possibility of a religious civil war is beginning to be significant. As a conservative, I lay most of the blame for the increasing temperature and increasing risk on the increasing tendency of the "woke" to restrict free speech, to report only those world events which support their narrative, to gaslight every political event as something other than what it is and ultimately to weaponize all the arms of government against their political enemies. I am not a particular fan of Trump but US institutions survived his Presidency in reasonable shape. I cannot say the same of the Obama and Biden Presidencies.

I sometimes think liberals have decided that they cannot afford any common sense in their reporting and analysis of the world. Instead of "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, etc.", they say, "if it walks like a duck, it must be a mutant elephant because it has wide feet." Is there any one out there who really believes that the Biden Family is not extremely corrupt in the classic sense of the word? You have to think that Biden runs Harding as the most corrupt President in history. By comparison, there is absolutely no indication that Trump or anyone close to him ever requested or accepted cash payments for access, policy or anything else and, by now with all the liberal sleuths out there turning over every rock, any such behavior would have been found. Does anyone really believe Hunter Biden's paintings are selling on their own merit as art?

When Trump is reelected, which, whether I like it or not, is becoming a real possibility, there has to be a better than 50/50 chance that the "woke" will attempt a coup by violence and that this coup will be resisted with violence.

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rob's avatar

mark it, if trump appears to have the electoral votes every technique and strategy he is accused of will be done in 2024 and harris will not certify the election

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LovingMother's avatar

I don't think that Trump would be a great choice for the next president. I think that DeSantis is the man of the hour. I do see DeSantis maybe having young and inexperienced -in-government Vivek working in his administration. (One reason Trump got eaten for lunch in the WH is that government was new to him.) However, recent events and news coverage (including none on the Biden Crime Family) are making me feel more positive about Trump. I sure would take him for our country over any Democrat (I liked Gabbard but she's an Independent now) or Haley, Scott, or Pence. So, for the first time I can envision Trump in '24 and DeSantis in '28. And, I used to be an Independent.

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Piccolo Venezia's avatar

I like DeSantis as President - I think he would actually get stuff done. My problem with Trump is that he is relatively ineffectual, partly because of his personality and partly because he inspires the worst in Democrats. In an ideal world, Trump would step aside, DeSantis would get elected and then pardon Trump and every other conservative targeted by the Deep State. That would get a lot of garbage off the table and allow DeSantis to focus on the many areas that need attention.

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LovingMother's avatar

I really like your vision and agree with your assessment.

At this stage in the 2016 election it looked like Jeb Bush would be the sure GOP Primary winner. Then, Trump jumped in and then plowed everyone under during the debates. After that polls between him and Hilary were unreliable. So, I think to some degree we are all letting ourselves be run by media spin. It's too early to know what will happen. Saying that would not get any clicks. It sure would be ideal if Trump stepped aside and endorsed DeSantis - which likely won't happen but if it did I think it would happen at a more dramatic time - like during the GOP primary debate season.

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Piccolo Venezia's avatar

Trump can't pardon himself. It would even be difficult for him to pardon those who have been targeted for supporting him. But a different Republican President could pardon all of them, including Trump, on the grounds that the weaponized DOJ essentially framed everyone associated with Trump and that the country needed to move on from the endless cycle of indictments and largely baseless prosecutions. It would be a 24-48 hour news story and that would be the end of it.

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LovingMother's avatar

Sounds good to me. DeSantis would be excellent. He has a track record in FL. I don't think Haley, Scott, or Pence would be any good. I am not up for just any R candidate. Too many have rolled with destructive post modernist "culture war" against our society (and our daughters) - like CRT and the Gender Cult Religion.

Something will have to be done about Admiral First Female Levine with an R president in office. Like, perhaps a trial and execution.

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LovingMother's avatar

To summarize for anyone not up to date about our Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary, the Admiral, he uses his position to promote the experimental drugging and mutilation of children, teens and young adults as "care" under the term Gender Identity. This is a different matter from what a few middle aged men might do. https://www.dailywire.com/news/transgender-hhs-official-gender-affirming-care-will-be-normalized

Gender Identity was coined by a Doctor John Money who experimented on and abused a pair of teen boys who each committed suicide as adults - I believe in their 30s.

The Admiral does this in the face of mounting evidence that such "care" harms rather than helps. Studies showing it helps kids have been shown to be faulty and promoted by activists and people who make bank in the field. Europe has reversed course. So, Levine promotes harm from high position with full knowledge that it is harm. Guilty. Let us not be distracted from the evils of the current administration with the constantly trumped up Trump stuff. I really don't see anyone but DeSantis being an effective next president but I will vote for Trump if it's the option we have. I recommend Dr. Grossman's new book "Lost in Trans Nation".

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Honey Daly's avatar

Well said, Robert, and I totally agree!

The WOKE Left will never accept a Trump Presidency, again! If we thought the riots, never reported on by MSM, that took place after Trump won in 2016, OR the rioting, burning, looting was bad after the George Floyd BLM/ANTIFA / $2 Billion destruction was bad (both tolerated and downplayed by the Democrats), we can only imagine what may happen should Trump win in 2024.

Deep down I’m doubtful a Republican or Independent, or even a moderate Democrat can ever be elected, again.

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Piccolo Venezia's avatar

I think there is a chance that a Republican or a centrist Democrat can be elected. But whether the losing party accepts the loss is questionable. Both Clinton and Trump are convinced they won their elections and, under the First Amendment, both are entitled to their opinion and to state their opinion as loudly and as often as they like.

The problem is that the NYT, WP, NBC, CBS, ABC and their satellite cable channels are likely to support the violent overthrow of a Trump election if Trump wins. "These are just normal people protesting the election. I am sure they did not mean to kill 200 people. It was a mostly peaceful protest. It was a figment of your imagination that they were wearing balaclavas and carrying assault rifles."

And, during the election, they will meddle as much and as often as they can to throw the election to the Democrat. At present they are certainly trying their hardest to ignore the myriad issues with Biden: senility, bribery, corruption, failed policies, etc.

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LovingMother's avatar

Agree. But, we should never accept it.

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Honey Daly's avatar

Well said, Robert!

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