Not only are they out of touch with ordinary Americans but (and I can say this as someone who works in this industry) they openly despise them. Of course I’m painting with a broad brush here but the bubble is real.
Isn't that why Top Gun: Maverick was a success? It didn't despise America or heroes; it celebrated them. Before the pandemic, we used to go to movies regularly but other than TG:M, the only picture I've seen is Elvis, in which Austin Butler was outstanding.
And TG:M became a success after its major Chinese investor pulled out because Cruise wouldn't remove the Taiwan flag from his bomber jacket. Most producers would have kowtowed to the Chinese and removed the flag.
I don't think it is a broad brush at all when it comes to advertising. Gillette's distain for their customers was pretty obvious when they came out with their ad series about being a better man.
I saw it with my 24 year old son and then we went back to see it with my husband. We hadn't been in a theater in a long time. Tom is good for the movie business and the public has spoken. We don't want to watch woke movies.
Tom can play the hero. He can play comedy or a psychopathic assassin. He can almost do it all and he does it convincingly.
James Cagney could do it all. Cagney could play the villain, the hero, comedy and he could dance and sing. Hugh Jackman is the closest thing to Cagney.
Yes, and have you noticed in all new movies the following:
A man will always cry at least once.
The white guy is always the idiot or the bad guy, the crazy active shooter or whatever.
The hero or strongest character is always and women and often of color.
Now, I am not saying the hero shouldn't be a women of color, but when every movie is the same way, it's sorta obvious that they are engineering this...now one could say that people and heros of color were underrepresented and that is likely true, but remember Hollywood made the rules not us....and now, I feel they are changing too much in the other direction. Whereas they are erasing white people or trying to create the belief that only white people do bad things or specifically white men are dumb meat puppets who do bad things. It's terrible.
They a programming the younger generation to believe these things.
Pay attention to TV shows, movies and even commercials. It's everywhere now. And once you notice it, it's hard to not. It's become a running joke in our house. "Oh, look, the idiot in the group is the white guy again and now he's crying, because all men cry in public to their friends." Who saves the day? The big, tall woman does. Because that's reality. Right? Lol.
And I am all for diversity in entertainment and the world. But not when it's done at the expense of one group. Movies should be filled with a true representation of the world. Sometimes the white guy is the idiot and sometimes the person of color is idiot.
And I am a woman and crying is best done in private if it can be avoided. Not saying people shouldn't cry...cry your face off when you need too, but keep your shit together in public, please. Unless of course you witnessed something in public that is heartbreaking. But men crying in movies because they had their hearts broken? Really? While America is turning their men into women, China is turning their men into warriors. Coincidence? 🤔
This is sad but I was laughing while writing this cause I don't take myself or life too seriously. Just some observations from one person's perspective.
Shonda Rhimes perfected this. I know because my wife has loved "Grey's Anatomy" and I have watched the show since the beginning. Originally, it was a mix of white, black, asians, etc. mostly women, but enough men who were mostly hunky and great surgeons. That was fine, she identified her audience and it worked well. But, she kept pressing. Surgeons are not emotional people, especially at work. But, soon all the surgeons were having emotional crisis's and any white males left were all troubled in some fundamental way. Now it is hilarious with a bunch of female surgeons, wandering around the hospital dealing with their emotional states and having lots of hot partners including a transgender doctor and several gay characters. There isn't a single "normal" relationship where heterosexual couples do their jobs and raise their kids. So, I am all for having lots of different characters, but this is so far from any form of reality that even my wife laughs at the ridiculousness of it all. You can now watch it as a farce.........
My wife and used to watch Grey's but stop watching when BLM and Antifa marched on Seatle and the emergency room was filled by "peaceful" demonstrators who were beat up by the vicious police.
That never happened in Seatle. The Democrat mayor and governor never let the police respond to these vicious, murdering rioters. The Democrat mayor betray the citizens of Seatle by letting these thugs take over downtown Seatle.
The loony left producers and director of Grey's lied and sensationalize something that never happen just to show how much they were compassionately in tuned to left wing thugs. I have never watched it since.
I think its all the soy in our diets. I know two men who finally had their hormone levels checked because they just felt really off! Crying all the time, emotional swings, etc. when they saw how much estrogen they had that was above normal they started taking testosterone supplements and feel way better and are way less emotional. Soy is in everything. I started making our own mayo with eggs from our range free chickens just to avoid soy for my husband and my son.
Ads on TV are more a part of everyday life than movies and - if they even have a white male - they typically show him in the idiot or clown role. I pay attention and buy as little as possible from companies that insult me. Gillette was one of the first when they came out with their idiotic "be a better man" ads that they have since pulled due to the backlash.
I get all my shaving stuff now from Dollar Shave Club. Gillette today is overpriced and lower quality. But I might not have ever looked at DSC if it had not been for the Gillette ads.
I must say recent commentary has reinvigorated my combative nature and as a result I am rethinking my position on the Trump Train. If I recommit I may weigh in more heavily financially thus time.
Yip that’s the best attack drop all the products. I boycott so many things like Coke, Nike, Adidas. I don’t support cable TV no news channels at all including Fox don’t do Facebook or Twitter. Thank God for FP although sometimes they get on my nerves.
The Woke (wrongly) think that most Americans are against mixed race couples. Thus, they think that by showing mixed race couples, they will "normalize" it. That's what all this stuff is about. They have a warped view of American society, and think that by magically "centering" and "normalizing" what they think our culture should be, it will magically become. Some power in that, I'll admit. Kahneman's persuasion and all. But, it only goes so far.
The media and the woke corporations are racist...wait, make that classists. They are worse than anybody. Listen to Jennifer Seys book Levi's Unbuttoned to hear what hypocrites the left corporate leaders are when it comes to all the woke issues. Or find an interview with her.
It's a weird sort of cult. A social virus that escaped from the Academia Lab and has infected every major institution in the US. A small percentage (10-15%?) believe the stuff. Everyone else just recognizes its power and viciousness and will not stand up to it. The stories I hear from corp America are stunning......
It makes a lot of (sick, craven) sense. Say you get into Harvard, Yale, Stanford or Wharton's business schools and you assemble with your fellow newbies at the start of your MBA program. Unless you or the Bank of Mom & Dad are made of money, you're investing a fortune in this endeavor.
You'll learn a lot--statistics, marketing, financial analysis, game theory, contract law and with them, risk analysis. In risk analysis, you'll learn that it's better to stay with the herd--not more moral but your chances are statistically better if you don't buck the popular trends. So an MBA teaches you all about how originality and innovation are supposedly prized in the business world and then it teaches you how these are dangerous to your career if you lead the way and the crowd doesn't follow.
So your rationale brains tells you, "Go Woke & Go broke" and your short-term survival brain looks at your boss's door and says, "Which way to the cult of safe-think?"
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Source: "What They Teach You at Harvard Business School", Philip Delves Broughton.
I presume he meant this is how it is in the USA but it is just the same in the UK. The Advertising Standards Authority basically said that is how it should be. Personally I find it this social engineering annoying and insulting
You can definitely give the Oscars a miss st of all the Asian film is going to win and it’s going to take Best Actress as well. Outrage a much better bet you can scream all you want at or with Chris Rock I really felt good after watching it.
Greg, this isn't free enterprise anymore since the WEF, which controls virtually every dominant company in the Western world, took over. Wall Street, tech giants, big pharma, legacy media, Hollywood, the education "industry," etc. all march in lock step. Small business is is dying and all industries are consolidating so soon a very small number of companies will control all commerce. This is the new totalitarianism we live in. It borrows from Marxism and fascism, and it allows no dissent. Oh, they also "own" nearly all Western world governments, certainly the Biden admin.
No need to get nasty and call those who disagree with you simple minded. just because you believe what you say is true, doesn't mean it's true. I know this is hard to believe but you might, just might, be wrong. And the people who disagree with you might be right.
The uniparty, which includes the WEF run industry....not "the left." Three companies fund everything left and right. We are under the illusion of a two party system but everything that is happening today is evidence that this is false. Layers and layers of facade to make it appear left vs right. To think we have a choice, that is simple-minded. The ads are literally a filtered down narrative from the uniparty attempting to control the West. It's an organized crime syndicate.
Exactly. You two actually agree more than you grasp.
And JCB's comment merely points up that, these days, (the "fear-factor") motivations are coming "from the 'Left's' dogma :
companies buying ad time on television--and the ad & marketing firms which pitch and sell the ads these companies are buying right now-- are running scared of the supposed dominance of racial-driven factors as vital in a mass-media visual ad's content. There is nothing subtle or accidental about the visual content. The marketing and ad agencies tell their clients,--when it's not already a demand on the client's part-- the corporations, that putting Blacks in every ad is essential for both their image and for allaying claims that the ads are "too white" (LOL!)
Advertising buys are _always_ craven attempts to pander to conventional thinking, _always_ trailing (perception of dominant conventional) public opinion, _never_ leading it.
There are plenty of "crusaders" in advertising but _none_ of them are trail-blazers, out in front of safe public views of the world.
Not only are they out of touch with ordinary Americans but (and I can say this as someone who works in this industry) they openly despise them. Of course I’m painting with a broad brush here but the bubble is real.
Very real
Isn't that why Top Gun: Maverick was a success? It didn't despise America or heroes; it celebrated them. Before the pandemic, we used to go to movies regularly but other than TG:M, the only picture I've seen is Elvis, in which Austin Butler was outstanding.
And TG:M became a success after its major Chinese investor pulled out because Cruise wouldn't remove the Taiwan flag from his bomber jacket. Most producers would have kowtowed to the Chinese and removed the flag.
I don't think it is a broad brush at all when it comes to advertising. Gillette's distain for their customers was pretty obvious when they came out with their ad series about being a better man.
Have not purchased anything from Gillette since.
I like to get my preaching in church.
I saw it with my 24 year old son and then we went back to see it with my husband. We hadn't been in a theater in a long time. Tom is good for the movie business and the public has spoken. We don't want to watch woke movies.
Tom can play the hero. He can play comedy or a psychopathic assassin. He can almost do it all and he does it convincingly.
James Cagney could do it all. Cagney could play the villain, the hero, comedy and he could dance and sing. Hugh Jackman is the closest thing to Cagney.
Ginger Rogers is actually.
Try taking your eyes off him. That's the definition of a star.
I agree.
Yes, and have you noticed in all new movies the following:
A man will always cry at least once.
The white guy is always the idiot or the bad guy, the crazy active shooter or whatever.
The hero or strongest character is always and women and often of color.
Now, I am not saying the hero shouldn't be a women of color, but when every movie is the same way, it's sorta obvious that they are engineering this...now one could say that people and heros of color were underrepresented and that is likely true, but remember Hollywood made the rules not us....and now, I feel they are changing too much in the other direction. Whereas they are erasing white people or trying to create the belief that only white people do bad things or specifically white men are dumb meat puppets who do bad things. It's terrible.
They a programming the younger generation to believe these things.
Pay attention to TV shows, movies and even commercials. It's everywhere now. And once you notice it, it's hard to not. It's become a running joke in our house. "Oh, look, the idiot in the group is the white guy again and now he's crying, because all men cry in public to their friends." Who saves the day? The big, tall woman does. Because that's reality. Right? Lol.
And I am all for diversity in entertainment and the world. But not when it's done at the expense of one group. Movies should be filled with a true representation of the world. Sometimes the white guy is the idiot and sometimes the person of color is idiot.
And I am a woman and crying is best done in private if it can be avoided. Not saying people shouldn't cry...cry your face off when you need too, but keep your shit together in public, please. Unless of course you witnessed something in public that is heartbreaking. But men crying in movies because they had their hearts broken? Really? While America is turning their men into women, China is turning their men into warriors. Coincidence? 🤔
This is sad but I was laughing while writing this cause I don't take myself or life too seriously. Just some observations from one person's perspective.
Shonda Rhimes perfected this. I know because my wife has loved "Grey's Anatomy" and I have watched the show since the beginning. Originally, it was a mix of white, black, asians, etc. mostly women, but enough men who were mostly hunky and great surgeons. That was fine, she identified her audience and it worked well. But, she kept pressing. Surgeons are not emotional people, especially at work. But, soon all the surgeons were having emotional crisis's and any white males left were all troubled in some fundamental way. Now it is hilarious with a bunch of female surgeons, wandering around the hospital dealing with their emotional states and having lots of hot partners including a transgender doctor and several gay characters. There isn't a single "normal" relationship where heterosexual couples do their jobs and raise their kids. So, I am all for having lots of different characters, but this is so far from any form of reality that even my wife laughs at the ridiculousness of it all. You can now watch it as a farce.........
My wife and used to watch Grey's but stop watching when BLM and Antifa marched on Seatle and the emergency room was filled by "peaceful" demonstrators who were beat up by the vicious police.
That never happened in Seatle. The Democrat mayor and governor never let the police respond to these vicious, murdering rioters. The Democrat mayor betray the citizens of Seatle by letting these thugs take over downtown Seatle.
The loony left producers and director of Grey's lied and sensationalize something that never happen just to show how much they were compassionately in tuned to left wing thugs. I have never watched it since.
#metoo 😂😂
Now I think in America the men in blue are the bad guys.
We have also noticed the difference in programming, especially commercials, and we never noticed that kind of thing before. You just can't unsee it.
Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!
Have you considered a career in standup?
Loved this post!
I think its all the soy in our diets. I know two men who finally had their hormone levels checked because they just felt really off! Crying all the time, emotional swings, etc. when they saw how much estrogen they had that was above normal they started taking testosterone supplements and feel way better and are way less emotional. Soy is in everything. I started making our own mayo with eggs from our range free chickens just to avoid soy for my husband and my son.
Ads on TV are more a part of everyday life than movies and - if they even have a white male - they typically show him in the idiot or clown role. I pay attention and buy as little as possible from companies that insult me. Gillette was one of the first when they came out with their idiotic "be a better man" ads that they have since pulled due to the backlash.
I get all my shaving stuff now from Dollar Shave Club. Gillette today is overpriced and lower quality. But I might not have ever looked at DSC if it had not been for the Gillette ads.
Lot of guys just grew beards
Yip I have switched a lot of products and the rest that I can’t stand I boycott like Coca Cola, Disney, Nike and Adidas etc
Me too. Apparently my pocketbook vote carries more weight than my ballot does.
😂😂😂then drain the pocket book we can’t have that Lynn!
I must say recent commentary has reinvigorated my combative nature and as a result I am rethinking my position on the Trump Train. If I recommit I may weigh in more heavily financially thus time.
Trump 2024.
Yip that’s the best attack drop all the products. I boycott so many things like Coke, Nike, Adidas. I don’t support cable TV no news channels at all including Fox don’t do Facebook or Twitter. Thank God for FP although sometimes they get on my nerves.
I agree.
Chris Rock in his latest Netflix special said in his routine, "Have you noticed that every commercial has a mixed race couple?"
I have no problem with mixed race couples but if you watch the commercials, you would think every couple is a mixed race couple.
Once again, the left cannot deal with reality.
The Woke (wrongly) think that most Americans are against mixed race couples. Thus, they think that by showing mixed race couples, they will "normalize" it. That's what all this stuff is about. They have a warped view of American society, and think that by magically "centering" and "normalizing" what they think our culture should be, it will magically become. Some power in that, I'll admit. Kahneman's persuasion and all. But, it only goes so far.
The media and the woke corporations are racist...wait, make that classists. They are worse than anybody. Listen to Jennifer Seys book Levi's Unbuttoned to hear what hypocrites the left corporate leaders are when it comes to all the woke issues. Or find an interview with her.
It's a weird sort of cult. A social virus that escaped from the Academia Lab and has infected every major institution in the US. A small percentage (10-15%?) believe the stuff. Everyone else just recognizes its power and viciousness and will not stand up to it. The stories I hear from corp America are stunning......
It makes a lot of (sick, craven) sense. Say you get into Harvard, Yale, Stanford or Wharton's business schools and you assemble with your fellow newbies at the start of your MBA program. Unless you or the Bank of Mom & Dad are made of money, you're investing a fortune in this endeavor.
You'll learn a lot--statistics, marketing, financial analysis, game theory, contract law and with them, risk analysis. In risk analysis, you'll learn that it's better to stay with the herd--not more moral but your chances are statistically better if you don't buck the popular trends. So an MBA teaches you all about how originality and innovation are supposedly prized in the business world and then it teaches you how these are dangerous to your career if you lead the way and the crowd doesn't follow.
So your rationale brains tells you, "Go Woke & Go broke" and your short-term survival brain looks at your boss's door and says, "Which way to the cult of safe-think?"
--------------------------
Source: "What They Teach You at Harvard Business School", Philip Delves Broughton.
Chris also said that PC/Woke outrage was selective outrage. Which it is.
I presume he meant this is how it is in the USA but it is just the same in the UK. The Advertising Standards Authority basically said that is how it should be. Personally I find it this social engineering annoying and insulting
I agree.
I enjoyed Outrage, Chris hit some truth right on it’s head especially with the Kardashians and Will and Jada Smith 😄😄
It's still on my list for this weekend. Maybe will watch it Sunday night in honor of the Oscars.
You can definitely give the Oscars a miss st of all the Asian film is going to win and it’s going to take Best Actress as well. Outrage a much better bet you can scream all you want at or with Chris Rock I really felt good after watching it.
Commercials are not a function of "the left". They are a function of how business is being run.
You are splitting hairs.
Yeah, the business is terrified some jackass will accuse them of racism or sexism so they kowtow to the woke elite. Which is to say, the hard left.
To true
And maybe that is from the 'left'
No maybe about it.
Attributing the forces that run industry to "the left" shows a deep misunderstanding of the way the world works. It's simple-minded.
It is industry that buys and determines the content of commercials.
Greg, this isn't free enterprise anymore since the WEF, which controls virtually every dominant company in the Western world, took over. Wall Street, tech giants, big pharma, legacy media, Hollywood, the education "industry," etc. all march in lock step. Small business is is dying and all industries are consolidating so soon a very small number of companies will control all commerce. This is the new totalitarianism we live in. It borrows from Marxism and fascism, and it allows no dissent. Oh, they also "own" nearly all Western world governments, certainly the Biden admin.
Your take on "industry" is simply out of date.
No need to get nasty and call those who disagree with you simple minded. just because you believe what you say is true, doesn't mean it's true. I know this is hard to believe but you might, just might, be wrong. And the people who disagree with you might be right.
The uniparty, which includes the WEF run industry....not "the left." Three companies fund everything left and right. We are under the illusion of a two party system but everything that is happening today is evidence that this is false. Layers and layers of facade to make it appear left vs right. To think we have a choice, that is simple-minded. The ads are literally a filtered down narrative from the uniparty attempting to control the West. It's an organized crime syndicate.
Exactly. You two actually agree more than you grasp.
And JCB's comment merely points up that, these days, (the "fear-factor") motivations are coming "from the 'Left's' dogma :
companies buying ad time on television--and the ad & marketing firms which pitch and sell the ads these companies are buying right now-- are running scared of the supposed dominance of racial-driven factors as vital in a mass-media visual ad's content. There is nothing subtle or accidental about the visual content. The marketing and ad agencies tell their clients,--when it's not already a demand on the client's part-- the corporations, that putting Blacks in every ad is essential for both their image and for allaying claims that the ads are "too white" (LOL!)
Advertising buys are _always_ craven attempts to pander to conventional thinking, _always_ trailing (perception of dominant conventional) public opinion, _never_ leading it.
There are plenty of "crusaders" in advertising but _none_ of them are trail-blazers, out in front of safe public views of the world.
Exactly. Unreal.
Tom was way ahead of his time about Big Pharma. Check out this interview from
2005 about prescription psychiatric drugs: https://youtu.be/tRXZ0oant6Q
Excellent interview