American people are great people. When my birth country was ravaged by war in 1990, we received packages with "Donated by people of United States" written on them. I remember my grandfather telling me same, that he to as a child in 1945 also received packages with similar inscription. There are few nations that are so ready to help, as p…
American people are great people. When my birth country was ravaged by war in 1990, we received packages with "Donated by people of United States" written on them. I remember my grandfather telling me same, that he to as a child in 1945 also received packages with similar inscription. There are few nations that are so ready to help, as people of USA are.
That being said, please what I write now is not criticism on People of US, but on US politicians.
I disagree with large parts of this article. For last 30 years, US, trough its misguided foreign policy has been effectily running its self to the ground. And only thing exceptional in US seem to be its ever increasing debt that we will leave to our children.
And no US is not some special nation that its soly duty in the world is to "defend" our allies, that are in many cases very rich, and have for years underinvested in their own defense, because you know "crazy" Americans are spending more than enough and will defend Europe in necessary.
I have lived in EU for years, they have much higher social spending for their own population, free college, free healthcare, paid family leave and many more. At same time, healthcare in US is in crisis, we have opioid crisis, we have looming college debt crisis and many others.
EU itself has larger population and GDP than USA, why do our tax dollars need to defend them? I have a feeling that EU will defend itself to the last $ of US tax payers.
I currently live and work in China, but I am under no illusion, US main geopolitical rival in 21st century will be China. And while we are in process of bankrupting our self for defense of very rich EU, that same EU has absolutly no interest in supporting us when it comes to China. If you think that Germany is addicted to import of Russian gas, it is 10 times worse when it comes to their exports to China, same goes to Italy, France and many other EU nations.
Trough complely insane foreign policy, that is focused on NGOs and "spreading" of democracy, we have lost Africa and Asia to China. Good African friend of mine put it best:
"US shows up and wants to teach us some woke nonsense that is simply not applicable to our country and then actively meddles in our internal affairs, at same time China comes and build all infrastructure we need and don't meddle in our internal politics, what do you think, who do we like more?". I know the answer, because China plays same game in my birth country. And China is winning long game.
What US needs now, is not to focus on external affairs, especially not on those on continent rich as Europe. US needs to fix itself, especially issue with our ever ballooning debt that is spiraling out of control. Then we should finally deal with mounting internal crisis (healthcare, college debt, opioid, mental health, social security and others).
World needs US, but if US continues to destroy itself as we have been doing in last 30 years, who will help US?
US needs to be exceptional of its own people, to be shiny beacon for immigrants that come here, we are not worlds police, last 30 years has show that being world police only costs treasure with zero benefits to people of America. We cannot fix the world.
Why the USA Government & its politicians don't help Americans first is continually baffling....yet today we see infant formula at the border for illegal migrants and none in the shops for Americans. We see jobs shifted abroad, we see no plans for infrastructure just lots of money allocated. Our leadership has no vision and has let the electorate down - that is BOTH parties.
CC I think Americans have let Americans down we don’t know what we want or need we had a President who was for American First - we apparently voted in a man with 8 million more votes in 2020 whose policies are America Last now why in Gods name would we have done that if that’s answered truthfully maybe then we will all have a better understand of where we stand as a nation 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You’re right about the US being in very bad internal shape, but the EU and China have their own serious problems. China is the world’s largest importer of food and, due to industrialization and environmental pollution, is running out of water. And, because of it’s one-child policy (now dropped), the population will grow old before it grows rich. Then, too, a revolutionary government is always highly vulnerable to collapse, especially as its totalitarian policies are more and more on display. And African nations may find their dependency on Chinese infrastructure to be as double-edged as Germany’s dependence on Russian oil.
As for the EU, its situation is inherently tenuous, with “exit” movements having emerged in France, Italy, Greece, Poland, and Hungary. The vaccine rollout of Britain versus Brussels showed how the inflexible EU bureaucracy is incapable of acting quickly, even in the midst of a pandemic, and other internal policy tensions abound. The trend in the world is to get smaller, not to confederate. And, once the EU starts paying for its own defense, individual countries will find it increasingly difficult to support large welfare systems.
Focusing on social problems is not the answer, at least not as long as the US is the US. Bolstering support for the principles that guided the development of the world’s oldest democracy is. Unfortunately, the only principle that our ruling elites seem to want to follow is winning, whatever that means and whatever the cost.
Leslie...makes sense to me. I can remove my thoughts on the "green world", which sounds nice, which is pushed in order to show "how naughty We Is".
No mention, when promoting "green", about China reliance on COAL. They have plans for 120 J Bridger coal plants ( HUGE) along with their 600 coal plants in operation.
Oh yes, we knock em down and they build more...is that a joke?
All I’m trying to say is that, as Russia has shown, our foes aren’t as powerful as we fear. And, despite the current internal chaos, our inclination toward free expression, innovation, dynamism, and the like make us different, that is, better prepared to respond to and handle devastating events, both local and internationally, only to the extent we agree on and adhere to those policies.
Russia is not our foe, we have made it to be by following EU interests. Russia is on an different continent, we have no land border (small border in Bering sea), our real interests (our focus should be in Asia, their is in Europe) are not overlapping.
If we were smart, we would have made Russia our friend, because now we have pushed it to hands to China, and Russia has everything China needs, resources and food.
And as all proverb says "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and China knows this. We sadly are acting in interest of EU and not our own and that same EU has 0 interest in helping us with China, because the are intested only in their own interests
I agree that Russia is not our foe. As I wrote on a comment thread from early in the hostilities, I think (hope) the US and Russia will one day be allies, particularly in containing China. But there’s a difference between caring about a country’s people and recognizing that it’s impossible to be friends with the elite that is currently in charge.
We shouldn't care who runs Russia, this is not our problem but of Russians themself. Honestly, we have been friends with worse elites than those in Russia, just look at our good friends in Saudi Arabia and rest of middle east.
Sadly, after what is happening now with US supporting Ukraine and getting even more fanatical about NATO (which is compelty irrelevant for US, and is literal money drain on us with no strategic importance for us) Russia has been been lost to China. China has plyed very smart, they have fixed all border issues with Russia and have no ongoing issues, and are now in process of building pipelines to get their oil and gas for cheap and fully over land without US to do anything.
You are correct that we should have tried to maintain good relations with Russia, but that does not change the fact that Putin is an autocrat, silences his own opposition and has presided over war crimes against innocent civilians. I understand realpolitick but there are limits to cozying up to dictators, notwithstanding the CIA's long-term embrace of them.
If the Obama Administration hadn't decided to play Cold War games in Ukraine in 2014, the current war crimes would probably not be happening. I'm not sure how anyone can think that the U.S. did not provoke Putin into behaving as if the Cold War had not ended. Not to diminish Putin's crimes, but there is plenty of blood to cover all of the hands involved.
We are in complete agreement on Obama's incompetence (and Biden's in provoking Putin while slow walking the defensive weapons Ukraine needed to defend itself). But Obama's stupidity doesn't justify war crimes such as targeting cities and civilians.
She did not say it justified war crimes, she said it was naive not to take our country's actions into account in the current war in Ukraine. At least that is how I read her comment. But, when you make bold sweeping statements about arming civilians are you not making civilians military targets?
As long as Bush and his war buddies are running around US sadly has no moral standing to preach about war crimes to anyone. Preaching Russia about war crimes, while Bush is free is just degrading our standing in the world. This is especially true while Assange is in prison.
Bush's invasion of Iraq was dumb, not criminal. The vast numbers of dead Iraqis were created by the Sunni insurgency and Sunni-Shia internecine violence. The occupation was poorly run but civilians were not targeted as they have been in the Ukraine invasion by Russia. There is no equivalence and you do yourself no favor by trying to create one.
I agree that China and EU have their own problems, but those are their problems.
We should be focused on fixing our own issues => fist deficit and ballooning debt, then healthcare & opioids, looming social security bankruptcy, then student debt.
I am not proposing isolationism, but reduced focus of our politicans on foreign affairs.
I agree with you about our internal situation. I don’t agree on government as the answer to the social problems you rightly bemoan—except for student debt, IMO.
I didnt say that the government is the answer to the social problems. I said that we have issues at home that need to be fixed ASAP and that fixing these problems will probably require investment at home. How social problems should be fixed is debatable. I myself am against excessive government involment
But a significant part of the problem.is the massive federal bureaucracy that only knows to take from the productive Americans and give to the unproductive both here and abroad. This is stymies the productive class.
This article (which is very good) is still only describing symptoms. So what's the underlying disease? My contention is careerism, which really got rolling with the Boomers in the Sixties (I am one), and widespread institutional corruption, which is the sine qua non of the Clinton School.
The article is about foreign policy, but the problem is found everywhere in United States culture. Our institutional rulers, our elites, arrived where they are because of the rise of careerism and credential-worship. Far from being a true meritocracy, which they love to crow about, it's just a spoils system where degrees (and where they came from) determine where you get to stand in the handout line. This has now reached the end-game, where everything is relative, nothing is objectively true, and the true Coin of the Realm is just nuclear-strength horseshit, served up as a cure for everything.
Our adversaries do not share our love of horseshit, they do not value it as we do--they see it for what it is: pathetic and worthless. They also understand that an enemy that has only crap for a tool is not a serious threat to anyone but themselves. They see the U.S as a nation devoid of timeless values, and led at every level by corrupt toadies, drunk on their own unearned privilege. Thus, they successfully press their advantages, on every front.
I wish I had a more hopeful post, but the idiots are fully in charge now--and the conclusions are inescapable.
I also thing the beuracritization of policy with little or no fall out for waste and incompetence. Think about our wars for the last 20 years (and the 9/11 failure) and how few civil servants if any were subject to consequences.
I have to agree that the idiots are firmly in charge - counterbalanced, though, by the fact that their ideologies are far from the majority opinion. Of every hundred Americans I encounter, not more than 5% subscribe to the woke, identity-politics, racist agenda of the elite. Is it enough? I don't know. Sure hope so. This place is worth saving.
This is the sort of comment I come here to read. Points of view I hadn't considered, written by someone with broad experience in the topic at hand, responded-to by other folks also with experience.
Side comment: I've really begun to notice how well Substack works. Never a problem with reading or posting; no interference - that I have seen, anyway - with commentary; yet somehow very little in the way of 'bots or obvious trolls. Doesn't blow up your email inbox, but has pertinent alerts. Anybody else notice that you can "heart" a post, but not downvote it? Some designers and programmers did their homework. Well done.
Thanks. You make solid points which are mostly consistent with my understanding. I am however, skeptical that isolationism to the level you suggest is wise.
Also, as I think you know, African nations are being unsustainably indebted by China. It is revealing that while more than half(?) in China live in poverty the CCP chooses to offshore low skilled labor. Can’t imagine why…
This is so true, and many people have no idea how big crisis is brewing with social security that is running out of money, and that current system is not sustainable and needs fixing now.
Agree completely. I've been to 40 nations on six continents. America is in sharp decline and I agree completely that we can NOT afford to be the world's policeman nor do American taxpayers have any obligation whatsoever to foot the bill to resolve border disputes in wealthy Europe.
I disagree Biden is distinctly a Obama lackey it fact Obama is the lead puppeteer pulling the strings and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to understand how we going to get out of this mess
Isolationism is a long way from Obama. He was in the business of being in everyone’s business just he refused to go all the way to war... or refused to go to war when he couldn’t just drone bomb the adversary into the ground. There is something to be said about getting your nose out of the worlds business until it’s in your interest.
Supporting one's country and people (which in the US means everyone who wants to be here...and is multiracial...is not automatically nationalistic or racist. There is healthy forms of positive group affinity and negative forms. You appear to assume that there are only negative forms.
If the comment says "Kevin" assume the worst. Or, actually the best.
Btw - "everyone who wants to be here" is not the correct definition of who gets to be an American. That was provided by Theodore Roosevelt more than a century ago when he wrote: “In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
This is exactly how I was raised. My grandparents came to America to be Americans. They assimilated. We have drifted to far from American patriotism and now wonder how we have become so fragmented.
American people are great people. When my birth country was ravaged by war in 1990, we received packages with "Donated by people of United States" written on them. I remember my grandfather telling me same, that he to as a child in 1945 also received packages with similar inscription. There are few nations that are so ready to help, as people of USA are.
That being said, please what I write now is not criticism on People of US, but on US politicians.
I disagree with large parts of this article. For last 30 years, US, trough its misguided foreign policy has been effectily running its self to the ground. And only thing exceptional in US seem to be its ever increasing debt that we will leave to our children.
And no US is not some special nation that its soly duty in the world is to "defend" our allies, that are in many cases very rich, and have for years underinvested in their own defense, because you know "crazy" Americans are spending more than enough and will defend Europe in necessary.
I have lived in EU for years, they have much higher social spending for their own population, free college, free healthcare, paid family leave and many more. At same time, healthcare in US is in crisis, we have opioid crisis, we have looming college debt crisis and many others.
EU itself has larger population and GDP than USA, why do our tax dollars need to defend them? I have a feeling that EU will defend itself to the last $ of US tax payers.
I currently live and work in China, but I am under no illusion, US main geopolitical rival in 21st century will be China. And while we are in process of bankrupting our self for defense of very rich EU, that same EU has absolutly no interest in supporting us when it comes to China. If you think that Germany is addicted to import of Russian gas, it is 10 times worse when it comes to their exports to China, same goes to Italy, France and many other EU nations.
Trough complely insane foreign policy, that is focused on NGOs and "spreading" of democracy, we have lost Africa and Asia to China. Good African friend of mine put it best:
"US shows up and wants to teach us some woke nonsense that is simply not applicable to our country and then actively meddles in our internal affairs, at same time China comes and build all infrastructure we need and don't meddle in our internal politics, what do you think, who do we like more?". I know the answer, because China plays same game in my birth country. And China is winning long game.
What US needs now, is not to focus on external affairs, especially not on those on continent rich as Europe. US needs to fix itself, especially issue with our ever ballooning debt that is spiraling out of control. Then we should finally deal with mounting internal crisis (healthcare, college debt, opioid, mental health, social security and others).
World needs US, but if US continues to destroy itself as we have been doing in last 30 years, who will help US?
US needs to be exceptional of its own people, to be shiny beacon for immigrants that come here, we are not worlds police, last 30 years has show that being world police only costs treasure with zero benefits to people of America. We cannot fix the world.
Why the USA Government & its politicians don't help Americans first is continually baffling....yet today we see infant formula at the border for illegal migrants and none in the shops for Americans. We see jobs shifted abroad, we see no plans for infrastructure just lots of money allocated. Our leadership has no vision and has let the electorate down - that is BOTH parties.
CC I think Americans have let Americans down we don’t know what we want or need we had a President who was for American First - we apparently voted in a man with 8 million more votes in 2020 whose policies are America Last now why in Gods name would we have done that if that’s answered truthfully maybe then we will all have a better understand of where we stand as a nation 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Are you Serbian or Croatian?
Both :D
Well written🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Raz...sounds like you want Trumty back...nice
You’re right about the US being in very bad internal shape, but the EU and China have their own serious problems. China is the world’s largest importer of food and, due to industrialization and environmental pollution, is running out of water. And, because of it’s one-child policy (now dropped), the population will grow old before it grows rich. Then, too, a revolutionary government is always highly vulnerable to collapse, especially as its totalitarian policies are more and more on display. And African nations may find their dependency on Chinese infrastructure to be as double-edged as Germany’s dependence on Russian oil.
As for the EU, its situation is inherently tenuous, with “exit” movements having emerged in France, Italy, Greece, Poland, and Hungary. The vaccine rollout of Britain versus Brussels showed how the inflexible EU bureaucracy is incapable of acting quickly, even in the midst of a pandemic, and other internal policy tensions abound. The trend in the world is to get smaller, not to confederate. And, once the EU starts paying for its own defense, individual countries will find it increasingly difficult to support large welfare systems.
Focusing on social problems is not the answer, at least not as long as the US is the US. Bolstering support for the principles that guided the development of the world’s oldest democracy is. Unfortunately, the only principle that our ruling elites seem to want to follow is winning, whatever that means and whatever the cost.
Leslie...makes sense to me. I can remove my thoughts on the "green world", which sounds nice, which is pushed in order to show "how naughty We Is".
No mention, when promoting "green", about China reliance on COAL. They have plans for 120 J Bridger coal plants ( HUGE) along with their 600 coal plants in operation.
Oh yes, we knock em down and they build more...is that a joke?
Voters focus on the sham news...unreal.
That’s going to be my new descriptor: sham news!
your right about other countries having problems, the problem is they start to get desperate and if that happens lord help us.
All I’m trying to say is that, as Russia has shown, our foes aren’t as powerful as we fear. And, despite the current internal chaos, our inclination toward free expression, innovation, dynamism, and the like make us different, that is, better prepared to respond to and handle devastating events, both local and internationally, only to the extent we agree on and adhere to those policies.
Russia is not our foe, we have made it to be by following EU interests. Russia is on an different continent, we have no land border (small border in Bering sea), our real interests (our focus should be in Asia, their is in Europe) are not overlapping.
If we were smart, we would have made Russia our friend, because now we have pushed it to hands to China, and Russia has everything China needs, resources and food.
And as all proverb says "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and China knows this. We sadly are acting in interest of EU and not our own and that same EU has 0 interest in helping us with China, because the are intested only in their own interests
I agree.
I agree that Russia is not our foe. As I wrote on a comment thread from early in the hostilities, I think (hope) the US and Russia will one day be allies, particularly in containing China. But there’s a difference between caring about a country’s people and recognizing that it’s impossible to be friends with the elite that is currently in charge.
We shouldn't care who runs Russia, this is not our problem but of Russians themself. Honestly, we have been friends with worse elites than those in Russia, just look at our good friends in Saudi Arabia and rest of middle east.
Sadly, after what is happening now with US supporting Ukraine and getting even more fanatical about NATO (which is compelty irrelevant for US, and is literal money drain on us with no strategic importance for us) Russia has been been lost to China. China has plyed very smart, they have fixed all border issues with Russia and have no ongoing issues, and are now in process of building pipelines to get their oil and gas for cheap and fully over land without US to do anything.
You are correct that we should have tried to maintain good relations with Russia, but that does not change the fact that Putin is an autocrat, silences his own opposition and has presided over war crimes against innocent civilians. I understand realpolitick but there are limits to cozying up to dictators, notwithstanding the CIA's long-term embrace of them.
If the Obama Administration hadn't decided to play Cold War games in Ukraine in 2014, the current war crimes would probably not be happening. I'm not sure how anyone can think that the U.S. did not provoke Putin into behaving as if the Cold War had not ended. Not to diminish Putin's crimes, but there is plenty of blood to cover all of the hands involved.
We are in complete agreement on Obama's incompetence (and Biden's in provoking Putin while slow walking the defensive weapons Ukraine needed to defend itself). But Obama's stupidity doesn't justify war crimes such as targeting cities and civilians.
She did not say it justified war crimes, she said it was naive not to take our country's actions into account in the current war in Ukraine. At least that is how I read her comment. But, when you make bold sweeping statements about arming civilians are you not making civilians military targets?
As long as Bush and his war buddies are running around US sadly has no moral standing to preach about war crimes to anyone. Preaching Russia about war crimes, while Bush is free is just degrading our standing in the world. This is especially true while Assange is in prison.
Bush's invasion of Iraq was dumb, not criminal. The vast numbers of dead Iraqis were created by the Sunni insurgency and Sunni-Shia internecine violence. The occupation was poorly run but civilians were not targeted as they have been in the Ukraine invasion by Russia. There is no equivalence and you do yourself no favor by trying to create one.
I agree that China and EU have their own problems, but those are their problems.
We should be focused on fixing our own issues => fist deficit and ballooning debt, then healthcare & opioids, looming social security bankruptcy, then student debt.
I am not proposing isolationism, but reduced focus of our politicans on foreign affairs.
I agree with you about our internal situation. I don’t agree on government as the answer to the social problems you rightly bemoan—except for student debt, IMO.
I didnt say that the government is the answer to the social problems. I said that we have issues at home that need to be fixed ASAP and that fixing these problems will probably require investment at home. How social problems should be fixed is debatable. I myself am against excessive government involment
But a significant part of the problem.is the massive federal bureaucracy that only knows to take from the productive Americans and give to the unproductive both here and abroad. This is stymies the productive class.
This article (which is very good) is still only describing symptoms. So what's the underlying disease? My contention is careerism, which really got rolling with the Boomers in the Sixties (I am one), and widespread institutional corruption, which is the sine qua non of the Clinton School.
The article is about foreign policy, but the problem is found everywhere in United States culture. Our institutional rulers, our elites, arrived where they are because of the rise of careerism and credential-worship. Far from being a true meritocracy, which they love to crow about, it's just a spoils system where degrees (and where they came from) determine where you get to stand in the handout line. This has now reached the end-game, where everything is relative, nothing is objectively true, and the true Coin of the Realm is just nuclear-strength horseshit, served up as a cure for everything.
Our adversaries do not share our love of horseshit, they do not value it as we do--they see it for what it is: pathetic and worthless. They also understand that an enemy that has only crap for a tool is not a serious threat to anyone but themselves. They see the U.S as a nation devoid of timeless values, and led at every level by corrupt toadies, drunk on their own unearned privilege. Thus, they successfully press their advantages, on every front.
I wish I had a more hopeful post, but the idiots are fully in charge now--and the conclusions are inescapable.
I also thing the beuracritization of policy with little or no fall out for waste and incompetence. Think about our wars for the last 20 years (and the 9/11 failure) and how few civil servants if any were subject to consequences.
I have to agree that the idiots are firmly in charge - counterbalanced, though, by the fact that their ideologies are far from the majority opinion. Of every hundred Americans I encounter, not more than 5% subscribe to the woke, identity-politics, racist agenda of the elite. Is it enough? I don't know. Sure hope so. This place is worth saving.
This is the sort of comment I come here to read. Points of view I hadn't considered, written by someone with broad experience in the topic at hand, responded-to by other folks also with experience.
Side comment: I've really begun to notice how well Substack works. Never a problem with reading or posting; no interference - that I have seen, anyway - with commentary; yet somehow very little in the way of 'bots or obvious trolls. Doesn't blow up your email inbox, but has pertinent alerts. Anybody else notice that you can "heart" a post, but not downvote it? Some designers and programmers did their homework. Well done.
Agree totally Also everyone is nice A simple observation but much appreciated I learn so much from the comments in addition to Bari’s great reads
Agree! I was so happy to welcome Common Sense and abandon Facebook, Twitter, et al.
Thanks. You make solid points which are mostly consistent with my understanding. I am however, skeptical that isolationism to the level you suggest is wise.
Also, as I think you know, African nations are being unsustainably indebted by China. It is revealing that while more than half(?) in China live in poverty the CCP chooses to offshore low skilled labor. Can’t imagine why…
China is creating debt trap for many African nations, this is absolutely true.
But with our current foreign policy we are creating debt trap for our own children, our debt ist growing with over $1.3 trillion per year.
And a biggie is unfunded Social Security and related liabilities as well.
This is so true, and many people have no idea how big crisis is brewing with social security that is running out of money, and that current system is not sustainable and needs fixing now.
Agree completely. I've been to 40 nations on six continents. America is in sharp decline and I agree completely that we can NOT afford to be the world's policeman nor do American taxpayers have any obligation whatsoever to foot the bill to resolve border disputes in wealthy Europe.
I disagree Biden is distinctly a Obama lackey it fact Obama is the lead puppeteer pulling the strings and it’s becoming increasingly difficult to understand how we going to get out of this mess
lost another ball...ut oh.
When you keep losing the balls in the rough golf can become very expensive
I think she sounds like Obama on the 'decline' part - but like Trump in the 'no obligation whatsoever' in helping Europe.
Isolationism is a long way from Obama. He was in the business of being in everyone’s business just he refused to go all the way to war... or refused to go to war when he couldn’t just drone bomb the adversary into the ground. There is something to be said about getting your nose out of the worlds business until it’s in your interest.
Wasn't it Gov. Cuomo who said "America was never that great"?
Great points. Make America great again. America first. Bring Trump back, pronto.
De Santis will get in the way. Imo Trump won't be in a position to run for anything in two years. Time will tell.
The US foreign policy is a liberal foreign policy. Liberals cannot help but tie their meddling to their largesse with our tax dollars.
“American people are great people”
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This is racist nationalism.
And, also, ableist, sexist, and ist-ist.
No. It's not. "American people are the best people in the world" would be.
This is sarcasm
Hate to point out the obvious, but "American" isn't a race.
Supporting one's country and people (which in the US means everyone who wants to be here...and is multiracial...is not automatically nationalistic or racist. There is healthy forms of positive group affinity and negative forms. You appear to assume that there are only negative forms.
If the comment says "Kevin" assume the worst. Or, actually the best.
Btw - "everyone who wants to be here" is not the correct definition of who gets to be an American. That was provided by Theodore Roosevelt more than a century ago when he wrote: “In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
I agree. My comment should have been more specific.
This is exactly how I was raised. My grandparents came to America to be Americans. They assimilated. We have drifted to far from American patriotism and now wonder how we have become so fragmented.
No but putting ethic heritage above being American can and has. IMO.
Kevin is poking fun at the Left, who consider it all negative.
Thanks for the clarification. It can be hard to tell irony and sarcasm online.
Correct, Kevin should have closed it with a disclaimer like this: (that was sarcasm)
Kevin............
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