There is no joy in having seen this all coming. We have all been witnesses to so much folly and destruction in what made the world great and wasted so much time. How do you deprogram the generations who have wallowed in this nonsense and repair trust in journalism and government. I fear that these problems so easy to create will take decades to repair.
There is no joy in having seen this all coming. We have all been witnesses to so much folly and destruction in what made the world great and wasted so much time. How do you deprogram the generations who have wallowed in this nonsense and repair trust in journalism and government. I fear that these problems so easy to create will take decades to repair.
Change will never happen from the top down. It has to be a movement at the grassroots level.
YouтАЩre starting to see some of that тАЬmovementтАЭ with the school boards and city councils in smaller towns shifting to a more conservative, pro-family, position.
However, youтАЩre combating 50 years of leftist ideology in our school systems that have already indoctrinated millions of Americans, many of them in position of power.
But we must never give up so that means keeping these conversations going with those we think have bought into the progressive mindset. Some of my children bought into it especially after attending college. Now, when they see the potential match up for presidential candidates Trump and Biden and they are paying attention -- especially after the terror acts on Israel. I refused to sit by this election. Casting a vote is simply not enough any longer so I have personally gotten involved in Haley's grassroots coalition.
Yes, he was hamstrung and the EO didn't go anywhere and was immediately reversed by the Biden Administration, but (and it's a big but!) if there was a single moment in time when the pendulum began to swing back it was the moment Trump signed the EO.
Prior to the EO Tom Cotton was asked on cable news what could be done about the "culture issues" that were a top concerned of polled Republicans and his answer was: "I don't know."
The EO launched Christopher Rufo--Trump had seen him on Tucker Carlson and then collaborated with him on it. It put a name on what we were fighting and people like James Lindsay got traction making the intellectual ties to Marxism and the philosophy behind it. The EO showed the Right and the red pilled what a pathway forward looked like. It simplified what is a complex topic, gave us the verbiage to use, and pointed us in the right direction energizing thousands of activists.
Not a bad record for an EO that got "hamstrung" and didn't accomplish any of the things it was meant to accomplish...
No joy, some would say sad. Tribes have done this to each other since there were tribes. The difference is we have nukes and WiFi. The end of this earth age will be televised.
We have roughly 12 thousand years of some sort of human record. It is the same story, time after time.
"How do you deprogram the generations who have wallowed in this nonsense and repair trust in journalism and government."
Like with the Children of Israel with Moses in the desert, a whole generation must die off before things can change and they can enter the "Promised Land". They are too fundamentally poisoned at this point to be redeemed.
Yes, great metaphor. 40 years it took to purge that generation. And that was a pure experiment. There was no slippage. We have a much harder task on our hands.
I mean its all dependent on events ~ "harold macmillan" ~ doesn't it? If things get bad enough meaning Hamas starts shooting trans people in front of them well then either the problem solves itself or they wake up to what they have become. ie so brainwashed and deluded that they put two opposite things together and the bigger one ate the smaller one. Lions and goats can be friends..... lol!
Totally agree. Moses knew what he was dealing with when he had Hebrews wander for 40 years, so much so that he made the personal sacrifice of denying himself entry to the Promised Land in order to create the necessary mind-shift in the population. I struggle to imagine what modern day scenario might accomplish the same goal with this misaligned generation.
IтАЩm pretty sure it wasnтАЩt Moses choice, to not enter the Promised Land. Numbers 20:8, God speaking tells Moses to speak to the crag, that it may bring out water. But in Numbers 20:10-12, it says тАЬThen Moses and Aaron called the congregation together before the crag, and he said to them: тАЬHear, now, you rebels! Must we bring out water for you from this crag?тАЭ 11 With that Moses lifted his hand up and struck the crag twice with his rod, and much water began to pour out, and the assembly and their livestock began to drink. 12 God later said to Moses and Aaron: тАЬBecause you did not show faith in me and sanctify me before the eyes of the people of Israel, you will not bring this congregation into the land that I will give them.тАЭ In Moses saying, тАЬMust WE bring out water from this crag?тАЭ & STRIKING the rock twice with his staff, he fails to santify God. He did not follow what God said & he did not give the glory to God. Thus, Aaron was first to climb a mountain, be stripped of his outer garment & it was given to his son Eleazar. Then, Aaron dies. Moses is later, shown the Promised Land but he does not enter.
The disobedience was for Moses taking 'credit' for deriving water from rock, as well as striking the rock with staff rather than 'speaking' to rock as Yahweh had instructed:
You're so welcome. Each generation has much to learn and re-learn from the OT (or more properly the Hebrew Bible or 'Tanakh'). It is the source of all goodness and wisdom.
So funny you should say that. At BSF last week we were talking about the Old Testament and the relevance it has to our world today. Who would have thought and what interesting stories.
Exactly. And this misinformed generation will have children and have already become teachers.
I work in education. If you want any of this to really change, please get involved in your schools, your school boards. I cannot stress this enough. Schools truly are moving forward with all the progressive wants. Even in small town America where I am. Superintendents sign off with preferred pronouns, equity training is king, and white fragility is taught to staff. This is not fear mongering. It is real. Even at my grade level (PreK).
And for God's sake, limit what your child does on smart devices.
If not, what will come will be far worse. The writing is on the wall.
IтАЩm not as pessimistic as you are. Note the response of the Harvard groups when a lucrative employment offer was rescinded. Everyone suddenly had identity crises. They didnтАЩt really feel that way, or they hadnтАЩt read the statement carefully, or their organization hadnтАЩt sought their opinion before signing it, orтАж..
Bottom line: turn on the lightsтАФaka what we call тАЬrealityтАЭтАФand the roaches scurry. With luck, the lights will remain on long enough for substantial change to happen. Those changes will have to led by persuasive voices calling out reality deniers. At least, if this article really reflects the current situation, an increasing fraction of people are accepting reality, ugly as it is.
I agree but isnтАЩt that just the human condition? The cockroaches go into hiding and then they come back. ItтАЩs been that way since the beginning and itтАЩll never end.
In the past, wars tended to destroy the majority of the cockroaches, leaving the few survivors to crawl off and hope they could breed their ideas before they died.
Today, cockroach nests are an accepted fixture of our society, so the cockroaches are never really in danger at all.
тАЬтАжwhen a lucrative employment offer was rescinded.тАЭ
lol You do realize the Fed has printed $7 trillion over the past decade? Any and all rational human incentives can be negated by morons with good тАЬintentionsтАЭ.
There is no joy in having seen this all coming. We have all been witnesses to so much folly and destruction in what made the world great and wasted so much time. How do you deprogram the generations who have wallowed in this nonsense and repair trust in journalism and government. I fear that these problems so easy to create will take decades to repair.
Maybe Hillary can help with the deprogramming
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ROFL!!!
Change will never happen from the top down. It has to be a movement at the grassroots level.
YouтАЩre starting to see some of that тАЬmovementтАЭ with the school boards and city councils in smaller towns shifting to a more conservative, pro-family, position.
However, youтАЩre combating 50 years of leftist ideology in our school systems that have already indoctrinated millions of Americans, many of them in position of power.
My fear is, is it too little, too late.
But we must never give up so that means keeping these conversations going with those we think have bought into the progressive mindset. Some of my children bought into it especially after attending college. Now, when they see the potential match up for presidential candidates Trump and Biden and they are paying attention -- especially after the terror acts on Israel. I refused to sit by this election. Casting a vote is simply not enough any longer so I have personally gotten involved in Haley's grassroots coalition.
I just cannot believe that this thread devolved into Trump! It isn't about TRUMP! It's about the future of the nation of ISRAEL!!!
I skip a lot of the comments here because every discussion on this site devolves into a Trump back-and-forth!
Agree
Trump exists because of a grassroots movement...
He signed an executive order meant to expunge DEI from the federal government, but mean tweets and he's socially icky.
тАЬSocially ickyтАЭ and тАЬmean tweetsтАЭ? Quite immature language for such a serious subject.
Pedantry
Quite immature thinking to justify a vote in a serious election.
Susan's point is that that Trump's mean tweets and rather irritating social shortcomings are in the big picture of things not serious at all.
Yes, he did. However, he was quickly overwhelmed (and hamstrung), by the indoctrinated.
Yes, he was hamstrung and the EO didn't go anywhere and was immediately reversed by the Biden Administration, but (and it's a big but!) if there was a single moment in time when the pendulum began to swing back it was the moment Trump signed the EO.
Prior to the EO Tom Cotton was asked on cable news what could be done about the "culture issues" that were a top concerned of polled Republicans and his answer was: "I don't know."
The EO launched Christopher Rufo--Trump had seen him on Tucker Carlson and then collaborated with him on it. It put a name on what we were fighting and people like James Lindsay got traction making the intellectual ties to Marxism and the philosophy behind it. The EO showed the Right and the red pilled what a pathway forward looked like. It simplified what is a complex topic, gave us the verbiage to use, and pointed us in the right direction energizing thousands of activists.
Not a bad record for an EO that got "hamstrung" and didn't accomplish any of the things it was meant to accomplish...
More like 100 years of leftist ideology in academia and our schools.
No joy, some would say sad. Tribes have done this to each other since there were tribes. The difference is we have nukes and WiFi. The end of this earth age will be televised.
We have roughly 12 thousand years of some sort of human record. It is the same story, time after time.
And yet the Leftists think they can change human nature. While they become just another hateful tribe.
Celia M - how'd you get so wise?!
Suffering. That's the usual way.
"How do you deprogram the generations who have wallowed in this nonsense and repair trust in journalism and government."
Like with the Children of Israel with Moses in the desert, a whole generation must die off before things can change and they can enter the "Promised Land". They are too fundamentally poisoned at this point to be redeemed.
Yes, great metaphor. 40 years it took to purge that generation. And that was a pure experiment. There was no slippage. We have a much harder task on our hands.
Time to ridicule and laugh at their stupidity. No more going along with their nonsense hitch doesnтАЩt stand the slightest scrutiny.
Some will see the light, they will be angry at being lied to for so long...creating a whole new problem!
I mean its all dependent on events ~ "harold macmillan" ~ doesn't it? If things get bad enough meaning Hamas starts shooting trans people in front of them well then either the problem solves itself or they wake up to what they have become. ie so brainwashed and deluded that they put two opposite things together and the bigger one ate the smaller one. Lions and goats can be friends..... lol!
Unfortunately, we are unlikely to be allowed 40 years to correct things.
Totally agree. Moses knew what he was dealing with when he had Hebrews wander for 40 years, so much so that he made the personal sacrifice of denying himself entry to the Promised Land in order to create the necessary mind-shift in the population. I struggle to imagine what modern day scenario might accomplish the same goal with this misaligned generation.
IтАЩm pretty sure it wasnтАЩt Moses choice, to not enter the Promised Land. Numbers 20:8, God speaking tells Moses to speak to the crag, that it may bring out water. But in Numbers 20:10-12, it says тАЬThen Moses and Aaron called the congregation together before the crag, and he said to them: тАЬHear, now, you rebels! Must we bring out water for you from this crag?тАЭ 11 With that Moses lifted his hand up and struck the crag twice with his rod, and much water began to pour out, and the assembly and their livestock began to drink. 12 God later said to Moses and Aaron: тАЬBecause you did not show faith in me and sanctify me before the eyes of the people of Israel, you will not bring this congregation into the land that I will give them.тАЭ In Moses saying, тАЬMust WE bring out water from this crag?тАЭ & STRIKING the rock twice with his staff, he fails to santify God. He did not follow what God said & he did not give the glory to God. Thus, Aaron was first to climb a mountain, be stripped of his outer garment & it was given to his son Eleazar. Then, Aaron dies. Moses is later, shown the Promised Land but he does not enter.
Correct.
I cannot even begin to wrap my head around a modern day purge of a poisoned population.
A daunting task indeed.
Moses didnтАЩt do that (deny himself entry to the Promised Land) - the Lord denied him.
Did Moses do this or was it God?
It was God. Yahweh showed Moses the Promised Land (Deuteronomy 34:4-5) but denied him entry:
https://www.bibleref.com/Deuteronomy/34/Deuteronomy-34-4.html
Numbers 20:12 describes the no-entry as punishment for Moses' pride & disobedience:
https://www.bibleref.com/Numbers/20/Numbers-20-12.html
The disobedience was for Moses taking 'credit' for deriving water from rock, as well as striking the rock with staff rather than 'speaking' to rock as Yahweh had instructed:
https://www.bibleref.com/Numbers/20/Numbers-20-8.html
https://www.bibleref.com/Numbers/20/Numbers-20-10.html
https://www.bibleref.com/Numbers/20/Numbers-20-11.html
To Moses' credit he did not complain about his punishment from the Lord and continued to lead Israel and honor God.
Yes. Really appreciate the Bible references. Thank you
You're so welcome. Each generation has much to learn and re-learn from the OT (or more properly the Hebrew Bible or 'Tanakh'). It is the source of all goodness and wisdom.
So funny you should say that. At BSF last week we were talking about the Old Testament and the relevance it has to our world today. Who would have thought and what interesting stories.
Here are two books on OT I'm currently reading that you may also find helpful and/or interesting:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9612357-is-god-a-moral-monster
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21548888-the-skeletons-in-god-s-closet
These texts bringing richer context to violence in the OT
Wow! Thank you so much! They look thought provoking. Appreciate it.
Exactly. And this misinformed generation will have children and have already become teachers.
I work in education. If you want any of this to really change, please get involved in your schools, your school boards. I cannot stress this enough. Schools truly are moving forward with all the progressive wants. Even in small town America where I am. Superintendents sign off with preferred pronouns, equity training is king, and white fragility is taught to staff. This is not fear mongering. It is real. Even at my grade level (PreK).
And for God's sake, limit what your child does on smart devices.
If not, what will come will be far worse. The writing is on the wall.
Limit what your child does on smart devices. Seemingly innocent visuals show up on my grandaughter's device and becomes very inappropriate.
I'm researching this in the context of agriculture and food supply.... It's a scenario https://www.wsj.com/science/environment/solar-storm-early-warning-system-b6324524
40 years was not a random number.
Our country will not survive the process.
I am an eternal optimist.
But I do see how difficult this challenge can be.
Very scary indeed.
I feel like I should be one of those cockroaches and just hide.
My fear as well.
IтАЩm not as pessimistic as you are. Note the response of the Harvard groups when a lucrative employment offer was rescinded. Everyone suddenly had identity crises. They didnтАЩt really feel that way, or they hadnтАЩt read the statement carefully, or their organization hadnтАЩt sought their opinion before signing it, orтАж..
Bottom line: turn on the lightsтАФaka what we call тАЬrealityтАЭтАФand the roaches scurry. With luck, the lights will remain on long enough for substantial change to happen. Those changes will have to led by persuasive voices calling out reality deniers. At least, if this article really reflects the current situation, an increasing fraction of people are accepting reality, ugly as it is.
First need to outlaw the masks
No kidding.
Turning on the lights doesn't get rid of the roaches; it just causes them to go into hiding.
I agree but isnтАЩt that just the human condition? The cockroaches go into hiding and then they come back. ItтАЩs been that way since the beginning and itтАЩll never end.
In the past, wars tended to destroy the majority of the cockroaches, leaving the few survivors to crawl off and hope they could breed their ideas before they died.
Today, cockroach nests are an accepted fixture of our society, so the cockroaches are never really in danger at all.
The problem with metaphors is how easily they can be refuted, Celia.
Good to see you remain on Substack.
тАЬтАжwhen a lucrative employment offer was rescinded.тАЭ
lol You do realize the Fed has printed $7 trillion over the past decade? Any and all rational human incentives can be negated by morons with good тАЬintentionsтАЭ.
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