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Diamond Boy's avatar

I blame the left, it evolved (devolved) into a self loathing critique of power differentials such that America’s success was the problem: you need a lot of education to be this stupid.

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Skinny's avatar

And believe me the left is sooo educated that’s how stupid they are

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JD Free's avatar

The more out of line with reality a belief is, the more "education" is required to believe it.

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Zoya's avatar

I don't know if education as properly understood is the problem. the left isn't educated in any real sense: no history, no languages, no math, no science (none). The left does tend to be credentialed, and it's not cheap: hundreds of thousands paid for various diplomas with very little actual education behind them.

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Diamond Boy's avatar

Not to be cruel,but, that is the very quintessence of the university professor: real world obtuse.

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David11235's avatar

With all due respect, I blame non-extremists. "The Left" and "The Right" are meaningless labels. Meaningless, but not useless. These labels are used to frame complex issues in a binary this or that. They're used to divide people into us against them. Extremists are probably the only group of people properly labeled this way, but in a properly balanced system, they should amount to fewer than 10% (5% per side) of the population.

It's on the rest of us to be rational and understand issues are far more complex than a binary solution can help. Too many of us haven't bothered because we're too focused on our personal issues. Too many of us haven't bothered to learn about candidates and simply voted by party. Too many of us haven't looked deep inside ourselves to know where on the political spectrum we actually sit. "My family has always voted <pick your party>, so I am too."

Too much apathy, too much identity politics, not enough care by enough people to understand the actual bills being voted on and who the people are who are being elected.

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PH's avatar

Also a problem of not enough decent, "normal" people who can or will or have the means to run for office. I do research my candidates and do not just vote party, but the choices these days suck. Trump v Biden pretty much sums it up. It was a choice the lesser of two evils and I'm still not sure I picked the "right" one.

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Skinny's avatar

You clearly picked the wrong one make sure come 2024 you pick the right one

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Diamond Boy's avatar

Well said

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LA conservative's avatar

I've always thought that if voters were presented with actual "policy", they would be sensible and pragmatic in their voting. But once a party label is applied, they will absolutely change their vote if it goes against their partys' dogma. I've presented "School Choice" ideas to Democrats-and they love it, until they find out it's opposed by the Democrat party (mainly because the Teachers' Union is their #1 campaign donor).

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jt's avatar

Yeah, teacher's unions one-a the biggest problems the country faces. Independents may go for it. This morning granted, from a Conservative, if You're interested: https://wrongspeak.net/understanding-school-choice-and-its-impact-on-children/

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jt's avatar

You describe how I've been all my life there, David. And Your diagnosis is 100% correct.

I'm trying to do better, but I'm retired and have the time.

Nowadays, people waste so much time their social media ADDICTION, that they don't have the interest or attention span to do what You say. Wish it were otherwise, but it isn't.

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Brian Katz's avatar

It starts and ends with utopia.

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LA conservative's avatar

You are so right! In addition, the self-righteous lefties putting blinders on when it comes to the utter corruption of their party leaders.

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EricStoner's avatar

Both parties are complicit so we have a circular blackmail situation of mutually assure destruction should anyone attempt to unravel this mess. Hence, the all out attack on PDJT.

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Anthony's avatar

Trump was not in the circle and his presence disrupted everything.

They responded with an unprecedented campaign of hate and lies, nonstop for years.

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EricStoner's avatar

Yep. Orange Man Bad! Why, be specific? Well, Orange Man Bad! It’s boring if not so dangerous.

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jt's avatar

Yeah, but I'm lame and dunno PDJT. Sheesh on me!

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Diamond Boy's avatar

They are corrupt

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jt's avatar

Hey! You know I'll play devils advocate, right sir?

I blame the right, because they haven't figured out the way outta this mess. The Way forward and up. A positive message needed, like we read.

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JD Free's avatar

Few things are so quintessentially left-wing as to blame the side that "isn't fixing it" rather than blaming the side that is causing the problem.

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jt's avatar

Naw. You got it pegged all wrong on so many fronts it's hard to know where to start.

POLITICIANS are causing the problems, not Dems and Repubs. Or didn't You know that?

Elections going to the guy with the biggest DONORS are the problem. Dems and Repubs play the same game.

Finally, I'll just ask if You know this: Which is psychologically easier to do? Be AGAINST something or to be for something. Former. Easier to see the DIFFERENCES between people or to see the common ground? Former.

Me? Leftist? Read a few of what I've written before You go off half-cocked, is my advice.

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RN retired's avatar

I never vote for…I vote against…

No matter which party endorsed it or commenced it

I’m against it

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EricStoner's avatar

Because they are just as corrupt as the left.

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Madjack's avatar

Make America great again.

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Diamond Boy's avatar

The subtext of that slogan is: fuck liberals in the ass again. Yes?

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jt's avatar

Yeah. I can see it, but only in part. For America to be great again, we'd hafta keep up with China, right? Didn't happen. Mebbe won't happen. Mebbe CAN'T happen. Dunno.

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Madjack's avatar

It might help if we made an effort to stop them from stealing our tech and infiltrating our govt.

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Terry's avatar

too late. They have Ph.D. scientists who are as smart as ours. They can read all the same scientific papers and copy anything. Now it's a matter of who has a better educated populace that is emphasizing science and mathematics and technology in their school system (guess who that is).

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jt's avatar

$300 to $600 B. tech stolen. China just doesn't play by the same rules.

Biden just dismantled group that was working on counter-espionage. Didn't wanna make Asian-Americans feel bad. Asian-Americans probably be one-a first to wanna get the Chinese spies out, right?

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Diamond Boy's avatar

The way to keep up with China may be to simply withdraw from the world and focus on your own problems

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jt's avatar

I'd agree with the latter. But I don't believe it's POSSIBLE (let alone good idea) to withdraw from the world.

You'd see a new world order if the EU could get their act together. But, either Way, if the US and EU coordinate on things like Robotics and AI? IIRC, there's some kind-a joint technical cooperation between the US and France? Came out lately, but can't remember it all.

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jt's avatar

Are You kidding? You read me THAT wrong?

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Madjack's avatar

Nothing with Biden. So much destruction in one year. We have three more years of this corrupt doddering fool

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jt's avatar

Hm. Heart didn't work. TY.

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Diamond Boy's avatar

I’m cool with that

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Skeptical but Optimistic's avatar

There you go. The perfect road map.

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Poe's avatar

Term Limits for sure ,,,,,,,need proof Look at Federal indictment of Illinois longest serving speaker 37 years of the House Mike Madigan ...Feds say "running a Criminal enterprise "

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EricStoner's avatar

My only argument against term limits is the permanent breauarcy runs the show and they are not term limited. Politicians come and go but the bureaucrats with civil service and union protection are here to stay. By the time a first term congress critter starts to slightly understand the complexities of how it all works, we want to term limit them? Not saying it shouldn't happen, just saying its another panacea.

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Douglas Proudfoot's avatar

The permanent bureaucracy can be intimidated.

The next Republican president should remember the DOJ, FBI, DOD and the Intelligence Community are all tools of the Democrats. He/she should fire everybody that the president can in these agencies on day one. Temporary caretakers can be appointed without Senate confirmation to fill crucial slots.

Security clearances are a privelege, not a right. They are ultimately controled by the president as Commander in Chief. The president can and should use clearance revocation as a tool against an entrenched leftist bureaucracy. The president should immedately suspend the security clearance of anybody even remotely suspected of leaking to the press, civil service or not.

As the head of the executive branch, the president can reassign bureaucrats. The president should reassign anybody who doesn't follow legal orders. If the reassigned fight it, remove their duties, then string out the process as long as possible.

A Republican Congress should use reconciliation bills to cut federal head count in the DOJ, FBI, DOD and analysis divisions of the intelligence services. The bill can allow the president to allocate the personnel cuts where he sees fit, and not according to seniority. Reconciliation can also be used to make it easier to fire civil servants for insubordination.

Agencies that are part of any "Resistance" need to downsize.

Only the shock and awe of terminations will bring the leftist bureaucracy to heel.

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EricStoner's avatar

Capitol Protest - Federal Employees Zoom Call Re: Breaking Windows Plans;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrPXiz4m7nk&t=11s

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EricStoner's avatar

Well said. Also, the public employee unions are a very important part of the Democrat money laundering machine. You know, much like the Ukraines of the world? Neither leaderships give a hoot about their members, citizens.

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LA conservative's avatar

I fully agree. I think if we can’t do those things in a national level, then individual states need to take the lead. Then the 70% that Aaron voted below should relocate to the states doing the right things.

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Terry's avatar

We tried that. He got impeached and cheated out of office, and his supporters were silenced and marginalized.

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RN retired's avatar

“And the politicians say, more taxes will solve everything! And the band plays on”~The Temptations~

“So I’ll get down on my knees and pray, we don’t get fooled again”

~The Who~

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Terry's avatar

I don't hate Putin at all. Like Trump, I regard him as patriotically defending his country and his civilization. He is doing probably what is necessary to keep Russia from crumbling.

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Aaron's avatar

The 70% of us in the middle need to politely demand our countries back.

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EM's avatar

or not so politely

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jt's avatar

See? I don't disagree with ANY-a what You "said," Jahbulon.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

But you needed him to say it. You are so lost.

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jt's avatar

Naw. I've BEEN saying this on this very same forum. Your one-a the many who don't read what I write, apparently, Lynne.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I do not read Inciteful.Experiences. But I gathered from later comments I likely misinterpreted you. This article did not sit well with me so I am perhaps less thoughtful today.

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jt's avatar

Never wrote post one on my pub.

And, naw. I just saw Your reply to the leftist above. You're plenty good thoughtful.

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