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Daniel Rosenblatt's avatar

I’m an ICU doctor and I can tell you it’s not over. Our unit is packed with Covid patients on ventilators and a lot of them are dying. So before you go spouting all this unfounded optimism and cast people who are cautious as hypochondriacs get the facts right. If you’re not in the midst of it, you have no idea what’s going on and no right to comment.

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David Burse's avatar

"If you’re not in the midst of it, you have no idea what’s going on and no right to comment."

This is America. We have every right to comment (except on You Tube) and pride ourselves in not knowing what we are talking about. "Often wrong, seldom in doubt" is our motto. And spouting is the new national past time. See, e.g., Twitter. A fine example of a bunch of howler monkeys flinging poo at each other.

On Topic: We attended a minor league hockey game last night in a no-mandate state. The rink didn't have much seating, and it was standing room only with hundreds of people packed shoulder to shoulder. A mask here or there, but I'd estimate less than 5% wearing them, and then they were just pieces of cloth. All and all a bunch unfounded optimists swilling $5 beers.

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Brilliantly Oblivious's avatar

Unfortunately, the often wrong, seldom in doubt crosses ideological bounds. To channel Jordan Peterson (no, I don't agree with everything he says), humans are complex beings. Their problems are complex as are the solutions. And sometimes, the "solution" is the choice of the less bad thing.

But we stick with our prior and listen to our bubble-mates.

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David Burse's avatar

Of course. The good doctor is telling Nellie she doesn't know what she's talking about. Is like a small business owner watch a BLM crown burn his business to the ground, with CNN announcing its a peaceful protest. The difference is that Nellie believes what she says, whereas CNN are lying propaganda.

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Thomas M Gregg's avatar

What are the actual numbers?

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Question, how many of those patients are vaxxed? How many have other comorbidities? Before you condemn others, please relate fully and not just “packed”.

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Just me's avatar

Would the people with comorbidities still be alive if they had not contracted Covid 19?

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GR's avatar

Question - is this similar to a flu hospital situation from years past? From what I understand flu season was brutal every year!

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Just me's avatar

The Death toll from the flu season average between 20,000 to 60,000 per year. The toll from Covid 19 is 6+ times more!

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GR's avatar

I am sorry, but that was not the question. Doctor was talking about sick people on ventilators in ICU right now, with this Covid variant. It is a legitimate comparison with ICU + ventilators during to top flu seasons...

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Brilliantly Oblivious's avatar

Thank you for the work you are doing. Doctors, nurses and all others working in the ICU and patient care have been doing the Lord's work with little sleep and much anxiety.

To allay concern among the fully vaxxed- are their patients in the ICU who are fully vaxxed who are not also immuno-compromised?

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