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Neil Kellen's avatar

"What does it mean that many hardcore Trumpists might now see their standard-bearer as a lib?"

Or the question could be

"What does it mean when many hardcore NeverTrumpers might now see their "most-hated equivalent of Hitler-worst man in the history of the world" as one of them?"

Clearly, libs don't understand Trump, and his supporters, because they tend to see people through a dichotomy instead of a kaleidoscope (of course their are exceptions...). Normally, libs would always precede any Trump statement with "Trump states, without evidence...". I'm not certain why that didn't happen here, but I think I know why.

Anyway, Trump is simplifying things, to make a general point - as he almost always does, because many people have died even though, and because, they have been vaccinated: especially young children (yes, I am using the "OMG save the children!" trope because that's how you do it these days - no one can argue with it). Personally, I know at least two people who died within two weeks of their jab. And long-term afflictions (myocarditis is especially cruel because it takes down young people in their prime) are becoming clear and that death toll will take years to fully count.

I'm also sure that many people have not died because they have been vaccinated.

I also know that natural immunity is much better than vaccine-based immunity and doesn't require a "vaccination of the month" subscription program.

I also conclude, with evidence but not definitive evidence, that more people could be saved with early treatment with cheap drugs currently available and approved for use in humans (yes, HCQ and Ivermectin are very effective) than are probably saved by the vaccine. But the former does not enrich the elites, and one undeniable fact of this pandemic is that $3.6T of wealth has been transferred from the majority to the elites. That is not an accident. Say whatever you want about Bill Gates, but he is one genius mfer.

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Parker Smith's avatar

"What does it mean that many hardcore Trumpists might now see their standard-bearer as a lib?" What it means is that, perhaps, THEY ARE NOT A CULT. Perhaps they are intelligent enough to weigh the available evidence and then agree or disagree accordingly.

So one day it's "ALL TRUMP PEOPLE ARE CULT MEMBERS WHO WOULD NEVER QUESTION THEIR DEAR LEADER." And now it is "TRUMP PEOPLE THINK HE'S A LIBTARD." That's quite a leap.

DJT naturally wants to maintain the glory of one of his signature accomplishments, the production, testing and distribution of a vaccine within a year, during a pandemic. Totally understandable. But clearly the vaccines don't work in the way we expected. For example, if you are vaccinated for polio, you DON'T GET POLIO.

Add to that, virtually every Democrat leader is on video declaring that they wouldn't take "the Trump vaccine" until they suddenly took power and turned on a dime.

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Kevin Durant?'s avatar

Five years after the polio vaccine came out, they were having social events with celebrities called ‘The Salk Hop’ (get it) to encourage vaccination.

Nobody proposed barring the unvaccinated from society because there were fewer emboldened psychopaths back then.

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Bruce Miller's avatar

Great post "Kevin." "[F]ewer emboldened psychopaths......" Says it all about society's ills today.

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james p mc grenra's avatar

Neil...nice knack, "Trump states, without evidence" always proceeds...so funny and correcto.

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Kevin Durant?'s avatar

My favorite is the more sneaky

“Trump’s own…..”

in reference to a bureaucrat/bureaucracy attacking Trump. Intended to make it sound like the attack is valid because it’s coming from an ally.

As if anyone in Washington DC, even most of Trump’s appointments, picked from a short list of acceptable statists, could be considered “Trump’s own….”

“Trump’s own EPA rebukes his claim that global warming…..”

These people are so manipulative and dishonest. It sickens me daily.

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