Then you should never miss a chance to vote for building more free-market housing, and candidates that support it. Housing prices are almost entirely determined by supply vs demand
The problem the housing market has always had is that it's more profitable to build luxury homes than starter homes. You can mark up the price more on higher-end properties, and enjoy a fatter margin.
The free market, left to its own devices, won't build much of anything in poor neighbourhoods, unless of course you count gentrification. Which is why government often has to step in and fill the vaccum with "low income housing projects"
I never said they were "dream locations", just that the only reason the NYCHA is involved in the first place is developers won't build in those neighbourhoods. More money to be made elsewhere.
What is "free market housing," Gordon? Not snarking here, I'd like to know what you consider free-market housing. No zoning or inspections? No building codes? Build as many units as you can into the smallest possible space and provide no parking? I'm interested in how the free market could solve the housing crisis.
You have to remove the criminal element first. Nothing will ever work if you donтАЩt eliminate the psychopaths from the equation.
Also, your question implies that the only way to reduce obstacles created by the government is to move directly to тАЬno building codesтАЭ.
That is a straw man. We are 50,000 light years away from zero regulation. We could trim and refine the multitude of bureaucratic regimes from now until eternity and never approach the anarchic state you are proposing as the only alternative to unnecessarily burdensome technocratic insanity.
What criminal element do you mean? What psychopaths? Not sure what you mean by this.
I think we agree on the rest! Glad to hear you say that about "no building codes." I agree--zero regulations would be a disaster. I'd happily keep most or all of the current codes and zoning regs in exchange for one-stop, simple, and uber-efficient ways to get a home built. The number of hoops developers (and homeowners like me) have to jump through to get anything done is staggering, and every hoop has a million lawyers, forms, and middle managers attached.
Building a house or replacing a driveway should be as simple as filling out one form on a website, hitting SEND, getting approval within two weeks, and getting to work. All codes and inspections can still apply, just eliminate the lag times.
My HOA decided to replace a number of concrete driveways. We hired a contractor, who immediately applied for city permits. That was in June. Permits were approved and driveways poured in . . . November.
Corporations don't outrage me, for the same reason that bear attacks don't outrage me: ripping into things tooth and claw in order to eat is their nature. Bears eat meat. Corporations eat money. If people get in the way of either, they become food.
My problem is not with corporations trying to get away with murder. It's with politicians who happily pocket their bribes to look the other way. We hire politicians and regulators to curb capitalism's excesses and thus protect American life. When they don't do that, the bears eat everyone.
тАЬIt's with politicians who happily pocket their bribes to look the other way.тАЭ
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The federal budget is $5 trillion. Name an example of this bribery and list the costs associated.
You frankly have a childish view of the world. ItтАЩs like you think people with top hats and monocles are secretly running the government.
This is where antisemitism comes from. Your mindset is fertile ground for antisemitism. There isnтАЩt a mysterious cabal controlling everything. US citizens leech shitloads of benefits. Social Security etc etc etc. ThatтАЩs where the money goes. ItтАЩs documented. You can look at it.
REAL home prices are mostly determined by land value. Inflation accounts for more than HALF of the nominal increase in home prices in the U.S. over the last century.
Interesting point. I lived in Japan for two years courtesy of the US Navy and was struck that most of the neighborhoods felt lower middle class to poor but THEY WERE SAFE. The recent brilliant тАЬDEFUND THE POLICEтАЭ left wing movement did great harm to the poor
Yes, the "Defund" campaign did great harm to the poor--and everyone else. Carjackers don't care who you are, they just want your car, and when they no longer fear running into a cop, they steal more cars.
Yes, we need social workers and drug counselors and an overhaul of the criminal justice prison industrial complex. What we do NOT need are fewer cops on the beat and get out of jail free cards issued to violent criminals as is the case in Chicago and San Francisco.
Remember what Sam Kinnison said about famine and living in the desert? Move out of that leftist "paradise." Yes its the groceries and the gasoline and the cost of heating and cooling a home. For most people who live in the sane zones of our nation.
Problem with the "move somewhere else" concept is most of the jobs are in cities, as are most medical facilities, social networking, grocery stores, and other needs of life. You have to drive a car, because there is no other way to get around in the boonies. You can't be old or crippled, because there are no accommodations. Etc.
Homes surely cost less in rural Nebraska than central Manhattan, but there is a severe tradeoff for making that move.
You paint with an enormously broad brush. There are nice towns and smaller cities across our country that have social services and good transportation systems. SF and NYC are renowned for obscenely high rents. (See how nice I'm being on Christmas Eve, no less?)/
For $19.95 you can load all your shit into a U-Haul van and go anywhere you want.
If you're living in a motel, you probably don't have much more than fits in the trunk of an Uber anyhow.
If you're living in a motel in The TenderloinтАФwith babiesтАФyou've probably burned through all you support bridges, and the person most responsible for your situation is looking at you out of the mirror.
Penny you can't just keep making excuses for everyone. Yes people face challenges - all sorts of them - but at some point we have to insist on good decisions and personal responsibility. As far as your rant about third-world hell holes...... The one thing that has separated us from them is a 250 year history of the rule of law and fealty to our Constitution. It works.
Kinnison was funny. Your tedious lectures are boring.
Actually, Penny said "please offer some compassion to helpless children", and your response was that the children should just take "personal responsibility" and that we should "insist on good decisions".
So yeah, I hit the bullseye and you think 6-month olds born into poverty should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Penny was addressing the children of single moms, so when you say the answer is personal responsibility, then yes, you are saying helpless children needed to take personal responsibility. Either that, or you missed that Penny was talking about the kids, in which case your reading comp is dogshit.
btw, kids these days spell it "AcKsHuALLY", so actually I kept it old school.
Then you should never miss a chance to vote for building more free-market housing, and candidates that support it. Housing prices are almost entirely determined by supply vs demand
The problem the housing market has always had is that it's more profitable to build luxury homes than starter homes. You can mark up the price more on higher-end properties, and enjoy a fatter margin.
The free market, left to its own devices, won't build much of anything in poor neighbourhoods, unless of course you count gentrification. Which is why government often has to step in and fill the vaccum with "low income housing projects"
"Which is why government often has to step in and fill the vaccum with "low income housing projects""
I invite you to spend a few nights in one of the dream locations run by the NYC Housing Authority.
I never said they were "dream locations", just that the only reason the NYCHA is involved in the first place is developers won't build in those neighbourhoods. More money to be made elsewhere.
What is "free market housing," Gordon? Not snarking here, I'd like to know what you consider free-market housing. No zoning or inspections? No building codes? Build as many units as you can into the smallest possible space and provide no parking? I'm interested in how the free market could solve the housing crisis.
You have to remove the criminal element first. Nothing will ever work if you donтАЩt eliminate the psychopaths from the equation.
Also, your question implies that the only way to reduce obstacles created by the government is to move directly to тАЬno building codesтАЭ.
That is a straw man. We are 50,000 light years away from zero regulation. We could trim and refine the multitude of bureaucratic regimes from now until eternity and never approach the anarchic state you are proposing as the only alternative to unnecessarily burdensome technocratic insanity.
What criminal element do you mean? What psychopaths? Not sure what you mean by this.
I think we agree on the rest! Glad to hear you say that about "no building codes." I agree--zero regulations would be a disaster. I'd happily keep most or all of the current codes and zoning regs in exchange for one-stop, simple, and uber-efficient ways to get a home built. The number of hoops developers (and homeowners like me) have to jump through to get anything done is staggering, and every hoop has a million lawyers, forms, and middle managers attached.
Building a house or replacing a driveway should be as simple as filling out one form on a website, hitting SEND, getting approval within two weeks, and getting to work. All codes and inspections can still apply, just eliminate the lag times.
My HOA decided to replace a number of concrete driveways. We hired a contractor, who immediately applied for city permits. That was in June. Permits were approved and driveways poured in . . . November.
There is no excuse for that.
Please think about the driveway incident next time you are outraged about evil corporations lobbying the government.
Try to imagine, without dying of exhaustion, what it takes to build a tanker-accessible natural gas terminal, for example.
Or a nuclear plant . . .
Corporations don't outrage me, for the same reason that bear attacks don't outrage me: ripping into things tooth and claw in order to eat is their nature. Bears eat meat. Corporations eat money. If people get in the way of either, they become food.
My problem is not with corporations trying to get away with murder. It's with politicians who happily pocket their bribes to look the other way. We hire politicians and regulators to curb capitalism's excesses and thus protect American life. When they don't do that, the bears eat everyone.
тАЬIt's with politicians who happily pocket their bribes to look the other way.тАЭ
тАФтАФтАФтАФтАФтАФтАФтАФтАФтАФтАФтАФтАФ-
The federal budget is $5 trillion. Name an example of this bribery and list the costs associated.
You frankly have a childish view of the world. ItтАЩs like you think people with top hats and monocles are secretly running the government.
This is where antisemitism comes from. Your mindset is fertile ground for antisemitism. There isnтАЩt a mysterious cabal controlling everything. US citizens leech shitloads of benefits. Social Security etc etc etc. ThatтАЩs where the money goes. ItтАЩs documented. You can look at it.
I'm not going to bother unpacking this insulting pile of horseshit, let alone explain to you how the world actually works.
REAL home prices are mostly determined by land value. Inflation accounts for more than HALF of the nominal increase in home prices in the U.S. over the last century.
Agreed, smits3. The cost of the building is small change compared to the cost of the land that holds it.
Not just the 'free' housing but also the restrictive zoning requirements.
Great point. Leftist politicians have created the housing crisis in California
Interesting point. I lived in Japan for two years courtesy of the US Navy and was struck that most of the neighborhoods felt lower middle class to poor but THEY WERE SAFE. The recent brilliant тАЬDEFUND THE POLICEтАЭ left wing movement did great harm to the poor
Yes, the "Defund" campaign did great harm to the poor--and everyone else. Carjackers don't care who you are, they just want your car, and when they no longer fear running into a cop, they steal more cars.
Yes, we need social workers and drug counselors and an overhaul of the criminal justice prison industrial complex. What we do NOT need are fewer cops on the beat and get out of jail free cards issued to violent criminals as is the case in Chicago and San Francisco.
Remember what Sam Kinnison said about famine and living in the desert? Move out of that leftist "paradise." Yes its the groceries and the gasoline and the cost of heating and cooling a home. For most people who live in the sane zones of our nation.
Problem with the "move somewhere else" concept is most of the jobs are in cities, as are most medical facilities, social networking, grocery stores, and other needs of life. You have to drive a car, because there is no other way to get around in the boonies. You can't be old or crippled, because there are no accommodations. Etc.
Homes surely cost less in rural Nebraska than central Manhattan, but there is a severe tradeoff for making that move.
You paint with an enormously broad brush. There are nice towns and smaller cities across our country that have social services and good transportation systems. SF and NYC are renowned for obscenely high rents. (See how nice I'm being on Christmas Eve, no less?)/
For $19.95 you can load all your shit into a U-Haul van and go anywhere you want.
If you're living in a motel, you probably don't have much more than fits in the trunk of an Uber anyhow.
If you're living in a motel in The TenderloinтАФwith babiesтАФyou've probably burned through all you support bridges, and the person most responsible for your situation is looking at you out of the mirror.
"You've obviously never been a poor single mom."
Hmmm......if I identify as one will I become one?
Do you identify as a Social Darwinist?
Do you identify as a Darwin Award recipient?
Seeing as you have to die to win one of those, it would be pretty impressive if I won and was still commenting.
Keep trying.......
Penny you can't just keep making excuses for everyone. Yes people face challenges - all sorts of them - but at some point we have to insist on good decisions and personal responsibility. As far as your rant about third-world hell holes...... The one thing that has separated us from them is a 250 year history of the rule of law and fealty to our Constitution. It works.
Kinnison was funny. Your tedious lectures are boring.
So....babies born in deserts made bad life choices?
Their mothers sure did.
That's why birth control and abortions should be free on demand.
Talk to the Ethiopians. That was the discussion. A target you missed by...miles.
Actually, Penny said "please offer some compassion to helpless children", and your response was that the children should just take "personal responsibility" and that we should "insist on good decisions".
So yeah, I hit the bullseye and you think 6-month olds born into poverty should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Penny was addressing single moms. I never said helpless children needed to take personal responsibility. Not a big fan of reading comp, are you?
Btw, 12 year old girls commence retorts with "actually." Nice try miles.
Penny was addressing the children of single moms, so when you say the answer is personal responsibility, then yes, you are saying helpless children needed to take personal responsibility. Either that, or you missed that Penny was talking about the kids, in which case your reading comp is dogshit.
btw, kids these days spell it "AcKsHuALLY", so actually I kept it old school.