I was listening to this exchange and heard Brian said that he is a subscriber of yours. Brian, you should know that the American people have woken up to the gaslighting of your network and no matter what you do in the future, they will never unsee what you guys did to our country and to our people. I have watched the destruction of peo…
I was listening to this exchange and heard Brian said that he is a subscriber of yours. Brian, you should know that the American people have woken up to the gaslighting of your network and no matter what you do in the future, they will never unsee what you guys did to our country and to our people. I have watched the destruction of people I care for due to the treachery of the CNN narrative. And I have watched the nobility of left leaning people such as Bari Weiss, Glen Greenwald, Matt Taibbi and I would include Megyn Kelley (who is a self described Independent) who left the legacy media out of some sort of courageous nobility without knowing what they would do next. I feel like our children and grandchildren will remember them as the people who heroically risked a lot to tell the truth in a lying world. I don't think the American people will ever trust the people at CNN ever again.
Trust is a keyword. You can't have financial transactions without trust. You can't have a government without trust. You can't have a press or media without trust. You can not educate without trust.
The Government has done nothing lately that is ethical or moral for the people except give money to the wealthy and businesses. The media spouts out a narrative that alienates and goes against the morals and ethics we developed and were taught by our families and churches, synagogs, or mosques. The narrative of the Government and the media are the same. YOU CAN TRUST NOTHING NOW.
Never HEARD-a "gain of function" before, but what it MEANS is that the COVID shite was genetically engineered to be a LOT more powerful than normal bat viruses that occur in nature.
COVID was engineered by the Chinese Government, specifically to hurt the United States, and it was strategically released at the exact correct time to hurt Trump's re-election campaign.
I’m sure you’re right - I guess I want him to know that his vitriolic lies and the hatred he pushed had consequences in the lives of a lot of real people. That what they did mattered. He probably doesn’t care
Yes. I actually did notice a very slight shift in the coverage of wokeism in the NYT. But it's still very woke, especially when it comes to anything about "transgender."
My husband, who has moderately severe Alzheimer's, likes to have MSNBC on whenever he isn't watching the shopping channel. Watching their weekend lineup of hosts and guests is like being subjected to one of Chairman Mao's struggle sessions. I don't sense it's changed at all. If anything, it seems to have gotten worse.
I think it's more a financial decision than anything else. If these outlets go "all in" on woke, then they drive away the vast majority of potential customers. Going all in on woke arguably made business sense during the Trump presidency, because there was so much demand for "Orange Man Bad" content. But now that Biden is president, woke media has seen a BIG dropoff in revenue.
So they are trying to do some financial damage-control, and entice back their lost customers by diversifying their product offering, i.e. bringing back some more moderate coverage. That's why the NYT brought in John McWhorter; they realized that when Bari left she took a lot of paying customers with her.
Actually, I think liberal media went all in on the "woke" politics because they lost the pulling power, the outrage of Trump. Without Trump, the wind went out of the sails. Negativity sells. Big time. Think of all of the tension. We were glued to media to see what outrageous thing he said next. (The things we'd agree with like getting some control on big pharma didn't make front page.)
I think they are reading the comments, re-evaluating and re-thinking. "Woke" plays well with affluent, under 30s, but not too well with the over 30s, who are numerically and economically greater.
I can't comment on CNN, etc. I don't watch news. I read and listen to news.
I love this response, and I agree - but can I make a slight push back? I think Fox News has commentators who will go after the LEADERS in the Democratic Party. They are the only channel that will host their view point and yes it is often biased toward the Republican Party. However, liberal media not only goes after conservative leaders, but the big change in recent years is that liberal media urges regular democratic voters to go after and HATE the actual VOTERS of the other party - they don't stop with criticizing policy. I am often in a room with lots of people (all of whom I like and all of whom are truly good people) where someone will start talking about the evil of Trumpers. They have no idea that half the people in that room probably voted differently from them. The conservative voters pretty much stay quiet and take the insults because they believe everyone has a right to their opinion. I know that many people probably see this differently, and I could certainly be wrong, however that is what I tend to notice.
Here is the dividing line to me, and I may only see it from a very skewed perspective: It appears to me that the DNC supporters, Left, more liberal (at least many of them) see their political opponents as EVIL. I think that, at least for people that I know and speak to, that Right leaning conservatives just believe that their opponents are WRONG, not evil. For myself, I have to take a line from a movie to articulate my position. From Captain America- "Some men you save...and some men you just have to just STOP." I want to believe that my political enemies are people I can save. Does that make sense?
"liberal media urges regular democratic voters to go after and HATE the actual VOTERS of the other party"
YES. So True.
I'm a physician. Myself & my entire family are former Dem voters, switched to GOP in 2015. I practice medicine in a Blue State, in a big city which is Woke.
Most of my patients are old liberal Blue voters, some are young Woke. They think I am one of them, so they tell me their "secrets."
Very often, too often, a patient leans in & quietly whispers "Doctor, I have a secret. I wish all Unvaccinated people would die. I think Unvaccinated people should not be allowed in ERs & hospitals. They deserve to die"
When I ask them where they got such horrifying ideas. They tell me CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, the Atlantic, etc
Another thing these patients say to me : "Doctor how can you bear living in that neighborhood you live in? There are Back the Blue signs and U.S. flags there"
While I have heard the term "Libtard" maybe once/twice on TV, I have not heard any single Trump voter say this in real life. And I personally know hundreds of Trump voters (family, friends, patients).
"I have not watched Fox News so I don't know how they speak about Democratic voters."
And therein lies the problem. If a representative of the sort of left-wing people who actually read Bari Weiss is oblivious to Fox after all these years, how much more the typical left-wing person? How many more long-held assumptions have you never actually tested?
I spent a couple of years on Zoom mostly with a polite, quite Left retiree as we both worked to understand each other. I’m a Fox viewer that very much respects real Liberalism (big fan of Camilla Paglia). What I saw hundreds of times is that Fox will conveniently omit details out of stories that dilute their bias, while all of CNN, NBC, MSNBC, Facebook routinely omit entire topics that don’t support their message.
I’ve thoroughly confirmed this echo chamber just by asking close friends about current stories. They virtually never even know of the issue unless it can be presented as a confirmation of Evil Trump, White Supremacists behind every bush, etc.
my biggest rub is that I have to research enormously to triangulate some approximation of the truth. I’m so thankful for all 5 of the remaining real journalists in the world.
NYPOST is good. One of the Last remaining Independent News organizations. I sincerely hope they stay Independent. 95% of all media is owned by the same 5 CEOs and runs the exact same message/content.
I was listening to this exchange and heard Brian said that he is a subscriber of yours. Brian, you should know that the American people have woken up to the gaslighting of your network and no matter what you do in the future, they will never unsee what you guys did to our country and to our people. I have watched the destruction of people I care for due to the treachery of the CNN narrative. And I have watched the nobility of left leaning people such as Bari Weiss, Glen Greenwald, Matt Taibbi and I would include Megyn Kelley (who is a self described Independent) who left the legacy media out of some sort of courageous nobility without knowing what they would do next. I feel like our children and grandchildren will remember them as the people who heroically risked a lot to tell the truth in a lying world. I don't think the American people will ever trust the people at CNN ever again.
Trust is a keyword. You can't have financial transactions without trust. You can't have a government without trust. You can't have a press or media without trust. You can not educate without trust.
The Government has done nothing lately that is ethical or moral for the people except give money to the wealthy and businesses. The media spouts out a narrative that alienates and goes against the morals and ethics we developed and were taught by our families and churches, synagogs, or mosques. The narrative of the Government and the media are the same. YOU CAN TRUST NOTHING NOW.
I real SORRY to give evidence You're right on this, Sir Odin. (And no, haven't forgotten. ;)
"NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements"
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nih-admits-to-funding-gain-of-function-research-in-wuhan-says-ecohealth-violated-reporting-requirements/
Never HEARD-a "gain of function" before, but what it MEANS is that the COVID shite was genetically engineered to be a LOT more powerful than normal bat viruses that occur in nature.
Sad day for me... :( For all-a US.
COVID was engineered by the Chinese Government, specifically to hurt the United States, and it was strategically released at the exact correct time to hurt Trump's re-election campaign.
COVID virus is the ONLY virus that targets people with Obesity & Morbid Obesity. The ONLY virus to do that.
The U.S. has the most Obese & Morbidly Obese people in the world.
This is not a coincidence.
I should mention that even though I voted Trump, I disagreed with many many many things he did, and it is time for someone new.
CNN was government propaganda from day one. Why would you ever trust them at all?
I appreciate your comment to Brian, but I suspect he was just doing the CNN Shuffle—aka telling a self-serving lie—when he said that.
I’m sure you’re right - I guess I want him to know that his vitriolic lies and the hatred he pushed had consequences in the lives of a lot of real people. That what they did mattered. He probably doesn’t care
Yes. I actually did notice a very slight shift in the coverage of wokeism in the NYT. But it's still very woke, especially when it comes to anything about "transgender."
My husband, who has moderately severe Alzheimer's, likes to have MSNBC on whenever he isn't watching the shopping channel. Watching their weekend lineup of hosts and guests is like being subjected to one of Chairman Mao's struggle sessions. I don't sense it's changed at all. If anything, it seems to have gotten worse.
I think it's more a financial decision than anything else. If these outlets go "all in" on woke, then they drive away the vast majority of potential customers. Going all in on woke arguably made business sense during the Trump presidency, because there was so much demand for "Orange Man Bad" content. But now that Biden is president, woke media has seen a BIG dropoff in revenue.
So they are trying to do some financial damage-control, and entice back their lost customers by diversifying their product offering, i.e. bringing back some more moderate coverage. That's why the NYT brought in John McWhorter; they realized that when Bari left she took a lot of paying customers with her.
Actually, I think liberal media went all in on the "woke" politics because they lost the pulling power, the outrage of Trump. Without Trump, the wind went out of the sails. Negativity sells. Big time. Think of all of the tension. We were glued to media to see what outrageous thing he said next. (The things we'd agree with like getting some control on big pharma didn't make front page.)
I think they are reading the comments, re-evaluating and re-thinking. "Woke" plays well with affluent, under 30s, but not too well with the over 30s, who are numerically and economically greater.
I can't comment on CNN, etc. I don't watch news. I read and listen to news.
I love this response, and I agree - but can I make a slight push back? I think Fox News has commentators who will go after the LEADERS in the Democratic Party. They are the only channel that will host their view point and yes it is often biased toward the Republican Party. However, liberal media not only goes after conservative leaders, but the big change in recent years is that liberal media urges regular democratic voters to go after and HATE the actual VOTERS of the other party - they don't stop with criticizing policy. I am often in a room with lots of people (all of whom I like and all of whom are truly good people) where someone will start talking about the evil of Trumpers. They have no idea that half the people in that room probably voted differently from them. The conservative voters pretty much stay quiet and take the insults because they believe everyone has a right to their opinion. I know that many people probably see this differently, and I could certainly be wrong, however that is what I tend to notice.
Here is the dividing line to me, and I may only see it from a very skewed perspective: It appears to me that the DNC supporters, Left, more liberal (at least many of them) see their political opponents as EVIL. I think that, at least for people that I know and speak to, that Right leaning conservatives just believe that their opponents are WRONG, not evil. For myself, I have to take a line from a movie to articulate my position. From Captain America- "Some men you save...and some men you just have to just STOP." I want to believe that my political enemies are people I can save. Does that make sense?
"liberal media urges regular democratic voters to go after and HATE the actual VOTERS of the other party"
YES. So True.
I'm a physician. Myself & my entire family are former Dem voters, switched to GOP in 2015. I practice medicine in a Blue State, in a big city which is Woke.
Most of my patients are old liberal Blue voters, some are young Woke. They think I am one of them, so they tell me their "secrets."
Very often, too often, a patient leans in & quietly whispers "Doctor, I have a secret. I wish all Unvaccinated people would die. I think Unvaccinated people should not be allowed in ERs & hospitals. They deserve to die"
When I ask them where they got such horrifying ideas. They tell me CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, the Atlantic, etc
Another thing these patients say to me : "Doctor how can you bear living in that neighborhood you live in? There are Back the Blue signs and U.S. flags there"
While I have heard the term "Libtard" maybe once/twice on TV, I have not heard any single Trump voter say this in real life. And I personally know hundreds of Trump voters (family, friends, patients).
"I have not watched Fox News so I don't know how they speak about Democratic voters."
And therein lies the problem. If a representative of the sort of left-wing people who actually read Bari Weiss is oblivious to Fox after all these years, how much more the typical left-wing person? How many more long-held assumptions have you never actually tested?
PARTLY so, M. Free. But NO, the problem is people WATCHING Fox news. Where do YOU get a diversity of opinion?
Anybody watching cable IS the problem. Doesn't matter which one. The fact that Fox is about the ONLY one on the right doesn't make it right, right?
I spent a couple of years on Zoom mostly with a polite, quite Left retiree as we both worked to understand each other. I’m a Fox viewer that very much respects real Liberalism (big fan of Camilla Paglia). What I saw hundreds of times is that Fox will conveniently omit details out of stories that dilute their bias, while all of CNN, NBC, MSNBC, Facebook routinely omit entire topics that don’t support their message.
I’ve thoroughly confirmed this echo chamber just by asking close friends about current stories. They virtually never even know of the issue unless it can be presented as a confirmation of Evil Trump, White Supremacists behind every bush, etc.
my biggest rub is that I have to research enormously to triangulate some approximation of the truth. I’m so thankful for all 5 of the remaining real journalists in the world.
NYPOST is good. One of the Last remaining Independent News organizations. I sincerely hope they stay Independent. 95% of all media is owned by the same 5 CEOs and runs the exact same message/content.
You’re awesome Penny - made me laugh
Oh Yaeh... got that