The fact that the progressive left is now doing to Rowling in the 2020's EXACTLY what the Christian conservatives did to her the late 1990's (tar and feather her without bothering to actually read her writings) is so amazingly rich.
When I listened to the podcast it became clear that the vast majority of the people upset with her books promoting witchcraft and satanism never bothered to read them and instead got their information from their tribe. The exact same thing is happening today of course with progressives. Most have no clue what she has actually said about transgender people and simply go with what others have told them.
There is a dark lesson here about human nature I suppose. Truth and fairness doesn't matter to most people nearly as much as keeping face with their tribes.
You nailed it minimalist!! Very well said. If I recall correctly, several months ago there was an excellent article in the Free Press that addressed the fact that many people would rather be in a tribe - even if they donтАЩt agree with everything - than be alone.
All of this fascinates me. Most people donтАЩt want to spend any time digging deeper themselves for the real facts. Just believe what a tribe member says and hop on board.
Everyone needs to just leave JK Rowling alone. Her books are the best - creative and fun. My kids have read so much more because of them. They want to be witches and wizards as much as any other fictional character in any book and/or movie theyтАЩve experienced. They understand itтАЩs FICTION. If they are at all confused about this, my wife and I simply explain it (thatтАЩs our job as parents) to them. Usually their response is, тАЬOK Mom/Dad, I get it,тАЭ and then they go about being a kid.
Do the people who condemn JKR really believe in witches and demons. If they do, they are the nutty ones who can't separate fantasy from reality not JFR.
Do her critics really believe in magic? If they do, seek help.
As I was listening to this I thought were the fuck was I at when this was happening? Then I remembered, homeless drug addicts who live under bridges don't own TVs.
Fundamentalists wouldn't read what JKR had written because of "demonic influence". The woke won't read her actual words because they might cause "harm" and "violence". The parallels between the two groups are pretty striking actually. The willingness to let tribe leaders tell them what to think, the fear of investigating things on their own.
Your friends are typical left wing ignoramuses. They walk in glassy eyed lock step to the lies their equally ignorant woke tyrants tell them. However. I don't think the woke swine believe the lies they put out. I think the tyrants take a sick pleasure destroying people, like Paula Dean was destroyed. They get a rush from the power they have over the sheep.
And two, the woke tyrants are Marxists trying to destroy our culture, our way of live and our democracy. Some will say, Lonesome you're a conspiracy nut case. Maybe I am but I think the evidence speaks for itself. If anybody is a nut case, it is those who believe the woke tyrants. These people can't think for themselves and if they do, they have no analytical skills and they love, no passionately want, to be led around by the nose.
Actually, I believe she was sued for racial and sexual discrimination and during her deposition said "of course she had said N*gger at times." Which is probably not the best move in the workplace?
The plaintiff, a white woman, was ruled not to have standing for the racial discrimintation suit, but the sexual discrimination suit went forward.
So, was actually, more than a "one off" from 20 years ago. But considering her background, etc pretty par for the course, it seems.
As the old saying goes - if you are not a liberal as a young adult, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative as an older adult, you have no brain. Liberals trade on emotion, conservatives rely on facts.
I definitely need a new set of friends LP. I feel like IтАЩm participating in тАЬThe Last of UsтАЭ. All I hear is that Donald Trump has endangered the world as well as He is a danger to the world, remember at this stage he is not in the room. Bibi is a piece of Sh.. Israel is an apartheid state. UkraineтАЩs Zelensky is an Angel,his wife is beautiful. And if I happen to mention that our money is going down the tubes on Ukraine I immediately become the pariah in the room. I also donтАЩt think you a conspiracy nut case, I think you spot on between Biden and the woke mob our country is going one way and thatтАЩs downhill.
They're not Marxists, as such, but many far-left activists do think of themselves as a kind of revolutionary vanguard. They draw more from postmodernist and poststructuralist philosophy of the 1980s and 1990s - Foucault, Derrida - than from the Marxist or neo-Marxist thought of earlier decades.
Such activists certainly do draw from the same ideological playbook as other revolutionaries, though, perhaps most notably the little red playbook of the Maoists; but what they are opposing in this case is not capitalism but the "dominant narrative" regarding sex and gender. In a recent conversation, I drew one such activist into stating plainly that they think the dominant narrative is only held in place by power, with the clear implication that the only way to fight power is with more power.
Anyone who dissents in any particular from the revolutionary dogma must be converted; if they can't be converted, they must be broken; if they can't be broken, they must be sent to the gulag . . . or to the pyre.
Yeah, maybe not Marxist per se but it is notable that the three volume edition of the complete Prison Notebooks of Antonio Gramsci was edited by Joseph Buttigieg
I disagree. The Dems have at least three avowed socialists in the house and senate, Bernie Sanders, AOC and the Palestinian gal. They all belong to the DSA which is a misnomer. There has never been a democratic socialist state. they are all run by bloody dictators and the Dem/Soc is racing towards communism as fast as they can. Historians call Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin socialists.
Oh, yeah, there are definitely avowed socialists on the far left, and an uncritical embrace of Marxist ideas by young progressives (including my own kids); and there is some overlap between them. But gender ideology as such is a whole different kind of animal.
The deeper problem is the excessive zeal of dogmatic young "revolutionaries" rather than Marxism as such.
Also, there are offshoots of Marxism that use his form of critique in the service of genuine democratic deliberation, leaving behind revolutionary insurgency. I suspect many self-identified socialists, like Sanders, lean that way; the Vermont brand of socialism is its own thing, rooted more in addressing the concrete concerns of actual working people.
тАЬ former the presidents appointmented judges sitting in judgment they were all thrown out for lack of merit.тАЭ. Wrong. Not one was thrown out тАЬfor lack of meritтАЭ. Each one was dismissed due to lack of standing from the plaintiffs. Big difference since the тАЬmeritтАЭ was never allowed to be proved by the evidence. Turn off MSNDC. Repeating their false talking points just make you look stupid.
R T, repeating what he watched on MSNBC this weekend. They're gonna get Trump... someday. Just watch!
I'll say this as someone who voted for Trump twice, when asked this past weekend by my Democrat in-laws what I thought of the Minnesota abortion law, I said Minnesotans elected Democrats to do things Democrats do. That's how it's supposed to work. I contrasted this normalcy with the insane tactics of Democrats when Wisconsin Republicans were working to pass Act 10. Intimidation is the other thing Democrats do. Republicans don't have time for that; we're too busy working.
Yeah, I'm thinking of buying the new Hogwarts video game. It doesn't interest me, particularly, but it's tempting just on account of its being "forbidden"!
When the Dixie Chicks dissed George W I bought their next CD despite not being a fan to support them after the nasty backlash. I didnтАЩt agree with their message but I damn sure supported their right to say it.
You only believe in free speech if you support everyoneтАЩs right to free speech.
I think it is a manifestation of the sins of pride (righteousness to s fault and no consideration that it may be God's will to do otherwise) and greed (hoarding God's love by saying worship my way or hit the highway). Dana Carvey's Church Lady skit was IMO spot on. That is not to say by any means that all of the faithful are like that. But if you have ever been to church you have seen at least one and in some congregations more. And it is not limited to the ladies either.
Indeed, the entire level of hysteria over opinions these days is nothing short of empty performative nonsense.
"Read it and maybe disagree". Wouldn't it be nice if things really did go that way.
The fact that the progressive left is now doing to Rowling in the 2020's EXACTLY what the Christian conservatives did to her the late 1990's (tar and feather her without bothering to actually read her writings) is so amazingly rich.
When I listened to the podcast it became clear that the vast majority of the people upset with her books promoting witchcraft and satanism never bothered to read them and instead got their information from their tribe. The exact same thing is happening today of course with progressives. Most have no clue what she has actually said about transgender people and simply go with what others have told them.
There is a dark lesson here about human nature I suppose. Truth and fairness doesn't matter to most people nearly as much as keeping face with their tribes.
You nailed it minimalist!! Very well said. If I recall correctly, several months ago there was an excellent article in the Free Press that addressed the fact that many people would rather be in a tribe - even if they donтАЩt agree with everything - than be alone.
All of this fascinates me. Most people donтАЩt want to spend any time digging deeper themselves for the real facts. Just believe what a tribe member says and hop on board.
Everyone needs to just leave JK Rowling alone. Her books are the best - creative and fun. My kids have read so much more because of them. They want to be witches and wizards as much as any other fictional character in any book and/or movie theyтАЩve experienced. They understand itтАЩs FICTION. If they are at all confused about this, my wife and I simply explain it (thatтАЩs our job as parents) to them. Usually their response is, тАЬOK Mom/Dad, I get it,тАЭ and then they go about being a kid.
Have a nice day my friends!
John
Do the people who condemn JKR really believe in witches and demons. If they do, they are the nutty ones who can't separate fantasy from reality not JFR.
Do her critics really believe in magic? If they do, seek help.
How right you are.
As I was listening to this I thought were the fuck was I at when this was happening? Then I remembered, homeless drug addicts who live under bridges don't own TVs.
Fundamentalists wouldn't read what JKR had written because of "demonic influence". The woke won't read her actual words because they might cause "harm" and "violence". The parallels between the two groups are pretty striking actually. The willingness to let tribe leaders tell them what to think, the fear of investigating things on their own.
There is very little separation between either one of them.
Your friends are typical left wing ignoramuses. They walk in glassy eyed lock step to the lies their equally ignorant woke tyrants tell them. However. I don't think the woke swine believe the lies they put out. I think the tyrants take a sick pleasure destroying people, like Paula Dean was destroyed. They get a rush from the power they have over the sheep.
And two, the woke tyrants are Marxists trying to destroy our culture, our way of live and our democracy. Some will say, Lonesome you're a conspiracy nut case. Maybe I am but I think the evidence speaks for itself. If anybody is a nut case, it is those who believe the woke tyrants. These people can't think for themselves and if they do, they have no analytical skills and they love, no passionately want, to be led around by the nose.
You need a new set of friends.
Paul Deen? What did she do?
I think they dug up a racist word she used 20 years ago. Something like that.
Actually, I believe she was sued for racial and sexual discrimination and during her deposition said "of course she had said N*gger at times." Which is probably not the best move in the workplace?
The plaintiff, a white woman, was ruled not to have standing for the racial discrimintation suit, but the sexual discrimination suit went forward.
So, was actually, more than a "one off" from 20 years ago. But considering her background, etc pretty par for the course, it seems.
As the old saying goes - if you are not a liberal as a young adult, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative as an older adult, you have no brain. Liberals trade on emotion, conservatives rely on facts.
Winston Churchill. I agree that is why I call them the unicorn, rainbow party.
Right and they are much more fun and feel good. Conservatives care more about actual results than what sounds nice. IMHO.
I definitely need a new set of friends LP. I feel like IтАЩm participating in тАЬThe Last of UsтАЭ. All I hear is that Donald Trump has endangered the world as well as He is a danger to the world, remember at this stage he is not in the room. Bibi is a piece of Sh.. Israel is an apartheid state. UkraineтАЩs Zelensky is an Angel,his wife is beautiful. And if I happen to mention that our money is going down the tubes on Ukraine I immediately become the pariah in the room. I also donтАЩt think you a conspiracy nut case, I think you spot on between Biden and the woke mob our country is going one way and thatтАЩs downhill.
Are you saying Zelenskyy's wife is not beautiful? Have you eyes to see?
They're not Marxists, as such, but many far-left activists do think of themselves as a kind of revolutionary vanguard. They draw more from postmodernist and poststructuralist philosophy of the 1980s and 1990s - Foucault, Derrida - than from the Marxist or neo-Marxist thought of earlier decades.
Such activists certainly do draw from the same ideological playbook as other revolutionaries, though, perhaps most notably the little red playbook of the Maoists; but what they are opposing in this case is not capitalism but the "dominant narrative" regarding sex and gender. In a recent conversation, I drew one such activist into stating plainly that they think the dominant narrative is only held in place by power, with the clear implication that the only way to fight power is with more power.
Anyone who dissents in any particular from the revolutionary dogma must be converted; if they can't be converted, they must be broken; if they can't be broken, they must be sent to the gulag . . . or to the pyre.
Yeah, maybe not Marxist per se but it is notable that the three volume edition of the complete Prison Notebooks of Antonio Gramsci was edited by Joseph Buttigieg
I disagree. The Dems have at least three avowed socialists in the house and senate, Bernie Sanders, AOC and the Palestinian gal. They all belong to the DSA which is a misnomer. There has never been a democratic socialist state. they are all run by bloody dictators and the Dem/Soc is racing towards communism as fast as they can. Historians call Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin socialists.
Add Summer Lee from the Pittsburgh area. SheтАЩs a тАЬDemocratic SocialistтАЭ.
Oh, yeah, there are definitely avowed socialists on the far left, and an uncritical embrace of Marxist ideas by young progressives (including my own kids); and there is some overlap between them. But gender ideology as such is a whole different kind of animal.
The deeper problem is the excessive zeal of dogmatic young "revolutionaries" rather than Marxism as such.
Also, there are offshoots of Marxism that use his form of critique in the service of genuine democratic deliberation, leaving behind revolutionary insurgency. I suspect many self-identified socialists, like Sanders, lean that way; the Vermont brand of socialism is its own thing, rooted more in addressing the concrete concerns of actual working people.
When some Germans protested Hitler and his NAZI party, should they have stopped. They should have because many ended up in death camps.
All of us should fight tyranny tooth and nail regardless of its stripe.
Typical non-response. "Trump, Trump, Trump -a one note band. can't you think of anything else to harp on?
In my post did I say anything that would give you the idea that I didn't want change through the vote?
I'm against tyranny of any kind but it seems to me that tyranny of the left is just fine with you. Now address my post without mentioning Trump!
"When some Germans protested Hitler and his NAZI party, should they have stopped. They should have because many ended up in death camps.
All of us should fight tyranny tooth and nail regardless of its stripe."
тАЬ former the presidents appointmented judges sitting in judgment they were all thrown out for lack of merit.тАЭ. Wrong. Not one was thrown out тАЬfor lack of meritтАЭ. Each one was dismissed due to lack of standing from the plaintiffs. Big difference since the тАЬmeritтАЭ was never allowed to be proved by the evidence. Turn off MSNDC. Repeating their false talking points just make you look stupid.
Trump, Trump, Trump, one trick pony.
I was right weeks ago not to answer your one subject rants and I will try to never answer you again unless you come up with new material.
R T, repeating what he watched on MSNBC this weekend. They're gonna get Trump... someday. Just watch!
I'll say this as someone who voted for Trump twice, when asked this past weekend by my Democrat in-laws what I thought of the Minnesota abortion law, I said Minnesotans elected Democrats to do things Democrats do. That's how it's supposed to work. I contrasted this normalcy with the insane tactics of Democrats when Wisconsin Republicans were working to pass Act 10. Intimidation is the other thing Democrats do. Republicans don't have time for that; we're too busy working.
By your non-response it seems to me that you have poor reading comprehension skills.
You need to work on that.
This reply seems to be to someone else's post.
As soon as someone tells me not to read a particular book or article you can be sure I'm now reading said book or article.
Yeah, I'm thinking of buying the new Hogwarts video game. It doesn't interest me, particularly, but it's tempting just on account of its being "forbidden"!
When the Dixie Chicks dissed George W I bought their next CD despite not being a fan to support them after the nasty backlash. I didnтАЩt agree with their message but I damn sure supported their right to say it.
You only believe in free speech if you support everyoneтАЩs right to free speech.
Apostasy is always a far greater crime to the religious than being a heathen. I don't understand why, but it's always this way.
I think it is a manifestation of the sins of pride (righteousness to s fault and no consideration that it may be God's will to do otherwise) and greed (hoarding God's love by saying worship my way or hit the highway). Dana Carvey's Church Lady skit was IMO spot on. That is not to say by any means that all of the faithful are like that. But if you have ever been to church you have seen at least one and in some congregations more. And it is not limited to the ladies either.
Probably the best summary IтАЩve read yet. Spot on!
I eschew obfuscation.
Reminds me of one of Twain's advisories for good writing: "Eschew surplusage".
Yeah, that to.
Ditto!