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I have listen intently to the podcast and read the piece in the Free Press. Its good that Nellie can see the errors of her ways now. She is on a path that will lead her to question many other of her long held believes. As an example Free Universal Healthcare . I dare you to read this piece from 1992 in the American Heritage

https://www.americanheritage.com/how-americas-health-care-fell-ill

You will read about how medical insurance came into being and how Government policies have always made the situation worse and this was written 32 years prior to the perversion of Obamacare.

I still contend and her book confirms it that the lefts worldview is all built upon lies. The soft easy lies that they tell themselves over and over again in their little protected bubbles where opposing views are violently destroyed. The lies become reality to them but they are always built upon the sands and never the rocks. The wave of reality always comes ashore and destroys their world washing the debris back into the sea of reality and truth. The debris is always the lives and property of the poor and lower income people its never the lives and property of the elites that made these decisions.

This is why they have to cancel and destroy anyone and everything that disagrees with them. That is why they can gleefully call us in flyover country deplorables (Nellie you know you agreed with Hilary).

However, She is seeing the light and she is on a new path and we celebrate your escape from the liberal bubble of lies and falsehoods. Something the left never ever gives us. Welcome to reality watch your leftside they are coming for you.

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appreciate this all but have difficulty seeing how the free press isn't just a different version of the elite? i don't see lots of writers here who hail from state schools. . or work as teachers or write for small local papers. so far this content feels like one long sales pitch and yet another site where opinion and gossip are presented as news . don't get me wrong--nice to see more nuance in the typical red/blue debate. but this isn't revelatory. it's just a version of the same.

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Listened to the podcast today (I know, I'm behind), and Nellie commentary made me think of an excellent essay from Scott Alexander -- I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup (30 Sep 2014 - https://www.slatestarcodexabridged.com/I-Can-Tolerate-Anything-Except-The-Outgroup). I would highly recommend it, if you haven't read it -- it's a great explainer for a lot of intolerance on both the right and left.

For what it's worth, I'd love to hear an Honestly podcast with Alexander and Weiss -- I think it would be a great conversation. His essay You Are Still Crying Wolf (16 Nov 2016 https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/) was an excellent analysis of the Trump/Clinton election.

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Nellie says the revolution won. I don't agree. America is worse off because of the revolution.

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Just listened to this one more time so my wife could hear it, and I was struck by Nellie's description of anti-racism. It sounds like something Archie Bunker would have concocted. I was literally thinking of episodes of All in the Family where Archie literally says extremely racist things right out of the anti-racism repertoire. How incredibly ironic and scary.

If they've never watched it, I suggest Bari and Nellie binge it ASAP. I suggest everyone watch that incredible show. It's one of the funniest sitcoms of all time and was created and produced by a "flaming liberal"—Norman Lear. Whether you're on the left, right or in the middle, you'll find plenty to squirm about and disagree with. But that's the way it should be. I'm surprised it hasn't been cancelled yet.

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Well my first impression was this was an incredibly convincing narrative of what was happening behind the scenes in MSM and NYT 2016 onward. The manner in which it was described was totally convincing to me and presented almost matter of factly but without a hint of personal malice. That must have been hard. My second impression was that the manifest gaslighting perused by many reporters and media outlets was far, far more egregious than I had assumed. It was worse than I had thought and that was a scary revelation. Entire events were deemed unimportant or dangerously helpful to the ‘opposition’ and thus totally ignored. It didn’t matter what there relevance was for victims of outrageous public disorder.

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Much of this podcast, particularly the final segment on the personal vs the political, read like half the National Review articles I've seen over the past 5 years. I'd be curious to hear your stance on the "Trump caused all this" vs "Trump is the result of all this" argument.

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Another thing I kept thinking as Nellie described the "movement's" (cult's) views was Steely Dan's great takedown of John Lennon's "Imagine", "Only a Fool Would Say That." That great song kept playing in my head throughout the podcast.

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I am here patiently waiting for anyone to utter the word Marxism. All this is cultural Marxism and if we don't acknowledge it we cant fight it.

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It's just devastating hearing this all summed up in once place. From the failure of progressive policies to protect the homeless, to keep housing affordable, to the utter corruption and cynicism of the BLM movement, to the grifting and cultural toxins that figures like Robin DiAngelo have brought into the world...it's just devastating. I hope we're moving past it, but I fear we've instead earned another 4 years of Trump.

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While I was at first interested in ordering Nellie's book I've decided otherwise after listening to the podcast. Yes, she was a soldier in the Progressive army who defected. But by her own admission the bravest thing she did was not cancelling a friend. Now, I'm not sure what type of struggle session I expect her to go through and I'm glad to see that she came around on the insanity that infects the far left. So she married a fellow apostate from the Times... wonderful. I'm as much of a sucker for a good love story as the next guy. Where is the real call out on what's happening now, because as she notes at the end, the revolution won? And it has it's tentacles everywhere and has subjugated a weak democratic president. I find the lefts threats of violence credible and a real possibility come this summers convention and the election itself. I love the flippant, blase form of TGIF and yes it's her book but I find her not giving proper weight to these issues. Perhaps more is said within the book.

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The Nellies of the world break things without any understanding of the silent victims who must pick up the pieces and carry on. Her pride without a wee bit of humility could only come from an upbringing of extreme privilege. I’m glad she’s starting to see the light but there are many Nellies in our society and in positions of authority running this country with “reimagine” goggles on, thinking they’re “doing good” when in fact, their policies most hurt the people who have the least.

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Nellie's journey to the middle proves one thing. The far left is just as dangerous as the far right.

As long as we veer to one side or the other and make everything political, our politicians will be the death of us all. This country will take decades to heal and we better start soon.

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looking forward to the book club!

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Excellent interview. I just bought the book on audible , narrated by Bowles (a voice commentary below suggests has a following). IMO the interview started weakly with a love fest, which while interesting and wonderful, kind of detracts from objectivity - a simple disclosure that the two are married would have sufficed. But by the end it was more than solid . Thank you for standing up to the MSM groupthink.

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Nellie and Bari are a work in progress. Nellie is an admitted elitist and it takes time and exposure to reasonable people to change your mind completely. Stay true to yourselves and your innate goodness.

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We need to form Elitists Anonymous! Hi, my name is Fred and I have two elitist degrees….

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