He’s been on a few other podcasts as I found via Listen Notes
Keen On: Ep 1441
lnns.co/yRJ4j_hfUzn
Coming Home: Ep. 359
lnns.co/ECuPgVbI5al
In one of them Rosen added he no longer visits Lauder.
https://lnns.co/yRJ4j_hfUzn
https://lnns.co/ECuPgVbI5al
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He’s been on a few other podcasts as I found via Listen Notes
Keen On: Ep 1441
https://lnns.co/yRJ4j_hfUzn
Coming Home: Ep. 359
https://lnns.co/ECuPgVbI5al
In one of them Rosen added he no longer visits Lauder.