Great point. Hilary was a slam dunk. It was going to be a landslide. She was the ideal marionette to advance the cabal’s global initiatives. Trump’s victory caught them and the establishment left with their pants down. His victory threw sand into the gears of the cabal and there would be hell to pay for it. They pulled and continue to pull out all the stops to regain control. It’s why we saw the press snap into line after 2016. Why we hear the dire “death to democracy” and “worse than Hitler” lines ad nauseam. It’s why instilling and promoting fear is rampant. The press is concerned about their role in “saving democracy” to the point they’ve abandoned all principles so as not to upset the people they work for.
Nov. 2024 is going to be ugly for America going forward. If you thought the last couple years were bad, buckle up.
Great post, I have buckled up since FJB came to unelected power, and yes I believe we are in for the ride of our lives and it’s not going to be pretty, however Americans are resilient we should be okay!
If Joe and his administration of dunces is good at one thing it is making enemies both around the world and at home. He’s the crotchety old man on the porch yelling at the neighbors.
We sure did in 2020! 2016 was a glitch nobody expected, and we know this because Hillary didn’t even think she needed to fully use her Steele dossier Russiagate hoax: she thought she had it in the bag.
Remember the way the press covered her loss? Her sadness over disappointing little girls? How she disappeared into the woods for a contemplative accounting of the soul, and then came back swinging? Bizarre.
She came back blaming Russia and everyone but herself. She’s truly the worst. I hope we’ve seen the last of Hillary. You know she’s looking for a way to swoop in and replace Biden on the ticket.
I simply cannot wrap my mind around how many good people I know who can bear up against the cognitive dissonance it requires for Trump to poll at 55% among conservatives. But, alas, it proves your statement.
I don’t know if it’s cognitive dissonance because he’s so full of contradictions it’s tough to pin him down. One thing he does do, guaranteed, is upset the status quo/kick the hornets nest. Which is enough for some. It’s interesting, though, that he went along with the initial flatten the curve stuff which undermines his alleged pro freedom position. I think the polls are failing to capture the other spectrum which is not left right but freedom vs authoritarianism.
I honestly think he was suckered into letting Birx and Fauci run the show by those around giving him advice. They were pretty “reputable” at the time. I don’t think he felt he had another choice, and if he did, that would’ve been the end of him for sure because those two were pretty popular at the time. That’s the only thing I can thing of to make sense of it. I was fooled by the two of them as well.
I voted libertarian in 2016 and thought for sure that pro-business, roaring economy Trump would know better than to try to shut down the economy and choke small businesses with the “curve flattening.” Boy, was I wrong. The buck stops with the boss and the boss agreed to it. Why are you giving him a pass? He failed.
Despite the unknown, Sweden’s health czar said that societal lockdown for a respiratory virus had never been tried and that there could be negative downstream consequences. He also said it isn’t clear that it was legal for the federal government to shut things down like that. So they didn’t. Spoiler alert: it’s not legal in the US either, but nobody bothered to consider that because politicians can use emergency declarations for absolutely anything they want, and then renew those declarations until citizens manage to find a court to reaffirm our freedom (which is inherent). Devilish trick they played on us. I will never forget a single thing that led to our brush with authoritarianism.
The gov’t took advantage of people’s basic decency. And then the cult of the vax card emerged. It seemed like just when I thought things couldn’t get crazier, the next unimaginable thing would occur. No informed consent. Evil.
I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t think I’m giving him a pass as much as I felt it was his only option given every unique situation that was happening. They were ALL against him. Who stood by him during that time? Can you imagine the fake news outrage if he went against the beloved Birx and Fauci in the beginning? He would’ve been done, and I think he knew it. You could tell by his actions and his mood. All that said, I did become disappointed in a lot of how things went down with Covid. It basically lost his chances for reelection.
I’ve wondered about this, too—I seem to remember reading Bhattacharya et al saying they reached out to the administration, but I don’t remember when that was. But Ioannidis was definitely saying the numbers were inflated before Trump went ahead with lockdown. Where was his invitation to the White House?
This is true but they were treated so unfairly. Remember, the left fools were afraid to step outside without an N95! They would’ve lost it if Trump sided with them! I’m trying to look at this objectively but realize it may sound like I’m defending him. He was against all odds the way I saw it.
I haven’t been following-has he acknowledged that he blew it? Without blaming anyone but himself? That he, president and commander-in-chief, made a call, and that it was the wrong call? For me, there’d be no moving forward without it. What do you hope to see him accomplish if he gets another term?
Believe me, I don’t want another term of either of these two! But seriously, when has any politician admitted wrong doing? I’ve lost all trust in our politicians which is why I’m scared for future generations in my family. And no one made me feel better after watching them bicker last night. I think Desantis will stand strongest for our country and at least he kept his cool this time.
I hear ya, apologies aren’t in the nature of the political animal. But it’s necessary to show they understand the seriousness of it. The damage is incredible.
Bruce, this discussion isn’t abt whether we prefer Trump to Biden, it’s abt Republicans finding a candidate with the chutzpah of Trump and still manages to be a decent human being. My understanding of Jolene’s original point was our leaders are a reflection of us/our culture, not the other way around. I, for one, sure wish we were better!
"it’s abt Republicans finding a candidate with the chutzpah of Trump and still manages to be a decent human being."
Name one. It certainly isn't the execrable Haley, Christie or Pence. DeSantis might have worked but his campaign is a bungled mess. And Vivek is just too young.
I think that was the point. We are going to get some form of crap, because that is what is on offer.
Several of them could end up being contenders, but aren't yet. Also, what does Vivek's age have to do with anything? Too young because you don't think people will vote for a young person?
I would rather be specific with what he is wrong about rather than a blanket statement. Based on that logic, Biden should be much wiser than he is. Lack of experience doesn't mean someone cannot understand a thing or make good choices about a thing.
Biden is way older and hasn't learned that he isn't as smart as he thinks.
My issue is that saying he is young doesn't actually tell what the issues you have with him are. It just sounds like bias, or a way to dismiss someone without actually saying anything. Saying "He has ALOT to learn" also doesn't say anything. That statement could easily apply to most of Washington.
But these two things aren't mutually exclusive in any way. I just don't understand going with Trump again in 2024, though Barry Cooper above makes a good case I can only shake my head at what I see as a self-immolating choice. I also can't stand Biden at all and want to see him out of the Oval Office.
If Trump dismantles the administrative state - even a significant part of it - it is not a loss. It is, to the contrary, a huge victory for liberty and our Constitution.
Trump might not get a chance. The ultra MAGA lytes poor idiot McCarthy can’t control in the House might dismantle the state all by themselves. Government shutdown in days - no Social Security checks, no military pay, no funding for anything. Not even border security (how about that for irony?).
Will his dismantling of the administrative state resemble his draining of the swamp? Because he didn’t do that, either. I think our goose is cooked. We should look to family and immediate community of like-minded folks. The federal stuff has been imploding for a long time and this next election cycle will be ghastly. I’m not voting anymore, I’m done.
Any voting machine that connects to the internet at any point can be hacked. And then there’s the mail-ins. Voting and volunteering won’t fix these vulnerabilities. But most importantly, I don’t want to choose between turds anymore. It’s beneath me. It’s beneath all of us.
Please start being upset with Biden and every democrat behind the scene who’s pushing this. They are no better, in fact they are much worse, than Trump. At least he was willing to try to keep our country within a border, which is part of the definition of a country. He couldn’t even get help from idiots in his own party. Someday you’ll realize the unbelievable impact the millions of sick, trafficked, and mostly criminals there are roaming our country and stealing what is rightfully ours in healthcare education and safety because of him and his administration. It’s all part of their plan and it’s changed our country possibly forever. It breaks my heart.
No…nothing like this. Please study the border problem more closely. It’s too late for “root causes”. At this point, the national guard needs to be at the border and let no one else in. It’s out of control because Biden told the world to come, and they were on their way before the election! And no, KJP is wrong, they are not trying to clean up from the last admin like she loves to report. It’s so much worse than Trump left it.
It’s a feature, not a glitch. All part of Obama’s third term, which is why we are not witnessing “elder abuse”, we are witnessing the deliberate, planned destruction of America. The border is my #1 hot button issue and it will require military action. I hope Trump was serious about deportations at scale if he gets in. Evil is afoot and people need to wake the f up and call it what it is.
Nobody can save us from ourselves. We’ll get the leadership we deserve.
In my opinion, we got the government the cabal decided we would have.
Great point. Hilary was a slam dunk. It was going to be a landslide. She was the ideal marionette to advance the cabal’s global initiatives. Trump’s victory caught them and the establishment left with their pants down. His victory threw sand into the gears of the cabal and there would be hell to pay for it. They pulled and continue to pull out all the stops to regain control. It’s why we saw the press snap into line after 2016. Why we hear the dire “death to democracy” and “worse than Hitler” lines ad nauseam. It’s why instilling and promoting fear is rampant. The press is concerned about their role in “saving democracy” to the point they’ve abandoned all principles so as not to upset the people they work for.
Nov. 2024 is going to be ugly for America going forward. If you thought the last couple years were bad, buckle up.
Great post, I have buckled up since FJB came to unelected power, and yes I believe we are in for the ride of our lives and it’s not going to be pretty, however Americans are resilient we should be okay!
If Joe and his administration of dunces is good at one thing it is making enemies both around the world and at home. He’s the crotchety old man on the porch yelling at the neighbors.
Description is perfect!
We sure did in 2020! 2016 was a glitch nobody expected, and we know this because Hillary didn’t even think she needed to fully use her Steele dossier Russiagate hoax: she thought she had it in the bag.
Remember the way the press covered her loss? Her sadness over disappointing little girls? How she disappeared into the woods for a contemplative accounting of the soul, and then came back swinging? Bizarre.
She came back blaming Russia and everyone but herself. She’s truly the worst. I hope we’ve seen the last of Hillary. You know she’s looking for a way to swoop in and replace Biden on the ticket.
The Clingons never go away Mark much like the Kennedy’s and the Bushes, they believe they own America.
Hillary and Michelle, 2024...
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It could be. Do you vote? Because there would be no point in voting under the current system if you believe that to be true.
I do vote. It’s a cognitive dissonance that I’m learning to live with. I also believe in divine intervention, which would be useful at this point.
I simply cannot wrap my mind around how many good people I know who can bear up against the cognitive dissonance it requires for Trump to poll at 55% among conservatives. But, alas, it proves your statement.
I don’t know if it’s cognitive dissonance because he’s so full of contradictions it’s tough to pin him down. One thing he does do, guaranteed, is upset the status quo/kick the hornets nest. Which is enough for some. It’s interesting, though, that he went along with the initial flatten the curve stuff which undermines his alleged pro freedom position. I think the polls are failing to capture the other spectrum which is not left right but freedom vs authoritarianism.
I honestly think he was suckered into letting Birx and Fauci run the show by those around giving him advice. They were pretty “reputable” at the time. I don’t think he felt he had another choice, and if he did, that would’ve been the end of him for sure because those two were pretty popular at the time. That’s the only thing I can thing of to make sense of it. I was fooled by the two of them as well.
So was I! Nothing like Monday morning for armchair quarterbacks.
I voted libertarian in 2016 and thought for sure that pro-business, roaring economy Trump would know better than to try to shut down the economy and choke small businesses with the “curve flattening.” Boy, was I wrong. The buck stops with the boss and the boss agreed to it. Why are you giving him a pass? He failed.
You're forgetting there was very, very much unknown in the early days.
Trump acted the way anyone would and should have.
The election was less than 9 months after Covid blew up.
Despite the unknown, Sweden’s health czar said that societal lockdown for a respiratory virus had never been tried and that there could be negative downstream consequences. He also said it isn’t clear that it was legal for the federal government to shut things down like that. So they didn’t. Spoiler alert: it’s not legal in the US either, but nobody bothered to consider that because politicians can use emergency declarations for absolutely anything they want, and then renew those declarations until citizens manage to find a court to reaffirm our freedom (which is inherent). Devilish trick they played on us. I will never forget a single thing that led to our brush with authoritarianism.
Did you offer this comment anywhere in April of 2020?
Hindsight is always 20/20, isn't it?
Yes. On my Facebook account. Which I deleted when I saw people I love posting their vaccine cards online. Scared the hell out of me.
I hear you. The fools…so proud of themselves (eye roll).
The gov’t took advantage of people’s basic decency. And then the cult of the vax card emerged. It seemed like just when I thought things couldn’t get crazier, the next unimaginable thing would occur. No informed consent. Evil.
I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t think I’m giving him a pass as much as I felt it was his only option given every unique situation that was happening. They were ALL against him. Who stood by him during that time? Can you imagine the fake news outrage if he went against the beloved Birx and Fauci in the beginning? He would’ve been done, and I think he knew it. You could tell by his actions and his mood. All that said, I did become disappointed in a lot of how things went down with Covid. It basically lost his chances for reelection.
He could have brought in authors of the Great Barrington Declaration.
I’ve wondered about this, too—I seem to remember reading Bhattacharya et al saying they reached out to the administration, but I don’t remember when that was. But Ioannidis was definitely saying the numbers were inflated before Trump went ahead with lockdown. Where was his invitation to the White House?
This is true but they were treated so unfairly. Remember, the left fools were afraid to step outside without an N95! They would’ve lost it if Trump sided with them! I’m trying to look at this objectively but realize it may sound like I’m defending him. He was against all odds the way I saw it.
I haven’t been following-has he acknowledged that he blew it? Without blaming anyone but himself? That he, president and commander-in-chief, made a call, and that it was the wrong call? For me, there’d be no moving forward without it. What do you hope to see him accomplish if he gets another term?
Believe me, I don’t want another term of either of these two! But seriously, when has any politician admitted wrong doing? I’ve lost all trust in our politicians which is why I’m scared for future generations in my family. And no one made me feel better after watching them bicker last night. I think Desantis will stand strongest for our country and at least he kept his cool this time.
I hear ya, apologies aren’t in the nature of the political animal. But it’s necessary to show they understand the seriousness of it. The damage is incredible.
The more pressing question is the people who are just fine with a corrupt, senile imbecile befouling our Oval Office and creating chaos in our land.
Bruce, this discussion isn’t abt whether we prefer Trump to Biden, it’s abt Republicans finding a candidate with the chutzpah of Trump and still manages to be a decent human being. My understanding of Jolene’s original point was our leaders are a reflection of us/our culture, not the other way around. I, for one, sure wish we were better!
"it’s abt Republicans finding a candidate with the chutzpah of Trump and still manages to be a decent human being."
Name one. It certainly isn't the execrable Haley, Christie or Pence. DeSantis might have worked but his campaign is a bungled mess. And Vivek is just too young.
"DeSantis might have worked but his campaign is a bungled mess"
There is still a lot of time as far as news cycles and voter attention goes.
How about Jesus? Would Jesus do? I want a tough President who will be perfect in every way. And if can turn water into wine, all the better.
I think that was the point. We are going to get some form of crap, because that is what is on offer.
Several of them could end up being contenders, but aren't yet. Also, what does Vivek's age have to do with anything? Too young because you don't think people will vote for a young person?
Too young because there are life experiences that he has yet to experience. And, it is to be hoped, learned as a result.
I would rather be specific with what he is wrong about rather than a blanket statement. Based on that logic, Biden should be much wiser than he is. Lack of experience doesn't mean someone cannot understand a thing or make good choices about a thing.
It does. Witness how he changed his tone from the first debate to the second. He has ALOT to learn. Including that he isn’t as smart as he thinks…
Mrs.
Biden is way older and hasn't learned that he isn't as smart as he thinks.
My issue is that saying he is young doesn't actually tell what the issues you have with him are. It just sounds like bias, or a way to dismiss someone without actually saying anything. Saying "He has ALOT to learn" also doesn't say anything. That statement could easily apply to most of Washington.
1) He has not held elected office and learned how to work for his constituents and not himself.
2) He has not learned to listen before he interrupts.
3) He has not learned to behave with civility.
He is rude, he is arrogant, and he is not ready to lead this country.
These observations are not the result of bias, Mr. Sghoul. Knowing how to behave showing courtesy are common characteristics of maturity.
But these two things aren't mutually exclusive in any way. I just don't understand going with Trump again in 2024, though Barry Cooper above makes a good case I can only shake my head at what I see as a self-immolating choice. I also can't stand Biden at all and want to see him out of the Oval Office.
Yup-it’s lose/lose.
If Trump dismantles the administrative state - even a significant part of it - it is not a loss. It is, to the contrary, a huge victory for liberty and our Constitution.
Trump might not get a chance. The ultra MAGA lytes poor idiot McCarthy can’t control in the House might dismantle the state all by themselves. Government shutdown in days - no Social Security checks, no military pay, no funding for anything. Not even border security (how about that for irony?).
Isn’t this fun?
Will his dismantling of the administrative state resemble his draining of the swamp? Because he didn’t do that, either. I think our goose is cooked. We should look to family and immediate community of like-minded folks. The federal stuff has been imploding for a long time and this next election cycle will be ghastly. I’m not voting anymore, I’m done.
It's not going away if we continue to ignore it. Voting is so much easier than combat.
Regardless of whether or not we vote, it won’t go away. But to vote is to consent, particularly when election integrity is questionable.
Vote, but don't just vote. Work the polling place, make sure your precinct at least is honest.
Any voting machine that connects to the internet at any point can be hacked. And then there’s the mail-ins. Voting and volunteering won’t fix these vulnerabilities. But most importantly, I don’t want to choose between turds anymore. It’s beneath me. It’s beneath all of us.
I agree it's badly rigged in key states, but to not vote is to surrender in my humble opinion.
I never like the choices but still must exercise my only means of control, however suspect it may be.
I think it’s just an illusion of control. But it also might demonstrate that you still have some hope, which I appreciate. I’m pretty jaded.
I can’t even be upset with Biden because I really think it’s elder abuse. But, yeah, it’s painful to watch.
Biden has never been a good person. Trump may not be a good person either, but he was a better president.
Please start being upset with Biden and every democrat behind the scene who’s pushing this. They are no better, in fact they are much worse, than Trump. At least he was willing to try to keep our country within a border, which is part of the definition of a country. He couldn’t even get help from idiots in his own party. Someday you’ll realize the unbelievable impact the millions of sick, trafficked, and mostly criminals there are roaming our country and stealing what is rightfully ours in healthcare education and safety because of him and his administration. It’s all part of their plan and it’s changed our country possibly forever. It breaks my heart.
Our country has been undermined, by multiple administrations, for a very long time.
No…nothing like this. Please study the border problem more closely. It’s too late for “root causes”. At this point, the national guard needs to be at the border and let no one else in. It’s out of control because Biden told the world to come, and they were on their way before the election! And no, KJP is wrong, they are not trying to clean up from the last admin like she loves to report. It’s so much worse than Trump left it.
It’s a feature, not a glitch. All part of Obama’s third term, which is why we are not witnessing “elder abuse”, we are witnessing the deliberate, planned destruction of America. The border is my #1 hot button issue and it will require military action. I hope Trump was serious about deportations at scale if he gets in. Evil is afoot and people need to wake the f up and call it what it is.
Biden is actively subverting our immigration laws. That is not simple dereliction of duty. It is actively waging war against the United States.
For that if nothing else he should be impeached.