I can’t help myself. I MUST comment further, not on the content of the interview, but on its implications.
Bari, and Larry Summers, and the globalist cabal that have lost their collective minds over Trump and the people who voted for him are seemingly oblivious to the realities of those people. I assert, on intuition not data, that 99% …
I can’t help myself. I MUST comment further, not on the content of the interview, but on its implications.
Bari, and Larry Summers, and the globalist cabal that have lost their collective minds over Trump and the people who voted for him are seemingly oblivious to the realities of those people. I assert, on intuition not data, that 99% of Trump supporters are not enthralled by his personal traits, his hubris, his flamboyance, his narcissism. Rather, they see in him a (flawed) champion for the ethos that this country was formed upon: the rejection of potentates and kings, the determination to escape serfism, the right to self-determination, the striving for individual liberty and the creation of all men as equals.
Globalism is merely the cloak for a totalitarianism underwritten, ironically, by fabulous capitalist wealth. It is motivated by avarice, not altruism. It suppresses freedom and reduces the masses to statistics.
And its consequences will be the same as those over 200 years ago: revolt against oppression. As they say, history may not repeat itself, but it most surely does rhyme. And THIS will not be a verse of the nursery variety.
I wasn't gonna comment on this, because these comments are about done, and TGIF is here already. But I believe this statement deserved some attention:
"Rather, they see in him a (flawed) champion for the ethos that this country was formed upon: the rejection of potentates and kings..."
I go back to what You said above, Lady:
"99% of Trump supporters are not enthralled by his personal traits, his hubris, his flamboyance, his narcissism."
It's no where near 99%, but that's neither here nor there. The main point is that these qualities You correctly identified, are the exact qualities *of* a king. Trump was a TV star whose main talent, besides pushing people buttons, was to play the *role* of the President-King. Where what the country needs now is a Philosopher-King as of the old ages. (Biden? Pffffft.)
‘Twenty years in and around politics have left me sure of one thing. Most people’s ideological commitments are extraordinarily soft. What they think of as a belief is often a post-hoc rationalisation of a group loyalty. Crucially, this is more true, not less, of degree-holding, “high-information” voters.’
At any rate, I know that's true when I voted for Ds. The *vibe* the Ds give off is one of *great concern* for underdogs and like propositions. Poor people. Minorities. The environment. The little guys. I was just trying to make a living. Who had time to actually investigate? It was all about going with the tribe. Still is, to this day, right?
That's how You get a lotta people here who say they don't like Trump, but liked his policies. But the characteristics You ascribed to Trump shows that he's a man with the character of slime mold. And people like that care about *one* thing, and that's *themselves* above everything else. Does anybody actually think Trump cared about the people arrested on Jan. 6. I suppose some do. I'm not one-a them. And I've posted this quote from Trump:
"Are you talking about disinformation or are you talking about lies? There is a more beautiful word called disinformation.”
This is a guy who made a living off-a "disinformation" spewed out to friend and foe alike. "Stop the steal," because he was a sore loser. *All* the good he did is *erased* by that comment. And because he would *not* turn the power he *craved* over to the man who was elected.
There may be more to the “cult of personality” than I give credit to. I just don’t move in circles that could be described that way. But in the end, many of us are far worse off under the policies of today’s Dems, regardless of theirs and Trump’s personalities. And the luminaries of the party today seem much more elitist, far less the party ordinary folks. Republicans always were the country club snobs, but I don’t recall them being as anxious to crush the opposition with made-up Russian collusion hoaxes and the like.
In the end, I go back to the old wisecrack about politician and prostitution both starting with a “p.” Seems about right.
Biden plagiarized a college paper and a campaign speech. He changed positions to get re-elected. He sold his soul to the highest bidder! He has become a millionaire off taxpayers backs! Trump cares for the working stiffs! We know it!
It's just too bad that Trump strives to change certified election results that do not suit him and not conform to the dignified transfer of power that we in this country had always enjoyed - until now.
And what do we call someone who attempts to remain in power after being voted out?
To understand my comment, you first must read the comment I based my response to. In it, the writer expressed the thought that over 99% of Trump supporters disliked (a lot) some (most?) of his personal traits. Narcissism being one of them. But that he had brought some good stuff to the table and was a 'champion of the ethos'..
So, Critical, Lady in the Lake brought up Trump - and that's why I did too...
I remember Gore, as sitting Vice President, after losing in the Supreme Court, actually presiding over the ceremonial Electoral College count showing Bush to be the victor. Something like being at his own funeral.
There was no attempt made to find alternate electors.
Your right , that was in 2016 with electors. Followed by the Russia hoax to delegitimize the president elect , jail his advisers and maybe even jail him.
It's not so much about which are correct and which aren't. The point is that 95+% of them are all pretty much the same. And then a lot complain that *M. Bari* isn't bringing enough diversity!
It would be nice to read Mollie Hemingway or Victor Davis Hanson and such. I wouldn't want it to be all like that though and many of the commenters (I think) feel the same way.
I wouldn't mind. But the point is that M. Bari brings more diversity of views than the comments have. And mebbe she feels that, with the combination of the articles and the comments, all sides are pretty well represented. Dunno.
A bit on the rude side but anyway, one day your medicine yearly cost will be capped at $2000 and you'll enjoy it - long after you've forgotten this conversation..
Its safer to attack Trump and demean his supporters rather then address the real policy concerns such as catastrophic and foreign adventures and wealth transfers to the elite class.
I can’t help myself. I MUST comment further, not on the content of the interview, but on its implications.
Bari, and Larry Summers, and the globalist cabal that have lost their collective minds over Trump and the people who voted for him are seemingly oblivious to the realities of those people. I assert, on intuition not data, that 99% of Trump supporters are not enthralled by his personal traits, his hubris, his flamboyance, his narcissism. Rather, they see in him a (flawed) champion for the ethos that this country was formed upon: the rejection of potentates and kings, the determination to escape serfism, the right to self-determination, the striving for individual liberty and the creation of all men as equals.
Globalism is merely the cloak for a totalitarianism underwritten, ironically, by fabulous capitalist wealth. It is motivated by avarice, not altruism. It suppresses freedom and reduces the masses to statistics.
And its consequences will be the same as those over 200 years ago: revolt against oppression. As they say, history may not repeat itself, but it most surely does rhyme. And THIS will not be a verse of the nursery variety.
I wasn't gonna comment on this, because these comments are about done, and TGIF is here already. But I believe this statement deserved some attention:
"Rather, they see in him a (flawed) champion for the ethos that this country was formed upon: the rejection of potentates and kings..."
I go back to what You said above, Lady:
"99% of Trump supporters are not enthralled by his personal traits, his hubris, his flamboyance, his narcissism."
It's no where near 99%, but that's neither here nor there. The main point is that these qualities You correctly identified, are the exact qualities *of* a king. Trump was a TV star whose main talent, besides pushing people buttons, was to play the *role* of the President-King. Where what the country needs now is a Philosopher-King as of the old ages. (Biden? Pffffft.)
And I think there's a lotta truth in this article: "Everything is vibes and nothing is real" https://edwest.substack.com/p/everything-is-vibes-and-nothing-is Ed West quotes one Janan Ganesh:
‘Twenty years in and around politics have left me sure of one thing. Most people’s ideological commitments are extraordinarily soft. What they think of as a belief is often a post-hoc rationalisation of a group loyalty. Crucially, this is more true, not less, of degree-holding, “high-information” voters.’
At any rate, I know that's true when I voted for Ds. The *vibe* the Ds give off is one of *great concern* for underdogs and like propositions. Poor people. Minorities. The environment. The little guys. I was just trying to make a living. Who had time to actually investigate? It was all about going with the tribe. Still is, to this day, right?
That's how You get a lotta people here who say they don't like Trump, but liked his policies. But the characteristics You ascribed to Trump shows that he's a man with the character of slime mold. And people like that care about *one* thing, and that's *themselves* above everything else. Does anybody actually think Trump cared about the people arrested on Jan. 6. I suppose some do. I'm not one-a them. And I've posted this quote from Trump:
"Are you talking about disinformation or are you talking about lies? There is a more beautiful word called disinformation.”
This is a guy who made a living off-a "disinformation" spewed out to friend and foe alike. "Stop the steal," because he was a sore loser. *All* the good he did is *erased* by that comment. And because he would *not* turn the power he *craved* over to the man who was elected.
Mebbe I should "say," IMO. Mebbe not.
There may be more to the “cult of personality” than I give credit to. I just don’t move in circles that could be described that way. But in the end, many of us are far worse off under the policies of today’s Dems, regardless of theirs and Trump’s personalities. And the luminaries of the party today seem much more elitist, far less the party ordinary folks. Republicans always were the country club snobs, but I don’t recall them being as anxious to crush the opposition with made-up Russian collusion hoaxes and the like.
In the end, I go back to the old wisecrack about politician and prostitution both starting with a “p.” Seems about right.
Biden plagiarized a college paper and a campaign speech. He changed positions to get re-elected. He sold his soul to the highest bidder! He has become a millionaire off taxpayers backs! Trump cares for the working stiffs! We know it!
Yeah, I agree it's about right.
It's just too bad that Trump strives to change certified election results that do not suit him and not conform to the dignified transfer of power that we in this country had always enjoyed - until now.
And what do we call someone who attempts to remain in power after being voted out?
Do you have anything else to comment on? Maybe Melania's wardrobe?
It's embarrassing to see 'blue' jacket people's arguments continuously revert to a "But Trump"
Do you have a position on ANYTHING in the bill as relates to economics, or the betterment of Americans?
To understand my comment, you first must read the comment I based my response to. In it, the writer expressed the thought that over 99% of Trump supporters disliked (a lot) some (most?) of his personal traits. Narcissism being one of them. But that he had brought some good stuff to the table and was a 'champion of the ethos'..
So, Critical, Lady in the Lake brought up Trump - and that's why I did too...
Once again, Sir Lee, You confuse people with the facts of the matter. Will You never learn? That's just plain cruel on Your part.
Al gore?
I remember Gore, as sitting Vice President, after losing in the Supreme Court, actually presiding over the ceremonial Electoral College count showing Bush to be the victor. Something like being at his own funeral.
There was no attempt made to find alternate electors.
Your right , that was in 2016 with electors. Followed by the Russia hoax to delegitimize the president elect , jail his advisers and maybe even jail him.
Sir Lee, I gotta ask: Why You come in here and disrupt the echo chamber? For *shame.* For SHAME!
The article we all just went through was about the glories of the of the Inflation Reduction Act, take your echo chamber and stick it.
Actually, I should thank You for making my point: A while ago I compared the MAGAtites with the Woke. Both don't acknowledge inconvenient facts.
That You can't see these comments are pretty much an echo chamber indicates a level of willful ignorance only found at the extremes.
what about the comments critiquing summers are incorrect in this echo chamber?
It's not so much about which are correct and which aren't. The point is that 95+% of them are all pretty much the same. And then a lot complain that *M. Bari* isn't bringing enough diversity!
It would be nice to read Mollie Hemingway or Victor Davis Hanson and such. I wouldn't want it to be all like that though and many of the commenters (I think) feel the same way.
I wouldn't mind. But the point is that M. Bari brings more diversity of views than the comments have. And mebbe she feels that, with the combination of the articles and the comments, all sides are pretty well represented. Dunno.
Just what I would expect from You guys/gals.
A bit on the rude side but anyway, one day your medicine yearly cost will be capped at $2000 and you'll enjoy it - long after you've forgotten this conversation..
You're right. I'm guilty as charged..
Thanks for the levity..
I agree, globalist cover their actions in virtue, but their motivations are purely self enrichment.
Its safer to attack Trump and demean his supporters rather then address the real policy concerns such as catastrophic and foreign adventures and wealth transfers to the elite class.