I live less than an hour from the NIH and their Children's Inn. My grandmother volunteered there for years. Families come from all over the world with rare and debilitating conditions and diseases. They come to the NIH to participate in studies and to explore treatment options. These poor kids are in many cases very uncomfortable and in …
I live less than an hour from the NIH and their Children's Inn. My grandmother volunteered there for years. Families come from all over the world with rare and debilitating conditions and diseases. They come to the NIH to participate in studies and to explore treatment options. These poor kids are in many cases very uncomfortable and in need to serious help, that they can only get from a specialized team they are not living 'normal' lives in many cases. It should be the mission of NIH to treat and cure them of their disabilities. Furthermore, my niece has a cochlear implant. She's 11. She was born totally deaf because my sister contracted a dangerous virus while pregnant. My niece has been able to go to public school and enjoy music and lead a totally normal life and she can hear 'like everyone else.' I don't see how this is a bad thing. I think there is a difference perhaps in physical vs. Mental disabilities and maybe that's the nuance. I love that the world is beginning to embrace neurodiversity and people with Downs Syndrome, and recognizing how much independence can be achieved even with these limitations. I think this 'ableism' argument like everything else is going a bridge too far now.
Why do you think mental disabilities shouldn't be cured? If you had a kid with Down's syndrome, and there was some sort of cure, you'd rather that be celebrated instead of cured? You think non-verbal or low-verbal kids with autism wouldn't want to be cured? Maybe we should start taking away all the ADD medication, anxiety pills, and every other mental health treatment. What about therapy, maybe that needs to go the way of the dodo too so we can more fully embrace neurodiversity. Heck, let's just encourage people with agoraphobia to stay in their homes instead of trying to help them get over it.
"Ableism" and "neurodiversity" are the ultimate ivory towers of "privilege". It's morphed from "don't bully people for things they can't change, and make accommodations for them to live better lives" (obviously positive) to "stop encouraging people to improve things they *can* change" (extremely negative and dangerous -- or "toxic" to use the parlance of our times).
(I have a disability I'd rather not discuss here, but let's just say I'd be sickened if I went to a health professional and they had this attitude... guess that's the future of the world, though)
I didn’t read Jordyn’s comment the way you did as a need to celebrate cognitive disabilities rather than cure them. Not 20 years ago, many people terminated pregnancies based on a Downs diagnosis and there were often looks of pity or an avoidance of eye contact when seeing these children out in public. The inclusivity movement has had a positive impact on people’s perceptions of these disabilities and created an awareness that these lives are beautiful and just as worthy of life as others. Until there is a cure, this is not celebrating or leaning into disability as much as it is accepting what cannot be changed and making the most out of that life.
That is exactly what I meant. I'm only 35 but I've seen the tremendous difference between what I remember as a school aged child and what my young children have now. There is a greater kindness maybe, or a more tolerant sensiblilty for the kids who have mental/cognitive disabilities. I also know from firsthand experience, you can't order pregnancy like a menu, even with all the genetic testing and all the best prenatal care, things happen and sometimes your child has a disability you did not anticipate. That is tremendously challenging. For some parents I know they are afraid of aging because they wonder who will take care of there disabled child and work so hard to give them as much agency and independence as possible, but if course that's limited to their abilities. I was just saying that I think, I hope, the world is more forgiving on the mentally disabled, than they were 50 years ago.
Outstanding; you saved me from a bit of typing and expanded my thinking as well -- you "noticed" my grand daughter. "Ablism" is one totally toxic, first-world-originated neologism that should totally have its head held uder water until it stops moving.
I couldn't stop laughing at this video. No matter how hard the journalist tried, Mr. Poilievre wouldn't take the bait. He let the reporter continue to dig himself a deeper hole.
I live less than an hour from the NIH and their Children's Inn. My grandmother volunteered there for years. Families come from all over the world with rare and debilitating conditions and diseases. They come to the NIH to participate in studies and to explore treatment options. These poor kids are in many cases very uncomfortable and in need to serious help, that they can only get from a specialized team they are not living 'normal' lives in many cases. It should be the mission of NIH to treat and cure them of their disabilities. Furthermore, my niece has a cochlear implant. She's 11. She was born totally deaf because my sister contracted a dangerous virus while pregnant. My niece has been able to go to public school and enjoy music and lead a totally normal life and she can hear 'like everyone else.' I don't see how this is a bad thing. I think there is a difference perhaps in physical vs. Mental disabilities and maybe that's the nuance. I love that the world is beginning to embrace neurodiversity and people with Downs Syndrome, and recognizing how much independence can be achieved even with these limitations. I think this 'ableism' argument like everything else is going a bridge too far now.
Why do you think mental disabilities shouldn't be cured? If you had a kid with Down's syndrome, and there was some sort of cure, you'd rather that be celebrated instead of cured? You think non-verbal or low-verbal kids with autism wouldn't want to be cured? Maybe we should start taking away all the ADD medication, anxiety pills, and every other mental health treatment. What about therapy, maybe that needs to go the way of the dodo too so we can more fully embrace neurodiversity. Heck, let's just encourage people with agoraphobia to stay in their homes instead of trying to help them get over it.
"Ableism" and "neurodiversity" are the ultimate ivory towers of "privilege". It's morphed from "don't bully people for things they can't change, and make accommodations for them to live better lives" (obviously positive) to "stop encouraging people to improve things they *can* change" (extremely negative and dangerous -- or "toxic" to use the parlance of our times).
(I have a disability I'd rather not discuss here, but let's just say I'd be sickened if I went to a health professional and they had this attitude... guess that's the future of the world, though)
I didn’t read Jordyn’s comment the way you did as a need to celebrate cognitive disabilities rather than cure them. Not 20 years ago, many people terminated pregnancies based on a Downs diagnosis and there were often looks of pity or an avoidance of eye contact when seeing these children out in public. The inclusivity movement has had a positive impact on people’s perceptions of these disabilities and created an awareness that these lives are beautiful and just as worthy of life as others. Until there is a cure, this is not celebrating or leaning into disability as much as it is accepting what cannot be changed and making the most out of that life.
That is exactly what I meant. I'm only 35 but I've seen the tremendous difference between what I remember as a school aged child and what my young children have now. There is a greater kindness maybe, or a more tolerant sensiblilty for the kids who have mental/cognitive disabilities. I also know from firsthand experience, you can't order pregnancy like a menu, even with all the genetic testing and all the best prenatal care, things happen and sometimes your child has a disability you did not anticipate. That is tremendously challenging. For some parents I know they are afraid of aging because they wonder who will take care of there disabled child and work so hard to give them as much agency and independence as possible, but if course that's limited to their abilities. I was just saying that I think, I hope, the world is more forgiving on the mentally disabled, than they were 50 years ago.
Outstanding; you saved me from a bit of typing and expanded my thinking as well -- you "noticed" my grand daughter. "Ablism" is one totally toxic, first-world-originated neologism that should totally have its head held uder water until it stops moving.
There is a great clip of a Canadian candidate for Prime Minister absolutely destroying a Woke "journalist." Let me see if I can find it........
Here you go: https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1714276316382683511
THAT is how you handle these people. The back of your hand.
I couldn't stop laughing at this video. No matter how hard the journalist tried, Mr. Poilievre wouldn't take the bait. He let the reporter continue to dig himself a deeper hole.
I have to say: watching that clip is the most fun you can have with your pants on. Or, at my age, even with them off.
maybe he could coach Ron De Santis on how to be more appealing??
Ron DeSantis is a man that you have to look a his accomplishments and judge vs the stiff that he becomes at debates. Awesome governor!
That man (Pierre Poilievre) is a revelation. I wish he were running here. Common sense - what a revolutionary idea.