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Madjack's avatar

For a purportedly brilliant man he has WAY to much faith in Government.

First our elections are fraudulent and rigged

Second politicians come and go but the Administrative state is forever and unaccountable

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Someone's avatar

No, he told us the truth: Don't trust him!!!! That is not humor, not a joke. It was a slip and an admission of his own greed.

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Skinny's avatar

Madjack best comment here today.

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Pacificus's avatar

I saw the exact same shortcomings, Madjack.

Funny how naive super smart people can be about things outside the bounds of their expertise.

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Skinny's avatar

DonтАЩt believe itтАЩs naivety, think itтАЩs absolute power in a brain that doesnтАЩt understand responsibility and accountability unfortunately.

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Gold_Route's avatar

Hey Madjack, thanks for your thoughts on this one. IтАЩm curious to get your thoughts on why you think our elections are rigged? IтАЩm not trying to be condescending, just curious. Also, it does seem like the government has potential to bring some good to the table; even the internet, the tool you used to write your comment, was the by product of government ramp up via DARPA. I hope you have a good one today.

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Madjack's avatar

We have a long history of proven fraud in our elections. Tammany hall, Chicago, KC, 1948 Johnson senate election, 1960 Kennedy election. In 2020 this was placed on steroids by тАЬmail out ballotsтАЭ. Very open to fraud. Lots of ballots floating around.

The idea that the Dominion machines are not тАЬhackableтАЭ is hilarious. If so we need to import that tech to ALL our computers!! No more cyber crime!!

There were a number of unexplained unusual anomalies in 2020 to many to get into

Thank you for asking in such a kind and civil way!! Best wishes.

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Skinny's avatar

A kind and civil answer to GR to Madjack. I get the feeling however, that GR knew or knows the answer to our rigged election he really didnтАЩt have to get your input on it.

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LonesomePolecat's avatar

Nixon won the 1960 election. JFK and the ever corrupt LBJ screwed him out of it. Ballot boxes in Texas went missing for days and then magically appeared.

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Madjack's avatar

A great story I read from Scleshinger(a Kennedy acolyte). He was in Chicago election night. The downstate vote came in heavily for Nixon. Schlesinger was crestfallen but the men around him jubilant. He asked why? They replied, тАЬnow we have a numberтАЭ. Kennedy won Illinois and the election

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Skinny's avatar

Yip ЁЯТп correct!

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Gold_Route's avatar

Appreciate you replying back! I donтАЩt know enough about Tammany Hall and the Kennedy election - time to brush up on my history a bit more. Regarding the mail in ballots and the voting machines, do you think it possible that just because these systems are susceptible to fraud, doesnтАЩt necessarily mean that they were used to fraudulent ends? Thanks again!

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Madjack's avatar

It is definitely within the realm of possibility that they are not used for fraudulent ends. However people are highly motivated to elective office due to the huge concentration of power and money that is involved. We should make every effort to insure are elections are free and fair, that all voters have an equal and unfettered right to vote. We should eliminate/minimize all avenues for fraud.

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Gold_Route's avatar

Now that is something everyone should be able to agree on and should be a central focus of our democracy moving forward.

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Pacificus's avatar

yes, as of now (and periodically throughout our history) US elections are "rigged" in determining the outcome. We need to say it again and again until real changes are made to the electoral process.

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Skinny's avatar

God do we need it now, before Facebook and ChatGPT get hold of the 2024 elections. America has been captured by the left and the corporations, itтАЩs time to really stand up and be counted come 2024, we canтАЩt afford to allow the Democrats to continue on this destructive path.

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Madjack's avatar

One person one vote one time. Minimize mail in ballots. Shorten voting to no more then a week. Every fraudulent vote counted is a vote stolen from a citizen.

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J Tolliver's avatar

Have you seen an actual statistics from any election board anywhere that says how they were going to and did sample/test any past election to assure it's results. No? I haven't. Every major corporation has a quality plan that states how they will inspect/test/sample their products AND how it will document that those procedures were followed(includes products and services). Election boards are all local but on national level we need to get congress to require this of all election boards. It is almost impossible to find evidence of fraud particularly if you don't look. Proving vote is valid is only workable solution.

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LonesomePolecat's avatar

I have said this before. When I die, I want to be buried either in Chicago or Louisiana so I can continue to vote.

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Skinny's avatar

ЁЯШВЁЯШВЁЯШВgosh that was funny!

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Stephanie Lyons's avatar

Yes, and way too much faith in тАЬhumanityтАЭ regulating itself. I always share this example of good ideas turned bad by humans: Bird/Lime scootersтАж on a trip to San Diego a few years ago we saw scooters everywhere. Literally thrown all over the sidewalks, blocking curb cuts for strollers and wheelchairs, being used by homeless people to make shelters on the sidewalksтАж basically looking like really large, expensive litter on the streets. They were just everywhere. TheyтАЩre great as an idea, but humans ruin it by not taking care of them and putting them in their proper places. Same with social media. There are some benefits (connecting with people who like knitting, for example) but also way more downsides (connecting people who want to bully and harass, or worse, commit acts of terrorism).

If youтАЩre leaving this technology up to the government or other humans to decide whatтАЩs тАЬtoo farтАЭ weтАЩre in big trouble.

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