"In an effort to counter Russian disinformation, the FBI actively allowed American disinformation to spread."
It wasn't an effort to counter disinformation. It was a succesful effort to swing an election in favor a lifelong politician, the very type of politician whose incompetence, entitlement, and corruption fueled the rise of Trump in …
"In an effort to counter Russian disinformation, the FBI actively allowed American disinformation to spread."
It wasn't an effort to counter disinformation. It was a succesful effort to swing an election in favor a lifelong politician, the very type of politician whose incompetence, entitlement, and corruption fueled the rise of Trump in the first place.
This mass public disenchantment with our political establishment and government institutions is further fueld by a media in bed with the Deep State actors. The kind of media that will take a story like this and use it as an example of how the Deep State really isn't all that bad because, after all, a couple people spoke up (nevermind that they've already been fully disowned by the Democratic party and ignored by the mainstream media) so how bad can it really be?
After 5 LONG years of so called investigations (+ for the last year my asking TFP to “at least mention” the Biden Crimes/Hunter laptop), to FINALLY come out with THIS??!!!
And the author saying, to the effect, “What Hunter did to the Biden GOOD NAME” + Does he really believe the system is working, because of some whistleblowers FINALLY came forward?! Men who, by the way, are now having their reputations & livelihoods ruined!
Where is outrage from anyone on the Left??!! And when it comes from the Right, “Well, there goes those MAGA, White Supremacist, Conspiracy Theorists, Ignorant Deplorable Election Deniers! Censor them, or LOCK ‘EM UP”
Sorry for ranting, but I beyond frustrated & angry!
agree- the Biden “good name” is a joke. He was always an obtuse, racist, arrogant, SOB using dirty tactics to achieve his ends. I laughed when Obama chose him as VP for his “foreign policy experience,” and I laugh now that ignorant people hate Trump so much that they voted for this self-dealing establishment turd. What a joke.
I agree that much of this is driven or heightened by the media's, the political establishments', and the government institutions' intense hatred of Trump. Period. While I have concerns about the Deep State in general, I wonder how much of this situation is being exacerbated by widespread anti-Trump fervor.
Remember that the Democratic party's semi-official plan for the upcoming 2024 presidential election is to run senile, inept Joe Biden against Trump -- relying their friends in the media and their friends in government agencies to continue to fuel the anti-Trump sentiments and ride them to victory while Biden hides in his basement. Biden certainly can't win based on his successes. Why isn't there a single legitimate, mainstream Democratic challenger lining up against Biden in anticipation of primaries that theoretically will be kicking off in approximately 6 months?
JD, NO legitimate Democrat exist, EXCEPT RFK Jr, and now that he dares to run against “the most popular President ever” the WOKE Left is out to destroy him!
YES, you are correct, they despise Trump and are “ear up with TDS”but they are now treating RFK Jr and DeSantis the same as they’ve treated Trump!
RFK Jr has now taken the #1 spot as, “The biggest threat to Democracy” with DeSantis not far behind!
Of course, the Left is as terrified of RFK Jr as they are of Trump, simply because they aren’t lifelong politicians, and they are going against the WOKE narrative! If they can’t be controlled, they must be destroyed”
Now that the media's, political establishments and deep state's tactics have worked against Trump they will be deployed against any Republican candidate in 2024 and beyond - count on it.
The attacks on Casey DeSantis are especially disgusting and disappointing.
In the meantime, the mainstream media has given "Dr." Jill Biden a complete pass. Her dissertation is a tepid re-hash of existing information, with virtually no original research or thought. Her use of the title "Doctor" is an insult to anyone who went to med school or who earned a doctoral degree in a technical field.
Eli "the system is working" Lake means, "it's working to keep us in power and spread our lies with impunity. Look, I begrudgingly wrote this article that wouldn't have existed without the Republicans I oppose, that demonstrates how honest I am."
And anyone else that gets in their way - D or R, they don’t actually care. They’ll take out RFK (or any other Dem candidate) just as quickly as any Republican challenger.
(And I have no doubt they’ll do it literally if they need to.)
There is a legitimate challenger, Robert Kennedy Jr, but the mainstream media is doing all they can to discredit him. Fortunately, there are ways he is getting his message out through long-form podcasts. It is refreshing to hear that there is at least one honest person left in the Democratic Party.
You're really going to dismiss him over one issue, while ignoring the many other more important issues on which he stands (eg, anti-MIC, anti-agency corruption, pro-medical freedom, anti-censorship, pro-environment, anti-drug war, anti-US interventionism, pro-whistleblower rights, pro-revitalizing the middle class, pro-uniting US citizenry, pro-foreign relations)?
The New York Times has previously written whole pieces on RFK Jr where he was not called for comment and, when he asked to have a letter published in reply, it was declined. This violates all previous standards of good journalism. Not sure who is making these decisions, but the paper is destroying an institution which had an honorable and important function. Great job!
Robert Kennedy Jr is the future of the Democratic party, if people stop listening to slander and misleading statements about him. He's more intelligent and honest than any politician I've heard in decades. He gives me hope for the future.
THIS! They never report on this because they don't want to be invited to the cool kids cocktail parties or they never took math where 2 + 2 = 4. I can't think of another explanation. Honestly (where did I hear that word before), why don't journalists never answer this question? I'd like to see them try to answer it.
Do you think the motive might have been to swing the election? Especially since they BURIED the evidence forever!
Good point- it kinda reminds me of Jim Jones, the Cult Leader & Civil Rights Activist who said he "Loved Socialism". He convinced 900+ people to commit suicide.
What you describe is not Biden - but the Biden Machine- a whole artillery of Tech, Media, Govt, Activists, FBI, who "told " those 80 million people WHAT TO THINK & WHAT TO DO. Basically the same Psychological Weakness.
You know, I think there is a machine all right but it’s not the “Biden” machine, it’s simply the DNC. Biden was their chosen figurehead, simply because they perceived him as the most manageable and perhaps electable. Now they know they stepped in dog doo and are gonna scramble around for someone else to get out of the mess. Evil machinations afoot from them forever!
Remember the old "you got your peanut butter in my chocolate" commercials for Reese's Peanut Butter Cups? That is what I imagine when I think of the Biden machine getting involved with the DNC machine; the Biden grifters were a low-tech bunch of grifters selling influence purely for their personal enrichment. That the DNC actually selected Joetato, they saw an opportunity to expand the family business which is now ironically throwing the DNC machine off the rails and scrambling for another candidate like The Hair from CA.
VERY important to note that these truths are only coming out because Republicans have the House. Without that, Democrats would still be denying all of it, like their comically corrupt media outlets are currently doing.
Eli and his ilk are going to pretend the truth is coming out because the "system is working" knowing full well their Party has been doing everything it can to prevent the system from working, and would have succeeded if not for those pesky evangelical voters.
“Eli and his ilk are going to pretend the truth is coming out because the "system is working" knowing full well their Party has been doing everything it can to prevent the system from working...”
Lake is very much a conservative. I also find his conclusion vexing — the system is working...for whom? — but he’s no democrat.
Lake is no conservative, and he's also no fool. He sees his colleagues in the media falling all over each other in a desperate attempt to defend the indefensible, and he wants to avoid being tarred with the same brush. It's called self-preservation.
Hmm. Interesting point. I respectfully disagree but, being a cynic, I’m open to the possibility that you’re right about EL and his motives.
By the way, does anyone else find that while reading TFP on the Substack app, clicking on the notification does not take one directly to the comment, and it’s necessary to scroll though to find it? I don’t have this problem with other pages.
You nailed it. I've been telling my left & right leaning friends for almost 3 years that the 2020 election was interfered with by two groups primarily. It was never drop boxes, mail in ballots or hacked voting machines.......it was the leadership in the government alphabet agencies and the main stream media. As a result, both of these groups have pulled big tech into the scheme. Its why today, public trust in both are right up there with that of congress.
In actuality it was also drop boxes and vote harvesting in retirement homes with residents too far into dementia to vote. Perhaps a reason why we have a president too far into dementia to govern?
Well, sure. Why else scream and get an injunction to block enforcement of the “no contact with the censors” ruling? That’s the action of a desperate group that sees itself losing power. Once the lights are on, the roaches scurry for cover. These jokers want the lights to stay out. Forever.
"In an effort to counter Russian disinformation, the FBI actively allowed American disinformation to spread."
It wasn't an effort to counter disinformation. It was a succesful effort to swing an election in favor a lifelong politician, the very type of politician whose incompetence, entitlement, and corruption fueled the rise of Trump in the first place.
This mass public disenchantment with our political establishment and government institutions is further fueld by a media in bed with the Deep State actors. The kind of media that will take a story like this and use it as an example of how the Deep State really isn't all that bad because, after all, a couple people spoke up (nevermind that they've already been fully disowned by the Democratic party and ignored by the mainstream media) so how bad can it really be?
Totally agree, Pemulis!
After 5 LONG years of so called investigations (+ for the last year my asking TFP to “at least mention” the Biden Crimes/Hunter laptop), to FINALLY come out with THIS??!!!
And the author saying, to the effect, “What Hunter did to the Biden GOOD NAME” + Does he really believe the system is working, because of some whistleblowers FINALLY came forward?! Men who, by the way, are now having their reputations & livelihoods ruined!
Where is outrage from anyone on the Left??!! And when it comes from the Right, “Well, there goes those MAGA, White Supremacist, Conspiracy Theorists, Ignorant Deplorable Election Deniers! Censor them, or LOCK ‘EM UP”
Sorry for ranting, but I beyond frustrated & angry!
agree- the Biden “good name” is a joke. He was always an obtuse, racist, arrogant, SOB using dirty tactics to achieve his ends. I laughed when Obama chose him as VP for his “foreign policy experience,” and I laugh now that ignorant people hate Trump so much that they voted for this self-dealing establishment turd. What a joke.
Take a pill. Settle down with a cool drink and be like me calm, cool and relaxed. You know me. I never, ever rant.
I'm the voice of calm and reason.
This. THANK you.
I agree that much of this is driven or heightened by the media's, the political establishments', and the government institutions' intense hatred of Trump. Period. While I have concerns about the Deep State in general, I wonder how much of this situation is being exacerbated by widespread anti-Trump fervor.
Remember that the Democratic party's semi-official plan for the upcoming 2024 presidential election is to run senile, inept Joe Biden against Trump -- relying their friends in the media and their friends in government agencies to continue to fuel the anti-Trump sentiments and ride them to victory while Biden hides in his basement. Biden certainly can't win based on his successes. Why isn't there a single legitimate, mainstream Democratic challenger lining up against Biden in anticipation of primaries that theoretically will be kicking off in approximately 6 months?
JD, NO legitimate Democrat exist, EXCEPT RFK Jr, and now that he dares to run against “the most popular President ever” the WOKE Left is out to destroy him!
YES, you are correct, they despise Trump and are “ear up with TDS”but they are now treating RFK Jr and DeSantis the same as they’ve treated Trump!
RFK Jr has now taken the #1 spot as, “The biggest threat to Democracy” with DeSantis not far behind!
Of course, the Left is as terrified of RFK Jr as they are of Trump, simply because they aren’t lifelong politicians, and they are going against the WOKE narrative! If they can’t be controlled, they must be destroyed”
Now that the media's, political establishments and deep state's tactics have worked against Trump they will be deployed against any Republican candidate in 2024 and beyond - count on it.
The attacks on Casey DeSantis are especially disgusting and disappointing.
In the meantime, the mainstream media has given "Dr." Jill Biden a complete pass. Her dissertation is a tepid re-hash of existing information, with virtually no original research or thought. Her use of the title "Doctor" is an insult to anyone who went to med school or who earned a doctoral degree in a technical field.
Eli "the system is working" Lake means, "it's working to keep us in power and spread our lies with impunity. Look, I begrudgingly wrote this article that wouldn't have existed without the Republicans I oppose, that demonstrates how honest I am."
Lol.
And anyone else that gets in their way - D or R, they don’t actually care. They’ll take out RFK (or any other Dem candidate) just as quickly as any Republican challenger.
(And I have no doubt they’ll do it literally if they need to.)
There is a legitimate challenger, Robert Kennedy Jr, but the mainstream media is doing all they can to discredit him. Fortunately, there are ways he is getting his message out through long-form podcasts. It is refreshing to hear that there is at least one honest person left in the Democratic Party.
RFK? The guy who just a week ago gave a full throated defense of affirmative action? No thanks.
You're really going to dismiss him over one issue, while ignoring the many other more important issues on which he stands (eg, anti-MIC, anti-agency corruption, pro-medical freedom, anti-censorship, pro-environment, anti-drug war, anti-US interventionism, pro-whistleblower rights, pro-revitalizing the middle class, pro-uniting US citizenry, pro-foreign relations)?
The New York Times has previously written whole pieces on RFK Jr where he was not called for comment and, when he asked to have a letter published in reply, it was declined. This violates all previous standards of good journalism. Not sure who is making these decisions, but the paper is destroying an institution which had an honorable and important function. Great job!
Robert Kennedy Jr is the future of the Democratic party, if people stop listening to slander and misleading statements about him. He's more intelligent and honest than any politician I've heard in decades. He gives me hope for the future.
I wish! I would vote Democrat if it came to him vs Trump.
There’s no such thing as an honest politician. None. Not even a tiny one.
'The Outsider' wrote "honest person" because RFK Jr is not a politician. Which is a big part of what makes him so appealing.
THIS! They never report on this because they don't want to be invited to the cool kids cocktail parties or they never took math where 2 + 2 = 4. I can't think of another explanation. Honestly (where did I hear that word before), why don't journalists never answer this question? I'd like to see them try to answer it.
Do you think the motive might have been to swing the election? Especially since they BURIED the evidence forever!
Now, KP, we all know Biden is SO well known & popular he got 81 million votes, while never leaving his basement to campaign!
He IS the most popular President in the history of our country!
Good point- it kinda reminds me of Jim Jones, the Cult Leader & Civil Rights Activist who said he "Loved Socialism". He convinced 900+ people to commit suicide.
What you describe is not Biden - but the Biden Machine- a whole artillery of Tech, Media, Govt, Activists, FBI, who "told " those 80 million people WHAT TO THINK & WHAT TO DO. Basically the same Psychological Weakness.
You know, I think there is a machine all right but it’s not the “Biden” machine, it’s simply the DNC. Biden was their chosen figurehead, simply because they perceived him as the most manageable and perhaps electable. Now they know they stepped in dog doo and are gonna scramble around for someone else to get out of the mess. Evil machinations afoot from them forever!
Yes, "Biden-Machine" & " DNC-Machine" , one in the same.
Remember the old "you got your peanut butter in my chocolate" commercials for Reese's Peanut Butter Cups? That is what I imagine when I think of the Biden machine getting involved with the DNC machine; the Biden grifters were a low-tech bunch of grifters selling influence purely for their personal enrichment. That the DNC actually selected Joetato, they saw an opportunity to expand the family business which is now ironically throwing the DNC machine off the rails and scrambling for another candidate like The Hair from CA.
Not a joke!
VERY important to note that these truths are only coming out because Republicans have the House. Without that, Democrats would still be denying all of it, like their comically corrupt media outlets are currently doing.
Eli and his ilk are going to pretend the truth is coming out because the "system is working" knowing full well their Party has been doing everything it can to prevent the system from working, and would have succeeded if not for those pesky evangelical voters.
“Eli and his ilk are going to pretend the truth is coming out because the "system is working" knowing full well their Party has been doing everything it can to prevent the system from working...”
Lake is very much a conservative. I also find his conclusion vexing — the system is working...for whom? — but he’s no democrat.
Interesting. I appreciate that context.
Lake is no conservative, and he's also no fool. He sees his colleagues in the media falling all over each other in a desperate attempt to defend the indefensible, and he wants to avoid being tarred with the same brush. It's called self-preservation.
Hmm. Interesting point. I respectfully disagree but, being a cynic, I’m open to the possibility that you’re right about EL and his motives.
By the way, does anyone else find that while reading TFP on the Substack app, clicking on the notification does not take one directly to the comment, and it’s necessary to scroll though to find it? I don’t have this problem with other pages.
Christopher, hit the "return to thread" link to get to the place you want to be without having to scroll.
Yes, that’s a crucial point.
You nailed it. I've been telling my left & right leaning friends for almost 3 years that the 2020 election was interfered with by two groups primarily. It was never drop boxes, mail in ballots or hacked voting machines.......it was the leadership in the government alphabet agencies and the main stream media. As a result, both of these groups have pulled big tech into the scheme. Its why today, public trust in both are right up there with that of congress.
In actuality it was also drop boxes and vote harvesting in retirement homes with residents too far into dementia to vote. Perhaps a reason why we have a president too far into dementia to govern?
Support the police. Defund the Democrats.
All of the above and more. A fraudulent election
My retired structural engineer admitted to me he voted for Biden for his wife - who is in memory care.
That's admitting to a crime. Report him.
When these crimes don't get reported, the people they support get to say it never happened.
He died a few months ago.
“… public trust in both are right up there with that of congress.”
Evans, I think you meant to write “…right ~down~ there with…congress.”
Don’t leave out big tech. They are still censoring, banning and filtering to favor Democrats… the establishment ruling-class party.
Well, sure. Why else scream and get an injunction to block enforcement of the “no contact with the censors” ruling? That’s the action of a desperate group that sees itself losing power. Once the lights are on, the roaches scurry for cover. These jokers want the lights to stay out. Forever.
You are correct, but its Monday morning.....I'm trying to be a little bit positive. :-)
‘Nuff said.