Keeping an open mind, avoiding dogmatism is a path worth following. Seeking truth.
Mr Douthat you may not recall but both Biden and Harris questioned the vaccines very early. You may want to check the demographics of who questions/refuses the vaccine.
Keeping an open mind, avoiding dogmatism is a path worth following. Seeking truth.
Mr Douthat you may not recall but both Biden and Harris questioned the vaccines very early. You may want to check the demographics of who questions/refuses the vaccine.
No, they questioned the vaccine and the people developing it. It looks like you are carrying on the long tradition of revisionist history and lying the Democrats are so famous for (Ref: The Russia/Trump collusion the DNC/HRC and Democratic Media fabricated by making up the Russian Alpha Back server connection and Steele Dossier which led to 18 months of nightly news of "The Walls are closing in").
I posted the relevant quotes and background information elsewhere on this thread. I invite you read it. They did not question the vaccine or people developing it. They said they wouldn't get the vaccine on solely on Trump's word it was safe, they would wait for the experts to say so.
The revisionist history in this case is yours, not mine. Speaking of which, you have the nerve to say "revisionist history and lying the Democrats are so famous for" after four years of Trump? Dream on.
Please try to have a bit of intellectual honesty. They both purposely created doubt about the vaccines. I myself have some doubt about the vaccines. I took them but wonтАЩt be sure for years if it was the correct thing to do. I can live with gray.
Intellectual honesty? They created doubt about Trump, not the vaccine. That's politics. You think what Biden and Harris said made otherwise-game people think, "Yikes, I was gonna but now I won't?" Not hardly. My decision wasn't swayed by Biden, Harris, or Trump, and I assume yours wasn't, either.
I put off the jab until I decided the upsides outweighed the downsides. I got the J&J, and will get the Moderna booster this afternoon. Political utterances pro and anti were, and remain, meaningless.
Madjack...the word "dogmatism" gets tricky for me, good /bad.
How could Anyone point to the Republicans being the "anti vaccine" people, after Joe/Harris being so anti vaccine in their comments before the election. this guy (Dothat) is a reporter...no wonder, confusion.
The statements weren't anti-vaccine, they were anti-Trump. Biden and Harris clearly said they would get the vaccine when science said it was safe to do so, but would not get it solely because Trump said so. That's politics in an election year. Do I like it? No. Do I like that Trump withheld from the public the lethality of Covid so as not to "make anyone panic," as he told Bob Woodward? Also no.
Keeping an open mind, avoiding dogmatism is a path worth following. Seeking truth.
Mr Douthat you may not recall but both Biden and Harris questioned the vaccines very early. You may want to check the demographics of who questions/refuses the vaccine.
They didn't question vaccines. They only questioned whether Trump's insisting a vaccine was safe meant anything, given his lifelong career of lying.
No, they questioned the vaccine and the people developing it. It looks like you are carrying on the long tradition of revisionist history and lying the Democrats are so famous for (Ref: The Russia/Trump collusion the DNC/HRC and Democratic Media fabricated by making up the Russian Alpha Back server connection and Steele Dossier which led to 18 months of nightly news of "The Walls are closing in").
I posted the relevant quotes and background information elsewhere on this thread. I invite you read it. They did not question the vaccine or people developing it. They said they wouldn't get the vaccine on solely on Trump's word it was safe, they would wait for the experts to say so.
The revisionist history in this case is yours, not mine. Speaking of which, you have the nerve to say "revisionist history and lying the Democrats are so famous for" after four years of Trump? Dream on.
Please try to have a bit of intellectual honesty. They both purposely created doubt about the vaccines. I myself have some doubt about the vaccines. I took them but wonтАЩt be sure for years if it was the correct thing to do. I can live with gray.
Intellectual honesty? They created doubt about Trump, not the vaccine. That's politics. You think what Biden and Harris said made otherwise-game people think, "Yikes, I was gonna but now I won't?" Not hardly. My decision wasn't swayed by Biden, Harris, or Trump, and I assume yours wasn't, either.
I put off the jab until I decided the upsides outweighed the downsides. I got the J&J, and will get the Moderna booster this afternoon. Political utterances pro and anti were, and remain, meaningless.
WS...hay, that comes from the same school , Rachel Haymow attended
No, it didn't. I quoted Harris and Biden accurately. How you interpret what they said is entirely up to you.
Madjack...the word "dogmatism" gets tricky for me, good /bad.
How could Anyone point to the Republicans being the "anti vaccine" people, after Joe/Harris being so anti vaccine in their comments before the election. this guy (Dothat) is a reporter...no wonder, confusion.
The statements weren't anti-vaccine, they were anti-Trump. Biden and Harris clearly said they would get the vaccine when science said it was safe to do so, but would not get it solely because Trump said so. That's politics in an election year. Do I like it? No. Do I like that Trump withheld from the public the lethality of Covid so as not to "make anyone panic," as he told Bob Woodward? Also no.
WS...Harris "Not if it is a Trumpty Vax" so said the Harris girl, ditto Joey boy. Oh...they can (did) change what they did say...very sad, i agree.
Elsewhere on this thread I quoted Harris and Biden's exact words, and provided a link. What you say here is not what they said.