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Adrienne Scott's avatar

Thank you for publishing this excellent article. I am proud to call myself an old-school liberal and feminist. To me, "women" like Lia Thomas and her many activist supporters are simply exercising standard male privilege by insisting their rights are more important than actual natal women.

Transgender individuals deserve equal rights under the law but they do not deserve the "privilege" of athletic scholarships designed for cis women.

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Steven N.'s avatar

I agree with you this is a good article but STRONGLY disagree this is “supporters are simply exercising standard male privilege by insisting their rights are more important than actual natal women.”

Most of the support is coming from women and feminists. Saying this is “exercising male privilege” is simply moral exculpation to remove your culpability in this mess as a feminist.

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Gail Finke's avatar

"Natal women" -- give me a break. And Steven N you are correct -- very few men (other than the ones who think they are women) seem to support this. WOMEN are propping them up because they feel sorry for them. It's 100% possible to feel sorry for troubled people without lying to and about them, and taking away the rights of everyone else.

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Naomi's avatar

You are right. I have not seen any male support for men competing as women in women's sports, except maybe from the Woke commentators on ESPN.

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Wally's avatar

Most men know what it means to have testosterone pumping through your blood since about age 12 and how utterly unfair it is for biological men to compete with women. For a male to decide he wants to identify as a woman is one thing, but to then think that person needs to go compete in athletics with females in order to somehow fulfill a sense of self is completely off the rails.

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Naomi's avatar

I was always suspicious of "feminism." I grew up with the movement. The only good I ever noticed was men became more circumspect about sexual predation at work.

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QX's avatar

Please. Stop using nonsense terms like "cis". There's no such thing. Nobody is a cyst.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

And there's no such thing as "gender" or "transgender." There is sex and there are people who pretend to be the opposite sex. They should have no more rights than any other citizen. We must not reorganize our entire society just to cater to the demands of a tiny subset of emotionally disturbed people.

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WanderingWonderer's avatar

You mention 'male privilege' and then mention the 'privilege' of athletic scholarship designed for 'cis women'. You almost got it.

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jt's avatar

They also don't "deserve" to confined with True Women in prison cells, like they do in CA. CA's so-called "solution:" "You just need to fight them," and handing out *condoms.* Sort-a blows the whole theory that there's only other women going in there right outta the water!

There's a lawsuit against that, but it's facing the full power of the State, so outcome unknowable.

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Laura kelly's avatar

I think that suit is being brought by WOLF, Women's Liberation Front--you can donate to their fund at womensliberationfront.org. Every little bit helps.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

Yes. WoLF is a great group. Women's Declaration International, too. Both are working hard to protect women's sex based rights.

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jt's avatar

TY. GREAT POINT! (I already a while back.)

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Lynne Morris's avatar

It is not just Cali. My formerly very conservative county houses people in a county jail administered by a very conservative sheriff by how the inmate identify their gender.

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Gail Finke's avatar

That is outrageous.

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DarkWhite's avatar

To be honest, a lot of this whole trans nonsense lines up with ultra-right wing MRAs. "If you bitches want to take men's jobs, then fine -- we'll wear dresses and rape you. You made us do it."

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Steven N.'s avatar

Ummmm. No it doesn’t.

This is the end result of what modern feminism brings.

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Gail Finke's avatar

Um, no. It doesn't.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

Some no doubt but I think those types are truly marginalized. I think most men and most women and those in between realize we need each other. When I was young we talked about the rat race. As I grow old I am.experiencing first hand what that means. People are crazy. Way too many people.

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Laura kelly's avatar

I just read an account of a trans "man" in Britain who spent two years in the men's prison despite begging for a transfer to the women's. That certainly seems like spiteful retaliation to me--"You think you're a man? This is what you get." So trans "women" are treated like queens and trans "men" are tormented and laughed at.

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

If I were in a woman’s prison and they allowed men who say they are women in, the first thing I’d do is organize my fellow prisoners to give that guy exactly what he purports to want, no penis or balls. They’d only have to do it to one or two and then the pipeline would stop.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

Where is Lorena Bobbitt when we need her.

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jt's avatar

Yeah, if we could clone her, problem solved. ;)

Clone?!? WORST idea EVER!!

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jt's avatar

Close, but no cigar. What they do is group themselves to maintain a watch during the nights. But either way, women have ended up raped and with a number of pregnancies.

The only wonder I have is how are "they" keeping it so quiet. Sheesh. Just answered my own question. What media would take the time to find out, for one? For another, what media tells anything approaching reality?

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Oh I think it could be done.

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jt's avatar

And then get strung up? No good options all the way around, AFAIK.

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

You realize they are already in prison.

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jt's avatar

You know what happens when they go so far as just to *complain* about all-a it? What I "heard," anyway, was that they lost their time off for good behavior.

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