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Lightwing's avatar

This is an extreme stance that you need to back up with evidence.

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vernon's avatar

"the insistence of "progressive" Democrats that the filmed rape of children is "free speech"

I haven't heard anyone say this, but maybe it just hasn't surfaced for me. Who said this?

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Shane Gericke's avatar

I haven't heard that, either, and I asked Penny Adrian to back up this rather mindboggling accusation. I know of NO ONE left or right who approves of kiddy diddling, rape, or videotaping, let alone advocating for its legal protection.

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Steven N.'s avatar

You have never heard of MAP? Minor Attracted Person.

Heck, half of Hollywood/music industry seem to support kiddy fiddling based on the Oscars applauding тАЬgay gay gayтАЭ because Florida thinks itтАЩs inappropriate to teach kindergarten kids how to тАЭself pleasureтАЭ.

Saying NO ONE on the left supports this is outright lying.

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Shane Gericke's avatar

Okay, fair point, I stand corrected on my absolutism. I'm sure SOME on the Left love raping children. So do SOME on the Right, in the Center, and from every walk of life. Epstein's Pervert Island proves the point: he and his friends were equal-opportunity kiddy diddlers or enablers.

But "gay" is not "support kiddy fiddling," and no, half of Hollywood would NOT support child trafficking. That broad brush tars too many people.

Kids don't need to be taught to self-pleasure; we figured that out on our own :-)

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Steven N.'s avatar

I never mentioned child trafficking.

But if you opposed the Florida anti-grooming bill (as most of liberal media and Hollywood seem by chanting gay gay gay at the Oscars) your are either:

1) A pedophile.

2) A groomer.

3) A sexual predator.

So my questions are:

1) Why do so many on the left believe it is virtue to track 6 year old about self pleasure?

2) Why do so many on the left believe a school teacher should be able to transition a 2nd grader hidden from the parents?

3) Why do so many on the left believe parents have no right to even see school curriculums yet alone have some say on what is appropriate?

4) Why did the left create a stupid slogan тАЬDonтАЩt say gay billтАЭ when the slogan had NOTHING to do with the bill?

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Bruce Miller's avatar

Ever hear of NAMBLA? It isn't here yet and it certainly isn't mainstream Dem dogma. But there are whiffs of it circulating. People did protect and consort with Epstein. And there are tracts arguing that young, underage gay men need the tutelage of older gay men. Penny appears to be exaggerating but don't act as if this isn't on the fringes and seeping in. Because it is. And it is equally as nuts as the trans lunacy which used to be considered a mental disease by the psychiatric profession and now is considered worthy of government protection and propagation.

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Shane Gericke's avatar

Oh, of course it's on the fringes, and has been for a long time. The NAMBLA creeps had to retreat when we pounced on them years ago. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom from kiddy-rapists and their enablers. They've been among us for as long as people have strode the Earth.

But no, it isn't Dem dogma or even Left dogma, let alone an infection among sensible Liberals. We have to take great care not to condemn the masses, Left or Right, for what their fringes do. Even trans stuff is, in my opinion, a fraction of a percent of the nation but greatly overblown as the next boogie man. Why? Because media and politicians make bank on boogie men. Just like the MIL, they need culture wars to make money.

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LovingMother's avatar

Hi, I have to take issue with the "trans stuff" being overblown. I think that it has seeped into all of our institutions on the down low. Most Dems likely are not on board but that doesn't mean it hasn't become the law of the land. Please have a look at the laws by state: https://genspect.org/local/ I don't know whether you have children or grandchildren but Gender Ideology is a cult and taught at school. There is a great amount of family suffering as a result that you would see on PITT.substack.org. Historically, a fraction of the population was confused in this way - now it is like anorexia on steroids with young people but where everyone is saying "Yeah, you really are fat! Let's celebrate and call you "fatty"! It's an Identity! We have a supreme court nominee who cannot say what a woman is because she is not a biologist. I believe this cult has grown and is promoted with pronouns and sparkly unicorns (appealing to/indoctrinating babes) without society at large even having much of a clue about it because of the tech control of what we hear/how it's spun. - LM

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Shane Gericke's avatar

"the insistence of "progressive" Democrats that the filmed rape of children is "free speech" that deserves protection."

That's an outrageous accusation. What "progressive Democrat" said that child rape and trafficking is free speech that deserves legal protection? I know of none. I know of no righties who say that, either. So who did, specifically?

You don't get to say "anyone who says porn should be legal approves of child trafficking." Adult porn and child porn are as far apart as the North and South Poles. So who, specifically, advocates for the legal protection of kiddy-rape?

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Steven N.'s avatar

Penny, you sound more like a radical right winger every month:-)

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Bruce Miller's avatar

No she sounds saner by the minute.

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