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Anne Shenton's avatar

Re “the audience stops trusting us. They begin to see us as a community twisting ourselves into a pretzel to make every movie as woke as possible, every relationship mixed racially, every character sexually fluid, and they decide that we are telling stories set in a fantasyland instead of a world they know and live in. If that happens, and they decide to throw themselves instead into video games 24/7, we will lose them.”

Sad but true. I avoid newer movies and television. I know that it is fiction, but it's exhausting. None of these people are like me or interact like me and all of my friends. And for some reason, proper English has disappeared (pity Sidney Poitier now).I find that even science fiction movies inhabit this universe of "woke". I can only buy so much fantasy at once.

On television I find it hard to believe that almost every couple is either bi-racial or gay or "fluid" or unhappy. The percentages don't work for me.

And the remakes where they pop a woman in to replace a male. Sheer pandering. Write your own story and I won't care if the person has zebra stripes.

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RAH's avatar

That quote was the highlight of the entire piece. I can't watch television anymore and I didn't really know why until I read that quote.

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Nancy Robertson's avatar

Absolutely spot on. I stopped watching new movies a few years ago because they were so dreadfully woke, I couldn't stand it. I enjoyed the first couple of seasons of Man in the High Castle. But the fourth was so laughably woke, I turned it off after the first twenty minutes. I'm sure they fired all the old writers and hired a bunch of the new faces whose only qualification was their demographic data. The casting of TV commercials today is so heavy handed and bizarre, it's like they used a bingo machine to put couples together. If I want to see a movie on amazon prime, I've got to go back at least three decades for find something watchable.

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Mike's avatar

We watched Casablanca, To Sir With Love and Young Frankenstein this past month. We will not watch the garbage they put out now...

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GR's avatar

I have friends living in Germany, and what they know about our politics is a reflection of USA leftist views repeated in their mass media. And they are watching our TV shows, I am having fun asking what is proportion of blacks here, 25-30% is common answer. I wonder how many fellow Americans think the same!

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Sally Sue's avatar

yup. black people are only 12% (1/8) of the US population so having them in 100% of shows is NOT representative. If 1/8 was black, that would be correct representation.

and LGBTQ+ is like 5-8% of US population, so 1/12 would be LGBT correctly represented.

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AV's avatar

Ha, before I first came to the US some 20 years ago I thought it was even more based on watching US movies where the main characters where typically 1white 1black.

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Anne Shenton's avatar

And now...an Asian and an extraordinarily fit woman

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T Reid's avatar

An alien, or Rip can Winkle type, who watched current American TV / movies for a couple days to learn about our culture would be left with a completely fantasy-land idea of what the US is like today in terms of culture, demographics, behavior, etc.

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Anne Shenton's avatar

Complete with a laugh track.

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Terry's avatar

And the ads are all black now. Do they seriously think the white viewers relate best to mixed race or all-black couples (note that mixed race is always black husband and white wife, never the other way around because...reasons...)? I think of myself as "colorblind" but I have to admit that when I see these woke, pandering types of ads, I feel a momentary rush of irritation at the politics of it, and then resolve never to buy that product. Multiply by 50 million.

As for sci-fi and fantasy... don't get me started. They have taken every Golden Age comic book and turned them into woke political messaging vehicles.

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Sally Sue's avatar

yeah. black people are only 12% (1/8) of the US population so having them in 100% of ads is NOT representative. If 1/8 was black, that would be correct representation.

and LGBTQ+ is like 5-8% of US population, so 1/12 would be LGBT correctly represented.

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Anne Shenton's avatar

Don't watch DC Legends of Tomorrow. You'll be throwing things at the television.

Funny thing was, in the beginning, the show had two gay actors and it wasn't even part of the storyline....they were just PEOPLE!

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AV's avatar

I stopped buying products if the demography in the add does not reflect the reality.

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Terry's avatar

Precisely. Gillette got in big trouble a couple of years ago with their stupid "toxic masculinity" commercial and suffered multi-billion dollar losses. By the way, what's the significance of the little purple design next to your icon?

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AV's avatar

I think the icon indicates that I am a paid subscriber and contributed over certain amount but that’s just a guess :))

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Gordon Freeman's avatar

So what is it?

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Brian Katz's avatar

These ads are being shoved down our throats.

It’s ridiculous.

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