“Known for his libertine lifestyle—including running a sex-cam business—he seemed an odd fit for the moral strictures of Islam. And he was.”
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Ilhan Omar was banging like 3 different guys and laundering campaign funds and committing immigration fraud, while wearing a hijab as a costume, long before Andrew Tate’s apparently opportunistic conversion.
But you probably can’t write an article trashing her because the psychotic religious fundamentalists who actually pose a threat to civilization, Democrats, would have destroyed your life.
I’ve long read that a great appeal of Communism is not that as a faith that it is easy, but on the contrary that it is hard. We all instinctively want boundaries and rules. Freedom is good, but too much freedom is scary. Many of the freedom preaching Existentialists were Communists. Heidegger was a Nazi.
And our nation was not founded to protect the freedom to be a loud self indulgent moron. It was to protect the right to be a disciplined believer in some variant of Chritianity not allowed in Europe. Many of the colonies, in any event.
To be an adult is to take serious things seriously. Adulthood is in decline in our nation, so it is small wonder people are clinging in increasing numbers to cultish attachments; or, in this case, to what is seemingly stylistic posturing.
But Leftism is a cult. Rational thought and dissent are not allowed and all outsiders are hated and reviled.
When everything turned upside down in 2020 I started looking for answers - I read/listened to Jordan Peterson, Sorab Amhari, Patrick Dineen, Ben Shapiro, Rod Dreher and especially Paul Kingsnorth. The common thread was that the only answer to the insanity was organized religion. I went back to my Protestant church and it was completely captured. I am in the process of converting to Catholicism - rediscovering the Church has re-ordered my life and helps me make sense of what is happening in the world.
I think the explanation for the lack of coverage on Tate's conversion is simpler than the author supposes, the media has for years treated Muslims with kid-gloves and views anything potentially critical of that faith as off-limits. I submit that if Tate had converted to some form of Christianity there would be an incessant drumbeat from the media of how Christianity is bad and draws malfeasants like Tate who want to return to the dark ages.
The phrase regarding Islam “They order freedom by constraining it” stuck out to me. I know nothing about Tate or his conversion, but isn’t our whole left-leaning society now about ordering freedom by constraining it? Limits on academic speech. Vaccine passports. Hell, Antifa supports vaccine mandates. So anarchists support forced medical treatment of shots that don’t stop transmission?
There seems to be this underlying societal suspicion of traditional religions and all who practice them (in some cases for good reason), yet our supposedly secular society is its own form of religion with rigidity to spare. Try to step outside its orthodoxy and find out for yourself.
I see a pattern here. One person does something. Writer thinks it might be a trend and finds other possible examples, but doesn't make a compelling case... talked to some people, etc.. I wonder to what extent this is driven by the need to "write something" and fill space. Helen Lewis talked about it in her interview with Bari last week... the relentless push to produce content.
Reading this as a religious Jew is interesting. We’re quite big on rules, and yet I have not met anyone who converted due to political reasons. I’d be curious if anyone knows of examples? Fascinating article and does align with anecdotal evidence from my life as far as friend who’ve embraced either stricter forms of Judaism (having been born a Jew) or embraced stricter forms of Christianity in their search for meaning.
Life on earth is wild, unmanageable and scary. The existence of a higher power beyond humanity may or may not be true but, in any case, it is stabilizing. Secular belief in the goodness of humanity and political leaders of your persuasion may work for some people, usually those without major life challenges. But as you get older and notice politicians with skyrocketing net worth far exceeding anything they could possibly have legally made in their positions, questions about human nature arise. Then when friends drop you for various reasons, e.g. you are a “selfish” unvaccinated person or won’t say biological mens’ rights should trump womens ’…well, I’ll go with the other door, the higher power.
Being “exacting, masculine and vigorous” are not reasons to join a faith. This guy has joined another club to get a fresh set of fans and more attention.
Please send a writer to the south, come to my church, and you will see faith in reading, understanding and trusting in God’s word. The messages are love, forgiveness and reconciliation. The congregation is growing too.
Speaking as a Jew without a synagogue, I drive past churches around here that have rainbow patterns permanently displayed. They post “Black Lives Matter” and “We believe in Science/Justice for refugees/blah blah blah” signs, as though to reassure passersby that they are not racist, xenophobic, vaccine denying gay-bashing Klansmen.
I wonder what kind of namby-pamby, liberal drivel passes for a sermon in these Houses of Liberalism. Is God ever mentioned? Is the family still a thing? Are children (if any) encouraged to identify as whatever gender they like this week?
Many if not most churches and synagogues here in the Northeast have lost the plot. Oh, there’s a few real ones left; the Baptist church next to my house is unabashedly traditional, though dying.
The Chabad House nearby espouses a strict, Orthodox practice of the Jewish faith and is strongly pro-family, though interestingly they welcome all comers.
I believe we are on the verge of a revival. Andrew Tate is a bit of an extreme, but highly intelligent and articulate. He is aggressively persuasive and, like Donald Trump, has struck a chord, has rattled the nerves of the entrenched powers.
It’s no wonder that he’s under attack, and likely to be killed by the Romanians (reports are emerging that he’s ill with something serious, and being denied proper treatment).
The Biden regime could send a representative from the Embassy to check on him, a common practice when a celebrity is arrested on shaky grounds. But they won’t. Brittney Griner got the royal treatment because of her race and politics. Tate will just be hung out to dry.
Lack of religion leaves a void that many need to fill. Politics is one way to fill that space. Other ways might include science or art, distractions from the gnawing feeling that death will one day take you, and you have nothing to look forward to, even if that expectation is based on unverified stories or arcane books. This is understandable but a sad result of organized religion’s failure to compellingly hold up without blind faith. Sad. Very sad. We are short-lived creatures, painfully aware of our own mortality, products of our personal histories, and easily molded by established forces that check our boxes. This is such a dark post, and I hated writing it, but it is a seldom referenced thought that I keep buried as much as possible.
I’m not sure what’s happening to Common Sense anymore. Perhaps it’s the name change, who knows. But lately, while a lot of posts appear, they are irrelevant and bizarre.
I guess somewhere people have heard of this Andrew Tate guy, but what is his importance? Nada, zip, nothing. Amazing someone can write a whole essay on irrelevance.
I’m not sure this is the work Bari set out to do. If it is, it’s the work of the work salad Kamala spews. But it sure isn’t work that I’m interested in.
This article reads like a high school English position paper. All over the board with random references to alleged authority figures to bolster the argument ending with a sweeping conclusion that was not even close to proving the initial topic of the paper. Was this an essay the writer used for a standardized test writing portion?
Let's just covert to common sense first. Religious or not surely we can find common ground in common sense. It's not common these days. But there was a lot more common 30 years ago.
I'm presuming most people excluding various corporations and politicians don't see war as making sense. Therefore this is common and sensible. I also presume that most people would not agree that Trans women should compete in women's sports or be in women's lockers. It's a common feeling among the majority of left and right. Click the like if you agree with just these 2 examples. Maybe you can add some others .
“Known for his libertine lifestyle—including running a sex-cam business—he seemed an odd fit for the moral strictures of Islam. And he was.”
————————————————————-
Ilhan Omar was banging like 3 different guys and laundering campaign funds and committing immigration fraud, while wearing a hijab as a costume, long before Andrew Tate’s apparently opportunistic conversion.
But you probably can’t write an article trashing her because the psychotic religious fundamentalists who actually pose a threat to civilization, Democrats, would have destroyed your life.
I’ve long read that a great appeal of Communism is not that as a faith that it is easy, but on the contrary that it is hard. We all instinctively want boundaries and rules. Freedom is good, but too much freedom is scary. Many of the freedom preaching Existentialists were Communists. Heidegger was a Nazi.
And our nation was not founded to protect the freedom to be a loud self indulgent moron. It was to protect the right to be a disciplined believer in some variant of Chritianity not allowed in Europe. Many of the colonies, in any event.
To be an adult is to take serious things seriously. Adulthood is in decline in our nation, so it is small wonder people are clinging in increasing numbers to cultish attachments; or, in this case, to what is seemingly stylistic posturing.
But Leftism is a cult. Rational thought and dissent are not allowed and all outsiders are hated and reviled.
When everything turned upside down in 2020 I started looking for answers - I read/listened to Jordan Peterson, Sorab Amhari, Patrick Dineen, Ben Shapiro, Rod Dreher and especially Paul Kingsnorth. The common thread was that the only answer to the insanity was organized religion. I went back to my Protestant church and it was completely captured. I am in the process of converting to Catholicism - rediscovering the Church has re-ordered my life and helps me make sense of what is happening in the world.
I think the explanation for the lack of coverage on Tate's conversion is simpler than the author supposes, the media has for years treated Muslims with kid-gloves and views anything potentially critical of that faith as off-limits. I submit that if Tate had converted to some form of Christianity there would be an incessant drumbeat from the media of how Christianity is bad and draws malfeasants like Tate who want to return to the dark ages.
The phrase regarding Islam “They order freedom by constraining it” stuck out to me. I know nothing about Tate or his conversion, but isn’t our whole left-leaning society now about ordering freedom by constraining it? Limits on academic speech. Vaccine passports. Hell, Antifa supports vaccine mandates. So anarchists support forced medical treatment of shots that don’t stop transmission?
There seems to be this underlying societal suspicion of traditional religions and all who practice them (in some cases for good reason), yet our supposedly secular society is its own form of religion with rigidity to spare. Try to step outside its orthodoxy and find out for yourself.
Tate is a distasteful nut. Who cares why he converted to Islam? Why are we honoring this guy with an article?
I see a pattern here. One person does something. Writer thinks it might be a trend and finds other possible examples, but doesn't make a compelling case... talked to some people, etc.. I wonder to what extent this is driven by the need to "write something" and fill space. Helen Lewis talked about it in her interview with Bari last week... the relentless push to produce content.
Reading this as a religious Jew is interesting. We’re quite big on rules, and yet I have not met anyone who converted due to political reasons. I’d be curious if anyone knows of examples? Fascinating article and does align with anecdotal evidence from my life as far as friend who’ve embraced either stricter forms of Judaism (having been born a Jew) or embraced stricter forms of Christianity in their search for meaning.
"In 2022, Andrew Tate was the most googled person in the United States."
Who?
Life on earth is wild, unmanageable and scary. The existence of a higher power beyond humanity may or may not be true but, in any case, it is stabilizing. Secular belief in the goodness of humanity and political leaders of your persuasion may work for some people, usually those without major life challenges. But as you get older and notice politicians with skyrocketing net worth far exceeding anything they could possibly have legally made in their positions, questions about human nature arise. Then when friends drop you for various reasons, e.g. you are a “selfish” unvaccinated person or won’t say biological mens’ rights should trump womens ’…well, I’ll go with the other door, the higher power.
Being “exacting, masculine and vigorous” are not reasons to join a faith. This guy has joined another club to get a fresh set of fans and more attention.
Please send a writer to the south, come to my church, and you will see faith in reading, understanding and trusting in God’s word. The messages are love, forgiveness and reconciliation. The congregation is growing too.
Speaking as a Jew without a synagogue, I drive past churches around here that have rainbow patterns permanently displayed. They post “Black Lives Matter” and “We believe in Science/Justice for refugees/blah blah blah” signs, as though to reassure passersby that they are not racist, xenophobic, vaccine denying gay-bashing Klansmen.
I wonder what kind of namby-pamby, liberal drivel passes for a sermon in these Houses of Liberalism. Is God ever mentioned? Is the family still a thing? Are children (if any) encouraged to identify as whatever gender they like this week?
Many if not most churches and synagogues here in the Northeast have lost the plot. Oh, there’s a few real ones left; the Baptist church next to my house is unabashedly traditional, though dying.
The Chabad House nearby espouses a strict, Orthodox practice of the Jewish faith and is strongly pro-family, though interestingly they welcome all comers.
I believe we are on the verge of a revival. Andrew Tate is a bit of an extreme, but highly intelligent and articulate. He is aggressively persuasive and, like Donald Trump, has struck a chord, has rattled the nerves of the entrenched powers.
It’s no wonder that he’s under attack, and likely to be killed by the Romanians (reports are emerging that he’s ill with something serious, and being denied proper treatment).
The Biden regime could send a representative from the Embassy to check on him, a common practice when a celebrity is arrested on shaky grounds. But they won’t. Brittney Griner got the royal treatment because of her race and politics. Tate will just be hung out to dry.
Lack of religion leaves a void that many need to fill. Politics is one way to fill that space. Other ways might include science or art, distractions from the gnawing feeling that death will one day take you, and you have nothing to look forward to, even if that expectation is based on unverified stories or arcane books. This is understandable but a sad result of organized religion’s failure to compellingly hold up without blind faith. Sad. Very sad. We are short-lived creatures, painfully aware of our own mortality, products of our personal histories, and easily molded by established forces that check our boxes. This is such a dark post, and I hated writing it, but it is a seldom referenced thought that I keep buried as much as possible.
I’m not sure what’s happening to Common Sense anymore. Perhaps it’s the name change, who knows. But lately, while a lot of posts appear, they are irrelevant and bizarre.
I guess somewhere people have heard of this Andrew Tate guy, but what is his importance? Nada, zip, nothing. Amazing someone can write a whole essay on irrelevance.
I’m not sure this is the work Bari set out to do. If it is, it’s the work of the work salad Kamala spews. But it sure isn’t work that I’m interested in.
This article reads like a high school English position paper. All over the board with random references to alleged authority figures to bolster the argument ending with a sweeping conclusion that was not even close to proving the initial topic of the paper. Was this an essay the writer used for a standardized test writing portion?
Let's just covert to common sense first. Religious or not surely we can find common ground in common sense. It's not common these days. But there was a lot more common 30 years ago.
I'm presuming most people excluding various corporations and politicians don't see war as making sense. Therefore this is common and sensible. I also presume that most people would not agree that Trans women should compete in women's sports or be in women's lockers. It's a common feeling among the majority of left and right. Click the like if you agree with just these 2 examples. Maybe you can add some others .
The 10 common senses!!